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he said top VA football teams, commanders would destroy everyone else on the list.

Yeah, that's prob the basement price for in-state G5 teams. P4 is going to be higher.

And just checked, that's the fee for scheduling the game, so it's paid whether they play or not.

It would probably cost that to drop VMI too

Much better than last year's is absolutely right. I'm not sure that makes us a good team.

I love it when a set up gets hit. We got down...

There's growth needed for sure, but this team is much better than last year's.

Oh my initial comment was just joking that the Hoos do not qualify as a major program.

Although, if you are really objective based on the last few years, we would be - at best - 5th in the state. JMU and UVA were way better than us. Liberty and ODU were better as well. Don't care that we upset Liberty that one game. No idea how good Richmond was, but if we played them near the end of last season, who knows?

Going forward and on paper for 2026 season, we look a lot better. But based on the last couple of years, yeah we were 5th at best.

Correct which is why we had to hire one of the best recruiters to make it happen.

These losses are squarely on Mike Young as much as I want to blame the free throw shooting. Three late game situations with three terrible game plans and team management.

If we can do that our metrics are fine (we actually went up in kenpom after our loss) the committee selecting teams sees we lost our quad one games but a 1-2 points, we're gonna be fine.

NEO should be nowhere on the floor when you need good defenders or FT shooters in the game. He should have been throwing the ball in on the inbounds since he's 6'9" and his best skill is passing, not having Hammond (one of our best FT shooters) throw it in to Neo. Then to have Neo in the lane when all they could do was an alley oop or tap in was also on Mike young. THEN to have Neo guard the in bounds instead of doubling their quickest and best player for the final shot with Bedford and Hammond or someone quicker was also on Mike young.

This is still a good team but they don't have a coach that can handle end of game management and chess moves. Despite the fact that all three end of game heaves were somewhat bad luck, all the games should have never had a chance to win it on the end game heave if Mike would have managed those end of game situations better. Something's gotta give and either we regress to the mean and the bad luck runs out on those heaves, or mikes gotta reach out to someone for help on how he should be coaching these tight games.

UNC lost to Stanford, which again would have boosted us through the ceiling had we maintained our lead there. Duke barely beat SMU with Boopie out on their home court. All of these teams are beatable with the squad we have if we can finish a damb game. We're going to have to find 7-8 more wins out of the games remaining so it's time for one of those February winning heaters Mike loves to go on to start a little early.

We're 56th in defense efficiency rating per Kenpom which is about 110 spots higher than last year

Didn't we drop 20 points after Stanford loss too?

We're a .500 in-conference team at best (and at worst looking at last year) with him. Most years, that's not gonna get you into the tourney with the level of the ACC nowadays. It's just a question of what are our aspirations in basketball?

Also random thought question - who's the better VT coach: Greenberg or CMY? You can base it off any metrics you want. Results, coaching ability, talent, etc.