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That is correct. I didn't want the people in between us to get pissed. They were good sports

Were you the guy that I kept exchanging silent nods with during the game? Lol

I think Miami can take Duke. Even though they didn't show much yesterday, Duke will play them differently on defense so the Canes will do better in the run game than we did. IMH not-so-informed O.

I realize, just wanted to say my piece. Lately I've been avoiding the majority of the user generated content these days because it's mostly the same crap.

Pretty sure if we were getting paid what Stiney was when the alternative was potentially the unemployment line, we'd love the Hokies just as much as Stinespring does.

To be honest, I have no basis to judge Leal. I can't remember ever seeing him play. I'm sure he went in some time during a blow out, but just don't remember. And even then He would have been playing conseratively.

So no, can't see him starting. But I still wouldn't mind him getting some substantial playing time if possible, without being in victory formation to see what he is capable of. One main reason is for next year.

In fact, I'm already thinking that Ford may be starting next year just based on the lack of some Leal development this year.

It is true that the conversation would be different. However, it does mean something, as all VT fumble recoveries were huge. Miami fumbles twice after 40+ returns on special teams, where they would have short field distances to score. VT fumbles twice in the redzone, end up scoring TDs on both possessions. That's a possible 28 point difference. Huge.

hating people who critique what goes on because they love the team shouldn't happen either.

I actually think the TKP community in general has done a fantastic job at criticizing Thomas's play and not Thomas. I think it's pretty rare for a person to get hated on for pointing out that Thomas had a bad game against BC and Duke. Not a lot of people dispute that.

The question of whether Thomas should start despite his incosistent play was the most debated topic the past week. My reason for re-examining the debate was because those who thought that Leal should start were aware of what Thomas was capable of on good weeks, and what he's capable of on bad weeks. I thought it would be interesting to find out if "Leal Starters" still felt that Thomas was too inconsistent to rely on every week.

I live in San Diego. So many people form LA live here. I deal with it daily.

Also, the reverse is ten times more hilarious. Nice work.

So at some point, they used to have fans at the games?

THIS! It's not stunning that VT won. It's stunning how VT won. Total domination of the offense, just enough defense. That is stunning.

Have to agree with you, the forums have had a lot of threads which have been all about whether you like Logan Thomas or not and it has gotten to be really old. There are people who are going to hate Logan one week and love him the next, that is just how it is. For me, his inconsistency on turnovers is a problem. What was it someone said, we're like 14-0 when he hasn't turned the ball over? That's great. I'm going to praise Logan when he has a great game but I don't want to be looked down upon for being not pointing fingers when he doesn't play well. True, he played great in the BC game but a few turnovers cost us.

All in all, Logan hate does NOT need to happen. It is beyond rude and disrespectful. He is our quarterback and he has done a lot for us. But hating people who critique what goes on because they love the team shouldn't happen either. It is an old argument.

Not sure if TKP has the resources, but if TKP could get their hands on a bunch of VT paraphernalia, I'm sure a silent auction would generate a lot of money. Especially, if you team up with a charity like what you're doing with your tailgate.

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