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Iconic quote. Hope we can convince him to stay next season.
We won a few close games in a historically bad ACC to avoid being in the bottom 3. We were in fact ass this year. And the last 2 mins of the game yesterday were flat embarassing. The ACC was awful this year which clouds how really bad we are.
I think he was referring to her taking a long rest at Shaktoolik and not pushing forward aggressively. Jessie Holmes moved aggressively across the ice and Matt Hall went out to the shelter cabin that is on that little point of land (I had forgotten that there was a shelter there) although he did stop and rest there. She had a good strong run, but is not trying to push the dogs further. The dogs probably wanted to run fast.
When Jessie pulled into Koyuk, they noted that he looked pretty tired and beat up. They initially thought he would push through to set up an easy run to Elim next, but he was laying out straw for the dogs and so they assume he will stay at least a couple of hours to rest. The benefit of Koyuk is you can look down on the ice and see the teams coming in. This gives him the chance to play things by ear to decide when to leave if he sees Matt Hall approaching. Or he could just run whatever normal rest cycle he was planning.
Paige seems to have backed off with the rest in Shaktoolik. Feels unlike that she will press the team.
Did she, though? If you look at my previous comment, it looks like Paige turned on the gas between Unalakleet and Shaktoolik, and even with her rest at the check point, gained over an hour on both racers ahead of her. (I bolded the relevant numbers in that comment.)
I think it will be interesting to see her pace compared to the other two between Shaktoolik and Koyuk. That'll tell us whether Paige is backing off, or is fighting for a 2nd or 1st place position.
You're right about that. I grew up in east Tennessee. Some people don't have a lot going for them and the Vols are their entire identity Monday to Saturday.
I mean, he's not wrong. I think it sums up our athletic department.
At 3:23 east coast, Matt and Paige are both on the water. Matt the main Sound and Paige on Reindeer Cove, so they are not running together. Holmes is approaching Koyuk and is visible on the camera zooming in on him.
Having live fee from Koyuk with the analysts. Their comments have been:
It is likely Jessie's race to lose. Has 31 mile lead on Matt Hall and 34 mile lead on Paige. They think he will pull through Koyuk and try and camp ~15 miles past the checkpoint. That would position him to have a long rest camping and will be set up for his next run to go into Elim.
Thought is that Matt needs to have a long run all the way to Elim to have much of a chance. He had a long rest and might be able to.
Paige seems to have backed off with the rest in Shaktoolik. Feels unlike that she will press the team.
No one further back expected to have a chance to win unless the top 3 teams all falter or bad weather closes down the trail. However, the dogs on all the lead teams look strong and there is no prediction of bad weather. It is clear and sunny. Winds 12-15 mph. Not light, but not bad at all for Norton Sound.
And Jessie just pulled in at 3:31 PM east coast according to my computer.
"every single P5 team in the nation who looked at him said "nah, we're good"... This isn't football. Gonzaga and VCU would whip our ass in hoops most years. I watched Dayton destroy Young's best team in Hawaii- total domination. BYU destroyed us the next night. We would get dusted by St. Mary's 12 of the last 15 seasons at least. The gap between Davidson and VT hoops has never been that big the past 30 years. In fact Davidson has had better teams than VT in that time period multiple years. We hired Wofford's coach and brought 3 of his players in and actual won the ACC tourney. It's not football. We gave a scholarship to Severn who can't play dead in a western. The examples are numerous. We have given many scholarships to marginal players, but the one we chose a hard line on was the son of our best player ever. For fun, he turned out to be the greatest shooter in NBA history. It's not justifiable or logical on any level.
Hoffman is creating a nice career for himself for a UDFA.
His reputation for being a dick (or an "alpha" if I'm being nice) has followed him to the NFL (Link Here).
You're correct. No ACC team gave him a scholarship (or even a walk-on opportunity).
If would have been great if Steph accepted the walk-on spot (especially considering he's the son of a multi-millionaire athlete, his parents could afford one year of tuition), but c'est la vie.
Apparently the family is still VT football fans. Would love to see Steph on Gameday in Blacksburg when he retires...but considering the trajectory of our football team, I don't think we're going to be on Gameday anytime soon.
If Whit wanted to grab some low hanging fruit, he should set up honorary degrees for Steph, Seth and Sydel.
Again, we're not just talking about the almighty Dukes and the lowly NIT VT's of college basketball - we're talking every single P5 team in the nation who looked at him said "nah, we're good". A lot likely didn't even look at him before passing on him. Most ACC schools weren't even interested in a walk-on role for him.
His choices were literally Davidson, VCU, and Winthrop. There was zero indication he would become the player he did, and again, at VT maybe he doesn't even become that player, 6' tall and 160lbs was going to take a beating in the ACC or B1G - at the time, before he finished growing he was built for a mid-major.
