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The reason why we're expressing a wee bit (I said wee) of disappointment is that our heart is soooo big we want all of them for the family and we feel sad and disappointed they'll never know what they missed.

French talked about missing out on top in-state defensive talent; While it is frustrating to see these guys head OOS (or worse, LOLUVA), I have no doubt that Foster will put together another to top-10 defense, comparable to the Alabamas and FSUs. Foster just does it with less star power.
It was good to see that Seattle had success with a similar system as well; great DBs, lots of QB pressure, focus on assignments, know your opponent, and play with intensity. That whole defense is a cluster of scheme guys who work together.

Now on the other side of the ball VT had a different problem. The past offensive coaches didn't have a successful system, recruited athletes then switched their positions, then had to wait years for these guys to be productive. Rarely did anyone play offensive line before being a R-Soph. Painter was our highest-rated O-line recruit and didn't play until his 5th year. Scrambling QBs were a necessity at VT because there were so many issues with the O-line.

The new coaches seem to at least have a plan, are recruiting players to fit their scheme, and are having offensive recruiting success because their scheme translates well to "the league". Last year was a bit crazy, not having players that fit their scheme. Starting so many unheralded freshman against Alabama showed all of us just how thin this team was last year.

Next year promises to be a good one, and I expect to see lots of contributions from the incoming crew. Another thread mentioned we might have 10 incoming freshman who might play next season, which means they can make this offense (and defense) better right now.

Let FSU and LOLUVA have their Thoroughbreds, these players we got today are going to be some big-time contributors in the years ahead.

Bronson to DT wouldn't shock me. Keihn will be at backer along with Minor (although I think Minor would be a stud at whip against pro-sets.) Fisher I *think* will be a free safety and Reavis will be a rover (more in my film reviews of both.)

Kam set the tone for the Seattle defense. He personifies what they're about...

Agree..with one minor tweak. I think Kam is the REASON that toughness is what they're about. I believe that defensive mentality was strongly influenced by Kam more-so than Kam fitting into a defense that already had said mentality. (But I'm looking at that through pretty thick O&M shades)

Recency

I love learning new words..I didn't know you could do that to 'recent'

I remember Kam playing great in the SB like it was just last weekend.

This!!

I know everybody loves to wish players the best even when they don't pick us, but I'm REALLY hoping that Harrison turns out like the last guy to do this to us (Lockhart). You don't decommit from a school on signing day. You just don't. I know it didn't come as a surprise, but he should have flipped weeks ago when his mind changed. Waiting is incredibly disrespectful as it puts us in a bind and potentially takes a spot away from another player.

And to anyone saying that it's not that bad, if a babe decided the morning of prom to go with some other dude, despite initially saying "yes" to you, would you wish them a good time? Yeah, didn't think so..

Disappointments aside, I'm really pumped for this class. Now that we're phasing out the weak classes of 10 and 11 and bringing in some more talented classes, we'll be back to the 10 win standard in no time.

Congrats to Javon Harrison, hope he does well at FSU. In the same vein as my comment about Nnadi on the other thread, I hope he succeeds admirably and suffers losses to VT.

Let's create two divisions:

The Atlantic Coast Conference Divisions:

ACC - Big East Division
ACC - ACC Division

In all seriousness, three or four permanent rivals with five or six rotating games every year. Let's get each player to play a home and away game against all other teams within their four year career. Not sure if this is possible, but too lazy at the moment to math.

The Wizard of Westwood was one of my fraternity's greatest alums. I even went to a leadership seminar at Miami of Ohio (beautiful campus, by the way) created in his honor one summer. He could probably even make me enjoy basketball if he mentored me in the early days.

I just now got to this thread...

1) Yes, Kam set the tone for the Seattle defense. He personifies what they're about and played well. After the game, I wondered who would get it and thought Kam had a good shot, but was not going to waste one more minute on that dumpster fire.

2) Andy pwnage!

3) Freeman has a shot because stats. I'd go with Chancellor for two reasons: a) I was a Hokie fan when Kam went to VT, and 2) Recency. I remember Kam playing great in the SB like it was just last weekend.

True to an extent.

Maryland kept the top 2 players in their home state this year. They kept Diggs from leaving in 2012.

If Maryland can fight off the wolves, it can be done.

Great concluding message after an exciting national signing day, French. I will give VT class a B. If Bud Foster can fish out a top 5 defense from previously lower ranked class ( Maddy was a 2 star recruit ), then coach foster has enough talent to produce a number one defense out of this class. There is no reason to lose any sleep of the decision of those who decided to go elsewhere, some of them had made their decision before hand ( Nnadi ) and others wanted to go their dream school that's just won a national championship. You can't fault the recruits from going to the CHAMPS. We can't blame the coach either because they worked their butts off traveling to visit recruits and bring in a top 25 class, there's nothing they could have done to change made-up minds. A lot of program cant say they bring a top 25 class for 2 years in a row. The fans are disappointed because they had their hopes up too high. Hokie Nation is passionate and is reacting like Richard Sherman after beating San Francisco. Once the dust settles, we will all realize that the program has an awesome class to work with. GO HOKIES!

Yup. The PSU folks up here (read: everyone here) is still unhappy about that.

Yep, those are winning programs. Reality: we have slipped. And with the turnover next year, we are realistically a full season away from showing an improvement. And that's just another year closer to the Beamer Transition issue

Speaking if Tweeners, thoughts on Mihota and/or Bronson sliding to DT? Keihn to DE? Fisher to Backer?

Are those the types if moves that suit Fosters system but eventually hurt us in recruiting because they are taking those players away from their NFL potential?

I wonder how people would feel about things if Phillips and the Fords were from VA while Hand and Nnadi were from Florida. I'd probably be less annoyed.

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