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It's like that song that P Diddy did with Paul McCartney and all these young people were tweeting how famous P Diddy was going to make Paul. People were like "I don't know who Paul McCartney is but P Diddy just made him famous." ha ha ha ha

Are we sure Buzz is not SR's father? I have only seen him in shirts and ties (and obviously that sweet ass sweater) but he looks pretty stout and neckless so maybe he taught them all truck pushing?

mostly kidding. truck is sweet no doubt, but you don't let rust holes onto the body. that's a no no where I come from.

As someone who has spoken about immediate change, see above, I feel Frank is here through Jan 2, 2017.

If it's another 7-5 season Frank gets his notice to wrap it up and does so, so I hope, See Bobby Bowden. Because of that 2016 is a sellout and a Beamer fanfest and the atmosphere breeds success and we all leave happy with Beamer.

If it's 10-3 Beamer has 2 years.

At the heart of it, Beamer's game calling/football management hasn't kept up with College football.

Beamerball has been adapted for by all teams.
24/7 rates nearly 7,000 High school seniors pretty reliably reducing the chances of finding many Jake Grooves anymore.

  • All the while football rewards top recruiting with the Top games. See the top 10 recruiting schools vs The National Champions .
  • And Top recruits want time to play not to be split up like a committee of players taking turns(Can we Please have a solo back).

Time of possession means less if you're not scoring points only running the clock. Yea we held the ball longest, and only won by a few points or lost. When your opponent's QB can move you all the way down field in 3 plays it has more to do with leading the sport in points scored

The VT fanbase and culture wouldn't support immediate changes but it's time to start changing as fast as the fans can handle it

I'm just gonna be lazy and copy paste an old comment that still states it for me

Still hating on Scot Loeffler and/or Beamer?

| commented 5 months 2 weeks ago |
Yes
Yes I am still requesting Frank to graciously step down and allow us a year of remembering him and a year of transition through the 2015 season.
6 games to honor the achievements
20 years since the First BCS Bowl Win
15 years since the NC Game

Recruiting
Recruiting continues to focus to narrowly on the state of Virginia. Of the 116 players on the roster currently We have 1 Payer from Texas, 0 from Cali, TN, MS, or Alabama. There are only 6 from Fla
6.03% of the roster comes from the 'hotbeds' of football recruiting
Since 2012 More than 60% of players at Tech are instate
UVa has 50% instate
Clemson - 35%
Stanford - 23%
Auburn - 28%
Wisconsin - 26%
Nebraska - 9%
Ole Miss 44%
UGa - 52%

Who we Recruit now
Our defense was fine . yea depth will be nice and it's some nice pickups but whats the difference having a Top 15 D vs Top 5 when theres been no Offense recruiting change

So who's at fault for not recruiting a better Oline. Again this year we aren't doing great but don't seem to be looking at making that better again

Colt or Billy Ray are exactly what Tech needs in spades
Signing 2 Good level players is a start, not a finishing point

USC signed 4 OG that were ranked in the Top 25 of OG/OT recruits in 2014 class, and followed it this year signing the #2 OT in 2015
Ole Miss Signed 2 Top 25 OG/OT recruits in 2013, then 3 in 2014, and 2 more commited for 2015
All of that is just those that rank at top 25, add in more that are not at top 25 Olineman
Same thing is at Wisconsin and Ohio St., Florida St, and Clemson
Of the Top 75 OT and Top 75 OG ranked by 247 two chose Tech in 2014 class.

We recruited the 4th best class in the ACC last year, in 2013, and 2012 and we are right there again this year. Yes we are getting better players but so is the rest of the ACC.

Offensive times, They are a changin'

Time of possession matters* (Big asterisk)
*Only if you're scoring points
GTech's clock draining, nation's leading rushing triple option gameplan has GT 4th in TOP 2nd in Rushing and 12th in points scored
Mich State is 1st in TOP and 7th in scoring and 22nd in Rushing
Wisconsin is 6th in TOP 4th in rushing, and 29th in Scoring
VTech is 36th in TOP and 96th in scoring
OSU is 35th in TOP and 5th in scoring

The reaction to Scott LOEFFLER on here when he was hired was a fear for the loss of the running game that he brought with him a high/fast pass game.
Yet at the end of this season we are still attempting more running plays per game than passing plays 39r-36p. So did LOEFFLER evolve to like Beamerball offense and the rushing game or is there a resistance to call a passing based game from internal pressure.

Who's ready for 2014, whoops, I meant Who's ready for 2015, sorry, really though, I meant Who's ready for 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!
After building up 2014 as the season to rebuild in to 2015 success
Yet now 2015 is the building for 2016 success
In Bitter's Q&A a question came on 2015 Results he gave the expectation of a 7-5 season on another weak schedule

So to quote myself a few times

Aren't we all looking for great success

National Championship Game

Playoff Game

ACC Championship Game

ACC Champions

Jan 1 Bowl Game

A Bowl Game

Is getting to A Bowl Game really getting where we want
And an important one to remember

someone needs to start the push.

