OT: 2018-19 UEFA Champions League Thread

UCL group stage draw is set. Some really strong groups that will be very difficuly to qualify from, some groups where the fight for second will be very tough, and one group where you might as well flip a bunch of coins like I did to make predictions. You can probably guess which one. My picks below in bold.

Group A: Atletico Madrid, Borussia Dortmund, Monaco, Brugge

Group B: Barcelona, Tottenham, PSV Eindhoven, Inter

Group C: Paris Saint-Germain, Napoli, Liverpool, Red Star Belgrade

Group D: Lokomotiv Moscow, Porto, Schalke, Galatasaray

Group E: Bayern Munich, Benfica, Ajax, AEK Athens

Group F: Manchester City, Shakhtar Donetsk, Lyon, Hoffenheim

Group G: Real Madrid, Roma, CSKA Moscow, Viktoria Plzen

Group H: Juventus, Manchester United, Valencia, Young Boys

Update 12/17/18: All of my picks to go through to the knockout rounds were correct. This is the first time ever I didn't get rekt by a Galatasaray or a APEOL Nicosia

The round-of-sixteen is set as follows (my picks in bold):

Schalke v Manchester City
Atletico Madrid v Juventus
Manchester United v Paris St-Germain
Tottenham v Borussia Dortmund
Lyon v Barcelona
Roma v Porto
Ajax v Real Madrid
Liverpool v Bayern Munich

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Group D seems to be a joke honestly; LFC got a tough draw, in spite of the draw:

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"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Will be interesting to see Napoli under an accomplished manager like Ancelotti. Should make for some entertaining group stage matches though.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Atletico/monaco (not sold on dortmund)
Barca and Tottenham
PSG and Liverpool (FFS if city get liverpool in the knockouts again...)
Schalke and Porto
Bayern and bleh
Manchester city and Shakhtar
Real and Roma
Juventus and depending on the manager situation possibly valencia

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

Much better than last year's draw for Real Madrid, we got a group of death last year. Liverpool got a tough draw this time.

H and C are real tough. B is maybe going to be tough, depends on whether Inter is really ready for CL football.

Group A: Atletico Madrid, Borussia Dortmund, Monaco, Brugge

Group B: Barcelona, Tottenham, PSV Eindhoven, Inter

Group C: Paris Saint-Germain, Napoli, Liverpool, Red Star Belgrade

Group D: Lokomotiv Moscow, Porto,Schalke, Galatasaray

Group E: Bayern Munich, Benfica, Ajax, AEK Athens

Group F: Manchester City, Shakhtar Donetsk, Lyon, Hoffenheim

Group G: Real Madrid, Roma, CSKA Moscow, Viktoria Plzen

Group H: Juventus, Manchester United, Valencia, Young Boys

United should be able to make it through, but I just don't buy us doing it.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Liverpool got the tough draw as most thought they might being in pot 3 is always dangerous. Tottenham could have a tricky group stage as well if inter ever sort themselves out which is possible but thus far theyve been awful. United actually could be out in the group stages if mou doesnt get it straight soon valencia can be last years sevilla.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Spurs collapse in the last five minutes to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory against Inter due to a spectacular goal by Mauro Icardi

Meanwhile, Barcelona have a man sent off at 3-0 and still score another to make it 4-0 against PSV. Perhaps they should play with 10 men to make it more fair.

Liverpool score in injury time to beat PSG 3-2 in a scintillating game. What a start to this years competition.

I could be overly optimistic after that first match Kop, but I honestly think we have what it takes to go the distance. The Gegenpress sucked the life out of Neymar, I honestly asked myself at one point if he had been substituted for someone else. I'm trying my best to temper my expectations for this campaign, but with each win it's becoming harder to contain my excitement. "We're never going to stop/From Paris down to Turkey..." #Allez

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Dont get me wrong, yall are really good, but let's not act like psg is Barca or something. This is a team that regularly flops on the big stage.

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

I get ya Esh, and I think this upcoming schedule will really show us how good we are. This stretch of games was always going to be difficult. I feel like we will prove to ourselves if we're ready for some silverware or not. Totty, PSG, 2 against Chelsea, Napoli, and then Man City is a gauntlet. So all I'm saying is 2 games in I'm feeling really good about our chances this season.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Yeah if you can get out of that with a good record you're already competing. Certainly off to a good start. Still think the title race is a 2 horse race this year between city and liverpool

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

Completely agree! The ability for MC to still complete even with a major injury like DeBruyne is nuts! Their depth is insane! Looking forward to seeing how that 2 horse race goes, hopefully it's from now until May instead of being over by Christmas break LOL. On a side note, thanks for all the weather updates, we're out west, and it was nice to be in the loop of what's going on back east.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

I wouldn't sleep on Chelsea and think they could make things interesting. All it takes is a head-to-head result among the contenders here or there and then dunking on the teams they should beat.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Personally I think the Blues are a little bit of a paper tiger. I'll eat my words if I'm wrong, but I just feel like they've played average competition. Arsenal and MU aren't anywhere near as competitive as they've been historically, so I just don't see it. Mata is a beast, but I just don't see it. Guess LFC will see with the upcoming 2 matches after Southampton

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Right, but points dropped against Arsenal and Manchester United would have been perfectly explainable with the reasoning below from eshiben. All I'm saying is that Chelsea has a first XI that's incredibly talented and they already have some points banked against top-6 clubs.

I'm not saying that Chelsea are clear favorites or even clear contenders, just that based on the games so far I could see them in the hunt for a while.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

This debate is begging for a devoted EPL thread...I'll create it shortly. Hard to see Chelsea NOT finishing top 4 with the start they've had.

I think they're good, but thin and learning a new system. There will be some growing pains (see peps first year) and some results that just make your jaw drop (see Leicester in that same year)

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

Messi nets the hat trick versus PSV with three beautiful goals in a 4-0 win. Looking forward to this LFC-PSG match.

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

Watching Barca-PSV is like watching a team play an FCS team, it's hardly worth watching unless you hear it's close late in the game. The Eredivisie is such a far cry from where it used to be in regards to European relevance. Some really historic clubs in that league too, but they just didn't catch the right deals of the money influx into European football.

Guess Tottenham is FCS too?

My five week old comment, two weeks before that match even happened...

I'm aware your comment was old. That gif was my reaction to you disparaging PSV "FCS" when they are a solid team, which they showed today by drawing Tottenham. Lozano, for example, is a really good player. Not sure why you had to trash them.

I don't think my comment is trashing them at all. I think it's an honest assessment of what to expect when an Eredivisie team plays one of the biggest, richest, and most talented teams in the world. Perhaps G5 would have been a more accurate comparison given their chances to win, but the resource gap is enormous. I was actually lamenting the fall of the Eredivisie because of how many historically great clubs they have that are now artificially held down by the financial gap.

You're right that Eredivisie is nowhere near as good as it used to be, but a team like PSV is still quality. Fair enough on the G5 comment. I just get annoyed when people imply that a team in Champions League doesn't have a chance. If you're in the CL, you can at least compete with anyone.

Already hate the turner cable coverage of the league I love messi as much as the next guy but why the hell not show Tottenham vs inter. I ain't paying for their b/r live the price is absurd so I guess I'll only watch what's on TNT

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I think I read somewhere they've cut it from 148 games that would be shown on FS1/2, to 48 games. Just sad how much exposure UEFA will be losing, makes you wonder why they went with that contract?

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

I have basic cable (Comcast) and I got two games on TNT yesterday as well as two games on Galavision (en espanol) as well (1pm and 3pm ET kickoffs). Same thing today, so that's 8 games each matchday. So I think that 48 number is accurate over the group stages...now if they do the same thing through each matchday in the knockout stage then I think it'll be close to 75 games, so not 148 like last year but not terrible. There's also always the reddit streams where you can probably watch any match you'd like to see.

Just sucks going from what fox offered to this new platform I don't mind the talk show guys but it feels weird getting talked to by Steve Nash and Stu holden maybe I'm getting old and grouchy I dunno. Also having a single commentator is off for me otherwise it's just a guy talking to himself about a game I guess nbc spoils us with their PL coverage

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

MC will probably still get through, but didn't expect this outcome against Lyon

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

No pep all week, and arteta showed why he doesnt have a management position. We came out flat. Hes clearly intelligent and understands the game given his adjustments but a slow start smells of poor preparation

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

I mean it surely proves that on-field talent still requires good coaching from the sidelines.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Absolutely. The lineup was completely wrong for this game though. Mikel deserves some serious blame

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

Because everyone else is talking about it...

That was a straight up garbage red card to Ronaldo. Its a good thing that Juve went on to win 2-0, because you wouldn't want to see the controversy coming out of a swing because of that kind of call.

