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not to be that guy but if no one is running it, doesn't that make it more unique?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vynEhmh3JQ if you want to see him coaching offense
Man. Yeah, this...this really gets at a lot of it.
From the sound of things, we are contemporaries as far as our ages and when we got into VT football. I am still a bit further gone than you. Every season (with the possible exception of maybe 2019-22) despite the many many moments where I ragequit, I also have at least one moment of "yknow, we could....we could really go undefeated here." That comes from us being in the conversation every year of the 2000s. Long enough for it to kind of be the default, even after all the years of mediocrity.
I don't think that'll ever change. Then again, maybe it will.
They never should've taken down the empty trophy case in Merryman. I know, I know - it was a source of ridicule within the fanbase as well as without. But I loved that shit. It took balls to put that there. It showed what the goal was. It showed what the expectations were. It said "Hey, we've been here before. We expect to be back."
The reasons why we haven't have been litigated and relitigated to death. I won't get into that here. But when they removed the case, it was a ceding of ground and a tacit admission that they would likely never retake it. It was a loser mentality at work. Maybe that was the moment I should've stopped paying attention. VT football has drowned under a sea of people and organizations who either didn't know, didn't care, or weren't willing to do what it takes to keep winning at the highest level.
And now it's out of our hands. So be it, but I am going to fight back the only way I know how. I am not going to give the SEC or B1G credit for being the best at anything. Not ever. I am going to say as loudly as possible that the national champs suck, and that every single playoff team sucks. I am not going to admit that impressive plays are impressive, or that smart coaches are smart.
Because it's the truth. Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama, Georgia, Texas et al. all do suck. Their biggest accomplishment will always be sucking no matter how many illegitimate trophies they rack up. They suck because they ruined the sport I love, and they have robbed my favorite college football team of a chance to become the champions of it. They've legitimized the removal of the trophy case. They've given credence to the cancerous small potatoes mindset that is rampant at VT. They've given the complacent people that don't care enough about winning something to point to and say "see, we were never going to summit that mountaintop anyway." And that is their biggest crime of all.
But, no one is running that offense anymore. It's not as unique as it was a decade ago.
Just like the air raid, the OG Chip Kelley spread, the Gus Malzahn read option/smash... these schemes did so well because they were so unique. As they proliferated through the sport, teams learned how to attack them.
That doesn't mean that these offenses cannot succeed; it just means that the offensive production won't outperform the talent on the roster.
Yeah, this is where I'm at. I don't know where the line between 'retread hire' and 'experienced hire' is, but to me this feels like a midway point between the two. I don't particularly love that.
We knew this is where is was going to end up. Time for every non-Big 10 (or however they count) and SEC school to break away and flip them the middle finger.
Former OC at Auburn and Baylor and spending 8 years as Tulsa's head coach. Was their coach in the bowl for Beamer's last game, which we won in a shootout
Brings a lot of experience and a proven track record of success as a OC.
If you're wary about this hire, just go back and look at those Baylor stats while he was there. I think it's a home run hire.
I don't like it. The game has passed him by, his offenses at Tulsa sucked after a briefly very successful stint at the beginning of his tenure.
This is as someone who loved those Bryce Petty offenses at Baylor. Defenses have adapted to that style. His offense at Auburn two years ago also sucked. While being towards the bottom of the league they still had talent on offense. A good OC would be able to find ways to score even with less talented players than most of the league. His did the opposite, and the low point was only putting up 10 on New Mexico State.
I understand why you don't want to hire Christian Taylor right after Seifkes and put everything on two young guys, but I would've liked that hire a lot better tbh. If we could still grab him for a Co-Oc role I think we should jump at the chance. Otherwise I hope Brent Davis will have a huge say over the style of offense that is run. P Mont could prove valuable as an experienced play caller but style wise I think what he wants to run is outdated and easy to stop (but tbh he might be washed as a play caller as well)
nice
This is the type of hire I expected. Veteran play caller with head coaching experience. With Seifkes on defense I think a steady known quantity was a smart play here.
His final two years at Baylor, they finished #1 nationally in total offense, so that's fun
Never heard of this guy, but if he's good by Alum he's good by me
Just keep the portal damage minimal in the Spring and then we go from there.
