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Probably a guy who doesn't currently have a job or is an analyst

Ricky Rahne. Similar salary at present, and in the Pry coaching tree. We can probably bump the salary.

Not saying it's what I pick. Just saying it's an option that seems likely.

I don't think Chryst flamed out as HC. He was really good for a few years, I don't think he adapted to the change in the cfb landscape or the pandemic well. I was surprised when he got fired.

Well then don't you worry, we hired a guy who was a DC at Wofford 7 years ago to fill in that knowledge gap! Thank God we aren't green at DC anymore!

Seconded. I really wanted him as head coach, but I'd be more excited to have him as OC

Are you feeling okay?

But in all seriousness I completely agree

Chryst was actually doing alright as a head coach at Pitt, but then momma called and he went home to Wisconsin where he couldn't quite make it work (although wasn't an absolute failure; was surprised when he was fired). He would run the sort of run first offense that Pry says he wants, but no idea how much he wants to be in a daily coaching role again.

Of course, I'm also evaluating all of these candidates on who would make a good interim HC if Pry goes down...

homerun if you ask me, but no way it happens with his health issues

Whoever you hire, you have to do it fast, and without losing key offensive coaches like Mines, Davis, Moore or key players in the spring portal. Tall order. I feel like we may have to roll with an internal promotion - which is probably not going to end well.

No, it's not fair to cast them in the same light. While Bowen can take some blame for poor OL play, it's a different conversation because:

1) Marve was directly responsible for LBs as the LB coach. Bowen was not doing position drills with the OL, that was the job of the OL coach
2) OL is a much more difficult job to coach than LB, one reason why you don't see a lot of OCs also coaching OL and OL coaches don't move around much
3) A good lineman is much harder to replace than a good LB. LB average replacement player isn't a huge drop off from a good player, so Marve should've been able to get at least acceptable play out of whoever he had at his disposal, which he wasn't able to do.

It's all internal. My current boss got squeezed out of my group into a dead-end promotion. If i get sacrificed, it would be for an internal move.

New boss needs me to deliver to have any chance of looking good -- she cant do it and I'm super technical in my current scope and there isn't a viable internal replacement for me. So i feel okay for now, just keenly aware that my success wont really be mine, but my failure will be

Edit: i think in your analogy my boss is the sacrificial lamb whose departure is going to piledrive to morale.

Yes. This is an opportunity for Pry to correct his original sin of hiring two extremely green coordinators right off the bat.

A lot of good names on that list.

Shame we aren't going to hire any of them

The real question here is, who is desperate enough to come be underpaid at a school where you're probably going to have a lot of talent leave in the spring portal and a head coach on a scalding hot seat entering the year with likely unrealistic expectations to attain.

Correct and they can help Pry learn when to call a fucking timeout perhaps too.

A couple formerly great OC's who flamed out as HC's on this list. Wouldn't hate to see us go with one of those-- Sumlin, Chryst, Morris. Some guys are awesome coordinators but just don't have the skillset to be HC's. Might be nice to counterbalance the relatively-young Siefkes with a more seasoned OC.

The hell.

Ok Stiney back as TE coach and recruiter all across VA.

Then something something offensive coordinator.

We're going to need more talent than we are coaches at this point

Agreed, he wasn't OL coach but his background was largely as an OL coach and a former OL himself.

He presided over 3 years of dismal OL play, even as the O.C. he has to bear some responsibility for quality control there.

Marve got hammered for being an LB Coach with LB being consistently the worst position group doesn't it only seem fair to judge Bowen in the same light?

No doubt this is bad for (whatever is left of) VT Football and the outlook on a potential replacement isn't inspiring.

Long story short, neither Coordinator was particularly great and ultimately I think the "best" decision would have been just to can Pry this Offseason and start from scratch.

List all your good candidates. mhm. Great. Now throw that list out. We don't need that.

Neal Brown's claim to fame is being an Air Raid coordinator at TTU and Kentucky. He's also worked with our offensive line coach and had 3 straight 10 win years at Troy.

Darin Hinshaw - Purdue QB Coach. Previously OC at UCF.

This year, Hinshaw's UCF offense ranked second in the Big 12 and 16th nationally in total offense (447.8 ypg) while averaging 30.4 points per game. With the help of Hinshaw's playcalling, running back RJ Harvey led the conference in rushing yards (1,577) and rushing touchdowns (22), while ranking fourth nationally in both categories. Harvey earned AP Third Team All-America and First Team All-Big 12 honors, while wide receiver Kobe Hudson and offensive lineman Amari Knight were named all-conference honorable mention.

Hinshaw's initial season as UCF's offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach featured one of the most productive offenses and rushing attacks in the nation. The 2023 Knights ranked eighth in total offense at 487.0 yards per contest and fourth in rushing at 228.2 yards per game (third-highest in UCF history). Both figures ranked second in the Big 12. UCF's offense was directed by veteran quarterback John Rhys Plumlee, who threw for 2,271 yards and 15 touchdowns and ran for 505 yards and five scores to claim Honorable Mention All-Big 12 honors.

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