In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

Really hope they remove additional game suspensions for that red card, absolutely nowhere close to a red.

Your not allowed to make contact with a player in that manner, regardless of whether it's a tap or a full on blow. He's in the wrong and he let his emotions get the best of him. By rule it's a red card, even if it was a over-the-top decision based on the video angles I've seen. He brushed the back of his head, thus made contact. UEFA is going to back their refs.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

There is no way that red stands. Viewership will be way less if Ronaldo is out.

UEFA will not rescind it, because of who Ronaldo is, they overturn it, the entire world will cry foul and preferential treatment.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

πŸ”₯πŸ‰πŸ”₯ πŸ”΄s #AllezAllezAllez #MarchToMadrid #RedsTillTheGrave

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

good win...but let's wait until (if) we reach the quarterfinals with this #MarchToMadrid business. And yes, I'm very superstitious.

My bad Kop, I watched a video on the origin of the Allez cheer, and got all amped....lol

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Whoever bet 4-0 Dortmund over atleti you need to go buy a lotto ticket, nice to see pulisic is back

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Wildly unexpected for sure, but Atleti has been off form in La Liga alongside Real and Barca so it's not terribly shocking to me they lost but that scoreline was something else.

Lopetegui sacked. Chris, what say you?

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

No clue. Solari is the interim and not sure how long we will let him ride it before we go after someone else. I wasn't stoked about the Conte possibility but it sounds like that has died off for one reason or another. It's been said that he feared he wouldn't be able to have the control of the locker room he prefers, but it's much more likely that we didn't want to pay off his settlement with Chelsea to get him right away.

Purely a results thing? I only really follow continental domestic leagues from 30,000 feet

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

We are doing horribly in La Liga and in the last month had a record long scoring drought. There's some arguments to be made that giving Lopetegui more time could be a positive down the road, but the reality is there is no time for growing pains and learning periods at Real Madrid. They will not sacrifice a season so that maybe we will better in the future. It's not necessarily the right way, but that's how the demands of the club and the fans are.

Speechless..... #ComeOnYouReds #FFS

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Haven't you learned anything the last couple weeks? We aren't allowed to have nice things.

tfw you lose 2-0 to Red Star Belgrade

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Schalke v Manchester City
Atletico Madrid v Juventus
Manchester United v Paris St-Germain
Tottenham v Borussia Dortmund
Lyon v Barcelona
Roma v Porto
Ajax v Real Madrid
Liverpool v Bayern Munich

Knockout round was stacked this year, several good ties. Outside of Porto, Bayern may have actually been the second best draw for my Reds.

It was a good run for us.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

I updated the OP to include knockout rounds as they occur

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

AW, I'm just hoping Bayern is still in ManU like turmoil by the time Feb rolls around, if so, then yeah, I love this draw, if just for the familiarity that Klopp has with the personnel for Bayern.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Go Arsenal! Oh wait...

i hear thursday nights in belarus are lovely in february

After the brutal draws of the last two CL seasons, I'm happy to get Ajax in ro16. Atletico has been streaky this year so far, but I would still say Juve caught a tough first round matchup there. Simeone knows how to get them ready to play knockouts.

Interesting one to watch, and I'm hopeful as a Madridista, but Lyon has shown flashes of serious offense and they might give Barca a tough match or two.

PSG and Brazil's Neymar facing second straight season-ending metatarsal injury

Paris Saint-Germain and Brazil superstar Neymar could have his second consecutive club football season ended by a metatarsal injury after a medical source close to the French champions confirmed that the 26-year-old may well require surgery to fix his latest right foot problem.

Neymar hobbled off in tears during the second half of last week's 2-0 Coupe de France round of 32 win over Strasbourg, and his availability to face Manchester United in the Champions League round of 16 next month has been a hot topic ever since.

According to the source, the former Barcelona man has fractured the same fifth metatarsal in his right foot as last year -- albeit in a different location -- and that it is almost impossible that he will recover in time for the trip to Old Trafford on Feb. 12.

As a PSG fan, I'm struggling for silver linings. Maybe Mbappe/Cavani step up and shock ManU?

I'm a United fan and the veratti injury is the big one here neymars brilliant but I'd say no veratti is gonna be a big miss. But having neymar out makes it so hopefully we can focus on defending mbappe more and hope for the best

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

I'm a little surprised PSG was able to dominate an in-form Man U at Old Trafford without Neymar or Cavani.

Getting Verratti back on the field made a HUGE difference for them.

Looks like Pogba is also out of the next leg. Didn't see the match but people have posted clips...it certainly appears that he went studs up on a guy.

United were totally outclassed today...the gulf between the sides was huge. 2-0 was kind to United.

Easily couldve been 4 or 5

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

If they get a healthy Cavani back they will have more offensive firepower than anyone else. I'm not counting on Neymar at all.

As a fairly new (5 years) fan of PSG, I'm shocked/amused by how much they are hated for being "new money". Also there is some legit racism since they are owned by an Arab nation.

People don't like New Money, especially if it's Foreign New Money. Look at Abramovich at Chel$ki, Sheikh Monsour at Manchester $ity, etc etc etc.

The pride used to be in developing and sustaining a winner, not just in gobbling up all the best talent from smaller sides to then turn around and dominate them. New Money circumvented all of that.

Edit: another thing that people don't mention about New Money is all the flops... look at Monaco, look at Malaga, look at QPR, look at Anzhi, etc etc etc. And China is so far removed that it doesn't matter unless it's your team's player going there.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

It's a lot more complicated than that... PSG and Manchester City in particular catch a lot of heat and hate not because they are owned by Arab owners from two different wealthy states, but that their finances are extremely shadowy and the teams are functionally backed by the sovereign wealth funds of oil nations. They have found very creative ways to funnel ridiculous amounts of funding, well above the amounts that investors are allowed to just push into a club straight out of their own pockets. I'm not saying there isn't a hint of racism, but the primary issues are with the teams essentially being financially backed by the sovereign wealth funds of oil states.

Agree with this completely look at Leipzig in germany as another example most people "hate" it because it doesnt feel like a very fair thing in the sporting world when teams do what PSG and City do but they have the right to do it its just viewed as like taking a shortcut to the top and on top of all it doesnt help when theyre constantly under the FFP lense getting investigated left and right to check that they arent breaking rules.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Tough to watch United get it handed to them at home really disappointed from Herrera and matic in particular thought they allowed veratti and marquinhos to boss the game I can't crap on the cbs for getting beat for pace by mbappe it just happens. Lingard getting injured is a big blow hope it's not a hamstring issue. Thought the ref was shit though too many cards and constantly stopped the game instead of letting it breathe but oh well no pogba for the away leg I'd say United are toast

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

In spite of this result, I feel like United finally is trending in the right direction. Solid base of young, talented players, and Pogba has come alive in a major way without the restrictions of the Mourinho midfield.

Yup this is really all that matters they didn't bring Ole in to be the permanent guy and I think tonight showed he has some learning to do while also showing how far off the squad really is from being where United feel they should be. Hopefully the silly talk slows and they take a serious approach to the next manager and finally freaking appoint a damn head of footballing operations to run the sporting side of things, paging van der Saar pleasseeee

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

The game changed when Lingard and Martial went out with injuries. We had no creativity in PSG's half in the second half. Our guys were struggling to complete key passes in the first half. Could've easily been 2-0 to United at halftime.

Not a huge deal imo though. No one ever thought we could win but we're in 4th in the league so I'd imagine that and an FA Cup run is the goal now.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Yup cant complain about the result it was fair beyond anything else. United needed to be full strength to stand a chance and losing Lingard absolutely killed us his running off the ball is a big part of our counter attack and god bless sweet juan mata but thats not his game and Sanchez looks like a headless chicken.
Time to focus on beating chelsea and finishing in the top four but this team needs a big time revamp by the next manager. We need to sort out right back we got torched there last night by Di Maria and Mbappe and it didnt help herrera was mindlessly chasing everything and young was never gonna be able to handle Di Maria or Mbappe

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Can any defender in the world match Mbappe for pace? He is unreal

My immediate thought is no, like those long balls played out on the break that Mbappe thrived on in the WC and then yesterday had one that gave him a 1 on 1 that was saved well by De Gea, BUT if I had to pick someone it would be Varane.

Luke Shaw is the closet thing United has. But Luke wasn't marking him last night I don't think.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

When Bellerin first started playing, he was far and away the fastest defender I've seen. He's lost a step with injuries and as he put on some muscle, but he's still fast. I don't know if anyone is quite on Mbappe's level, though

Gomis doesn't do himself any favors here in the first play, but Bellerin is easily 25+ yards behind the play when it starts. his acceleration is just nuts.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Van Dijk did during the 3-2 victory over PSG in the group stages. Was clocked at 32.4kmh compared to Mbappe's 32. I've been trying to find a video but I can't locate one that hasn't been removed.

