Tavien Feaster Down to Hokies and Cocks

Tavien Feaster provided a recruiting update to The State.

His finalists are Virginia Tech and South Carolina and he seems confident he will graduate. It's a promising update from the Tech perspective.

"I can carry a load for a team," Feaster continued. "If I felt like I couldn't carry the load, I wouldn't have left Clemson. I feel like I'm the best in the country. I feel like given my opportunity, I will be the best in the country."

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Really hope we can land this kid and if we do..take Feaster, pick 2 more back and keep it moving...it seems like we have the depth on the offensive line now to control the line of scrimmage and wear teams down...dont try to fit your scheme into the personnel...take the personnel you have and run your scheme...if you know willis is careless with the ball, run it!!

And no, I'm not Tommy Turbeville..lol

Anyone else been checking for this announcement literally every day?

I google his name every day!

Hopefully we get him. UofSC seems pretty confident that they are gonna get him.

UofSC is pretty confident in most things yet here they are with not many things

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

I've learned that the U of SC fanbase is the easiest to mess with because they are so confident, yet have nothing to really show for it. Other SEC fanbases tear them up on social media.

Would you call them cocky?

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

Like the part in there about being in constant contact with Jafar and not hear from USCe much....we'll see.

(add if applicable) /s

I am just going to read the first 5 words and be happy for this evening!

He certainly likes his poultry.

Turkey > chicken

It's science, kids.

We put the K in Kwality

I'm not superstitious but what is Joe's batting average after these types of posts?

jk

Given our history of being the recruiting teasing stallion, I'm going to go ahead and congratulate the Cocks on landing Feaster.

The thing benefiting us is that Feaster is making a business decision and is truly trying to consider which would give him the best opportunity to showcase his talent, stay healthy, and boost his draft stock. Like he said, he wouldn't leave Clemson otherwise. I'm not overly confident in VT, but it's not a tease. This is a legitimate consideration and I would honestly say we make the most sense given what he is looking for.

Recruit Prosim

Would your rather: A) SEC Schedule (Six teams in the Preseason Top 25, three in the Top 10) + Clemson OOC or B) Easiest schedule in Power 5 football.

Option A gives you more attention in terms of primetime games. If you play well, you pretty much guaranteed to be drafted in the first three rounds. If you play bad, you have a built-in excuse. More injury risk because you're playing against more NFL talent. Probably won't play in SEC title game or a prestigious bowl game.

Option B gives you a lower hurdle to climb to be a "dominant player". Less injury risk. No "insurance" if you don't play well. Be viewed as a "savior" of a program if things go well. Realistic chance to play in a conference title game and/or prestigious bowl.

We'll find out but I wouldn't want to hedge my nfl prospects against Alabama, Clemson, Georgia, and Florida's defenses

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Let's not forget that Option B offers a realistic chance to face Clemson in a much more important game than Option A.

If you're reading the above post and thinking, "is this guy serious?!?," you can safely assume I'm not.

is, is that.... a shred of optimism?

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Believe it or not I am not always a pessimist. I am actually optimistic about this season and plan on taking the over once Bovada puts them up. I just know the season is very important and want us to take appropriate action if there are any hiccups.

I'm also just not a fan of the fan-boy level of loyalty that we have. "In ___ we trust" sounds like a cult.

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Really hoping Feaster is a Cock tease and sticks it in for the good guys!

I was waiting on a phrasing problem here.

Did we offer him insurance?

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

tavien pls

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I just can't get my hopes up. Really hope we get him, but expect him to end up at USCe

Our recruiting has really been Feaster famine lately, so this would be nice.

ME Class of '16
Facts don't care about your feelings

"Feaster Famine" sounds like a great subtitle for the post that will appear when he announces he's going to USCe.

*Joe's head pops up, he then slowly crumples up his current writing piece and starts frantically writing anew*

need LA and BAG to chime in.

Lol, literally was just scrolling through this thread and my wife looks at me like, "what are you doing so intently on your phone?" And I'm just like, "on my VT site, looking if LA or BAG (pronounced phonetically like a plastic bag) said anything.." She was like, "what in the..."

I doubt they know. I don't think anyone knows right now. This ones bottled pretty tight.

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LA was fairly optimistic, but that feels like it was Months Plural ago.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Any relation to:

Months is Trey to Cartoons's Tremaine

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

BAG doesn't seem to exist anymore.

He took a break because people were exhausting him. Some people just can't have nice things.

We could refer to them collectively as LA BAG, like spanglish

after what's-his-face that guy that went to Florida Powell, I don't think anyone big will choose us.

But he'd be a lot cooler if he did.

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

So it's all down to the Cocks and Gobblers for Feaster, huh?

The jokes just write themselves sometimes

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This doesn't suck:

Feaster said Virginia Tech has remained in constant contact and he talked recently with recruiter Jafar Williams.

As for USC, he said he hasn't heard much from the Gamecocks since the recruiting dead period started.

So, reading WAY too into this one single article

1) He likes our O-Line. Which is a huge plus for someone looking to stay healthy and make it to the league
2) He mentions we don't have a feature back so he would come in and immediately be able to prove he's the big dawg
3) USCe hasn't been contacting him since the dead period started but Jafar talks to him almost every day
4) Not mentioned in the article is that he will have good WRs to take the pressure off and arguably the easiest schedule to play against and rack up his numbers

I know that one RB for one year isn't like a fix everything but damn it, we need a recruiting win right now and this shit just makes the most sense for him. Hopefully if he's even half as good as I'm hoping he is he will pump our numbers up on a soft schedule and help more recruits notice us.

One year isn't a long term solution...but one RB that has a great year and gets picked up in the draft sure helps attract others down the line.

JP

The point no one is making is that, sure, after next year he won't be able to help us on the field. But after a good showing and the possibility of playing in the NFL, other talented players might look at VT as a good opportunity.

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I'd like to provide another viewpoint: Tipping Point!

If you look at our roster make-up. (O-line, receivers, and a vastly improved/experienced D) ... GREAT running back play makes EVERYTHING more effective! (Better pass play options/situations, more first downs to keep D fresh)

1 year of showing what this team can do with outstanding running back play could make ALL positions more attractive! This 1 move could be a "Tipping Point" for our program.

*I will not get my hopes unreasonably high*
*I will not get my hopes unreasonably high*
*I will not get my hopes unreasonably high*
*I will not get my hopes unreasonably high*
*I will not get my hopes unreasonably high*
*I will not get my hopes unreasonably high*

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

A Tipping Point you say?? Sounds like its the perfect time to get out the ole twitter box and start "@tting" him!

