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I actually think this is a good move (and the DC move). If we hire a high-dollar big name and don't excel (like win 10-games) that will kill Pry. By taking these up-and-comers he gains some time and perspective. We could win 7-8 games, have really innovative systems and see real progress.
Nice, lots of great dressings can be made at home.
Home made mayos as well.
There's a dressing I like to do, toast a couple garlic cloves in olive oil. Let cool.
Add a little dry mustard to stabilize the emulsion.
Whip in some lemon juice, add salt, pepper, fine peel from the lemon and a fresh herb like oregano or basil or parsley. White wine if you need more liquid for a good emulsion.
And yet Memphis has probably been better than VT every year since that moment after being perennially one of the worst FBS programs until those coaches that we hired turned Memphis around.
Our program went to the shitter the moment we turned it over to a bunch of Memphis coaches. We can pretend there is no difference between FCS/G5/P4- but there is. Especially in the cut throat recruiting world - which is where you get actual good players.
Yup. I'm also much more open to being sold on a DC than OC. There are a lot of OCs with recognizable names and offenses. I'm ready for Dan Mullen 2026.
In his 16 years of coaching football, he has coached offense for 15 years, including 6 years as OC or assistant OC.
William & Mary (2008) Tight ends coach
William & Mary (2009) Quarterbacks coach
San Diego State (2010) Offensive assistant
Michigan (2011) Offensive assistant
San Diego (2012–2013) Running backs coach
Illinois Wesleyan (2014–2015) Offensive coordinator
San Diego (2016–2017) Wide receivers coach
San Diego (2018) Co-offensive coordinator & quarterbacks coach
San Diego (2019) Offensive coordinator & quarterbacks coach
William & Mary (2020–2023) Offensive coordinator & running backs coach
Buffalo Bills (2024–present) Defensive quality control
Current defensive coach being targeted to be our OC?
Good God I just got Juan Castillo flashbacks
like i said in one of the other threads, if pry is going to fail then i want it to be because of a swing and miss with his guys rather than some weird hamfisted arranged marriage. not sure what it is we're getting here though.
"Defensive QC" position as an offensive guy sounds like he was doing self-scouting
I think it is less "wait and see" than grabbing an up and coming P2 position coach with better recruiting resume.... Our coordinators need to scheme for and develop the players we have..... and I have faith in both of these guys doing that
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I think you could sell me on Seifkes or Taylor. Selling me on both in the same cycle probably isn't going to happen. 2 wait and see hires on Pry's hail mary year don't give me a vote of confidence.
I continue to believe that the level of scheming is less important than having done it before. I could go to alabama as OC and put up points, but it takes actual skill to do it without 5 stars.
Not going to link since it's a paywall, Bruce Feldman did an article on W&M/Christian Taylor in Feb 2023
Taylor can get his own thread now and we re-title this the "Comics and Literature Discussion" thread.
I don't see how to look at this any other way. I could put some lipstick on the Seifkes hire and thought well maybe we'll put our big boy pants on for the OC hire. Nope, we're just not serious about contenting for football.
We are hiring NFL analysts as OC because everyone knows Pry is dead man walking and the OL room is - umm- not great. Add in a bunch of skill guys leaving in the next portal window and - welp.
Pry is coaching for his job and hires two coordinators that nobody has ever heard of. We can all pretend they will be great, but they won't. And we get to do this all over again next year as our reputation as a serious program windles away for good.
The best offense is a good defense or something like that.
One of the truly all-time best 80s videos. And the song itself might be my all time favorite guilty pleasure song.
Well, this entire thread is now just an academic exercise. Time to move on.
BUT: The old comic sub-threads were awesome. Thanks for those.
Off to new adventures!
current DEFENSIVE analyst
Pry is playing 4 dimensional chess.
Move over Bill Belichick! You NFL has-been loser!
His association with the State of Virginia is what's most important of course. Him being a FCS resume guy and current DEFENSIVE analyst are secondary.
The issue with Fuente was not knowing how to run a program. We are not asking either coordinator to do that.
I would argue that Fuente as an OC would have been great, especially in today's era where you don't have to have a recruiting OC