Also VVD went one on one with Traore (Wolverhampton) and outpaced him as well.

is the second one this? fast for sure, but he always had the better line to the ball than Adama Traore did

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Mbappe is substantially faster than 32km/h. That's not exactly a good comparison lol.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Probably but for the entire game that Liverpool won, Mbappe never exceeded 32. All I am saying is that in that game (can't find the video, the one I did find was removed) VVD ran toe to toe with MBappe. I don't doubt that Mbappe is likely the fastest and few could even keep up with him...all I am saying is VVD did it in our game.

Right, so it's not exactly a good comparison lol.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

VVD going toe to toe with Mbappe and muscling him off the ball during our game is not a good comparison? I won't lie, the run Mbappe did against United had my jaw drop and I seriously doubt any CB would keep up with that run without anticipating it (odd that they both played off him so far).

oh and...lol

No because OP asked if anyone could match Mbappe in pace. You used an example where Mbappe topped out at 32km/h when that's not even close to his top speed. That would basically be like me saying I jogged next to Mbappe on the street while he was walking and I outpaced him.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Fair and like I said maybe no one can out pace him. He clocked something like 41 at the world cup. But if you want to match him then you have to be physical against him.

I could not have dreamt a better result for Spurs, esp without Kane and Alli. Tremendous move by Poch to play Vertonghen as a wingback and using the midfield to clamp down Sancho.

VB born, class of '14

Yeah I saw the scoreline updates for this while watching the Real Madrid match and I was wondering what the hell was going on.

I just pray we dont lose Ericksen to yall like we did Modric and Bale πŸ˜₯

VB born, class of '14

I've never understood where Eriksen would fit in our team, we have no lack of attacking midfielders, if anything we need another reliable, consistent source of goals. I've heard that we no longer have interest in him, but that's probably about as reliable as all the BS transfer rumors so who knows.

That "tremendous move" was necessitated by not having any healthy left backs. Great win, though, for Spurs against a BVB side that was somehow more shorthanded. Should be able to coast into QFs

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I mean he could have easily played a back three with Alderwiereld Vertonghen and Sanchez with lamela out wide. But to put Foyth in the back 3 after his misadventures in the PL was some serious trust. Shorthanded but top of Bundesliga Β―\_(ツ)_/Β―

Good luck in the europa league

VB born, class of '14

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Classic spurs fan inferiority complex that you can't even talk about your team winning without making it about Arsenal. 3-0 is a big win and you should cruise to the QFs. Yes, I suppose he easily could have played a winger in defense instead of a defender, but he didn't because he's not dumb and he trusts defenders to defend. Tremendous job.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

he couldve played aurier or KWP at left wing back, as some expected, so saying the decision was made for him is a bit reductionist

I mean you kinda put it as the only reason why Tottenham won is because Dortmund has a couple players hurt

When in doubt. Nap it out

they managed to find a team even more short-handed than they were is all. 3-0 is a huge win that should see them cruise to the QFs.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

quality trolling at this point

How is Dortmund more short-handed Tottenham is missing a bunch of players 2 of them are our best players. No one can make the short handed excuse if Tottenham keeps on winning

When in doubt. Nap it out

I didn't say that Tottenham weren't shorthanded, just that they somehow managed to find the one side even worse off than them yesterday. Poch's XI picked itself and they locked it down after the break once they had a lead. You can only play the team in front of you, 3-0 is a huge win and they should cruise to the QFs because of it. Nothing about this is that hard to understand.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Who was missing for Dortmund

When in doubt. Nap it out

Reus, Weigl, Pisczek, Akanji, Alcacer. Pisczek and Akanji are the right hand side of BvB defense. Reus is the heart of the team and without him they fall flat. The rest is mainly depth that they couldn't call upon.

EDIT: I am just answering your question, I am not trying to take anything away from Spurs victory.

Oooof I hope they get healthy cause I don't Munich to win another title

When in doubt. Nap it out

I'd argue Alcacer is more than depth as he does play in most of BVB's games and is their second leading scorer. But regardless, 3-0 is a great result for Spurs again BVB and they should cruise to the QFs

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

alcacer and reus

that said, spurs were missing easily 3 starters so the idea that BVB were more injured is inaccurate

Kane, Alli, and Dier not in the squad vs Reus, Alcacer, Piszczek, Weigl, and Akanji not in the squad isn't less injured?

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

+rose and davies, so numerically it's actually equal

(yes rose was in the squad but clearly not healthy enough to contribute)

his presence in the squad must have been part of Pochettino's tactical master class

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Love the content that #LFC puts out, top notch:

Our goalkeeper has many talents LOL

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Liverpool-Bayern today, right? That should be a good one.

Man this match is frustrating #LFC so many chances...

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Really enjoyed the 0-0 result in the Barca-Lyon game. If not for two pretty wild saves, one of which was incredible, Barca could have easily lost 2-0 which could have been so huge (Hala Madrid!). I would love nothing more than to see Barca crash out in the Ro16 after getting one of the easier matchups, relatively speaking of course, Lyon is a good team, but far from Barca's level and this would be a huge upset if they can pull off a win in this tie.

Saw a stat that blew my mind, last away champions league goal Suarez scored was in 2015!!!! I think Lyon could pull the upset having fekir back could be huge

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If it's confirmed he will be back for 2nd leg that really is huge.

Said it after their first matchup with city... dont sleep on em. They're a good team that has a good setup for Europe. A lot of city fans pointed to the fact that arteta managed the first game as the issue, and I'm sure it didn't help, but they're just a good team

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

Goodness gracious Ajax!

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It's all Gareth Bale's fault. Said most of RM's fanbase. Probably.

I... don't wanna talk about the last 6 days.

I've seen great success the last five years though, so I don't fault any other fans basking in this... but it has been terrible.

Remember when Sergio Ramos got intentionally booked because he thought the second leg of the Ajax series would be easy?

Such a shame for such a nice guy

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Its blissful how the entire soccer world was so happy last night watching ajax demolish RM, as a united fan I feel for RM fans since Ive been there recently but the whole thing reeked of arrogance with Ramos and he got more than he deserved for his attitude.

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Uh, VAR is supposed to help officials out...right?

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VAR has given A LOT of very questionable to downright bad handball calls. I think the slo-mo is causing some serious perception bias in their ability to judge incidental contact, and how fast the ball is being hit at their bodies from short distances. If nothing else, they need to have a summit about the handball in this new VAR climate, because the rules have always been vague and VERY subjectively applied, but now it's under an even bigger microscope with replay. Distance between the player and the shot is often given subjectively, the intentional part of the rules (which I posted on TKP during the WC last summer) AND the movement of the arm TOWARD the ball are often completely ignored when some of these handballs are given.

Really feel bad for Buffon on this one. Last year a similar thing happened to him against us, but Benatia had no one to blame but himself for giving up that pen with a blatant foul on Vazquez. This year, that handball decision on Kimpembe with his arm in as natural a position as it can be while jumping (straight down but not pinned to the body, nobody jumps like that), and his back was turned to the play, he was not intentionally blocking anything. Kimpembe didn't commit a foul in the box, he had a ball smashed into his elbow from a short distance. That is heartbreaking for he and Buffon.

I'm a Man U fan and thought it was a harsh call (even though I'll take it). I think you are spot on with the slow-mo effecting the perception of the play. As he "loads up" (for lack of a better term) his arm does move away from his body (as is natural when jumping) and towards the ball, so I can see how the slow-mo made it look more like a penalty. I think where the main gripe should come was whether it was a "clear and obvious" error which should have initiated VAR review in the first place. I'm gonna take a page out of Fuente's book and say that like early signing day and the transfer portal, VAR is something that is gonna need to be continuously looked at and improved as it is used more in live situations.

Just saw that IFAB announced a new rule change for hand ball which clarifies the grey area that makes handball so difficult which allows defenders a bit more of a natural body shape which wouldve probably seen this not given.

That all said I thought VAR wasnt allowed to be slo mo and had to be full speed?

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One of the most laughable pens I've ever seen given.

Agreed, I don't even have the level of hatred for ManU like the next Red fan; but I looked at that, and couldn't do anything BUT laugh. There is NO WAY his hand was in an unnatural position. Feel for PSG.

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BvB loses and MU wins. This has not been a good week for me.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YESSSSSS!!!!