RocketCityHokie,

Man! Ok, it's an oldie reference, but C'mon! It's true!

Speaking of liking our O-line, it would probably be better with Brock Hoffman in it and we are now about 50 days from the opening game and his status is.........what?????????

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I don't think our weak schedule will be a selling point for him. According to that article, he feels he's the best in the country. Meaning he feels that he can excel against the best competition in the country if he's given an opportunity. I took a look at his stats to back this up.

While not perfect, I went through his stats on ESPN and considered every game he's played in against a team that was ranked in the top 25. Some teams get overrated during the season, and some ranked teams have bad defenses, but this is a good-enough proxy for top competition, and I didn't feel like going back and forth between schedules on ESPN and final season rankings. Feaster played in 12 total games against then-top 25 teams.

  • In 2018: Alabama (1), Notre Dame (3), Boston College (17), NC State (16).
  • In 2017: Alabama (4), Miami (7), South Carolina (24), NC State (20), Virginia Tech (12), Louisville (14), Auburn (13).
  • In 2016: Ohio State (3).

In those games, Feaster had 59 rush attempts, 344 yards, 5.83 yds/carry, and 4 TDs. He also had 11 receptions for 119 yards, 10.81 avg. reception, and 1 Rec TD. In those 12 games against top 25 teams, he averaged just under 5 carries and 1 reception per game.

Keeping the competition level and averages constant, let's say he gets three times as much usage at his destination. If he gets 15 carries and 3 receptions per game next year in 12 games, he could end the year with 180 carries, 1049 yds, 12 TDs, 36 receptions, 389 Rec. yds, and 3 Rec. TDs. That's with extrapolating his averages in big games. He won't be scared of a tough schedule.

Therefore, if this is truly a pure business decision, for us to win the decision will have to come down to: (1) is he a surefire starter, and (2) does he have a good offensive line? I think the answer to both of those questions for VT is yes. If the answers to those two questions for South Carolina are also yes, I'm not going to hold my breath for him to come here just because he'll get to rack up meaningless yards against Rhode Island.

The flip side of that is that he knows that he wouldn't be leaving Clemson if he was the best in the country. It's just one of those things you have to say and tell yourself

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I read it as he was saying he is the best available now in the country.

Being the "best" has to have three conditions:

Ability
Opportunity
Performance

As much ability as he may/may not have, he may just feel he will not get the opportunity at Clemson.

Possibly but I think he knows. Feaster is elite but Etienne is objectively better.

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Clemson also had a damn good O line. Can the same be said for SC? We can argue that we're building one.

If I'm Fuente, pitching him to be our lead back and get used a lot, and he counters with, "but you always rotate." My response is:

1) We haven't had a true huge talent to be that lead back and you win the position when you get here, I'll use you.

2) If you don't believe me, then look at it this way...I seem to struggle to recruit a top RB because of this rotating belief. If you want to run 25 times a game and we're not up/down 21 points in the 4th quarter and you're staying healthy, so be it. You win with getting to showcase your talent. I win by showing future high 4 and 5* players that if they're good enough, I will let them run. We both win because it helps us win games, have fun, and puts us in a good bowl game.

Exactly.

*sets up 75 twitter accounts to tweet this strategy to Fuente daily*

Let's hope he doesn't blow his load (carrying abilities) on the Cocks.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

So you're telling me there's a chance?

I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction:
β€œI served in the United States Navy"

KCCO

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

He's definitely going to Florida.

Or florida state either way the state of florida

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Or Big Dawg U

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

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FWIW, South Carolina returned their 3 of their top 4 running backs from last season. All of them are now seniors.

Bleeding burnt orange and chicago maroon

So I think this is one of, if not the most important recruit of the Fuente era at VT. RB is the one position group on offense that Fuente hasn't drastically improved. Landing not just an immediate contributor, but potentially an immediate star, makes me much more comfortable about this season.

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I would guess that if we go back through every "Some big recruit's decision is coming up" thread on this site for the past three years that there is at least one "X is Fuente's biggest recruit, he's the piece that pushes us over the top" post in each of them.

I mean, Devyn Ford is the only other w]one that comes to mind. Given our current roster, a massive upgrade at QB, RB, or maybe DL are the only places where a single player could have a pretty big impact. I'm hopefully that Willis has improved this offseason, so we don't really need an upgrade there. The delta between McClease/Holston and Feaster/McClease is huge though.

Twitter me

If being the feature back is what's most important to him, i like our chances. Both of us are returning our leading rusher, but i don't think USC's entered the tranfer portal and then reluctantly returned when he realized his market value. Also don't think their head coach has openly discussed how they don't have a running back in the room that can make the one free hitter miss in open space for the big play.

Also part of me hopes this is just a Clemson kid playing a joke on the South Carolina fan base and coaches and he's actually already made up his mind.

15 Straight

I'm going to assume he's leading South Carolina along just so he can give them the ol' hat switch on his decision day.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

this tweet seems to back up that theory

Warning: this post occasionally contains strong language (which may be unsuitable for children), unusual humor (which may be unsuitable for adults), and advanced mathematics (which may be unsuitable for liberal-arts majors)..

uh....might want to check that link

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

dammit. I can't even troll VT fencer successfully

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Shoulda put a good ol' rick roll in there, lol

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Stop that!

You're giving me hope

King Alum of the House Hokie, the First of His Name, Khal of the Turkey Legs, The rightful Heir to the Big Board, the Unbanned, Breaker of Trolls and Father of Gritty

You'll have to do better than that.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Mother fu...

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

he said he hasn't heard much from the Gamecocks since the dead period started.

The last part of that sentence seems to explain the first, right?

@Fightin_Gobbler

Go Hokies

Go Falcons

That was my first take, then thought...should we be in constant contact if it's the dead period?

Are we in the dead period now? I think maybe it means the dead period ended, and he still hasn't heard much from USCe, but I'm not sure

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

I have some memory of the "dead period" being covered not too long ago in another thread and feel like I was surprised to learn that it doesn't mean you can't have any contact but that you can't discuss the recruitment or something really weird like that. I'll try to dig it up and edit this post if I find it.

EDIT: Coaches can't have face-to-face contact but can have contact by social media/phone/mail. Per the NCAA website:

During a dead period a college coach may not have face-to-face contact with college-bound student-athletes or their parents, and may not watch student-athletes compete or visit their high schools. Coaches may write and telephone student-athletes or their parents during a dead period.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

ESPN's Top Plays of the Day are coming from Charlotte Hornets summer league game... Check.
Talking Heads chirping about womens soccer wages for 5 days straight... Check.

