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Agreed on those two games, but there is selective memory about the good ol days. I watched the 98 team take a physical whippin at M'town. I didn't think Al Clark would make it through the game and the game wasn't a blow out (28-17). Our line was the same tough guys who went 11-1 a year later. And NCSU beat the crap out out of Randall in 2004 and we had a chance to win. It seems like sometimes there are just bad individual match ups and some times it is endemic (hello Broncos)
I think the biggest problem with our lack of getting "big-time" players is Frank Beamer. No, I am not calling for him to be fired, but I think he has to change. For recruiting to be successful now-a-days, the head coach has to be extremely active in recruiting. We see pictures ALL THE TIME of Saban at the homes of recruits. The only time we see Frank at an in-home visit or visiting a school is when he is with his son, Shane. Even though London doesn't win, he has a point:
#UVA coach Mike London on his role in recruiting: I think the head coach has to be a star on the staff recruiting as well.— Mike Barber (@RTD_MikeBarber) February 4, 2014
London is getting these studs because he is a focal point in the recruiting process. Recruits want to see that the head coach wants them. And it certainly doesn't help when London is at the homes and schools of these recruits and Beamer is deviating the responsibilities to Steinspring and the other assistants. Granted, I do not know what goes on behind closed doors, but Beamer needs to be more involved. Frank can call the recruits all he wants, but at the end of the day he needs to be visiting them in person.
as always - thanks for the well considered response - I really love the Babcock hire and I don't think it can be overstated how important getting the former players and Hokie Club contributions fixed (both monetary and visible support) will help us long term and it looks like Babcock is the guy for the job. I really hope we are able to take advantage of all the opportunity Frank, Foster, MV, etc. have given us to take VT to that consistent, elite level.
Excellent post French.
I'm very happy with this recruiting class because it addressed our biggest areas of need - which is playmakers on OFFENSE. Shai & Marshawn, Ford&Durkin, Ford&Phillips (4* WRs) and Holland&Bradshaw (3* WRs) - THAT is what this program needed. Hell, I was sold at Shai & Marshawn.
Obviously - the program also needs good OL : I think we have some good OL from this year's class and last, and we have a new OL coach who's recruited at tons of big schools and I'm hopeful can bring home even better OL at VT in 2015.
And then there's defense - which of course is where all the big in-state misses were. Like everyone else, I wish some of those guys had come here...but last year was a good class, next year will be a good class, and this year is pretty damn solid too. Let's face it - we all know Bud will work some magic here. My real concerns were on offense, and I was happy to see some big named brought in there.
People are so quick to forget some things after going 7-6 and 8-4. For years (roughly 12 of them), all ESPN and others could talk about is how great of a job VT did at ignoring * ratings, and finding and bringing in guys who fit their system, have the right work ethic, and develop them into great players. For years, we never had a top-15 class but were always ranked in the top 15. And we never had the ACC's #1 class (miami, clemson, fsu were always ahead of us), but more often than not we won the ACC.
So to me, what French is saying makes total sense. These coaches have perfected the art of finding & developing the RIGHT players, not the highest rated players, and winning a lot of games. And now we have a better offensive staff and the same great defensive staff. Sure, there were some misses - but every school has misses, including FSU and Bama. It's life when you recruit 18yr olds.
What FSU and Bama don't have is people saying it's time to replace their head coaches...those posts influence 18yr olds, so if you're posting that kinda stuff, then you're directly hindering VT's recruiting efforts.
Great class, especially on offense, and let's keep the momentum going for 2015
You also have to consider the # of instate major programs there are. Ohio and Florida/Texas are very different in that regard.
In that case, previous quagmire post that was originally to be applied to UFS for stealing Nnadi but was reapplied to Muschamp and FU is now officially back on for Jimbo and UFS.
Is Fisher good enough to eat into Bonners PT in 14?
I don't really agree with everything you said, but I'll say this: I do hope Babcock is developing an exit strategy and that's no disrespect to Beamer. That's just being realistic of the current situation and looking ahead (his age, contract year soon, and a bit of our recent woes).
In no way am I saying the exit strategy needs to have a quickly approaching deadline. Just saying the exit strategy should always be in the back of his mind, and I don't think the fans should have to pressure that. If he's a good AD, he'll be aware of the situation.
Best of luck to those that decided not to attend Virginia Tech in favor of other programs. With this said I hope Revis, Fisher, Walker, Ford^2, etc. adopt the Lunch Pail mentality that has made previous Tech teams great and make those recruits that could have joined up with the good guys regret their decision when watching/playing against us.
Hitch is a point I've been making for a long time.
Then I realize Miami must be REALLY be doing something wrong.
All they should to do is whisper South Beach to these guys and get 1/2 of them just with that.
epitomizes the blue-collar mentality that I love about VT...don't go chasing the 'easy' dollar bills..work hard and honorably to do it the right way
I've written this before, but the two people who could have pushed Beamer out and survived the fallout were/are Steger and Weaver. Weaver's gone, and Steger's gone on June 1.
I think the dilemma here is :
1. BmoreHokie isn't really saying to compare the levels of talent. Instead, he's saying the bigger and/or more talent rich states naturally have more talent, so to do an accurate assessment one must choose their sample sizes relative to each state's size and/or talent level.
2. But I think Adrian (nice name btw, I'm an Adrian myself) was unconcerned with comparing talent in any regard. I think he just chose top 10's because that's easiest to do and presents a quick breakdown of the numbers.
I don't think either way is wrong but I do think BmoreHokie's way may be a more accurate, more in depth analysis. For Cali/Tx/Fla increase the sample sizes and see what the numbers say then. The percentage may come out to the same as what you already discovered. The link Bmore provided gives the basis to create the exchange rate, so to speak.
Ahem.
"If you are telling me that the price of winning the ACC is entering a gray area, or even stepping out of bounds, as far as NCAA rules go, then count me as happy with 9-4."
Me too. I'd rather have a clean, decent program. College Football these days may be big bucks business, but I want my school to be honorable.
You think that's what Exum was doing?
Just like they did at Miami and UNC, right?
He enrolled for spring semester back in January.
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# | Bitter blog - The best a Hokie has played in the Super Bowl? Chancellor has an argument To your first point, agreed!
Also, psychology:
Recency in the serial position effect can be explained because more recent memories encoded will share a temporal context most similar to the present context, as the stochastic nature of time will not have had as pronounced an effect. Wikipedia
I haven't seen confirmation on that. I know he was dealing with an ankle injury the last two games.
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# | I'm new here and love this site, just wish I had known about it earlier. Great job! Indeed. Thank you, french.
Thanks
RMFW came from Stonewall, too. I'm not discounting the Settle possibility.

Also seems like we've had more injuries in recent years...wonder if we don't need a Shannon Turley conditioning approach to focus as strongly on flexibility as strength.