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OLES AT THE WHEEL OH HOW GOOD DOES IT FEEL

Would love to watch mourinho watch that game unfold his tears would be delicious

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Controversial penalty awarded to Porto in the other round of 16 match today...looked a penalty but the fouled player wouldn't have reached the ball. Harsh on Roma. We need a VAR on VAR.

I thought that was a little bit of a foul that was embelished( as it would be by anyone) and is gonna be given more times that not

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And then the foul by Porto just now was a penalty! Not even reviewed...guess I dont understand this game anymore.

I definitely thought he clipped his heels. How do you not take another look?!

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Definitely contact and surprised they didn't take a look. If this keeps up they're going to have to get former official commentators in the booth like they do in the NFL...

Was a horrible no look there if youre gonna give the first he shouldve given the second that was a bad miss there but my word the chances Dzeko missed in ET woof you have to finish one of them

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Oh dzeko. I had such a love hate relationship with this man. There were games where he would look phenomenal and stretches where hed just dissapear. My all time example is his stretch at the end of the year when we beat liverpool to the title where he was just a clinical and class striker. This is equally reflected by him literally blocking a David Silva shot that was going in only to try to shoot and miss....he has such high highs...and such low lows and I think his style just make his lows look clumsy and not great

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As a Roma fan, i'm not even gonna bother with blaming the refs, even though you're probably right. We're just not good... The team is a mess

PROBABLY NOT A PENALTY BUT WHO CARES.

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Tech Triumph.

Mourinho is a heavily decorated manager and that can never be taken away from him...but man, it's hard to believe United is the same club as the mess we saw during fall. Just in time for Arsenal to play them on Sunday. Yay....

PSG would love the football world to blame this on the ref but come on against united youth team they shit the bed dont think this is as much Tuchel as it was his players not finishing the job, that said he shouldve gone to cavani sooner I think he couldve been the real problem maker for united. That said Ole deserves the job no question about it.

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Def on the players, Mbappe fluffed a prime opportunity that would have made the pen irrelevant in the 2nd half.

Feel awful for Buffon but that second goal comes down to him as well, PSG simply choked again as.l their history tends to go in the champs league and it's simple as that after the subs United were practically playing their U21 team.

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Buffon had a mare on the 2nd goal for sure.

Now we just need Lyon to knock out Barca with a win or goals scored draw at Camp Nou, and for Juve to overturn the 0-2 against Atleti to complete this chaotic Ro16.

And a Liverpool triumph over Bayern. Granted we were in the final last year--to have the 'regulars' all out in the Ro16 would be insane.

The more I watch games with VAR, the more I dislike it.

That said: PSG getting screwed out of the quarterfinals along with RM getting thumped... *kisses fingers*

How did VAR ruin PSG? Please explain? It correctly ruled out the di Maria chip which would've been given and caught a handball late in the game, it did it's job in this game but got misused in the Porto Roma game instead. PSG bottled it themselves not var

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i never said VAR ruined PSG, you're putting words in my mouth. PSG made their own mistakes to get to that point

but VAR is supposed to be used for "clear and obvious errors"...I wouldn't, and I am sure a large percentage of people wouldn't, define that decision as clear and obvious.

my bigger issue with VAR is that we're getting away from the spirit of the laws of the game. everything looks like a handball in slow motion replays, when the point of the rule is to keep people from deliberately handling the ball. off sides is meant to keep people from cherry-picking/goal hanging, not if someone's knee or big toe is slightly ahead of the defender. so either the laws need to change or due away with VAR, in my opinion

to further clarify: i am not just talking this one game or incident, but Italy, France, Germany etc they constantly have issues.

I'm just paraphrasing you said VAR screwed over PSG when it did its job, you know who cost PSG the tie? How about Mbappe scuffing the golden chance one on one with De Gea, how about Buffon gifting a goal to lukaku? Or try Kimpembe for not trying to go face first at Dalot instead of spinning around wildly to try and stop the challenge. PSG gave united 3 goals and at this stage you cant do that without paying for it simply put. They shouldve given Cavani more time and been better in the final third, you dont want to leave teams in knockout ties like this and they kept United in it, on the game itself United were poor could hardly string a pass together and hardly had a genuine go at PSG yet wont the game 3-1, and thats not the refs nor VARs fault they conceded 3 to a team with hardly any attacks at PSGs goal.

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you:

you know who cost PSG the tie?

me:

PSG made their own mistakes to get to that point

goodness, a few relatively rough years and ManU fans become a defensive bunch. what a world

I'm not trying to start a argument I just dont like people jumping on VAR at every mistake, its not gonna be easy and the refs are learning this on the go. Is VAR perfect no but its getting some calls right and starting to help more than hurt I just dont like seeing the whole idea that VAR ruined PSGs chances here. Didnt mean to come off aggressive to correct myself United didnt deserve to win at all but thanks to the mistakes found a way.

A few years of watching Mou and Van Gaal will do weird things to a man I must admit its been a dark few years and its definitely numbed me in a way so experiencing joy in relation to football results is something im learning to understand again lol

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That handball was a terrible call man. Without var that's not called. I mean yes objectively it never should have been an issue but holy hell that was bad. If I were a psg fan I'd be miffed

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Thats what VAR is there to do though isnt it to see a foul offsides or a handball or something against the rules right? I dont have an issue with the call at all his arms make him bigger in the box allowing him to block a shot with his lower arm not his shoulder by the law VAR did the right things telling him to check the call. Is the handball rule not properly worded? Of course it is they need to help the officials out with it but VAR isnt going to be perfect these calls are still going to come down to the refs interpretation of the laws and I dont have an issue with the refs decision here, if this happens to a united player at the other end it wouldve been called by this ref so I'm not gonna be miffed with the ref at all. If youre PSG youd be I'm sure but they were really poor in the final third against a really under gunned and very inexperienced side.

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"Without VAR that's not called"

agreed...same goes with Porto's winning penalty against Roma and then with only a minute or two left a foul on Roma in Porto's box isn't even reviewed by VAR. Seriously, how does VAR make the game better when it basically gave two teams a win and thus a pass into the quarterfinals?

Roma and PSG should feel aggrieved, but I also get the argument that they should've taken care of their own business during the game so VAR wouldn't have ruined the UCL run.

Agreed on the Roma one you cant look at one incident and not another in that stage of the game, thats the issue with VAR is the ref has to go back and look and sometimes the ego gets in the way of doing the right thing, VAR does good stuff but with humans involved unfortunately human error will remain

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Wasn't VAR supposed to help eliminate human error, though? You'd be hard-pressed to make that argument after yesterday....both ties were decided, in part, by VAR. And, depending on who you're rooting for, it doesn't appear to have made anything better. Without VAR, there's a good chance PSG and Roma are in the quarters.

The way I'd look at it is unless you take the human element out of it there will be errors which will lead to drama and stuff like this. But what VAR is being brought in to do is limit this stuff and in my mind things like this can take time and it will have hiccups along the way as well. But I think UEFA and IFAB and all the football bodies need to reword some of the rules and proper steps to how and when to use VAR so that refs can just wave off things like the roma penalty claim from yesterday like he did. To me FIFA and the legislation need to spend some serious time this off season or hell right now would be fine laying a serious rigid protocol to help give the refs black and white rules on when VAR can be used and in my mind VAR should have the ability to make a ref look at a call I'm not big fans of the refs being able to wave off the VAR input because im afraid an ego inflated ref could make VAR look bad.

One other big thing is the lack of video replay for fans in the stadium, Id like to see FIFA and co help with grants for the smaller clubs to get replay boards and update the stadiums so fans arent left wondering what the hell the ref is looking at which I think could really help relax people on VAR and make the in game experience smoother for all.

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I know no one will agree since I'm a United fan but it was a correct application of the handball rule. Spreading your arms to make your body bigger and in an unnatural position is what UEFA's instruction has been to referees. Even Steven Gerard said it was the correct call.

With that being said, if we were on the opposing end I'd be so pissed. And if any of y'all were on the receiving end you'd say the same as me. Let's not pretend otherwise. I dare someone to tell me they'd feel differently.

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This Arsenal fan agrees with you. Mark Clattenburg agrees as well, saying that he doesn't necessarily agree with the rule itself but that it was applied correctly in this case. Personally I tend to agree with UEFA's definition of the rule. It's a tough break sometimes but if you gain advantage from your hand or arm affecting play, I feel like there should be a call.

Man I miss Clattenburg in the EPL, he was far and away the best official in the league for awhile.

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Exactly and I think that's the point of VAR. No one will call that in real time so it's an advantage that you can give yourself. If VAR stops plays like that then it's doing its job imo.