Yes. It's dead out there.

Leonard. Duh.

Talking Heads chirping about womens soccer wages for 5 days straight... Check.

Given the proposed bill in congress that would federally defund the 2026 World Cup until equal pay is realized, I doubt this is going away anytime soon

King Alum of the House Hokie, the First of His Name, Khal of the Turkey Legs, The rightful Heir to the Big Board, the Unbanned, Breaker of Trolls and Father of Gritty

The WNBA (insert unknown star here) should lobby congress as well for equal pay for that person and Kwahi Leonard. they both play basketball. It's only fair.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Really? Y'all downvoted THIS??? Come on now.... Leg for you DC

I definitely downvoted it. Last I checked the NBA and WNBA are not federally funded.

Even without that huge difference, athletes get paid to win. The US men...uh...don't.

To be fair, I watched more of the Women's World Cup than the men's last appearance (which as we all know was not the most recent tournament). I'm a Philly sports fan, I only have so much free time to watch losers

USSF isn't federally funded, it's self funded through marketing sponsorships, TV deals and FIFA member financial distributions.

The WNBA (and the NBA for the matter) is a private business and can pay what the market demands. The US Soccer Federation is government supported and you have the US government paying men and women unequal amounts for the exact same job - win a gold medal for the USA - not which generates more tv dollars. That would be debatable too now, at this point, considering the US men didn't make the last World Cup period.

The U.S. Soccer Federation is actually a 501(c)(3) organization, like the NCAA. I guess that explains a lot.

The last men's World Cup brought $6 billion in compared to $170mil for the women's. The women get a higher percentage then the men. It's really just a numbers thing.

But if the men don't go what money do they bring in? πŸ€”

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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We should have our own thread on this and a little long but from my friend who lives and breathes competitive soccer.

"USWNT vs USMNT is a ghost argument for people that watch soccer once every four years...

FIFA dictates prize money globally ie: World Cup. USSF dictates minimum and maximum salaries for the national teams.

Yes, the USWNT have no doubt about it, put US soccer on their backs and showed the nation what winning in the sport looks like at the top level, something the men have never managed, but it's relatively young in league development, television contracts, pro leagues, etc. when compared to the men's side of the game, nationally and globally. Thats how salaries are determined after all. Ad and sponsorship revenue and ticket sales. The ladies have outsold the men here nationally for the last three years in ticket sales only, those arguing for equal pay with the men's team miss a crucial point. Yes, the women are indeed 'No1 in the world'. But events like the World Cup and the Olympics come around every four years. The rest of the time, unlike their male counterparts who play for elite clubs in every country around the world, the ladies are rarely in the limelight or selling out stadiums. The men are consistent cash cows, playing in front of huge crowds once, if not twice, a week.

The 2015 Women's World Cup brought in almost $73million, of which the players got 13 per cent. The 2010 men's World Cup in South Africa made almost $4 billion, of which only nine per cent went to the players. Last year, the men's World Cup in Russia generated over $6 billion total in revenue but the participating teams shared only $400 million of that – less than seven per cent of the overall revenue. Meanwhile, the 2019 Women's World Cup made somewhere in the region of $131million, doling out $30million – well over 20 per cent of collected revenue – to the participating teams."

The national teams sell ads and sponsorship in joint blocks they don't separate men's and women's support.

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So your point is that the men get a lower percentage...because they don't win.

The percentage of revenue argument is meaningless when one side dominates and the other can't qualify

Can we start another f'ing thread on this. This is the most annoying OT discussion I've seen.

Who cares. What does this have to do with the topic of Feaster's recruitment.

This is such a bad take. The USSF chooses what to pay for bonuses independent of the world cup payout, for both men and women. Nothing to do with the revenue from the world cup.

If your argument is revenue, the women brought in more last world cup cycle in part because the men didnt qualify.

The USSF has millions in the bank and could easily afford to set the same bonuses for men and womens for advancing thru the group stages, knockout rounds, winning overall, and so on. It's not that hard.

VB born, class of '14

They could, but why should they set the same bonuses when one side brings in significantly more? Operate in the negative in the WWC?

ME Class of '16
Facts don't care about your feelings

The women brought in more money (last cycle) and the womens jersey is the best selling Nike soccer jersey in America ever.

Whatever FIFA wants to pay the federations I'm absolutely cool with, based on the world cup totals. That's their prerogative.

However what I'm saying is the USSF has plenty of money and power to make what THEY pay to the mens and womens team members equal.

Also because the women are 4x champs and the men cant even qualify

Edit: I will now stop replying as to not saturate this Feaster thread with OT discussion, as I know theres a more applicable one.

VB born, class of '14

How in the hell have you all managed to bring in freaking soccer again?!??! And on a Tavien Feaster thread?!?! Could you all find a Women's soccer forum in France somewhere for this crap?

The cold hard reality is they are working for what they are willing to take to the field and be paid for. If they were being paid too little for what they were doing, they would not participate.

Granted they are squawking so perhaps that will create something which they probably need to do short of refusing to play which I doubt they are willing to do which means ultimately it's mostly a political bluff and they hold just a few minor cards

Maybe they're being patriotic, while at the same time, looking to be treated equally.

What alternative do they have if they want to play for their country?

"Squawking"? I'm sorry but I'm downvoting you for that alone

Maybe a bad choice of words just trying to get the thought out on an obviously sensitive subject for so many.

I'm not saying I agree one way or the other with what I described above I am really just saying how fifa looks at it by my best estimation.

For the record I pull for the ladies when they play and don't care about the guys soccer.

How did We get so off topic lmao.

Feaster isn't coming here, so why not talk about something else

My first reaction to that news......

My second reaction.....

If you don't want to recruit clowns, don't run a clown show.

"I want to punch people from UVA right in the neck." - Colin Cowherd

For the record, I was not trying to start a thing.

Leonard. Duh.

Admittedly SC has recruited OL better than VT, but the rushing defenses he'd be facing at SC would be tougher (on paper)

Taking out a common opponent (UNC) and FCS opponents, SC plays a schedule giving up an average of 1401.5 yards over the last 3 years, whereas VT's opponents have allowed an average of 1695.3 yards over the same 3 year window. Given the common opponent in UNC, VT's opposing defenses are allowing over 2000 rushing yards per season to over 1700 for SC.

Feaster definitely has a better chance to run against VT's opponents than SC's

Using 247 ratings, SCs projected starters average .8823 compared to our. 8467, but their second string average is .8612 while VTs is .8736, making the two deep comparison .8718 for SC, .8602 for VT, although that number changes for the better if Hoffman doesn't get cleared and T Smith is backup center and Hudson slides into the 2 deep at guard.

Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

With our schedule this year, Feaster could conceivably gain 2500 rushing yards over the course of the season. He could break 1k yards before we enter the meat of the ACC schedule.

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And they have also recruited the RB position better as well. Feaster has to be licking his chops for PT looking at our depth chart.

Come to Blacksburg and see what the Hokie Pokie is really all about

I think that our staff is doing a great job recruiting him. I think our staff did a great job hosting him and selling him on VT and his role. I think he was impressed with our fans and facilities. I also think this young man, like so many others we go hard after, wants to play in the SEC when it's all said and done.

I also think this young man, like so many others we go hard after, wants to play in the SEC when it's all said and done.

Obviously someone's priorities can change over time, but he absolutely had the chance to do that coming out of high school and chose not to.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Good point

Honestly I agree with all of this. Most of the logical reasons seem to point to VT (great opportunity to be the feature back, expected to have a solid OL, coaches staying in constant contact) while USCe said, "sure, it'd be nice to have you"... and yet he is still torn between the two. I think we have a chance but it feels like a heart vs. brain situation and I tend to think the heart wins out more often than not in college recruiting situations.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

I tend to think the heart wins out more often than not in college recruiting situations.

For an 18 year old right out of high school, sure . But we're talking about an almost 22 year old soon to be college grad considering which program will give him the best opportunity to up his draft stock.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

I think it's mostly it's his family/friends in SC who are pushing him to switch from Clemson to S. Carolina. If I'm remembering the narrative correctly, he wasn't really thinking about transferring until they started lobbying him. Then once he seriously started considering transferring, he didn't jump right on SC like his family/friends wanted.. he did the smart thing and he took a look around and checked his options and VT made the most of that opportunity and really made a good impression.

Honestly, with our depth chart and our schedule, I think VT is a better situation for his football career, but his family/friends are in S. Carolina. That being said, SC is not that far from Blacksburg and he would be able to visit home pretty easily. Hopefully he picks Tech and has a big season, with 240+carries (at 5ypc that's 1200+ yards) and works his way into being an early-round draft pick.

Feaster has "been there, done that" at every level in College Football. Is there anyone in the portal with more Championship, big game, national spotlight experience? My thought is that friends, family or anything else won't have much effect on his decision.

He's certainly got a much bigger platform if he goes to USCe, no question about that.

But in both scenarios he does get to showcase his skills against his old team in front of a national audience.

Is it basketball season yet?

Who is this?

You might also recognize her as "Subway Rat Woman" from the latest Ghostbusters installment.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

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She's more than qualified enough to merit two links IMO

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Who doesn't love "Lily"!

you must not have read the USWNT FAM thread.....

If you don't want to recruit clowns, don't run a clown show.

"I want to punch people from UVA right in the neck." - Colin Cowherd

She looks like Mona Lisa from Parks and Rec (Jenny Slate) there

King Alum of the House Hokie, the First of His Name, Khal of the Turkey Legs, The rightful Heir to the Big Board, the Unbanned, Breaker of Trolls and Father of Gritty

You mean captain America's ex

Whoa, she looks way better than Jenny slate! Not that Jenny isn't cute either, but you know what I mean

USCe's projected senior starter, Rico Dowdle, is a very decent every down back with nearly 2000 career yards rushing (322/1669/5.2) and receiving (40/316)...way better than any of our returning players. If Feaster goes there and Dowdle stays, he's going to be on the field a good bit. If Dowdle gets bumped and goes for a grad transfer, I wouldn't think twice about taking him at VT.

USCe hasn't been contacting him since the recruiting dead period started? I really hope we don't mess this up. He seems like a smart kid given his businesslike approach to this whole process.

Marshall University student.
Virginia Tech fanatic.

Feaster said Jafar is in regular contact with him and I believe we have been recruiting him extremely hard. Could it not be possible that we don't do anything to mess it up and yet Feaster still goes to USCe?

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

That's where his businesslike approach comes into play. I think that if he was a high schooler making this decision, he might do that. He's going to be a grad transfer though.

Marshall University student.
Virginia Tech fanatic.

You have more faith in the decision making of 22 year olds being substantially better than than of 18 year olds than I do. Tons of NFL players, and regular adults as well, make terrible decisions all the time. Even Beamer and a bunch of well-known coaches got caught up in a Ponzi scheme.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

No. If a recruit doesn't choose us then Fuente clearly screwed something up. I thought we all understood this by now.

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Yes, just ignore the part where USCe hasn't been in contact with him since the dead period started. It would be way different to lose to that than it would be a school that recruits the guy as much as we do.

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So if he chooses USCe does that mean we messed it up by recruiting him too hard?

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It will probably be because Fuente didn't text him 300 times the night before \s

"with all due respect, and remember I’m sayin’ it with all due respect, that idea ain’t worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin gettin’ it on" - Ricky Bobby

Have our coaches said hello to his mother?

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

This could go south in way too many ways...

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Depends on the coach.

We put the K in Kwality

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...it will be because he didnt max out his points on Feaster....its signing day, everyone knows you max out your signing day points on one guy...

The pro-move is to save and reload with different point allocations until you land your top 3-5 targets on signing day. Another move is to strategically get locked out the week of your official visit with the prospect, unlock, and automatically jump into second place just before the visit.

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Go Hokies

Go Falcons

I am on season 9 have played in 9 NC games and won 8. My best recruiting class 15. I'm not sure why the best players keep snubbing me.

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One key move is to only offer guys in the first 5 weeks if you are their top pick so you can land those "insta-commits," that will save you precious points down the road. Also, mid season look which recruits are not being recruited, typically there will be a bunch of 4 stars maybe even a 5 star not getting heavily recruited. Often times you can jump to the top of their list by showing them just a little attention.

Yea I've only been offering top players at position of need and then top 25 guys. Not in that group I don't bother.

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Ah the Saban approach

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

Big dawgs will get after ya.

I only offer top players, no need to worry about positioning need, just move people. A 6'4 220 SS with 95 speed can become a DE pretty easily.

So I've been doing this strategy for a while, but I've never written it out. Sorry if its a bit disjointed.

Preseason
If you haven't already, dump all your coaching points into recruiting. Make full use of the full scouting in the preseason. Save and reset regularly so you don't waste points on busts.

