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Ah got it. Thanks for the clarification. Though using those numbers, I'd think the football schools are still ahead, though roughly in-line. Say it's 300 in the base, top 75 is the top 25% of the schools. The 40% for the football schools is still ahead, though maybe not significantly.
Using US News, so not including the small schools or the lower division ones for the most part...I'd venture a guess that it's close to the number of D1 basketball schools, so around 300+.
At some point you're going to see a GM outlast head coaches
I think if/when this happens, it will be uncommon and it will be situational (ie; top 5 recruiting class coming in after a back to back underwhelming seasons, or a scandel).
You're suggesting that at some point the director of player personnel/GM - whatever the title of the person who is responsible for distributing compensation across players - will have equal standing to the head coach. I don't think this will ever happen at scale. Sure, there will always be unique circumstances - perhaps a G5 program that really has the Moneyball will go this route, schools with unique situations like Stanford or possibly a service academy (I know service academies don't provide NIL/Rev share for gov't reasons) - but I think at 90% of FBS programs the head coach will continue to maintain and overshadow the director of player personnel/GM
Look at VT this year, the issue wasn't getting players, its was on field coaching. Why blow up the entire organization because Pry doesn't understand what to do in the 4th quarter.
Because in college football:
- players commit to staff members, and sign contracts with a school and a third party collective
- staff members commit to the head coach (the organization is irrelevant for a lot of them)
- Donors commit to a head coach
In the NFL:
- Players are contracted to an organization
- Staff members agree to work for an organization
- There's not warring factions within a franchise that remotely resembles college boosters
I just can't imagine a world where Brent Pry is fired (not for cause), the GM continues running the program, the majority of the staff and players stick around, and VT essentially swaps in a new HC + some auxiliary parts.
Excluding scandals and internal promotions, this has never happened in the sport. It's going to require a massive culture change across all stakeholders in the sport AND centralized authority to limit player movement to get to a point where your typical FBS college football program runs like an NFL franchise.
I suppose if you reduce the role of head coach to just callin ball, and the 'GM' drives all recruiting and donor shmoozing, maybe this could happen. But again, I don't see that happening at scale.
But in fairness, there are, literally, thousands of colleges and universities in the US. If 15 of the top 25 football schools are outside of the top 75 US News rankings doesn't mean much. Could also say 10 of the 25 (40% of the top football schools) are in the top 75. That percent is way higher than the odds of a randomly selected 4-year school being in the top 75. Places can be good at both.
I just tried looking up the number of US universities and you do get a very broad range over a variety of sources, but even the low end numbers were well over 1,000.
Also, I tend to view those rankings with a skeptical eye as (1) many of those rankings have subjective components and (2) I've seen first-hand how "elite" schools behave.
Enter Sandman. Live in Lane Stadium. Put it in the history books. 🤘 Video courtesy of @Metallica #M72VirginiaTech pic.twitter.com/mVzuySAZZk— Virginia Tech (@virginia_tech) May 8, 2025
Frank Reich is an interim HC anyway
And also, Oklahoma State has been a really solid program for many years. One of the more successful outside of the P2. Last year was very much an outlier. Will see if the bounce back or not, but in the last 15 years they have:
Never had a year with less than 7 wins (outside of last year, of course)
10-4 in bowl games
Ranked 9 times
8 seasons with 10 or more wins
What would VT fans give to have that in the last 15 years?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Oklahoma_State_Cowboys_football_se...
At some point you're going to see a GM outlast head coaches. When the entire organization isnt trying to save their job because a head coach change then the entire structure has changed. Look at VT this year, the issue wasn't getting players, its was on field coaching. Why blow up the entire organization because Pry doesn't understand what to do in the 4th quarter.
Got to my car about 11:20 up above Chicken Hill and was on 460 at 11:30. Shocked, I tell you, shocked.
I can sort of attest to that. There was still VT merch available at various spots, but the one shirt I really wanted (the Hokie bird with the skeleton emerging) was totally sold out at the frantic experience entrance we went to except for the one shirt they had up on the wall, which was an adult S. My youngest (who wasn't there) got a pretty awesome present from last night. I also checked eBay this afternoon to see what was available and the same shirt is selling between $130 and $300.
Luck's title is GM, but I think his role is going to much more closely resemble associate AD. Doesn't sounds like he's very involved in recruiting at all. Also, from what other reporters have said, Stanford intends to distribute House money equally across almost ALL athletes... Assuming that's true, his role isn't going to have much to do with player compensation strategy.
Moving into pure speculation... I think the Luck experiment will fail. Either the AD will blow it up, or Luck will taking over the role of coaching.... which would effectively make the coach/GM chain of command irrelevant.
Yes they did


Nailed it. Time, cost, quality. You can only have 2 of 3. VT usually always picks the cheap route but results are typically not quality and take a long time. So one of three at best.
Maybe after Fuente we should have changed our slogan from Hard Smart Tough to Cheap Bad Slow /s
Ok. Take your damn leg.
I keep saying these same things about Bristol Motor Speedway. The Battle at Bristol was an amazing weekend!
I mean Frank Reich reports to Luck so while I doubt that luck has total authority to fire Reich, he'll probably be the one that let's him know.
yup -- LN invested a LOT of money in this specific show as part of their tour deal w metallica. it would not have happened without LN stepping in to foot costs incurred by the challenging logistics. VT uninterested in paying $$$$$ to host the concert (rightfully so) and the band uninterested in playing for free (rightfully so).
Yeah the demand for last night was crazy. Not only did I see people come, tailgate and just set up a chair in a parking lot to listen without a ticket, but I was also told that they completely sold out of their VT specific merch within the first 30 minutes of the gates opening at 4.
Insane
Yeah at the same time, VT also likely made a ton of money on top of their investment, even if you have to factor in the field replacement. Really no reason that Tech can't do a big concert like that every year. There were people there last night from all over the region. You can't tell me this event isn't going to push multiple local businesses solidly in the black that might have had thin margins over the course of the year.
Tech has the venue to host at least one big concert every year. They'd be foolish to not invest to make it happen. Its a money printing machine if you can make it work.
To be fair... It was the fastest sell out that Metallica has ever had in all of their years of touring.
I don't think this will happen. An associate AD? Yes. The person who drives personnel won't hire/fire coaches. This won't get NFL-ized for all the reasons stated in the article.
True - but that doesn't discount observations of what the schools that actually are winning are spending their money on.

OK State went 3-9 and winless in conference last year lmao

10 years ago would you ever think that an OC or DC doesn't have to recruit on the road? That's the way the positions are moving with having unlimited position coaches and only 10 that can recruit. College football is massively changing in the front office is going to become a power play for some teams, but it just has to work once for teams to copy it