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Call him, tell the media we're flirting with the idea of bringing him back, and then tell him "Stay at Home"?
Money, winning more than 6 games in a season and players wanting to come play at your school without having to recruit that hard sounds pretty nice.
Mo money, better team. Doesn't look that bad to me. Just hate to lose him.
Whole situation feels like


his salary probably doubled
Let's do something funny

I love this energy! You want to fill the stands, go Air Raid make offense exciting. I don't necessarily agree that smash mouth spread is heading out though, I think we're seeing a turn back to physicality. Our question should be, what type of players can we get and do we want to get ahead of the turn back to more physicality and running or should zig as everyone else starts to zag?
The timing certainly isn't ideal, but for fucks sake, reading this thread you'd think Tyler Bower was Bill Walsh. His offense was barely, and I mean barely, better than the defense last season, and the DC got fired.
Throw a million dollars to poach an up-and-coming offensive coach and let's get the offense installed for spring practice.
Maybe Mike's dad is available.
It's so funny, two month ago at this time everyone was talking about Ryan Day being fired
That's true. Just seems like OSU would want to pluck a top-OL coach for the position, not a middling-ACC OC that had terrible OLs in his tenure.
My top 5 list of possible candidates as of today:
1) Joe Moorhead
2) Kirk Ciarrocca
3) Jeff Grimes
4) Brad Glenn
5) Paul Chryst
I would be ecstatic about any one of these
He's been linked with the OSU job. Not sure if a reality or not.
If he does go to OSU, you would think Brown would wished they would have waited to hire the OL coach and bring in Moore to jump-start his scheme.
would you have preferred that we bumped up Bowen's salary to keep him on staff instead?
Depends. Assuming this was just a money move (big assumption), I wouldn't hate it. But I'm guessing it's about more than money - the chance to learn offense under Ryan Day is a big opportunity. Probably less risk of being unemployed next year, etc.
Perhaps I'm being overly optimistic (actually, no perhaps about it - I'm definitely giving Pry more credit than he's earned), but I think it's possible Pry is pushing Bowen out without firing him.
I'm curious to see where we go from here... equally curious to see the salary numbers (for both us and Bowen). Curious to see what the #sauces say after marinading for a bit.
2025 is going to be the most interesting/intriguing season for VT since 2020. Hopefully it goes better.
NGl, I am ALL for bringing the air raid to VT. Good QBs want to sling the ball. The days of the smash mouth spread are heading out. QBs don't want to be a battering ram. Also our personnel (deep at WR) fit, and our OL coach knows Brown's scheme. It's plug and play. I bet Brown could bring in a few QBs as well.
I literally cannot imagine what it's like being an OSU fan.
Im sure I could talk myself into it. But idk if OSU fans do that.
Non sarcastically, I should've put him on this list. Just fired by the Browns, but spent the entire season with backup QBs on a bad team. Previously was fired as OC from the Bills, BUT he was the QBs coach who helped develop Josh Allen. In his first year as OC in Buffalo they finished 2nd in points. Not my top choice, but not sure he's a dud as an OC.
EDIT: added to list
Yep. And I think it's plausible as well.
Dude coached at Richmond and in NC. Another head coach would def help Pry.
Ok, so as a fan of OSU, would you be good with an OL coach that only has experience in teaching OL techniques 2 years at Fordham and 1 year at UMD? Why aren't they hiring a better OL coach?
TE coaches do not teach their own blocking techniques. They take a backseat to the OL coach.
Would an OC that has an OL background and knows how to coach good blocking techniques let his OL coach teach bad blocking technique? And in lieu of fixing that technique, would that OC just scheme around it?
How does OSU think this is a good hire?
I prefer my OC watch film
Joe Moorhead is currently making $620k at Akron. Took a pay cut from $1.15 mil at Oregon. Has not had a winning season at Akron, one of the most difficult programs in the country. We should try to hire him.
I think Chip Kelly leaving Ohio State started this so the timing makes sense.
Not far fetched. This was one of my first thoughts. I would have some other guys higher on the list, especially since Brown is an Air Raid tree, but I think it's a very real possibility.

They already hired an OC. They promoted Hartline.