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We've seen this in basketball a bit with the 1 and done. It's really tough to win a championship with a team of new players every year. UVA, uconn both won with teams composed largely with their recruits and had played together the year before. Lots of others played the one and done and haven't done as well.

They'd take away their championship, which well everyone remembers so not really a punishment, PSU already would have sold the memorabilia. I mean the NCAA let a player punch a bunch of people right before the game and nothing happened so ...

Brace yourself because it's getting bigger not smaller. Why is it expanding? Because it was a national crime this year that Bama, Ole Miss, and USCe didn't get a shot at a national championship- because they play really hard games all year - allegedly. So the SEC and B1G want more GAURENTEED spots- you know the opposite of earning it on the field. It will be 16 teams soon to avoid the tragedy of Shane not getting in this year.

And it's still hard for me to consider Texas an SEC team. Texas is just Texas. They should almost be independent like ND.

I think we all agree 12 is too many. I think 4 is plenty. I don't think we need to make it any bigger than 4, ever. Leave the committee in place so they can choose which 4 conference champions get to play and let the debates go from there. Make it super simple. The only way to get to the playoff is to win a conference championship. That makes it super simple for the committee. - they only have to choose from (9?) conference champions across the P4 and the G5. They pick the 4 best champions they deem fit to play and then it goes from there. Everyone else goes to bowl games like before. You want to play in the playoff? Win your goddamn conference. Done.

I think a significant factor for this is nobody having a truly elite QB on any of these top teams

I think part of the issue, and we'll see this over the next few years until things inevitably change again, is that players move around too much. They don't stay in one place and develop. Everyone wants to play NOW and nobody is willing to work behind the scenes until they get their shot. The result is that you're going to get lots of talented players that don't properly develop and make miscues related to lack of experience or lack of cohesion with the rest of their teammates.

We don't have any truly great teams this year (and we won't for a long time) because so many teams are completely overhauling their rosters every off-season because players are moving around. There's no time for coaches to build a really good team, molding the players to their schemes and identities over the course of 3 or 4 years. Coaches need to find players who can play straight out of the box. That lack of development is going to hurt the quality of the sport in the long run - and this will trickle up too. You're going to see a dip in quality from the NFL as the younger under-developed players start to take over the league. The NFL teams are going to be forced to do more development of the players as they come in since so many will come in even more raw than before. In the next 7-10 years, the best NFL players are going to be those that stuck with a single team and developed over their collegiate career before hitting the pros. They may not be the most talented, but they'll make the fewest mistakes and be the best quality players you can get.

Agree, I think 12 is way too many. 4-8 max is where it should be.

It is not relevant because I am not making a comment on who did or did not get into this year's 12 team playoff

Sure it is- a team with an elite QB- Milroe and the best resume/wins got left out. It's totally relevant.

This is a pointless and unrelated comment to anything I said here.

This really has been the perfect year for a 12 team playoff introduction because there were no true death star teams for the first time in awhile. I think a significant factor for this is nobody having a truly elite QB on any of these top teams.

What I don't want to hear is revisionism that this format would have been relevant in most years. From 2014-2022, some combination of Alabama, Clemson, Georgia and Ohio State were a step above the rest of the pack. Before that you have some seriously elite Florida, Alabama, and 2013 FSU squads. The only thing that would have changed is that teams like 2013, 2019, and 2022 Bama would have gotten a shot, 2021 Ohio State, 2018 UGA, etc.

I think one reason for the slight increase in parity is going to disappear, which is the COVID eligibility super seniors. Having a core of significantly older adult men with veteran experience on the team has helped out quite a few teams to punch up or even out talent gaps.

The parity increase that I think will stick around is the portal. While the portal is still primarily helping the top teams, it is making it slightly easier for teams to have a one season or two season shot to jump up a tier... before their own players get yoinked. NIL seems to have helped a little bit to redistribute some of the top QB's and DL talent, in particular, but I think that is still primarily benefitting the top and/or richest donor base programs more than anyone else, and by a lot.

SMU- gave Eric Dickerson a car and paid no show jobs for a month after the NCAA warning- Death Penalty, kill the program, lack of institutional control. Tulane- Hot Plate Williams dribbles a few balls off his knee in WINS- death penalty - point shaving, kill the program. BC- the largest cheating/game fixing scandal in history- no real penalty. Arizona State- widespread point shaving- no real penalty. Penn State- Their DC raped kids at a Penn State sponsored camp, paid for kids to go to bowl games to rape them, the long time QB coach tries to cover it up, the head coach lies that he knew nothing about it, then said he knew but didn't "understand" it and after a 50 year career as the head coach, de-facto govenor of PA, owns the town of happy valley has a million member cult- resigns in disgrace- no real penalty. lol.