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we all hope he's wrong. Unfortunately, I think we all also know he's probably right. I'd be SHOCKED if we finish 6-6 or better and Marve is fired. In fact, I'd be pretty surprised if Marve is fired even if we lose out.

That said, I'm in complete agreement. I hope he's fired regardless. Defense has been a big problem for us for all 3 years he's been here and it hasn't improved at all. This season was a massive disappointment and the biggest culprits are completely bungled end-of-half management choices and the failure to get a stop when we really need one. Pry can't really fire himself so he's left with firing Marve. I don't have a lot of faith that he'll do that but we'll see. I'll be encouraged if he does. If he doesn't, I'm writing off next season as a painfully dismal one.

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5 years ago if I couldn't watch a game because of some event I couldn't get out of I just wasn't present. Half my mind was always on the game. Now, though. If I'm going to miss the game because I'm having dinner with friends, I don't care.

This is so real.

Even during Buzz's first season when we really sucked I watched every game. Now half the time I don't even know when we're playing

I also hope you are very wrong on Marve. All I want for Christmas from Pry and/or Whit is a new DC. Not a shiny new one. I want a competent one, can even be someone that is worn around the edges as long as he knows defense.

I am hoping you are very wrong. I want Marve gone if we finish the regular season at 7-5. We lost too many games because of complete defensive breakdowns.

Game is sold out. 50k plus people will be there regardless to watch us play and hopefully beat UVA.

Wish I could. Wind's howling, waves are 4-5', cold as a titch's witty...nope.

Don't you even dare say that! /s or not, that's just evil talk.

yeah, he's for real in a tricky spot - it might depend a bit on what happens with the coaching staff in the off-season. I don't expect Pry to make any major changes but if he does, I would expect it to be Marve. If he surprises everyone and lets Bowen go, then maybe we see a mass exodus on the offensive side, including Drones.

Isn't he also banged up? I thought that was why they kept Drones out there even though he clearly wasn't able to be effective vs Clemson.

I used to care so much. I would go out of my way to watch VT sports and get really emotionally invested. If we lost it would tank my weekend and bleed into Monday. Wins would put a little extra pep in my step for the rest of the week. I really enjoyed watching other games, too. Especially knowing we had won already. Nowadays, I hardly make time for VT. Our schedule doesn't revolve around the football games as much as it once did because, frankly, it just hasn't been fun to watch for over a decade. Even some wins left me feeling a bit down. This year's GT game comes to mind. I've never felt more like we lost a game after a 2 score win. Like, yeah, it was great to win but my goodness was it hard to watch. And not fun, at all. The upside of all of it is that I'm so much less emotionally invested that when we do lose it doesn't ruin my weekend. And I can actually truly enjoy my time out doing whatever it is I'm doing while I'm missing a game. 5 years ago if I couldn't watch a game because of some event I couldn't get out of I just wasn't present. Half my mind was always on the game. Now, though. If I'm going to miss the game because I'm having dinner with friends, I don't care. I'll enjoy my time with friends and not even give the game a thought until I get home. That's nice.

One bright note - our rapid decline has likely led to an improvement in my blood pressure because I am completely apathetic when it comes to VT sports at this point.

I didn't even realize we were playing last night, might watch a quarter of the Duke game Saturday, might not. Gone from die-hard to don't give a fuck in a matter of a few years.