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yeah I guess I see where you're coming from. What if QB1 goes down to injury? Or QB2? Then who is going to throw those screens? Who is going to pose a running threat from the QB position to keep the Linebackers from cheating outside? Our WRs might be more experienced by the fall but somebody else might be brand new at a different position. I don't think the first year with a new HC is the year to dream about beating established programs (that's not going to stop me from dreaming, though, I promise) like ND and Tenn. I think if we manage to stay healthy then our chances of beating ND should better in November than they might be in the first month of the season. But they will also have more game film and will see how other teams try to defend us. What works? What doesn't work? We just won't have the element of surprise against ND that we might have to make the Tenn game interesting.

there are other ways then gauging fans to go see an average product. Not everyone has loads of cash laying around to GIVE to vt. im a recent college graduate with a child and soon to be married giving tech an extra 1200 a year isnt in the budget and im gonna guess more are in my category then in the 100,000 a year donation category.

And while the shortfall adds up to over 20 million what do you think will happen to the program?

I still have these!! Bought the boxed set so we could watch them with the kids. That and old home movies are the only things we keep the VCR for. Isn't this the set that comes with the original "how it was made" series by Lucas, with the different size models, examples of relative distance filming for making thing look larger, and pin hole stars?

Then the Hokie Club and Athletic Department need to do what Whit stated and make fundraising less "transactional" and more "philanthropic" in nature. We can keep raising our ticket prices, seat surcharges, concessions, whatever. Eventually, the overall cost per game to come watch football is going to very strongly outweigh the benefits for some. "Why should I keep paying more and more for football tickets when I can just watch at home?" They need to figure out some other angle to approach fundraising other than a means of paying for football tickets. What's in it for me as a Hokie Club member other than tickets? What other benefits or advantages can they offer for my philanthropy? I keep hearing that this aspect has been missing in our fundraising, but I see little in the way of solutions offered that don't focus on football tickets.

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But without all the information, how are we supposed to second guess the decisions other people made in the past with the benefit of knowing how it all worked out in the future (which, of course, those decision makers didn't know at the time)? /s

just playing devil's advocate here.

I think we all agree that any time the price of anything goes up people are going to complain. Right?

So if you raise the price by $50-$100 people are going to complain. Eventually, after the dust settles, people will move on and everything will go back to normal and be peachy again.

Well, if you turn around and raise it AGAIN the following year, people are really going to wonder what the heck is going on. "The prices are going up EVERY YEAR" they'll say. And that could actually lead to more problems. If you raise the price once people will complain and then get over it. If you raise it a couple times in quick succession people will start to wonder when the price hikes will stop. Fear could drive them away.

All I will say is man my HD tv is looking like a better option every time the prices rise.

it's kind of a double edged sword. ND has more depth than VT does. Playing them at the beginning of the season would benefit us because we are more likely to be healthy. It's a disadvantage because we aren't experienced enough to execute at a high level. On the other hand, playing them at the end of the season would be an advantage because we'd have a few more miles under our tires and should, theoretically, be able to execute at a higher level. However, if we get hit by a couple of key injuries, we just don't have the depth to keep up with a team like ND. So playing them early in the season versus late in the season could be a wash. They are a more experienced, deeper team right now and I don't think we'll surprise them without quite a bit of good luck.

I'm just glad ND is so late in the season. I feel reasonable about surprising them

While I understand there are tough choices for many on whether they can increase their current Hokie Club donation, it is extremely disconcerting to me that some are reading the material published by the Hokie Club regarding our multi-million dollar gap between donations and scholarship expenses, as well as our 11th place ACC standing in donors & dollars, and their takeaway is they are going to reduce or eliminate their current donation.