Weeks 1-4
Once the first week starts, sort by interest, then offer 4-5 star kids that have you at #1. If they don't commit instantly, reset. Get a few kids on board, then focus on the players where you're in their top five. Rank them as you see fit, then give everybody the highest amount of points. Sim a week and see if you move up. Figure out how many weeks you need to get to #1. If you can get into their top five in the first 3-4 weeks, don't offer yet If you haven't offered by week 3-4, you'll start falling behind other teams.

Week 1 is often the longest part of all this as the 5% chance of an instant commit can lead to lots of resets. I've taken up to an hour to get like 10 commits. ALWAYS SAVE after anybody commits this way.

Regular Season
Simming and resetting is your friend. Don't be scared to take notes if you want. You can go out a few weeks and see if another team passes you. If they do, you can try to play defense by scheduling their officials for week they would've committed to another school, or you can purposefully try to get "locked out" and then break back in, which jumps you to #2. I've found if you break back in on the same week they're taking an official to your school, you will often get a commit. Don't forget you can only do this 5 times a season. Try to stack as many complementary visits as you can and then hit all the required goals.

Late Season/Post Season
Ideally, you'll land most of the commits you want prior to this, but I always have some that end up going the full season, or I find a few diamonds in the rough along the way and can't land them. Allocate your 15,000 final points for signing day, save, sim, and write down how much you lost or won by for each prospect. Then you can adjust your allocations to max/min each commit. That way you can better allocate your points. Its never the same cushion, but its often similar. Every now and then you'll have a prospect commit to you by like 100 points on one sim, and then commit to another school by like 6,000 points. What the computer does is random, so just keep working through it. This portion often only takes like 10 minutes.

Random Other Tips
Fast (93+) Strong Safety's with a high tackle stat, but poor coverage skills often make incredible MLB's and OLB's after a redshirt season and one season on the bench. Same with moving LB's to DE if they have like 87+ speed and can't cover.
Athletes with high squat numbers often make the best lineman.
Scour the ATH section for diamonds in the rough.

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Go Hokies

Go Falcons

Jesus man. I already play full games now I have to reset a lot. I'm already going spending 2-3 hours to play one week.

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OKAY, FUENTE

;)

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Go Hokies

Go Falcons

I get 500 yards rushing a game.

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Yea but how many backs do you rotate

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2-3

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Well you gotta get your starter 200-250 a game, then your primary backup around the same, then chew up the fourth quarter with your remaining non-redshirt freshman...yeah 500 ypg with 2-3 backs

Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

My best rushing year the Heisman voting was RB1, RB2, FB1, QB1 all for Hokies.

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All this talk of NCAA is really making me want to fire up the PlayStation. Anyone really love the PS2 games? The PS3/XBOX 360 versions visually looked great but I feel like the gameplay was tighter on the PS2. Loved building a custom playbook with lots of run-heavy formations. I think my favorite formation in all of football is the pistol since you can spread the defense in the pass game but the running back is still behind you and can hit the hole fast and get downhill like you were under center. Think I'm going to have to play NCAA some this weekend now.

Depends ont her year, the early Xbox/360 versions were incredibly flawed. The pursuit angles terrible, they were easy to exploit. The PS2 version didnt have that but most of them you could throw it over the top very easily. Get a 6'3" reciever with 95+speed and a QB with 95+ throwing power and close man coverage didnt matter.

NCAA 14 probably has the best LB play so you cant just throw it over the middle as easily. And throwing over the top is harder and your reciever needs separation.

I lol'd

Save and reset regularly
How do you save and reset at the same time? I've been playing NCAA 14 for years and I've never paid much attention to recruiting. Ive won 12 straight national titles so obviously I'm doing something right :-)

I don't know what a Hokie is, but God is one of them!

Guys, I found CJFs TKP account.

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Recruiting isn't a crap shoot. If you recruit well, players will come play for you. If you don't recruit well, they won't. USCe hasn't been in contact with him since the dead period ended. We have. If he still doesn't want to commit to us, there must be something wrong. This 2020 class, whiffing on Powell when we thought we had him, etc. Y'all can keep spinning this every which way, but while we're doing that, GT, UNC, Miami, and even Pitt for that matter are all out there not making excuses for themselves and bringing in respectable classes.

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I hope he chooses VT, rushes for a 1000+ yards, and makes Fuente's offense look like the most attractive thing in the world to blue chip RB recruits all over the country ...

... but if you want to showcase your skills to the NFL and you believe you're the best in the country you probably want to prove yourself against the best competition no?

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Maybe he wants a chance to play in Notre Dame Stadium? Also, if he can help us win in Miami, there is a good chance he'll get to play his former team in Charlotte. I'd love to have him.

Has anyone considered the fan backlash of a player leaving Clemson for USC-e? Does that ever happen? Feels like a Bama to Auburn transfer or a *gasp* VT to uva transfer...

I don't have to take this abuse from you, I've got hundreds of people dying to abuse me.

Has anyone considered the fan backlash of a player leaving Clemson for USC-e? Does that ever happen? Feels like a Bama to Auburn transfer or a *gasp* VT to uva transfer...

Hadn't thought of it that way. I just think it's interesting that he gets to choose between the easiest schedule in the country and the hardest one according to ESPN. Assuming equal usage at each place I would think you'd want to go to the team that has the best chance to win as many games as possible and be ranked as high as possible thus garnering the most positive attention.

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but if you want to showcase your skills to the NFL and you believe you're the best in the country you probably want to prove yourself against the best competition no?

for the NFL, you want big stats and highlights all over ESPN

i think what we're going to find out is how much he wants to stay home, versus going to where he is certain to be the feature back with a legit shot at 1500 yards.

Correct but we have too many unwatchable games from an ESPN highlight perspective this year. There will be zero highlights from Furman, ODU, Rhode Island unless we are ranked in the top 15... There will be no highlights against Wake or BC or UNC or Duke or GT unless its an 80 yard run from scrimmage. the SEC on the other hand, ESPN slobbers over- almost as much as they slobber the NBA.

NFL scouts don't give a shit about ESPN highlights.

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Correct. I was responding to a post up the thread from - in fact "highlights". You are correct, scouts don't care.

The 3rd RB 70th overall pick was a Memphis player , recruited by Fuente's staff. There also were RB's from Boise State and Iowa State drafted in 3rd round. Where you play especially at skill positions doesn't matter as much as the kind of player you are.

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Yep... and yet for the past 30 years the SEC and ACC have the most players drafted. Exceptions don't prove the rule..ever.

Yes that wasn't the point. The point is a good player especially one who has already played P5 football well doesn't need an SEC team to showcase himself to NFL scouts.