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Agreed on all counts. I don't how they could change the rule, though? Just like any competition sport if you give leeway to allow for the spirit of the game, players will take full advantage. It's almost like they just need to say, if the ball hits you in the arm, bicep down to finger tip, its gonna get called but man that is just too rough. Heck, suarez was one of the best at poking it towards peoples arms to get the call.

And then if they say only deliberately playing the ball with your hand--that's subjective and every player is going to learn how to play in a way to get away with it.

Agreed one hundred percent the other catch to the rule is when you turn your back in the air its out of control and makes it an easier call at that because he knows the shot is coming regardless if its intentional he makes himself bigger by jumping.

If that was united on the end of it I'd be pissed but wouldnt feel like United got screwed as bad cause lets be frank United did very little to win the game other than poach the gifts they gave us while it was nice to have luck our way itll bite us down the road.

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Feel bad for the europa league teams not only are their teams in the europa league but B/R puts the games behind paywalls which is bull shit and makes it a pain to follow the games. Gotta say im not too thrilled with what Turner cable has done with european football nights

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It was a way better situation with Fox. Either way, it seems like an absolute robbery by TNT & B/R with such a growing market in the US for European football. However, for the growth of European football in America I hate it, because it makes it even harder for people to get involved and start following the sport. This competition in particular is always full of craziness and intensity, and now most of it is behind a paywall even if you have a cable subscription.

Yup just like ESPN putting the whole Serie A behind espn+ its bull shit entirely. B/Rs coverage is a joke as well you dont grow the sport by hiding it away from any way to watch it. I hope most people can not pay the sub fee so in the future B/R will quit this whole pay to watch shit. The one competition that could really be worth watching is no where to be seen unless you pay for the game which is as bad as pay per view.

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I actually like the ESPN+ deal as a Serie A (Roma) fan. For $50 a year, I get to see all 38 of their Serie A games, which is a pretty solid deal. Plus, I get a bunch of other sporting events (college basketball, MLS, etc) included.

B/R live, on the other hand, is a rip off for soccer fans. It's $10 per month (twice ESPN+ !!!) and you only play 1-2 Champions League games per month. You can pay $3 for an individual match, but that's also a bad deal tbh.

I've actually heard glowing reviews like this from just about everyone who fits into one of ESPN+ niche groups such as Serie A, MLS, or G5 football fans.

Yeah, if you are a legit fan of one of those groups, i 100% recommend it. If you're not, it's probably not worth it.

I've used ESPN + in the past for fa cup ties for united through trials and I've used it for ESPN FC podcast as well and can say its nicer than nbcsn gold pass etc but I'd prefer they put a little more content on the regular ESPN channels for serie A big games to try and grow support and such

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Good point...but the constant drone of Alexi Lalas' pointless pontification is something I don't miss

My god I couldnt watch Fox's post or pre game cause of him and taylor twellman makes me cringe. On the contrary NBCSNs coverage is fantastic and I can watch those guys talk all day.

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lalas posted something on twitter in the past couple of days about how the hand ball rule should be simplified to:

"any contact with the arm is a foul"

laugh out loud stupid stuff

The guys one big hot take and zero analysis at all and hes always going wildly out of proportion

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Lalas and donovan are 2 cancers on American soccer. Two opinions I'll take to my grave. They're everything wrong with the sport in our country

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

Not trying to get into an ethics debate or anything but for a player who constantly spends his time trying to decieve the referee isnt it ironic he is so upset about a referee?

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Exactly...there was an "incident" deep into stoppage time where a PSG player dove in the box and Neymar almost ran onto the pitch and was gesticulating at the ref as to why no penalty was called. Absolutely ridiculous.

Hokienator speaking that dam truth.

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There is no ethics debate here

If you are actually hurt bad--I have been once, you just go down and stay down. You don't roll an extra ten times because instinctively you know something is wrong and so you don't want to damage it further. There isn't a rule, to my knowledge, of excessive 'acting', only a rule for diving.

When Liverpool lost to PSG in Paris in the group stages this year, it was clear the team was instructed to go to ground at every opportunity and then crowd the ref when any whistle was blown in favor of liverpool.. It was absolutely disgraceful. So while I don't support United, I absolutely LOVE how PSG was eliminated because it is the perfect karma.

Man I miss the world cup where the entire world was laughing at neymars pansy ass and his antics.

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This dive is called "The Dolphin"

Complete acting job by Neymar and takes away the fact that the Uruguay defender definitely tries to stomp on his foot there.

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Can you blame him though? Wouldve loved to see him go up against an old stoke city team or some guys like roy keane and co my god it would be beautiful the game has no place for neymars bull shit and its a shame cause when he actually plays the game hes world class but his baggage is all he will be known for at this rate.

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If grabbed his foot when he went down I don't think to many people would argue with you here. You know his foot hurt cause it got stomped by he has to defend his acting by continuing to hold his head. I actually felt sad for him when he broke his back because literally no one believed him. I did because that was one of the only times I think I have ever seen him not theatrically dive or roll around. I felt that it had to be serious because he didn't show off.

Can UEFA actually punish a guy who is no longer in one of their competitions? PSG making it back to CL is inevitable, but still.

I'm sure they can fine him since the French league falls under them...but that's an interesting dynamic with the different leagues coming together for the CL. Here if you piss off the NCAA it's your ass because they're the only game in town.

A UEFA ban is in effect even if he were to go back to Brazil...had be banned for x amount of games in any UEFA related competition whether hes in the federation or not. So, the answer is yes they can.

Do they need to though they got knocked out so I'd say oh well but wouldn't be surprised if they went after neymar

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Man Ronaldo gets a lot of flak, but the guy shows up for the big games...

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Juventus get the call that Roma did not....ugh, they got so screwed

correct call for Juve but Roma should've gotten it if that was called. Sorry to the Roma fan on here.

I would argue they got screwed in the third minute with a perfectly good goal getting ruled out for the contact on oblak but oh well ronaldo goes and reminds us all just who he is

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Alright Lyon, now it's your turn to knock our other rival out of the CL and complete the Ro16 of madness.

As for Ronaldo, what a performance, but honestly the craziest thing is that I'm not surprised. I watched him do this for my team so many times that I learned never to doubt him.

I didnt think juve were gonna get through not because of ronaldo but we hadnt seen juve turn it up as of late and I didnt know if they had another gear but last night they put atletico to the sword and if theres on player in the world good at getting on the end of crosses hes it. The guys a beast and atleti were awful as well zero ambition to try and win the tie cant have any complaints.

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All I can say is Ronaldo's performance yesterday coupled with Man City's thrashing has left me in awe. I can only hope that LFC can somehow pull this out against Bayern at the Allianz. Our road record has been atrocious the last year in the CL.

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Oh...but we did...in some style. We scored all the goals!

#ALLEZALLEZALLEZ

What a match, hope we can use this as fuel to go into Fulham and handle business; it's been awhile for us fans to say the Reds are fighting for something both domestically and on the European stage at this stage of the season. Great time to be a supporter. #UpTheReds #HesOurNumberFour

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Don't want to be a buzzkill but just spending time on reddit the fans are so up and so down its crazy. We may go to the final and lose again. We may finish second to man City. But it is imperative that we reds are not disappointed in any way if that happens and here is why. Three years ago we went to the Europa final but finished 8th with 60 point in the EPL. We sold out to go for glory and qualify for champions league. Last year we finished fourth with 75 points and it required a week 38 win to finish fourth. Oh and we finished 25 points off first place man CIty while making a deep run into the UCL. Both season the squad depth was criticized and it was argued that liverpool can't fight on two fronts.

This season, we are 8 games from the conclusion of the EPL season, 1 point of leaders Man City and we are in the final 8 of the UCL. I think it is extremely important to recognize just how big of an improvement this is. Klopp may not have won trophies yet, and he may not win them this year either. But they are coming. When Keita gets fully plugged in, with Ox back, rumors are we are looking at De Ligt and Timo Werner (I am not saying we sign either but how huge would that be?!) Klopp has built an extremely well balanced and deep squad and the trophies will come.

This * 10000000 I remember talking to my friend in Madison 2 years ago in Peps first year that I thought it was gonna be liverpool and city as the heavyweights for the foreseeable future once both coaches got their guys and systems in place. I feel really smart now because 2 years ago we sure as shit didnt look the part

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I heard the rumors about Pep and Juventus. It was interesting that the rumors popped up the same time UEFA announced they are investigation Man City. I don't keep tabs too much when it comes to these things so I was wondering if you had? I never know what to believe online and I know FFP has never been enforced to the degree that most would like to see it...do you see anything coming from this?

I only ask this because I agree that Liverpool and City look to be giants but if Pep leaves or FFP sanctions are levied it might alter that course.