Damn... 1000% a better hire (or at least better resume) than Christian Taylor, but this offense won't be as fun to watch.
Having an experience head coach in the room will be good for Pry.
I will talk myself into this hire over the next 24 hours.
I know nothing about this dude or his system. I'm just glad we're not hiring an offensive coordinator that will be learning how to be an offensive coordinator at this level.
It's offical:
Welcome Home our new Offensive Coordinator Philip Montgomery 🦃🔗 https://t.co/LWwaUE6wxA#ThisIsHome | @CoachPMonty pic.twitter.com/VSDudAgYVA— Virginia Tech Football (@HokiesFB) February 17, 2025
Granted it was over 10 years ago, but this isn't all that bad...
He was the quarterback coach and co-offensive coordinator for Robert Griffin III, including during his Heisman Trophy season in 2011. He went on to become the lone offensive coordinator from 2012-2014 at Baylor, with Baylor finishing No. 1 nationally in total offense during his final two seasons there. They ranked No. 2 in total offense in 2012.
This espn article makes it sound like it's a done deal
Agreed. I liked "innovative", but that was in the high risk category. Montgomery has a ton of relevant experience, and has run successful offenses that could score points.
This is a quick reaction. We'll have to see what the deep dive looks like.
I'm indifferent.
On one hand you have a veteran OC with HC experience. Wonfinalist for the Broyles award. Has had multiple #1 offenses. Is currently in the UFL, had a pretty rough parting at Auburn( was that HF fault?) Checks a lot of boxes people were looking for.
On the other you have a young innovative guy. Lower level experience. No HC experience. Potential huge upside but relatively unknown.
The guy has years of experience but his results column isn't all that pretty. It pretty much sucks. From a high level perspective, not good.
After the P2 Rulers of the CFB World post, I am quickly losing all interest, care, and concern. I am just about there.
I took my family out to a late lunch to watch the VT/UVA Bball game. The price alone to do that is depressing enough. The game played out like so many games before. The impacts of the P2 balance has been felt almost full throttle. We are just about there.
The same goes for football. Any school that doesn't have real money (like a SMU) will continue to fall into the Forgottens. The SMU's of the world may spend a shit ton of money and try, but may soon stop as there will be no ROI in the foreseeable future in doing so.
Man, college football and basketball is going to turn into the 4 team playoff model and become very repetitive and boring AF.
Really.
Wow, I had really grown to like the Taylor pick. I'm stuck on "innovative".
That said, Phillip Montgomery looks like a decent choice, too, with good OC experience.
Pry coaching for his job. The fact this is taking so long (similar to the DC hire) will likely be attributed to his rigorous search. Or something. I am unsure if I buy that.
All I know is that Pry had better win more in 2025 than he has previously. And he better look good doing it. Another 6 win season with stumbling, fumbling performances on either side of the ball will be catastrophic for him and his career
Yep. That's pretty much where I am at now. I'm 48, or will be here in a few more days. I was in school during that 1999 season, graduated from Tech in 2000. At the time I had no idea how much things would change and couldn't really have known obviously. But that was the peak. The evolution of the sport, especially over the past decade, has reinforced the old money. The ladder has been pulled up, and there will be very few, if any, new champions.
VT's decline is of course due in some part to its own mistakes, failing to build on the success of those late 90s and early 2000s teams chief among them. But in looking back I think it is clear that the world changed in 2010 or so and that was the point of no return. We are the Brewers. We will never be resourced to compete at the highest level of what is supposed to be the same sport played by an Ohio State or Georgia. It is now structurally impossible and the era of good management decisions being able to guide is into that range of competition has been closed for a decade and a half at this point.
This year, for the first time in twenty-five years since graduating, I will not have season tickets to Virginia Tech football. The constant churn of the roster, the un-regulated farm team system, the completely un-level playing field and the sad state of the sport as the P2 money programs blot out of the sun have finally snapped my streak. It's a good time to call it. My $2500 is a rounding error in what anOSU spends on beard grooming products for Ryan Day I bet.
I love my school, I cherish my memories of many home and away games, but it's just not responsible or reasonable for me to support the athletics program in this direct manner anymore.