"Greenberg made the right call with the information he had in front of him"- hard disagree- he was coach of a team that was on the fringes of the NIT- not Duke. He couldn't buy a ticket to the NCAAs. So your damn right you take Dell's kid who could clearly shoot a fucking basketball. What have you got to lose? your NIT home game? Fuck VT hoops being too big a program for ANYONE at any point really. How about this year? can't take a chance on someone? Have to take Severn? come the fuck on. If we were Duke, I'm buying it. We were an NIT program that took a hard line on Dell's kid. Fucking morons.
Counterpoint: Steph Curry maybe would have never become what he is today if he had been gifted a scholarship to an ACC school based on who is dad is.
He was skilled out of HS, but undersized (he even acknowledges that he was a late bloomer, physically). He was maybe 6' by the time he finished HS. It's not like any other P5 program was after him. His HS coaching talking about ordering uniforms:
"We got brand new uniforms, and this might have been his sophomore or junior year, and when you're ordering basketball jerseys, you just don't order very many mediums, much less smalls," Brown said. "He probably needed a small, but we were able to kind of fit him into a medium pair of shorts. All we had for a jersey top was large. I guess you could say it hung a little bit loose on him. It kept bouncing and shaking around whenever he was running.
Hot take: Greenberg made the right call with the information he had in front of him, without the benefit of hindsight
Looking at the data in the 0930 local (1330 EDT)update, specifically the transit and rest times between leaving Unalakleet and leaving Shaktoolik, it looks like both Jessie and Matt rested before getting to Shaktoolik or had a harder time getting there. Paige spent 3h45m less time on that run than Matt, and 4h45m less than the leader Jesse. So even though she spent 2h28m in Shaktoolik (vs their 8m), she actually gained during the Unalakleet/Shaktoolik leg. She was either significantly faster (7.71mph vs 4.57mph/4.12mph, these are average speeds though) or the two leaders rested before the Shaktoolik checkpoint.
TL,DR: Paige made up about 1h15m on Matt and 2h15m on Jesse on the leg between Unalakleet and Shaktoolik.
GO PAIGE GO!
| In | Out | Previous | ||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Pos | Musher | Bib | Checkpoint | Time | Dogs | Time | Dogs | Rest Time | Time Enroute | Checkpoint | Time Out | Speed |
| 1 | Jessie Holmes | 15 | Shaktoolik | 3/12/2025 5:26 | 11 | 3/12/2025 5:34 | 11 | 0h 8m | 10h 11m | Unalakleet | 3/11/2025 19:15 | 4.12 |
| 2 | Matt Hall | 4 | Shaktoolik | 3/12/2025 5:37 | 10 | 3/12/2025 5:45 | 10 | 0h 8m | 9h 12m | Unalakleet | 3/11/2025 20:25 | 4.57 |
| 3 • | Paige Drobny | 26 | Shaktoolik | 3/12/2025 6:44 | 12 | 3/12/2025 9:12 | 12 | 2h 28m | 5h 27m | Unalakleet | 3/12/2025 1:17 | 7.71 |
| 4 | Michelle Phillips | 14 | Unalakleet | 3/12/2025 6:51 | 11 | 3/12/2025 6:57 | 10 | 0h 6m | 14h 42m | Kaltag 2 | 3/11/2025 16:09 | 5.51 |
| 5 | Mille Porsild | 18 | Unalakleet | 3/12/2025 7:21 | 10 | 3/12/2025 7:40 | 9 | 0h 19m | 15h 45m | Kaltag 2 | 3/11/2025 15:36 | 5.14 |
| 6 | Ryan Redington | 16 | Unalakleet | 3/12/2025 8:29 | 9 | 10h 34m | Kaltag 2 | 3/11/2025 21:55 | 7.67 | |||
| 7 | Mitch Seavey | 32 | Unalakleet | 3/12/2025 8:46 | 10 | 14h 54m | Kaltag 2 | 3/11/2025 17:52 | 5.44 | |||
| 8 | Bailey Vitello | 22 | Kaltag 2 | 3/11/2025 12:23 | 13 | 3/11/2025 18:23 | 12 | 6h 0m | 12h 57m | Eagle Island 2 | 3/10/2025 23:26 | 5.41 |
| 9 | Nicolas Petit | 7 | Kaltag 2 | 3/11/2025 10:08 | 14 | 3/11/2025 18:30 | 13 | 8h 22m | 8h 52m | Eagle Island 2 | 3/11/2025 1:16 | 7.89 |
| 10 | Travis Beals | 6 | Kaltag 2 | 3/11/2025 13:15 | 11 | 3/11/2025 21:30 | 11 | 8h 15m | 8h 21m | Eagle Island 2 | 3/11/2025 4:54 | 8.38 |
Further back, it looked like Emily Ford was going to run away with the rookie of the year award as the first rookie to finish. But Samantha LaLonde has passed her and is now the lead rookie, running 12 dogs 747 miles in/381 to Nome. Emily is 739 miles in/388 to Nome with 13 dogs.