Peps not going anywhere barring us getting a quadruple which I highly doubt happens. He loves the club and hes really close with txiki. I'd be shocked if pep left for Juventus this year. I could see it happen in 3-4 years but not this year

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I'm right there with you VTAE, I think I've been fighting the extreme highs, and the extreme lows. I have to remind myself sometimes that journalist and bloggers aim for clicks & views nowadays, so I have to limit the roller coaster responses as much as I can. It's so hard, but I think what I keep reminding myself is that we've lost ONE TIME to an incredibly talented side this year, and that game could've gone significantly different if it weren't for a few mm's of the ball resting on the line. We've had an incredible season regardless how this plays out. We are within one point of a team that very well could put up 95+ points in back to back seasons which is freaking incredible.

I appreciate the additional perspective and reminder of where we were just 3 years ago too. I certainly need that sobering view every now and then. It hurts so good to be so close to it, and know we could lose it, but I hope that Jurgie sticks around to at least give us one EPL chip. I hope to win this year, but if we don't, all I can say is reinforce the team through summer transfers, and get after another incredible ride next campaign. I'm certainly going to do my best to enjoy this ride, and I hope that ever Red approaches the remainder of this season the same way. Cheers!

On a side note: Who do you want to draw tomorrow for the Quarters? I think my top 3 are 1. Porto 2. Ajax 3. Totty; I just want a round where we don't have to work so hard, we had a tough group stage, and a tough Bayern drawn, I need time to breathe LOL.

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If I had to put them in order:

1. Porto
2. Ajax
3. United
4. Tottenham
5. Barcelona
6. Man City
7. Juventus

Porto and Ajax are easy choices to make, no disrespect meant to them or their supporters. I thnk United have been riding the very typical post-Mourinho joy-ride and now that they have lost reality might start setting in. I fancy our boys would be able to beat them comfortably at home and get the tie away.

Tottenham is tough because as someone so eloquently put it: they can flippity flop their way to the semis. With VAR I am not sure how I buy into that but spurs do worry me a bit. However I feel like their luck is running out a bit and may be hitting a rough patch in which case I would put them tied for 3rd with United.

5. Barcelona because I would love to show Coutinho that he is not missed and that he is a huge reason we are doing so well (funding VVD/alisson). But they are tough--beatable but extremely tough. This is where I think it really goes into 50/50 odds.

6. City is a tough one. We did it last year and we could do it again but this year has a different feel. I think we could realistically tie both games and win or lose on away goals and that is why I would be concerned. It oculd also be a 2-1 win at anfield and a 4-1 loss at the Etihad depending on how city come out of the gates.

7. I don't know why but there is something about this Juventus team that has me putting them in the least desirable to draw position. Italian fans are notoriously rough and we have a current fan still recovering from being stabbed in the head last year against ROma. In addition italian teams, like Juventus are just tough to beat and this Juventus team seems really good.

That's just my 0.02

Manchester City v. Tottenham
Juventus v. Ajax

Liverpool v. Porto
Barcelona v. Manchester United

The winner of Man City v. Tottenham will face the winner of Juventus v. Ajax. The winner of Liverpool v. Porto will face the winner of Barcelona v. Man United.

Dunno if im a fan of knowing the next draw as well. Tough draw for united but hopefully messi forgets his shooting boots one night. I was really hoping for a Juve Barca tie. Would be juicy to get ronaldo vs. messi and for the under card Chiellini and Suarez again

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A couple thoughts here...First is that many think UEFA rigged this quarterfinal because you have what many would argue are the four favorites, Barcelona, City, Juventus, Liverpool all not facing each other. (I am not saying this because I consider my own team a favorite, I am just objectively presenting the mass opinions I have read thus far)

I do like that we know the semi-final match-up because it means one less draw from UEFA and one less chance for them to rig a draw. Not saying they do, but it does eliminate that possibility. It also doesn't remove the fact that a Ronaldo/Messi final is very possible.

I would agree it is a tough draw for United. I almost feel bad for you guys because surely Barca will be more wary of you than PSG was. Still you guys have a strong change now that you are playing better with Ole at the helm

I feel one thousand times better with ole at the wheel than the putz mourinho at the wheel which at least its refreshing to be optimistic I think we have a shot at their back line which hasnt been the best this year issue is our midfield isnt healthy yet which worries me. The first leg is key against barcelona we have to get some goals at home in order to stand a chance we cant go to the camp nou down 2 or more and stand a chance with messi on the other side. I dunno if I buy the UEFA rigging the draws but who knows, I got to thinking would I rather have 2 legs of Juve Barca or a one game final both would be a spectacle but two legs always make for more drama it seems.

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I'm not saying I buy the rigging either but there are conspiracy theorists out there. I am interested to see how the rest of man united's season goes. Ole was definitely benefiting from the post-Mourinho high but there are also enough games left in the season to see the ride come crashing back down. It would be quite exciting to see a Man United/Liverpool derby in the semis

Wow....Porto, waking up to that news (MT) was sublime. I'm no underestimating them by ANY means, you get into the last 8 for a reason, and they looked good against Roma, not to mention they want revenge from last season.

Some other thoughts:
1. I was hoping that Man City would get a tough draw, Totty will be tough if just because of familiarity, but not as tough as a Juve or a Barca would've been.
2. Glad we avoided Man United and Ajax, I feel like Ajax has a run in them, and I wouldn't be surprised if they knock off Juve.
3. Other than having to face the Mancs or Barca in the semi's, if we're lucky to get past Porto, I'm pretty stoked at the draw overall.
4. Wish the second leg was at Anfield.
5. This is the first time in awhile that this competition feels WIDE OPEN.
6. Just feels so good to be playing for two fronts at this stage of the season, what a time to be a supporter.
7. Predictions: I got Ajax over Juve, Man City over Totty, Barca over Mancs, and Liverpool over Porto

Come on you Reds!

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I think Ajax has done great and I think their odds will be better than what the bookies give them...but I think there run is up. As I said above, I don't know what it is about this Juve team but they worry me the most right now. Maybe I am off base but I am happy to not be facing them.

I just feel like Ajax has the youth and talent, and ball movement to challenge a Juve squad that has a lot of age at notable positions, experience yes, but still age.

I don't know if it's the historical point of view with Messi and that front 3, but I wanted to avoid them as long as we could. So I'm thankful to have a round where we face a team that will challenge us for sure, but that doesn't have the quality of Barca (just stating facts, not a slight to Porto). I guess the only fun part about the potential for playing Barca, if we can get past Porto, is the return of the Judas (Cout) and Suarez.

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I think, for sure, I always want the easiest way to advance. But I also want to go toe-to-toe with the big guns and show the players like Coutinho why he should have (although I am happy because he funded VVD/Alisson) stayed. Or show players like De Ligt who seems to be set on Barca that there is another big European giant to consider. I know its fantastical to a degree but I enjoyed the test of Bayern, PSG, Napoli this year...Sevilla, Man City, Roma, Ream Madrid last year.

Klopps teams do seem to be better at the home-and-home rather than the finals or one-game knockout situations...so I would almost prefer the harder teams when there is a sense of forgiveness for a blunder.

That's a really great point, if given the chance, I'd rather play the Mancs, Barca in a home and home, than to have to play them in a one off. At this point the only team I fear is Barca and MAYBE Man City due to familiarity.

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Messi hasn't scored a goal in a CL QF since 2013. 11 consecutive matches. So you might be in luck.

Hold on WHAT??!!

Checked and can confirm, its either good news or it just means hes due to go nuts

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Dream start for Liverpool. Got arguably the most favorable draw and haven't wasted any time exploiting that.

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Should probably be 4-1 at the half...but we'll take it

That Salah miss was gut-wrenching, happy to see Naby contributing though

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

You can't tell me that Son isn't the best player at Tottenham

When in doubt. Nap it out

I need that type of performance when they play in the league!

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I just hope we didn't waste the ONE game City drops a result on the Champions League. Keep em on the ropes Palace, City and United.

I didn't watch the game first hand but what I heard was city was playing rough and putting the boots into quite a few spurs. Its ironic as that is pretty much the opposite of how Guardiola likes to play. Until you realize that Tottenham comes right after the second leg and if City can give a few key players some heavy knocks, it makes that game all the easier. I sincerely sincerely hope that is not true..in fact if anything, I hope this fires up Spurs to throttle them.

