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Somehow, I'm finding myself missing the days of Leoffler, Beamer and Bud.
Time to go listen to Hurt by Johnny Cash on repeat. "To see if I still feel"
Dave Clawson. Tell him he doesn't have to recruit.
You're goddamn right we need to be paying that. The Ohio St OL coach made $1m last year. We cannot be paying our OC less than a position coach elsewhere and call ourselves a serious program. We need to stop being so damn cheap all the time
on it
We need to be paying at least $1 mil for an OC. I think a number of them make under $500k
Same. The primary worry I have is roster retention, not play-calling loss
Question is, how many of these guys make less than 870k a year? Or if they make close to that already, would they be willing to move at this point?
Yeah, I'm not overly concerned about this job opening because of how many good names are out there. But we definitely need to be paying $1 mil at least to get a guy.
Think of all the great playcallers developed by CFB25 this year! Pry has so many fantastic options on the cheap /s
tbh if you put Bowen on this list when we hired Brent Pry I think I'd take 85% of the list before Bowen so that's a positive thing
TBH, I kinda prefer this to December. If it had been December, we would have lost most of our offense to the portal and coaches to different schools. Now, the players either have to sit out spring ball to transfer, which hurts their development, or play through spring ball and then decide if they want to transfer after working with the new coach, which could end up being a much harder decision.
Go ahead and start the search thread so we can push for page 2 again.
Been there
If it's anything like what I dealt with, that new person is going to be looking for a sacrificial lamb soon to prove their authority and it's probably going to pile drive team morale for the long haul.
Unfortunately, I was that lamb and spent all of 2024 looking for a job after 12 years at the company. But it all ended up good in the end, took another role with more responsibility paying significantly higher.
Might be worth polishing that resume just in case
Yes, exactly my read as well. I'm not in the VT bubble as much as some people here are, and moves like these are becoming more and more common.
Jury is out. Bowen is not an elite OC. We could hire someone who's better than him. But we could also hire someone who's only as good as him and lose our QB room. It really depends on if the hire can keep the offensive players from transferring, and if that coincides with keeping the offensive coaching staff.
Yes
It does nothing to elevate the status of VT so IMO its not good.
yes, and the wild thing is that it isn't even the worst staffing decision news i've gotten today.
my boss, who is an absolute gem --- efficient and effective, very competent, lets the technical folk be technical, isnt afraid to be the one to stick out their neck and take responsibility, cares more about effort and results than the political nonsense -- got squeezed out of our group in order to promote someone who is none of those things but plays the game well. all while we're in over our heads with a project on an unrealistically accelerated timeline that now will take an act of divine intervention to succeed.
sigh
Would that be bad?
No this is big dogged. Coordinators and HCs taking a position step down for a pay raise at a higher profile program is the new era of coach poaching.
Thanks for the list. Some decent to really good names on it.
Unless this has been known for some time, the statement that we will move quickly makes we skeptical we could pull any of the good names.
Some interesting names for sure. Chad Morris sucks - can't coach- take him off. Neal Brown- ditto. His claim to fame is beating Fuente. Wiggins would work. I love Sumlin as just an OC.
I'm surprised. My impression was that he really wanted to be calling plays and that's why we didn't hire him as TE or OL coach with Glenn as OC.
Some big names out there currently in lesser roles. Will Whit open the checkbook? Not holding my breath, but in theory we saved some money with the Chief Sief deal...
Some good names on that list but if I were a betting man, I'm putting my money on 'the field' as far as who the actual hire will be