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Yeah but it always looks good to have your name near the top of the total yards lists. Let him go apeshit on easy competition and the numbers will drown out all the "but against who?" Counters.

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It definitely didn't stop people from raving over Devin Singletary from FAU for the past two seasons, and sure enough he got drafted.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

I know this, and you are correct, but Marcus Morris- a journeyman nobody- signing a potential free agent deal is not a bigger sports story than the MLB all star game- it's not. Are they trying to have any semblance of integrity? Or is it just about the money?

I don't pay attention to ESPN's coverage well enough to know whether or not they've actually allotted more time to talk about an NBA free agent signing than the MLB All Star game, but my gut tells me they didn't.

Or is it just about the money?

It is all about the money. Even more so since ESPN began been struggling financially under the weight of their broadcast deals.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Get Up! another woke morning show that will fail soon, is supposed to be about "sports". The morning after the all star game, the lead story on Get Up! was Marcus Morris. 99% of this board would not know who he is if he were in their kitchen. You are right, and it is what it is, until they invest in other sports, we are going to get 90% NFL and NBA, 5% SEC football, and 5% "other" from ESPN.

I know who Marcus Morris is! Does that make me a 1%-er, or just a KU Basketball fan?

the show co-hosted by an ex-NBA player had the temerity, the audacity, the unmitigated gall to lead with an NBA story?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

They should be reporting on the largest sports stories, not trying to shape specific ones that benefit them financially.

Edit: lol you really don't like DC πŸ˜‚

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wrt to your edit: i am much fairer to DC than many around here. idk if i've ever downvoted him when i disagree unlike a lot of people around here. much of the validity in what he says gets lost in the tone of its presentation, and usually there is an apparent disconnect between what he thinks he's arguing and the words he's using that doesn't become evident until 3-4 comments back and forth.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I don't pay attention to ESPN's coverage well enough to know whether or not they've actually allotted more time to talk about an NBA free agent signing than the MLB All Star game, but my gut tells me they didn't.

you're right, they didn't!

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

ACCN will change the balance of SEC:ACC coverage by ESPN IMO. Not saying we'll be even, but it won't be as lopsided as recent years.

I don't have to take this abuse from you, I've got hundreds of people dying to abuse me.

The contracts... SEC's real TV deal, and the ACC bullshit deal say otherwise.

They will still be financially motivated to promote the ACC.

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This thread is nicely filling the void that was left once Blackshear committed to UF, I have something new to refresh every 5 minutes.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Interesting seeing what the tiger fans think over at TigerNet in response to this article (a site I find to be often unhinged.) The major competing sentiments seem to be:

- there is goodwill toward him and his time in the program. They wish him well so long as he picks VT.
- He is a quitter who couldn't hack it, and won't get drafted. (I am not kidding. They are seriously saying that he would not get drafted.)
- He is mad at the coaching staff so might go to the gamecocks out of spite.
- CJ Spiller who let him use his retired number should condemn him for leaving.

I have no idea what to make of any of this, but damn it's an interesting cluster of contradiction over there. About half of the fan base over there think highly of him, and the other half seem to think he has nefarious reasons for leaving.

Tigernet is the asshole of the Clemson football internet presence.

Living in the upstate I've seen a lot of contradicting opinions myself. Most of the vitriol I've seen has been online/social media. Most of the people I know personally seem to hope the best for him. They might be more upset if they didn't have Etienne ahead of him, and they really like some of the younger guys like Lyn-J Dixon and are very excited about current 5* commit Demarkus Bowman. Transfers don't hurt as bad when you have the talent pool Clemson is working from.

How many stones do we want to throw here? abarr19's description is pretty much the same way this site talked about Travon McMillan.

Most people on this site supported and loved the Dragon. There were some who felt the need to point out his blocking every time he was mentioned, but that was not the majority voice.

2nd of all, TKP's guidelines alone make this site incapable of being as bad as Tigernet. That said, even the level of football related discourse on here is substantially different than Tigernet.

*McMillion

We put the K in Kwality

Count me in as pro Travon, I'm glad he got a senior year in an office that suits him too.

Yeah, I agree, I just mean that TKP's reaction to Travon's transfer was similar in that you had a grab bag of opinions. Some pleasant, some less so. Also a lot of hard to confirm rumors of him getting on the bad side of others in the program.

Not being someone who spends any time at all at Tigernet I'll take your word that the tone is worse. TKP, as bad as it gets, especially on gameday threads, is pretty civil compared to most of the internet.

Dude was just tired of having to ride a bus around the stadium, dodging rock obstacles, and then having to run down a hill just to get a few hand offs.

At VT, it's just a little stroll to the stadium and some good rock music before toting the rock 20 times a game.

DAVE'S NOT HERE, MAN!

Talked w/ a Clemson donor last night who falls into that first category. But he wasn't hoping Feaster lands at VT because of the rivalry at SC, he thinks that VT is just the better fit for him, will give him a better chance to showcase his abilities, etc....basically, what we've all been saying.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

I think we all are just craving some good recruiting news these days

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Proud Hokie since 2004.

We certainly need SOMETHING, man. Been a rough few months

TAVIEN PLS

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Fuck it I'm calling it he's a Hokie. I'm going to enjoy my unsubstantiated blind optimism till it bucks. Here's to 10-2 and a showdown against his old teammates.

You call that blind optimism? 15-0 baby!

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Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

I have been searching his status several times daily...he would be a game changer for us.

β€œI hope that they’re not going to have big eyes and pee down their legs so to speak,” -- Bud Foster

gobble gobble hasn't added this in yet, so I'll throw it out there...Tavien Feaster anagrams to Veteran Fiesta. So there's that...

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

i may or may not have been holding "Five Anteaters" for a hypothetical potential theoretical (COME ON MAN PLEASE!) commitment thread, but

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Such a shame he's not a lineman. Lots of good fat guy anagrams are possible

Ate fair Steven
Ere fat natives
Fat vine eaters

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― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

oh crap, he's going to University of California, Irvine.

πŸ¦ƒ πŸ¦ƒ πŸ¦ƒ

So he's gonna take us to the fiesta bowl? I will fucking take that

When in doubt. Nap it out

I need some good news so bad....I'm a Thunder fan.

Touchdown Tech!!!

You guys just got Chris Paul!

They're trying to move CP3 before he ever touches a Thunder jersey

Bad news: You know Stephen Adams is next! AND they won't keep Paul!

Good news: with 20 first round draft picks over the next 10 years, the Thunder will be awesome in 2025!!!

the good news is that you robbed the Clippers and Rockets blind, and also own a bunch of future draft assets from Miami. If you even thought Boston got rich at Brooklyn's expense, just wait and see what happens in OKC over the next decade.

