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Yeah, you have a JD. Good for you. It's a great achievement. You having a J.D. is meaningless when you are wrong however. My entire family are lawyers. My uncle, retired now, was the top construction lawyer in the world, yes world. My cousin is a very well known State's Attorney in CA, his wife a famous environmental lawyer, their son a constitutional lawyer in D.C. Another cousin a tax attorney. My grandfather was a patent attorney and alumni of VT in '39. My brother's wife a divorce attorney. All of them, including my grandfather when he was alive, have said this is a constitutional issue.
The topic is Fans tweeting recruits. My questions 1) and 2) are about athletes. These are two distinct conversations both related to the fact that social media and the NCAA has constitutional implications. You really need to read more carefully.
The basis of our debate is you dismissively stating this is not a First Amendment issue, based on zero fact. You only say: because the NCAA says so. In fact Social Media and NCAA is a constitutional issue as I have shown. It's already a point of conversation in the legal profession. Whether it is about fans or athletes is irrelevant to the main point that this is a constitutional issue for lawyers today. it is. I've already proved this. Browning's career is now centered on this. The fact that there is not an existing case pending about the specific topic of fans tweeting recruits does not mean there is no constitutional issue.
Yes I used google search and through that simple google search I have more than proved you wrong. How? by using things called facts. Things someone with a J.D. should know is needed when forming an argument. I live in China though, so I can't simply go somewhere to research this. You can. Yet you cannot even do a google search. Why? because you have nothing to support your argument.
You seem to regard the NCAA as some all powerful entity that can dictate themselves over everyone. They can't. They have no power to do so. Just because they define a booster loosely doesn't make everyone a booster. Simply because they say fans cannot tweet recruits doesn't mean they can't. It only means that they view it that way. Nothing more.
The NCAA has no right to tell any casual fan what they can do with their life. They cannot dictate how people use a product from another corporate entity like twitter who have their own unique set of rules that are not defined by the NCAA. You suggesting both is ridiculous.
You can be dismissive and flippant, but it doesn't make you any less wrong. Try taking your J.D. out of year ears and use them to listen to people that know better than you.
So in summary:
Me: Here is my opinion that is supported by all these facts by lawyers that specialize in the field that say you are wrong.
you: No I'm not.
good argument counsellor.
I'm saying that, as of this moment, the 1st Amendment isn't implicated because the NCAA isn't the government nor is it considered a state actor (the Supreme Court said as much in the Tarkanian case, though that was for a different issue). All of the cases cited regarding speech involve workplace situations which aren't the same because the NCAA's relationship with its student athletes isn't employer/employee. The big difference that you have a right to work and make a living, but you don't have a right to play college football. That's a privilege. The rules against boosters contacting recruits at all have existed for a while and to my knowledge have not been challenged in court. The NCAA has ordered schools to disassociate with boosters who have broken rules. As far as I know that has never been challenged in court.
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# | Bitter blog - Leaving VT for LSU 'a tough decision' for Jeff Grimes but 'a great opportunity' Great piece. Can't blame a man for wanting to be closer to family, especially w/ health issues. Wishing coach Grimey nothing but my gratitude for his time and for his future success. #beatbama
Nail on the head, krak_t
Over the past couple of weeks, I've come to learn that VT might have the best fanbase in the entire nation.
I mean, we freaked out over an offensive line coach, we do everything in our power to show out for these recruits no matter if they're a 2-star, 3-star, or 4-star, and we closely watch and celebrate any success the players have even after they've graduated and gone to the NFL/are training for it.
Hokie strooooong, y'all. Hokie strong.
The Results are in UVA.... You are *NOT* even being considered.
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# | Bitter blog - Leaving VT for LSU 'a tough decision' for Jeff Grimes but 'a great opportunity' Amen brother Hokie, CFB is a once in a generation HC. I have a feeling we will lament his retirement one day.
Say anything you want about Grimes' decision, putting family first is always a correct answer.
It's about 90% Tech fans, 9% FSU fans, and 1% OSU fans. My guess is he could be trying to see which fanbase will show the most love for him, and Tech has definitely shown the most love over his whole recruiting process.
Ok y'all head it first BDVT called it! Click, clack.
This makes ecstatic yet nervous as heck at the same time.
He's trying to gain followers. I'm 20, I understand. People will do anything for more followers on twitter/instagram.
No, "a MNC" implies singular.
Detail, pay attention to detail.
Wait-we won a MNC!?!?!? =D
YOU!
15-2 so far and some pretty strong showings from some of the freshmen. Hasn't gone exactly how Dresser wanted, but so far it has been a pretty good season. Only a couple more matches then the ACC is our own backyard.
edit: after seeing the tweet below indicating this just to see if the fans can guess his already made decision, i retract my statement
It's amazing how much of a season you can wrap up in 4 minutes and make it seem like so much happened. College football is nothing short of amazing.
For sure. The adidas b-ball team team is on point right now. Also, as long as we're on shoe companies that are on point right now: Saucony. I have bought all the endorphins in the last two cycles. Best spikes for long distance easy. But again. Nike holds all of the attention in the space.
EDIT: Since he already knows what college hes going to and hes doing this for fun I don't have a big deal with it. Just glad he wasn't seriously doing this.
Maybe people should edit their comments about him since he clarified his statement. Just a good idea
It really is frustrating considering that while they have great football stuff, after watching other teams come through Cassell, I'd say Adidas has better stuff for basketball. Nike just has the name that sticks with kids.
But three days ago he said he wasn't answering any more media requests regarding his recruitment. Just wait until the 5th. Then he does this. Not quite sure if he wants the spotlight or not.
Going into conference play all they needed was 5 wins to be WNIT eligible. At the beginning of the season, I said that's right where they be. At this point, I'm trying to be hopefully, but I think they are starting to prove me wrong and just cannot finish games. You could tell with about 11 minutes left against GT that they just kind of gave up. They need something to motivate them, because right now they are just flat. What is worse is that right after the GT game, the GT girls were yelling and fighting with one another. No cohesion and they still won by double digits. The girls need to get it together if they want to salvage anything out of the season.
This thread is one of those topics that just winds up being...
Like the debates over uniforms or whether QBs should play TE.