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gee i wonder which school dropped the bag on him
They did it again!!
That was my first thought
Going to Ohio State to play with his brother rather than go pro?
Delane in portal
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# | VT, UVa, UNC and NC State fined and reprimanded by the ACC for weekend fights Agree with all of this...
Add Mansoor Delane
oof, there it is
BREAKING: #Hokies CB Mansoor Delane has entered the transfer portal The 6'1 187 lb. junior from Silver Spring, Md. had 54 tackles, 4 interceptions, 2 forced fumbles and 7 bass breakups this season1 year of eligibility remaining Story: https://t.co/KjoqDPrYXn pic.twitter.com/OsGl9Cp92E— Kolby Crawford (@kolby_crawford) December 11, 2024
At the time, I was 100% on board with the logic that if you can win at dumpster fire Memphis, you can win at VT- I was very much on board with that. It was wrong. VT's facilities that people like to bang on are literally the Taj Mahal in every way compared to Memphis... and Fu won there. The logic was solid.
Probably... why? because he would be better than 1-12 in one score games. why? because you can't be worse. We aren;t winning a natty in football, so hindsight, Diaz probably fucks up less timeouts than Pry.
agreed
I know everybody thought Fuente was a great hire at the time, but I have a lot of questions about you hire somebody to be a head football coach at the Division 1 level and not realize that they have essentially zero plan or ability to recruit. So yes, dummies (like myself) thought "good offensive coach + Bud Foster = championship". But the Athletic Director not realizing at all what a successful, modern D1 program looks like is less forgivable.
I think 2016 was in the midst of a rather large change in college football. The idea of a 'CEO coach' was not popularized - Dabo was the only one doing it. Promoting a G5 coach to the P5 was very en vogue. I think a lot of people (including Fuente and Whit and fans) thought that VT could just recruit itself and churn out top 20-30 classes.
The landscape of College Football changed so much from 2015-2020 (and even more from 2020-2024). Whit was ever so slightly behind the curve when he hired Fuente. It was costly.
#Hokies offer Tennessee Tech LB Cayman Spaulding who had 66 tackles including 11 for loss and earned All-Big South/OVC First Team honors this past season. 2 years of eligibility remaining. https://t.co/zaoI3c1emk— Tim Thomas (@TimThomasTLP) December 10, 2024
Georgia State starting OG Lamar Robinson. From Alexandria, VA and started his career at Norfolk State. One year of eligibility remaining
#Hokies offer Georgia State transfer OL Lamar RobinsonProfile: https://t.co/jyfpKKsuAK https://t.co/goOqawwOB3— Kolby Crawford (@kolby_crawford) December 10, 2024
Offered a second Richmond OL guy
#Hokies offer Richmond starting offensive tackle Parker Mitchell. He was a two-year starter for the Spiders https://t.co/IUY53HlD7z— Tim Thomas (@TimThomasTLP) December 11, 2024
I think Copeland was the Juco guy and he got hurt
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# | VT, UVa, UNC and NC State fined and reprimanded by the ACC for weekend fights all I have to say on the matter - we have grown incredibly soft as a society
you can tell we take ourselves far too seriously when we get upset about a college football player "planting" a flag in the field of the rival they just beat. Michigan won. You don't want them to plant a flag on your field? Don't let them win. Simple as that. If they do, suck it up, buttercup. Get better and don't allow it next time. Or, better yet, take that energy and focus it on beating them on their field so you can retaliate.
god we are so f*ing soft. bunch of wussies
Agreed. We hired Pry because he knew what "big time football" looked like. Well if he brings back the same staff that underachieved to go 6-6, that aint big time football.
If they mix it up, it at least says they know what should happen. Whether they'll be able to execute and win games is always a different story
if "connection to beamer" was the only selling point, why wasn't anyone else the guy? Why was it someone whose only connection was as a GA 25 years prior? Could have had JC Price, already in the building and way cheaper! Could have hired Scot Loeffler with his HC experience! Could have hired Shane with a godfather offer, he's LITERALLY A BEAMER!
Brent Pry was so far under the radar that bar1990 suggested him as a potential candidate as soon as it was clear that Fuente was gone. Yes the connection to VT had a say in it -- that was biggest criticism of Fuente! Didn't get it, didn't understand it, didn't make an effort. Culture fit matters, but someone being a culture fit doesn't mean that it was their only qualification.
Should we have hired Manny Diaz to replace Fuente after he got canned at Miami? honest question -- that's like the only name that can come to mind immediately for P5 HC criteria who was available that cycle.
edit: leaving the top part for posterity but i don't feel like getting into this now. Manny is a fun alternative though!
Shane will smoke us and for 3 hours in prime time we get to hear Sean McDonough say "former hokie, dad was a legend, how sweet this must be for him"
Boy that is going to sting. I've got like 8 months to prepare myself.
I'm not done with Pry yet. I'm close... but I'm not done yet. If we groundhog day it with the same exact staff heading into the Sugar Shane game expecting the win fairy to show up, I am more than done with Pry/Whit. Why? because Shane will smoke us and for 3 hours in prime time we get to hear Sean McDonough say "former hokie, dad was a legend, how sweet this must be for him" - and I'd rather the hokies win in that spot.
I think I'm more lenient to Whit on the Pry hiring and associated blind spots/risks. I've never interviewed anyone for a head coaching job, but I would think that assessing someone's game management ability would be kind of difficult. What do you do - ask them hypothetical questions about how to handle the last two minutes of a game? Pry checked a lot of boxes that we thought we needed Post-Fuente, so I can understand how we got here.
I know everybody thought Fuente was a great hire at the time, but I have a lot of questions about you hire somebody to be a head football coach at the Division 1 level and not realize that they have essentially zero plan or ability to recruit. So yes, dummies (like myself) thought "good offensive coach + Bud Foster = championship". But the Athletic Director not realizing at all what a successful, modern D1 program looks like is less forgivable.
These are absolutely accurate and fair points.
- I'm not discounting his time as a co-DC - especially seeing as his long time co-DC (Bob Shoop) has drastically underperformed at almost every stop since he stopped DCing with Pry.
- Point taken about the advantage of the PSU polo - recruiting at BlueBloodU will always be different than recruiting at VT.
- I do think that it was important to get someone who could modernize VT and help reset/upgrade booster expectations on funding an FBS football program. He was hired to do that, and that is one of the few areas where he is meeting expecations
One thing to consider is a lot of these players were being recruited during the COVID era where there was a lot less in-person recruiting/scouting, camps, etc. which led to a number of players going under the radar. Some of these guys may very well be capable of playing in P4 and just needed to prove themselves.
Manny in Blacksburg is weird to think about, but I also think it's weird to see him at Penn State or Duke. I happen to think he's a good coach who got shafted at Miami.