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Robbed the Rockets blind? Paul has one of the most undesirable contracts in the NBA, I'm astounded Houston was able to unload him for a bag of chips, much less for a top-10 player in the league. And the Rockets are pretty much always at least decent so the draft picks are not likely to be great (they've had only one pick in the top 10 in the last 17 drafts, and a total of 3 top-10 picks in the last 35 drafts).

Full disclosure I'm a Rockets fan, so I'm biased, but I'm thrilled about this trade. I'd say no team in the league has a more talented 1-2 than Harden and Westbrook, and that includes both LA teams.

The doll's trying to kill me and the toaster's been laughing at me.

I would have guessed you were a Houston fan even before your disclosure just based on your rose colored view of the trade lol

If you think Chris Paul has an undesirable contract, maybe don't take a look at Russ's. They're both on terrible deals, and Russ's is longer and bigger. If you made a list of "worst contracts in the NBA", those two are both definitely in the top 5 with John Wall and Andrew Wiggins.

The Rockets paid a lot in opportunity cost -- two first round picks isn't nothing, and they're two picks that Houston won't have to try and stay good. OKC did amazing business to push those picks out to years where Houston might not be any good and the picks will convey and have value. They had to include them because Paul's contract is so bad, but you forget that "bad contracts" don't mean much to a team that's rebuilding and isn't trying to win. I bet Chris Paul gets traded somewhere before the deadline anyway, and probably before the season starts, effectively turning Russ into even more -- even if it costs them a pick to dump the contract somewhere, they will have effectively gained draft capital to duck one of the worst contracts and initiate a hard rebuild through the draft and trades.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I'm not saying I'm definitely right, we won't know that until next season. And you are obviously an astute NBA fan, so I respect your opinion. But it just seems pretty simple to me. Paul isn't one of the best players in the league (any more), and Westbrook is.

You win in the NBA with great players, not a bunch of good ones. It's been that way since the days of Bill Russell. Players like Westbrook are going to make max money, period. I'd much rather be paying an all-star max money, as opposed to an over-the-hill player like Paul, or an average player like Otto Porter.

It's definitely possible that down the road it may be painful for the Rockets to lose some of those draft picks, but generally speaking, 9th or 14th or 22nd picks in the first round don't make much difference. With no obvious favorite the next few seasons, I'm just happy that the Rockets look like they'll be right in the mix for a title.

The doll's trying to kill me and the toaster's been laughing at me.

stevetheking, You certainly can argue Harden & Westbrook as the best duo. Here's the numbers for the last two years:

LBJ & AD = 54.5, 20.2, 10.8
Kawhi & PG = 51.1, 14.0, 7.1
Harden & Westbrook = 57.5, 16.6, 18.7

I'd believe LeBron and AD make for the best fit. Kawhi & PG are both Small Forwards and Harden & Westbrook are both ball dominate Guards - so their skills overlap more. While LeBron & AD are a wing and a big.

Gimme Kawhi and Paul George over either of those other two duos. More to basketball than pts/reb/ast lines and the clippers duo are gonna wreck on both ends

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I got to witness some excellent RBs, during my undergrad years. It's long past-due, we see that again in The Burg.

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So any Feaster news or is this now a catch all thread?

This is the soccer wage thread, homie.

Amateur superstar and idiot extraordinaire.

You guys hear about Nolley?

We put the K in Kwality

Made academic honor roll

Awesome. We should start a thread on it.

We put the K in Kwality

Why? Seems anything goes on this thread.

So I went out fishing today...........oh wrong thread my bad.

fall camp is not far off. When is he going to declare?

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Speculation is in the next week or two

When do the Hokies and USCe start their summer practice sessions? I would think sometime around Aug. 1, which is only about two weeks away. Seems to me it would be in this dude's best interest to make a decision in the very near future instead of waiting until the week before the respective camps get going with their practices. He's already going to be behind the 8-ball, not being familiar with play terminology, players, coaches, etc.

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Just doing my daily drop by. Nothing yet? I'll swing by later. *Leaves*

This is exactly what I've been doing too. "Oh 50+ unread comments. Something must've happened." **checks** nothing "i'll come back in an hour"

UVA is a great place to take a dump.

some on-topic news:
SC Blog Garnet and Black Attack thinks VT has the edge for Feaster. Nothing earth-shattering, but they think SC's RB room is loaded and VT would be a better situation for Feaster to get on the field.

Nothing earth shattering is right. It is one dude's opinion from an earlier interview/article

Hi guys.

No news I see.

Bye guys.

See ya tomorrow.

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

Can someone tweet him and say "cmon . You don't want to be a cock, feaster!

Music playing!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

tavien pls

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Let's Go

HOKIES

Just your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man, swinging through.

*Takes picture for tomorrow's newspaper*

BRING ME PICTURES OF FEASTER!

Sorry, I'm sole photographer of SpiderReese. It's not glamorous, it doesn't pay well, but it's easy. You are usually just sitting in front of that computer.

Feaster to va tech makes our defense a better team. Defense wasn't bad for most of our first half of games, Pitt not included. Second half we were dead. Feaster toting the rock makes us a better defensive team. It gives time for our guys to get a breath and get some adjustments done by staff.

Feaster would certainly help answer a lot of questions for this team heading into the season. It's crazy to say, but I really feel like the overall ceiling for this team could be drastically impacted by him, helping the offense sustain drives, taking pressure off of Willis, and giving the defense a break as you mention.

I would like to have Feaster, but I happen to think Holston can be the horse this year. He is unproven, but I thought he had a good first year, and then I think injury slowed both his performance and development last year. He looked to be in pretty good shape at he spring game, and he has been in the program for a few years now. There is no doubt Feaster would help, but I like Holston and McClease as a 1-2.

McClease has just been so inconsistent the past few years, and he was just in the transfer portal a few months back, so I have no idea what to expect from him. Holston has flashed a few times but hasn't been able to see much meaningful playing time. I think King is going to be very good, but I don't know if he will be ready to carry the load without a full year in the weight room. Feaster would be a game changer for us to give us that bell cow, 20 carry a game back. Without him, I feel like we are going to resort to an underwhelming RB by committee with no go-to guy.

If it's not Feaster, I'm team Wheatley

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Holston looked pretty good late in the year and coaches were going out of their way to mention him in the spring. They don't seem like a staff that would blow smoke. I expect Holston to take a step forward.