Ran the tracker back and re-watched the two of them. Emily was way ahead but stopped for a long time before Grayling1 and in Grayling. Also stopped for a long time after pulling out of Eagle Island2. Samantha did her 8-hour in Eagle Island2 and, even with the layover, has been able to catch and pass Emily on the trail to Kaltag2. Emily has been stopping and starting a lot since leaving Kaltag1.
I'll have to try and review some of the videos this evening to see if (1) Matt and Paige planned to cross Norton Sound together and (2) if Emily was having troubles causing her to stop so much.
Yep, Matt has been waiting on that point of land past the cove for quite a while. Normally, I'd think that was because weather was bad and he was waiting for something like the wind to die down, but no word on storms or high wind. And Jessie went straight out across the sound. Maybe Matt and Paige planned to cross together but he did not want to rest in town at the checkpoint with all the people and she did? No idea.
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Who did we take instead of Curry? Nigel Munson? how is he doing? Does he have a huge global shoe brand and multiple NBA MVPS?
Somebody get NAW on the phone, stat!
Looks like Paige just left Shaktoolik 5 minutes ago (1:30 EST), 30 miles behind Jesse who is still running.about 20 miles short of Koyuk, I assume he will almost surely push straight through to Koyuk now that hes out on the sea ice. Matt Hall is resting on the trail about halfway between the two, probably right before the open sea ice starts.
College sports are more importantly than breathing in that part of the country for most.
The SEC has been strong in softball for a very long time.
While I never underestimate player growth, especially from freshman to sophomore year, I agree this team wouldn't be an ACC contender lol. Hopefully we get at least 2-3 ballers from the portal to save our butts.
Latest GPS @ 11:20 AM east coast shows Jessie Holmes out in the middle of Reindeer Cove before the start of the main sea ice crossing. Matt Hall is 3 miles behind him and approaching the shore. Paige has the team resting in Shaktoolik 10 miles behind Matt. Unless Matt stops short of the coast and waits for Paige, I assume all 3 will cross as individuals. The nearest team behind Paige is now Michelle Phillips and she is 40 miles back. Would be many hours before she catches up and she'd probably need to rest her team before the crossing anyway.
Yeah, looks like she got there right at an hour after Matt left, though while both Jesse and Matt stayed only 8 minutes each, she's still there after 30 minutes, per the 0713 local update.
| In | Out | Previous | ||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Pos | Musher | Bib | Checkpoint | Time | Dogs | Time | Dogs | Rest Time | Time Enroute | Checkpoint | Time Out | Speed |
| 1 | Jessie Holmes | 15 | Shaktoolik | 3/12/2025 5:26 | 11 | 3/12/2025 5:34 | 11 | 0h 8m | 10h 11m | Unalakleet | 3/11/2025 19:15 | 4.12 |
| 2 | Matt Hall | 4 | Shaktoolik | 3/12/2025 5:37 | 10 | 3/12/2025 5:45 | 10 | 0h 8m | 9h 12m | Unalakleet | 3/11/2025 20:25 | 4.57 |
| 3 • | Paige Drobny | 26 | Shaktoolik | 3/12/2025 6:44 | 12 | 5h 27m | Unalakleet | 3/12/2025 1:17 | 7.71 | |||
| 4 • | Michelle Phillips | 14 | Unalakleet | 3/12/2025 6:51 | 11 | 3/12/2025 6:57 | 10 | 0h 6m | 14h 42m | Kaltag 2 | 3/11/2025 16:09 | 5.51 |
| 5 | Mille Porsild | 18 | Kaltag 2 | 3/11/2025 11:25 | 11 | 3/11/2025 15:36 | 10 | 4h 11m | 8h 33m | Eagle Island 2 | 3/11/2025 2:52 | 8.19 |

Look dawg, my only point was that while Greeberg had several faults - offering a walk-on spot and a redshirt year to a 6'0", 150lb kid that can shoot (which was as good or better of an offer than he got from 99% of D-1 schools), was not one of those faults.
Anyone that is still raging about it (while beating the fuck out of a horse that's been dead for 15 years) is basically saying, "yeah of course I recognize basketball talent better than every coach and recruiting expert that existed in 2006".
Coaches from Davidson, Winthrop and VCU should be enshrined in the HOF for being the only three D-1 coaches possessing the foresight to offer Steph a scholarship.