To me the next four games for City will be the most decisive. CP, Spurs UCL, Spurs, United.

dude... I get it you're our rival but comon, dont spout off about a team being instructed to hurt another team. We played like shit, probably a lot of it had to do with the fact that bernardo got hurt right before the game and tottenham played a good game. We didn't play our game and lost, and I can accept that but jesus dont act like just because we had an off performance and weren't perfect we were clearly sent out to hurt someone so we could beat them the next 2 times. We dont need to do that. It was a physical game shit happens. I dont hold it against spurs for some of the fouls over the last 2 years, was I pissed at the time? sure but I dont think poch instructed kane, alli, or erikson to hurt our players nor would I even humor that thought. Pep has literally given you no indication that he would ever allow or even encourage this in his career

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

Pretty incredible recovery by Son on the goal. I thought for sure he had fluffed the chance with that poor first touch, but he hustled it out, recovered it, and made a tough shot with power behind it.

Ajax did not look over-matched AT ALL, thoroughly looking forward to seeing how that tie plays out. Barca/ManU was a little underwhelming.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

The Ajax-Juve game was by far more interesting. Ajax weren't overmatched because they are filled with players who will be playing for top sides in next season or two. De Jong, De Ligt, Ziyech, Neres, Tagliafico will all be playing for top table teams in top leagues in the next season or two (some already confirmed like De Jong to Barca). Van de Beek, Veltman, and Schone I'm less certain where their potential lies but they are all good players. You throw in two veterans who played in the PL in Daley Blind and Dusan Tadic and you have a very strong, balanced squad. Their style of play counters well to the Juve style that is far more pragmatic and not as focused on controlling possession and attacking.

I want Tagliafico to stay in red and white and move to North London. Would be an excellent fit for our left flank.

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Absolute gem from Messi. A nutmeg after a turnover, bottom corner past de gea

Edit: then a soft one allowed by de gea with the right. Goodnight

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😬 #DeGea

And then he reminds us why he's so good (granted his face did most the work):

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

...and he just made up for it...with his face, no less

Made up for it but seems to have made up for it a little too late. United started great but not finishing chances is killing us here unfortunately.

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Dain I miss Coutinho, but I certainly love the money he provided to fill out our squad WAY more!

Looks like it'll be either Porto or LFC against Barca', and like the saying goes "To be the man you got to beat the man"

via GIPHY

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

If Messi converted on that bike, I was about to go insane.

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

Ajax in the drivers seat to advance now....who'd a thunk it?

More people than you might think tbh. Their team is stacked with a superb combo of youth with a little experience.

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Ajax with a serious Cinderella run going on. Crazy that the stars aligned for them to have all this young talent together at one time (with some key veterans as well), especially for a team that gets their talent sniped on a yearly basis most years.

Also of note, with Messi's brace today, he snapped a 12 match scoreless streak in the CL quarterfinals. That first shot was nasty, that second one was embarrassing from De Gea.

Ajax aren't in my mind a Cinderella they've thouroughly deserved to go through in both ties so far I mean nobody expected it but when you watch them play it's not like they're playing counter and park bus stuff they're genuinely all over teams and I'm loving it. I have no idea why the hell B/R had the Barca man u game on instead of the Ajax game especially after the first half.

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Being a Cinderella story doesn't mean you didn't deserve to go through. Their play style doesn't play into the Cinderella story, merely that they are team with less monetary means from a smaller league beating teams with substantially more expensive (purchasing power) squads with way bigger payrolls.

As for what TNT chose to broadcast, they don't give a damn about which game is likely to be better. Barca and Man United have two of the biggest fanbases in all of sports, both larger than Juve and Ajax's following. Also on that note, screw them having the rights to the CL. Only broadcasting one game per day and forcing you to buy a streaming service for the other is total horseshit. Way worse than under fox and a total money grab.

Oh I def agree I guess they're more underdog than like say a UMBC vs UVA they have a perfect blend in the squad and shouldn't fear whoever gets out of the Tottenham or city game.

Yup I absolutely despise b/r's coverage it's a scheme and nothing but fuck Turner cable for what they've done. They should either stagger the game times or use one of their other channels for the second game at this point of the competition it's bull shit to only broadcast one game. I'm a die hard United fan but after the first half I didn't need to see the rest but it was all that's on. Plus the pre and post game is garbage too.

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Whoever ends up signing DeLigt this summer is gonna make Ajax very very wealthy, if you thought Van Djik went for a cash cow I don't see him selling for less than well over 100m

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Man City-Spurs game is insane. 2-1 Spurs 10 minutes in with Son netting both away goals.

Edit: 2-2 13 minutes in. What is happening. Spurs still up 3-2 aggregate with two away goals.

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

ITS FUCKING 2-2 WHAT IS GOING ON

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Everyone has scored too early lol. Insane

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This is great now I'm gonna be pissed if we dont get more goals

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crazy crazy start

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3-2 WHAT IS HAPPENING WE HAVE 70 MINUTES TO GO

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3-2 Man City with the lead, 20 minutes in. Aggregate 3-3 spurs with two away goals. This is one of the most ridiculous games I have ever watched.

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

10 minutes without a goal

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My gut says first to 5 aggregate goals wins

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the crazy thing is that there is a scenario where the first team to 5 agg goals doesn't advance if that team is Manchester City and if Tottenham also scores 5 aggregate goals

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Love my spurs but highly doubt they get 2 (more)

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Holy hell. Still so much time left

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Good call on VAR. I think it was waist and waist only.

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

Exhausted. I rage turned off after the offsides sterling goal and thought "so spursy". But what do we day to death? Not today

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Holy shit VAR coming through in a big way man I'd hate to be a fan of one of these teams the way that went

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I'm gutted. Oh so gutted...we blew it in the first leg

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

Damn Esh that was brutal, sorry man!

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Looks I picked the wrong day to play golf...feckin 'ell

That finish. Good God.

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

Crazy ass game. The CL knockouts really are one of the greatest things in all of sports. It's a shame more people (here in America) don't get to enjoy/suffer these matches.

I was rooting for Spurs because I wouldn't be caught dead rooting for a Pep team against anyone but Barca, but I felt absolutely crushed for Sterling. He put on an incredible performance and it wasn't his fault Aguero was slightly off, he did his part to perfection. Call was correct though.

De bruyne too, man weve missed him this year. If only little zinny couldve stayed healthy

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

Yup not like they were bad they were unreal but a bad first leg can be the difference at this stage

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De Bruyne also had a class performance as well, and he played his heart out. It happened so early and the game got so crazy that it was easy to forget, but ultimately Laporte had one of the worst 3-5 minute stretches I can ever remember that resulted in two Spurs goals.

Yeah laporte was at fault for 2 of the goals but hes been so consistent I'm not angry at him at all. More surprised than anything, hes typically mr reliable

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

Is it possible for one league to have 6 teams in the UEFA Champions League? It could happen next year if 1) Spurs win it this year and finish out of the top 4 2) if Arsenal or Chelsea win the Europa League but finish out of the top 4

Slim chance it happens, but it's still amazingly a possibility into late April

Great question! Not the case but a fascinating scenario could still happen. This question came up this weekend actually!

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Gutted....

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Liverpool should have had at least two goals. It could have truly become worst-case scenario if Barca finished either of those counters in stoppage time.

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

Yeah that Salah miss was a clear representation of the difference between Salah and Messi, I love Mo, but they don't belong in the same sentence.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

That whole match felt like FIFA scripting

The degree of difficulty on that free kick is unreal. Top corner from that far out. Genius

Yeah, part of the blame goes to Alisson for not setting up a better wall; however, that kick was jaw-dropping. All you can do is tip your cap, and hope that we can muster some Istanbul level magic at Anfield on Tuesday.

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That free kick was amazing for sure

Oh my...what a start to the second half for Liverpool.

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goodness gracious this is gonna be fun

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WHAT. A. PLAY.

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I'm not sure my heart can take any more of this

That was EPIC...not gonna lie...I sharted when the final whistle blew

YNWA, most amazing game I've ever seen to date as a soccer fan, more importantly as a LFC fan (Didn't see Istanbul live on TV)

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I was watching it at home....lost my voice for 3 days afterwards and I watched it alone

Been saying it all year barca wont very good and without messi lighting it up they were average but man liverpool made them look piss poor. Gotta wonder what Valverdes future after Rome last year now this.

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I think Barca were good enough to score ONE goal, kudos to our back 4 and keeper!

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

The absolute joy of watching Barcelona choke in Europe over, and over, and over again is absolutely fantastic. I feel like a million bucks. What an incredible game from the unexpected heroes in Origi and Wijnaldum. The CL is much damn fun.

Klopp is one of my favorite managers of all time, such passion!

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Neutral here, but I was convinced that Liverpool was in serious trouble coming back without an away goal. What a bottle job by Barcelona with that kind of advantage.

That dude Alba ought to be volunteering to return his wages for the day. Yikes.

