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I was using total numbers we were 88th in total offense. As state above I think advanced stats can look really good but do little to evaluate coaching
Advanced stats are a great metric for players and predictive team analytics but I don't think they do a great job of capturing coaching success. So I agree here. I used a top 50 offense because that would be averaging 400-410 yards per game which should be plenty to win week in an week out as long as we're not allowing:
Dukes shit QB throw for a million yards in the first quarter
and would also tell us that we're likely able to
milk the clock down and win in the carrier dome
Well the SP+, pre-bowl, has VT at 24th with the 33rf best offense and 37th best defense. (35th ST).
So way better than that? There are a lot of hurdles to overcome especially with Pry as rhe head coach, we aren't recruiting well, we dont have good in game coaching, and so far coach hiring is really bad. The good news with the first hires is that Fontel was the only coach Pry didn't know the first time around and he is head and shoulders above everyone else. So since the OC &DC are unknowns to Pry we might have something.
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For DC, seeing some semblance of halftime adjustments and keeping opposing teams near or under their expected points scored would make me feel like we have improved.
For OC, points and maybe utilizing all of the skill positions, not just a generational talent at RB and a battering ram QB.
Edit: also, to distill one point out of DCs post above that I didn't see when posting my original comment, situational football. Milking the clock on O when up, adjusting on defense when you're getting torched by the same play over and over, having a backup plan when you oline is obviously a liability for the health of your QB, just to name a few examples of the previous staff apparently not having situational awareness at all.
When you are spiraling at 6-6 every year, fuck these numbers/stats/deep advanced metrics- fuck that. The measure of "success" for OC and DC is winning fucking games. Period. We aren't going to get more support, better players, better coaches, keeping better players if we don't fucking start beating Duke and Fucking Syracuse. Bottom line. Soooo my measure is sucess is not allowing Dukes shit QB throw for a million yards in the first quarter- let's start there. Draw a scheme to where that bum doesn't look like Marino right to open the game. How about that? How about drawing up a scheme to beat Clemson for the first time since many of you were born. How about that guy? How about an OC that can milk the clock down and win in the carrier dome for the first time in 30 fucking years??? Let's find those guys instead of some bullshit metric that says Chris Marve was actually good as we lose every fucking close game for 3 years.
I think the team has proven they should be in the dance this year. They almost beat the #12 team at home and were never out of it.
They fought hard and had a chance to win. The ball would just not fall for Wenzel. She had some good drives but the ball just bounced out. I like her fearless attitude, I think it rubs off on the rest of the team. Hopefully they can sweep the rest of their games and make into the NCAA tourney.
General question that spawned off of an X subthread I saw. What's the measuring stick for success for the new OC and DC.
OC top 50 offense in year one (using 2024 numbers we would have needed an additional 30ypg to get there from 88th)
DC making crucial stops and post half time adjustments?
Obviously winning is probably the easiest metric to track but with two relatively unproven hires what advancement on each side of the ball makes Pry's seat cooler regardless of win # (theoretical obviously if we win <6 I don't think this is even a question)
Whit's seat is ice cold. He is not going anywhere even if he replaces Pry next year.
The team doesn't have all the bugs worked out, Rose's first game back from injury and she played like it. But they have no quit.
I was looking, but I didn't see the screen move.
USA really ran away with it in the 3rd last night. Kind of the opposite of Canada's fast start on Wednesday night.
I mean it cannot help with his "Time out management" skills. 😂
Thankfully Pry already has the clock management and time out management down cold. 🙄
I mean he did leave, so he's not all bad
Or start a seperate Comics and Literature thread.
I'm hesitant to hire someone who believed working under Mike London was a good idea.
Confirmed: Pry reads sports website comments
Coach - you can only have one person wearing each number on the field at a time. Just in case
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Anybody watching 4 Nations? This is so much better than an All-Star Game
One of the comments after the article was from early 2023 and said maybe Brent Pry needs to go over and set up a clinic there...
I'm not sure our roster is worse, and I'm definitely not sure our schedule will be harder. We had the 26th hardest schedule out of 134 teams in 2024. Our conference schedule was about as hard as it could be. We played 6 of the top 8 teams (not counting us) in the ACC last year. I doubt that will happen again.
They had six more offensive rebounds and out scored us 13 to 3 on second chance points.
We tied them on FG% 43-43
Lead them on 3FG% 62-35
Lead them on FT% 89-69
We probably missed ten layups.
In most instances when they had a turnover, we then had a turnover or missed shot.
We coulda, shoulda, won that game.
But hey! We took the #12 team to the wire. So I'm proud of the girls. It's been an exciting ride.
Here is our NET -
45 46 Virginia Tech ACC 16-8 5-2 1-2 10-4 1-6 1-0 4-2 10-0
Strongest bubble metric is 5-2 in true road games. 2-6 in Q1 and 2 is an absolute killer. Keep in mind, the committee doesn't look at VT in a bubble (pardon the pun) they will compare us to similar teams. The tourney resume is perilous at this moment.