Beamer is following a bad path. Bowden, Brown, Fulmer, and Paterno

(Side Bar - Apr 16 2008, The announcement Wednesday is that contract talks are on hold until the conclusion of this season, and that Joe might not even need a contract to coach, how do you see this saga ending? Is this the final year for Joe Paterno?

The story ends when Joe says it's over. He and Spanier went head-to-head and Joe won. He played his trump card when he publicly stated he didn't need a contract to keep coaching. He was basically daring Spanier to fire him, and Spanier had neither the support or balls to do it. He had no choice but to give Joe a vote of confidence for the sake of the Penn State Football Empire.)

Between the 4, There were - 19 Conference Championships won, 6 National Championships Won, and 4 Heisman Trophy winners, yet in the Last 6 years of each of their careers they won only one conference championship before being forced out. Except Fulmer who couldn't win one of the 3 Conference Championship games he Coached in during his last 6 years

Bowden was told to retire. He was told he was running out of time to coach.

He was told to wrap it up
He ignored all the writing on the wall but FSU was already preparing for the football program to continue. Bowden didn't accept change and lost a Lifetime Mentor, a boss that supported him, and a lifetime best friend. (the relationship between the AD and Bowden was very deep) But FSU was ready and prepared to move on
And the life of a kicked out coach

"This time, Bobby Bowden accepted Florida State's invitation to return to Doak Campbell Stadium for a Seminole football game." After a 4 year hiatus the coach returns for his first home game and will only be attending 2 games

Not trying to start any heated debate here either, but I am curious: do you think that Beamer is here at least through 2016, regardless of what happens this year? I understand and support keeping the staff as is intact for the remainder of Beamer's tenure. But if we have another 7-6/8-5 season, is Beamer still automatically back next year?

Personally, I don't think so, and I would prefer not. Had we not rallied and beaten UVa and won the bowl, I thought change might have happened after the season. The general fanbase mood/atmosphere was the most sour I can remember after the Wake game. Luckily, we were able to pull it together, and we were sold on the hopes of a better season next year, with injuries, youth, and inexperience holding us back that season.

Another mediocre season and disappointing offense, and I think excuses will have worn extremely thin. Yes, Loeffler has amassed some great talent on offense, and I think he is unquestionably a great football mind. But at some point, that has got to translate into results. I have a ton of faith we can get things turned around this season, but if we stumble again, I'm personally not in favor of continuing with the status quo into 2016. This team is capable of winning at least 9 and competing for the ACC title this year, and that should be the bar for success. Not trying to start an uproar, just trying to rationally discuss.

Stop, all of you, stop. You cannot argue about music. Nothing is so subjective, so personal, so absolutely impervious to opinion as music. Music in any and all of it's forms is perfect, whether you get it or not.

Agree that Lefty is in for two more years, minimum.

As for a transition to Bud, I think not. I love Bud, but I'd be surprised if he's our next HC. No value judgement here, just don't think that's in the cards for him. Not sure that would be best for VT or for Bud, either. He's a great DC and I think he'd dilute his greatness by trying to do HC stuff, much of which has nothing to do with coaching. Just like Mike Burnop is still the color guy and we're hiring a new "voice", Bud's genius lies in his iron vice like grip on our defensive scheme. But like fernleyhokie says, it's just speculation.

yeah, exactly. Lefty has brought in the QB talent for sure. And I think a lot of people don't realize just how bad things were. the notion that we could rebuild in a year or 2 from where we were and have a competent performing offense is not rational. Last year had to be frustrating with injuries because clearly we had potential. And the OL last year was still coming around.

So is this his make or break year, or simply year 1 of Lefty doing his thing after rebuilding. If it his first year after the rebiulding, then like any coach, unless he absolutely bombs, you would expect at least 2 years.

This may set off a heated debate, so let me start by saying this is just speculation not necessary my opinion, but I think if we are north of 7 wins Lefty is going to be retained no matter what. And next year (2016) will be his make or break season.

It's just a feeling I have. I just don't think his seat is as hot as everyone thinks and i don't think Beamer is going to bring in a new OC for Bristol unless he absolutely must. But I could be entirely wrong.

I also think after 2016 we will see a transition to Bud within 2 years, maybe after 2016, maybe as far out as 2018. Once Bud takes over he will retain as much staff as possible. Again just speculation.

One thing thats hard to argue is the recruiting turnaround at QB as a result of Lefty's efforts. Say what you want about OC ability and results thus far, but I hate to think where we'd be without him at this point. I'm still of the thought that this is the make or break year for him. He has weapons/health/depth (sortof) and veteran experience in his system at this point so now is the time to shine and earn his paycheck.

The real question will be, if we have another year of injury setbacks that start to affect the win percentage, will this be enough to warrant keeping him?

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