Is it a bottle job or extreme heart by a side/supporters? Anfield is magical, you can't deny it, Arsene said as much; I agree with a player like Messi they should've scored an away goal, but you gotta credit the defense and Alison's saves.

Edit/Side note: Crazy stat this year about Barca in the CL this season "...11 games. That's how many matches Barca had gone unbeaten in the Champions League. They scored 26 goals and conceded just six in those matches..."

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Alisson was massive, he should wear that grey kit from now on.

I read somewhere it was a one off kit, because his keeper kits keep matching Barca's; Alisson was massive and Matip was a beast!

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

That's what I'm saying, he played a perfect game, keep this kit in the rotation.

we're wearing this next year...GK kit is a beauty

Is next season the last with NB? I hear rumors that we are working on a record breaking Nike deal.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

New Balance deal runs through next season but NB does have the option of matching any deal. So, this is our kit next year. I like it...reminds me of the early 80s (except for black GK shirts, it was always green back then)

I was planning to get one as soon as I saw it announced and it was already sold out.

I think it's a mixture of both. Barca have a history of playing terribly away from home in Europe, like shockingly terrible record in away legs, and yet it still took an incredible, incredible effort from the attack and the defense to pull off this 4-0 victory.

Barca doesn't just lose 4-0, that kind of thing rarely even happens once a season, usually it doesn't happen at all for a few seasons at a time. It takes a GREAT team playing at a high skill level with a tremendous amount of passion/effort to pull it off. Especially without Salah and Firmino, this has to be the most impressive team performance of the season IMO.

Wasn't intended to be a slight against Liverpool at all, didn't mean it to come off that way.

I guess I treat teams like Barca like Alabama in football. But Barca is probably even bigger in its respective sport. One of the truly global clubs with massive resources and the best player of all time...and they show up to the second leg with a 3-0 advantage and lose 4-0. When they fall on their faces in big games it almost feels like a bottle job by default.

I get what ya mean now. That's why I went into the match with my doubts, having Messi on the pitch, in my mind at least, guaranteed an away goal. The fact that we kept a clean sheet, is probably the biggest example of the heart this club has under Jurgen. No Salah, No Firmino, No Goals, NO WAY, really?!

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Chills!!!!!

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I was singing right along with them in the living room. That was a hell of a team performance (with a makeshift front line), hoping we can finish the deal.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Morning mood:

Man I hope we can finish this off...

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

The reason I love Klopp:

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Game on!!!!!!!!

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GAME (and tie) OVER

EDIT: erm...about that

No chance Spurs pull a Liverpool second half. Ajax might hang 5 on them today.

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Yeah, this did NOT age well...

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it REALLY didn't age well....what a game. bigger comeback than Liverpool? I might have to say yes

this ajax team is tough to root against. final should be a real awesome match to watch

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I wanted to play Tottenham, but Ajax youth and speed is really showing up. What a final it'll be. Would love to bring home silverware, especially if we miss out on the league.

Edit: This comment didn't age well either, Yeesh, what a Semi-Final round...I'm a homer so I'd say LFC's performance was much more impressive, but Totty, put up a hell of a fight!

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Interesting, at least.....

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Never, ever, take a 3-0 lead in the CL

For drama, not much will be able to top these semi-finals. Amazing stuff.

Kop, we are homers, but you think the Spurs comeback was more impressive?

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

At first thought....yes. Both Spuds and us had their top scorer out amongst various injuries, plus it was away. I'm giving the nod to Tottenham.

They played us tough at Anfield in April...I'd rather have played Ajax. Really looking forward to the final, though.

Could be 4 English teams in the two European finals-doubt that's ever happened before (i.e. all 4 teams from one country)

The away certainly adds something to the equation, but I can't help but think we kept Suarez, Coutinho, and more importantly the best soccer player to ever step on a pitch, Messi (IMO) off the score sheet, without 2 of our best strikers. I'd go as far as 1A/1B (Spurs), hella close though. It's going to be a tough match for sure, especially with Kane coming back.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

There is nothing quite like the Champion's League. This competition brings out the best and worst in players, and craziest moments on biggest and brightest stage.

lol COYS

HOLY SHIT WE DID IT COME ON YOU SPURS!!!!!

I have to work with some Spurs and Ajax fans tomorrow I'll grab the popcorn and watch

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Good article to kind of start the discussion of this match-up, granted we have 3 weeks to wait for it:

Let the analysis begin...

I don't know which comeback was better, as I said earlier it can easily be a 1A/1B situation, to come back in 45 minutes away from home is crazy impressive. At half I was like I don't want to play that Ajax team, because young ignorance can carry you places, like a CL title. But then Spurs, made their back line look like swiss cheese in the 2nd half, and I kind of started wanting to play against that. I think it's going to be a really good final, and it will be a similar scoreline to both meetings this season, a 2-1 affair either way.

Another article about who's win was more notable, objective analysis in my opinion

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

lol

*noted liverpool fan posts article saying liverpool win was more notable/memorable* "this article is good!"

another day in tkp soccer world, and this is why we can't have nice things

in all seriousness, the final will be great and i'm glad it's not Real + some other super club

You caught me, I tried to be objective LOL

I honestly looked for other videos/articles that spoke on which win was more impressive. This was the only one I came away with.

The points that they talk about the Spurs win though, I totally agree, and I felt the article was synonymous with how I was thinking shortly after the match. 1A/1B, and they are interchangeable for several reasons. Even the article placed it at a tie. I agree they were both impressive, and I'm glad the Barcas, Bayerns, and RMs are fading.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Yeah I saw this yesterday...I would love to know more. They state security reasons but I have no clue how that would affect what changing room each team has.

Supporters will enter the stadium from the North side and South side, and in order to maintain security, they are placing the dressing rooms on corresponding sides. Seems like an excuse to me, to give last year's runner-up the nicer locker room.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Here we go

VB born, class of '14

Congratulations, Liverpool fans!

THE JOY OF SIX!!!!!!

Klopp took over a Liverpool club that lost 6-1 at Stoke in 2015 and finished barely clear of 7th...and now he's won the UCL. Amazing what a full commitment to a club by everyone involved can result in.

At this point...show me a game where Mou says it's good and I'll show you a game that's not worth watching......does that make sense? Been a long day...cant wait for the "other" football to start...CHAMPIONSx6!

For one, Mourinho is one of the greatest managers of all time and is a tactical genius.

Two, he has been fantastic as a pundit, as has Wenger.

I've been watching the CL since the mid 2000's and this was one of the least exciting Finals I've ever watched. I still enjoyed watching it, and mad kudos to Liverpool. A fitting finish with the biggest trophy in club football for a team who had a great season.

Most finals are not...this was one of them

EDIT: meant to reply to Lozo above...I'm drunk...sue me

Damn I love my reds!

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Klopp with a Salt-N-Pepa reference? I'm gayer for Klopp than ever (no insult intended for ANYONE)...great find, UTAH red

EDIT: not TLC, obviously...man I was really hammered

That game sucked as a neutral neither team quite got going at all both keepers were top shelf

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

I still enjoyed, but it was definitely one of the least exciting CL finals I've watched. Enormous congratulations to Liverpool for winning the CL, and massive respect to both coaches/teams for getting there. The CL knockouts are as ruthless as anything in sports.

Congrats to liverpool absolutely deserved a trophy this season

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

Equally in awe of City this year...tip of the stetson...RESPECT

Props to Ox for reminding them all of the PROPER lyrics (No shade):

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

I'm gonna watch this tomorrow...ALL DAY

EDIT: chills

Next years final is in Istanbul at the Ataturk...I seem to remember a bit of a memorable game the last time it was held there. GET IN!

My manager:

No shade:

Population of Liverpool, per 2011 census: 552,267, guess 52,000 had to keep the city in business πŸ˜‚

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Correction 😬, and to think Everton supporters are disputing the 750 and saying there was on 500k, when they haven't won anything since 94-95 πŸ˜‚

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

For all my LFC supporter peers: Kop/Vtae, etc

Honestly just to hear the historical stories told by Maych's dad, and how his passion to watch live soccer started in the 60s when Real Madrid won the European Cup was awesome. Great stuff, the historical stuff gets really good around the 30th minute if it's a TL;D'L' moment for ya.

Update: my comment got a like from the hosts (fanboy moment)

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

"We've won it 6 ty-yyyy-yyymes in Madrid we've won it 6 times!"

Still on cloud 9, and the songs are still ringing in my ears, 10 days later!

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

At least another 355 days to say we're the Champions of Europe! Never gets old

This will never get old! UNLESS we go back to the finals next year to tie up with AC Milan..

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]