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Only if Rodgers liked him when he worked the stand at Lambeau.
I'll agree that he brought in a couple of solid contributors. He had something to sell: be part of the rebuild.
I don't think we have the same optics now. Which brings me back to the original point: will he still be able to convince players to come here when the program isn't trending in the right direction.
Can't wait for the SEC commissioner to come our and say the SEC should get 6 auto bids.
So how are they doing it with a first year coach? How did Mike Elko do it in a couple of years?
Glad I got to experience the Beamer era run, where our players and coaches just wanted and expected more against the likes of Duke!
Brock Hoffman starting for the injured Zach Martin at guard for the Cowboys.
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I'm not saying they're Georgia or Ohio State. But just like you can only make excuses for losing for so long before you accept the fact you are a losing program, it goes the other way too. Duke is a winning program right now, that's a statement of fact.
Marve should have been escorted off the field after Duke's first two possessions
Good point, not what I meant to do but I see it from your perspective, sorry for being kind of a jerk on the way out
Agreed
Duke managed to lose to SMU with a +6 turnover margin.
Duke played like crap last night and still beat us. Diaz laughed about how terrible his team looked in the postgame.
What you said about who they are is absolutely correct. And yet it makes us look so much worse in comparison
Ugh. 😭😭😭
Yeah don't get fooled by Duke. They have mastered the soft OOC scheduling to get them a decent win total every year now. Not saying they are awful, but they also aren't great by any stretch. They basically gifted the game to us with so many turnovers and we are so pathetic we couldn't do much with it.
Duke beat FSU on their 3rd QB, NC State on their 3rd QB, Virginia Tech on their 3rd QB, and UNC and Mack Brown on his last brain cell as he had a 20 point lead and failed to run clock in second half. Those are their four ACC wins. Their best win was probably over now 7-4 UConn. It's the only team they beat with more than 6 wins.
That may be, and I get it, but that's largely a function of the fact that Duke has a pretty good football program right now.
They are 25-12 the last 3 seasons, and may very well win 10 games this year. Let's at least be honest with the facts.
Just to keep things in perspective, how many TOTAL yards of offense did the Hokies have against Clemson?
Oh 47 less than the Citadel rushed for.
It starts with demanding you win the games you are supposed to win. Period. Start there. Beat fucking Purdue Marshall
Rutgers Vandy cuse - you know dogshit teams . Do that first . Then actually improve
and with 160 seconds left in the game and 4 clock stops remaining, his first move is to delete 25% of it (i.e., the time)
Debt, increased student fees, rich individual donors or small group of donors, luck of geography or historical quirk that means most people in a given state support the program and in a small few cases finding generational talents to take them to the promised land either coaches or players.
A MAJOR problem with Whit has been that he seemingly makes these, at the time of, great hires. But then he pretty much puts the machine on cruise control and sees how things play out. If he is demanding near perfection from the coaches, the staff, the money-raisers, then he is failing on 2 accounts:
- His demands are, for the most part, falling on deaf (or inept) ears
- His demands are under such inner-program cloak that, from the outside, he is destroying his credibility because it appears as if he isn't capabale of seeing just what a shit football program we have become
To the 2nd point, I absolutely 100% am fucking sick of this way of running things. If you are a grown ass man/woman who can't take hard criticisms about how you are failing at your job, start packing. If your answer to the abysmal product you are creating is "Aww, shucks. Football is hard. We'll practice harder and hope for a better outcome next week!", start packing.
Tulsa fires Kevin Wilson
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I'm not sure why we think changing coaches will turn us into some sort of contender. I don't think any team has figured out the NIL/Transfer Portal landscape yet. It chased Saban away from the game and it'll likely lead to other coaches leaving. Every coach that has been mentioned as "sure things" over the last 10 years have ended up being busts as head coaches. Chad Morris...gone, Tom Herman...gone, Napier..disappointing and probably gone soon, etc. Teams with all the money in the world are relative disappointments (Texas A&M, Alabama, Michigan, etc). In my opinion, this is because nobody can build and retain talent anymore. The big names can't horde talent anymore, and smaller names can't rely on stars staying. The roster changes every single year.
With regards to Pry, we may be disappointed with the Pry's time management but I'm not sure paying him an exit fee and then going after another unproven assistant does anything for us. Especially when we're going to be limited to assistants that have strong ties to the DMV region for that candidate search.
Pry has to cut Marve and probably get himself a real assistant head coach (we gave this to Mines to keep him but he adds nothing from a head coach support perspective). Pry wont go anywhere for a few years. I don't necessarily mind that. He's not Saban. We all know that. Saban is also not walking through those doors.
As for Whit, I know it comes down to wins or losses but he's bringing in more money than we ever had, he's got a bunch of the non-rev sports to be expectation worthy which is something we've never had. Our biggest basketball accomplishments before Whit was was an A10 championship in the 90s...it's not like we've ever been world beaters there. We have an ACC title and multiple madness appearances now. Football hasn't produced but Fuente was a "home run hire" when Whit brought him here, Pry wasn't a big name but the football alumni and high school network love him so not sure we're going to be able to replace that easily.
Anyhow, I was prepared for a rebuilding couple of seasons and this season hasn't convinced me that we're awful or that we're good. I figured it would take 5 years to rebuild the recruiting network and also get depth of some kind. I have no idea if it should be less or more than that given the portal and NIL.