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I like the hire. We hired Franklin to lead the program and he is gonna live/die with his decisions. I respect that. Culture matters to us Hokies and we love a good redemption story and at times think differently than others might who have no heart. Nothing tells us that Pry can't be a rock solid DC and have success at a top level. I'll choose to root for this to work for now and if it doesn't will look for Franklin to be swift in moving on and hold all his coaches accountable for results. Good luck Brent!
I think swindled is quite a stretch. Did he provide the desired results? Absolutely not but to swindle implies such a negative connotation and is just mud slinging.
definition of swindle - "use deception to deprive (someone) of money or possessions."
Id say lane kiffin swindled Ole Miss
Bud foster is on the record stating that hiring pry for dc is a great idea
He knew he wasn't up to the task when he applied to be the head coach
How would he have known this? Plenty of coordinators find out that the head coaching job is not the same as the coordinator job. Even ones that go on to successful head coaching careers elsewhere sometime don't excel at the first place they are the HC.
after he swindled tens of millions from the school
This is quite the accusation. Coaching hires don't work out all the time. If VT wasn't ready to pay out the money agreed to in the contract, they should have never signed it in the first place. I'm not a big fan of these deals personally, but if the school agrees to it, then they are bound to pay it.
These are some takes here. Not good ones, but they are takes.
Edit: Going to try to offset some of the downvotes here...its his first two comments yall
his bio states he started out as a hoo fan...cannot be trusted
Is this a Stu Holt burner account?
He knew he wasn't up to the task when he applied to be the head coach, but if by some chance I'm wrong and he wasn't in it for the money, he should have applied somewhere else. For Virginia Tech to be the ones to rehire him after he swindled tens of millions from the school means there is no leadership in Tech's administration. It's not so much Pry's stupidity or Babcock's spinelessness as it is Franklin's audacity. Franklin is now Whit's caretaker. Notice all the props he gave Whit at the introductory press conference. Whit needed that fake endorsement.
Is that really that bad? Just keep heading west. The equipment trucks I could see being an issue but for the players make it one big trip, its not like they are playing school anyway anymore.
at least one other offense of coordinator
I think "Bud Foster's Agent" is arguing that hiring Pry is an offense of coordinator :p
Yea that was sent mid dog walk
Cleaned it up for y'all
Every coach does this. Its kinda how the industry works, you take the guys with you that perform well.
Also welcome to tkp
holy talk-to-text Batman!!
I feel like when a completely new staff joins, We always get this information around summertime. I'm not sure if that's due to the fiscal year ending in June, if that's how long it takes for a FOIA request to be filed, or I'm just imagining this all in my head.
We haven't gotten anything confirmed for any of the hires that I know of. I have the feeling that Franklin is waiting to have everyone on board before an official announcement, so we are likely waiting until after the PSU bowl game. TwoDeep mentioned the possibility of finalizing titles (Co-ordinators, assistants, recruiting roles, etc) causing some slow-down, but I don't think that's getting in the way of announcing who you're hiring, just some of the finer contract details.
Did Franklin even look around at all, or was he hell bent on creating his country club when he knew Whit would allow it?
He interviewed at least one other offense of coordinator who accepted the job at Ole Miss. He allegedly interviewed a handful of defensive coordinators as well, but landed on Pry after interviewing a bunch of defensive players to see if they were OK with it. Matej Sis shared this in boundary corner pod.
Where is the outrage over this hire??
I think most people recognize that the skillset to be a headcoach is completely different than the skill set necessary to be a defensive coordinator. Pry clearly doesn't have the organizational chops to be a head coach. But there's a body of evidence that suggests he's somewhere between a not-that-bad and very-good defensive coordinator.
Every week during the football season I get a Facebook memory of me complaining about the offense.
Did we ever get confirmed contact details for pry as DC? Are we offsetting the football money pool with general fund buyout money? What's the numbers look like?
Should the Virginia Tech Athletic Department be renamed James Franklin Country Club or what?
In Franklin's mind, Virginia Tech was done with Pry when Pry was shown the door. So what exactly changed enough for him to think it would be totally kosher to bring him back?
Is Babcock just a total pushover and promised Franklin way too much? Should Babcock be put out his ass for more recklessness? Did he think the SEC and Big 10 would be impressed by this hire?
How about Pry's mindset? Does he really think Virginia Tech fans want him back? How can he keep pretending? Just let Franklin take the hit? He was compensated generously. Why not walk away after the damage you caused? He is a total failure. We all know it. The players quit on him. They knew he had to go. And the Big 10 was no better than the ACC just a few years ago when Pry was there. They were worse in many ways.
Babcock to Pry at time of firing: "We're going in a different direction. Your results aren't even worth bringing up because they're so bad, and we can't afford to waste another day."
Just a couple months later: "Welcome back! Glad to have you!"
Where is the outrage over this hire?? I don't get it. I could visit any five Division 3 schools and probably come away with a better candidate for DC at Tech. The guy might currently be a waterboy. You can't rule him out until interviewed. That's how useless and counterproductive Pry is.
Did Franklin even look around at all, or was he hell bent on creating his country club when he knew Whit would allow it?
I'm sure the ACC, in their infinite wisdom, will schedule the Cal road trip to cause the most havoc in the schedule. Like SMU on Saturday, then Cal on the following Friday night.
I was gonna say, that sounds like a Michigan Man
Perhaps a man of high character like this could find work up the road on the new Michigan staff.
I went to that '16 game too. That was a great game to go to. Primetime W, Hokies offense was great, and both teams had a lot of good players.
I also went to the 2018 game where I froze my ass off and watched Pitt run for a million yards and CornFu kept trotting out QP thinking it was some kind of exotic package that Pitt couldn't figure out.
The trend I've noticed is that it's more fun to go to games when the team is good.
3 games in the last 20 years vs WVU is criminal. Only 9 games vs Tennessee in 130 years is also insane.