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Whitley is perfect as a jet sweep guy, kinda like Carlis Parker. Dare I say a bubble screen guy too?

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Right now we have a running back room that requires putting in various guys until someone hits... every game. You're not sitting here with a back that we know can have success from game to game.

Feaster is of the talent level that you should be able to expect production from him every game. No guessing needed.

I wanna see a tandem of Feaster + King (with a sprinkle of McClease). Never felt like Holston was cutting the mustard.

UVA is a great place to take a dump.

Feaster to va tech makes our defense a better team. Defense wasn't bad for most of our first half of games

This is the observation of the offseason IMO. And why did the defense look so miserable in the second half? They played fairly well during the first half, the offense did so as well. Then the offense didn't even come out of the locker room until the game was well out of hand. Corny's bunch was atrocious coming out of the locker room game after game. The D was really bad, historically so, but the offense poured fuel on the fire IMO.

Edit: So, I agree. Feaster could help with this by grinding out a few extra first downs here and there.

Is it basketball season yet?

I think the youth of our D limiting the adjustments that could be made in game hurt too, so just a year of learning will help, but having some one giving the D some rest will help too.

I agree. There were so many little pieces of feces that came together to make the perfect $hit storm last year it was almost comical.

Is it basketball season yet?

Man I'm afraid we're all getting our hopes up too much (like always). I'm not saying they know what they're talking about but most of the Clemson fans here in the upstate seem pretty confident that he's headed to USCjr.

At this point though everybody's so invested I feel like this place is going to go into a meltdown if he doesn't come to Blacksburg.

Using /s is for cowards.

i just want an announcement one way or the other by now

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I want an announcement one way, but not the other :)

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well yes, that. i definitely prefer one outcome. but i'd rather the hypothetical meltdown happen sooner rather than later

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If he's not coming to VT, I would rather he never announce...that way we can hold onto hope as long as possible.

We put the K in Kwality

Ah, yes! The Drew Harris strategy!

oh what could be going on here, why did this thread blow u....

Yikes, my bad, everyone

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why is Feaster taking so long to decide?

He's still in school...

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

oh didn't know that, haven't kept up too closely. So he hasn't graduated yet? Do you specifically have to have your degree to transfer after 4 years?

I think so, or why else bother taking summer classes.

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I believe he is in class until he graduates 7/31

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I think he wants to be a grad transfer

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*has* to be a grad transfer

We put the K in Kwality

Portal says otherwise

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Important
Now

So? The portal is not an official status and he can withdraw from it at any time. He can graduate then be used as a grad transfer

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Praise Portal!

Twitter me

PLEASE tell me there is no way for the NCAA to step in and mess up this grad transfer process. Or is it a case of if he chooses USCe its a smooth and fast process, but if he chooses Tech then they are suspicious of his grades in summer school, yadayadaLandersNolleyBrockHoffman. Speaking of which while we count down the limited days to the BC game, Brock Hoffman status anyone?

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If he never commits, then he can't not commit to the Hokies. SchrΓΆdinger's Feaster.

*taps temple*

Good morning Feaster thread.....and see you again tomorrow.

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Whoa. Hey. Are you me?!?

You better use your spider powers to catch that impostor!

Pop my head in the thread. See nobody has commented today. Realize I have become the thing I hate. And I'm out.

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Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

OG Batman!

We put the K in Kwality

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Perfect response!

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

Somebody burn this thread with fire.

"Take care of the little things and the big things will come."

I hope Feaster is reading it and laughing hysterically as it continues and realizing that Hokie fans are a lot of fun overall.

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Ha, Feaster famine. Classic

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The production quality of this is top shelf!

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Lmao

I'm drunk as fuck right now.

Ah, drunk TKP'ing. I 'member those days. It's a fun lil game of waking up and wondering if you put anything embarrassing out there. (Which, FYI, I've never done so...)

You either own up to it, or blame it on your drunk brother.

It's a fun lil game of waking up and wondering if you put anything embarrassingreally stupid out there. (Which, FYI,

I just started drinking vodka. My Florida Room just got finished. I'll check back in a couple of hours and tell everyone to piss off.

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Is a "Florida Room" like a "Hokie Room", except it's where you move your Dorian Finney-Smith, Jalen Hudson and Kerry Blackshear memorabilia?

Druckenmiller the shotgun snap, fakes short, fires it deep into the end zone it is....caught! It is caught for a touchdown by Jermaine Holmes with 47 seconds left!

It's a room that's attached to your house and is often, but not always, climate-controlled. You put your furniture in there which isn't nice enough for your living room or family room but you don't want to just leave it out on the deck/patio. There are a lot of windows so there's a lot of sunlight but you don't have to go outside.

Like Florida.

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paulpetera's version was funnier.

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Leg for Florida Room. My grandparents had one and I had no clue it was a known thing. I honestly just thought they made that term up.

"What kind of person would throw away a perfectly good dog?"

.. Interesting, even after reading his description I thought it was like...a family thing or something. Lol

Ok what day does Clemson classes end? What day do USCe classes start? VT classes?

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I just looked and the last day of Clemson summer session is Aug 5.

July 31 last day of classes, Aug 9th graduation

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When does Fall camp start for us? It sounds like he wouldn't be able to get it Blacksburg until August 5th but thinking getting to the start of camp would be critical even as talented as he is.

FWIW - multiple outlets saying Feaster to Cocks.

Sigh.

Which ones? Link?

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Yeah, the only thing I see is a few day old article speculating about how he might fit in at USC.

Searching Tavien Feaster on Twitter gets me two low follower SCar accounts saying they're landing him yesterday and a cocky Wahoo.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Saw that UVA tweet. That person must spend an hour every morning putting on clown makeup judging by their tweets.

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Google, Reddit and twitter come up with up with nothing.

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Yeah there's certainly not "multiple outlets" reporting it. There's a fair amount of very confident USCe fans on the message boards but others are more reserved in their optimism. I won't be surprised if he goes to USCe but also even if he's crossed paths with Gamecock fans in his home town and told them what they want to hear, that doesn't make it a guarantee.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

I am so fucking sick of this cycle.

I think it's pretty indicative that he is waiting to graduate before announcing. I don't think it would be a big deal to announce he's going to VT. Announcing he's going to Scar while at Clemson would make him fairly unlikeable. I thought we had a chance. We make the most sense. And he is still probably not going to choose us. Very disappointed.

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This, unfortunately, is the most likely situation. If he were going to VT, it's tough to posit why he wouldn't have announced by now. You really have to invent a reason (special pleading). It's not a controversial move as far as I can tell. The most likely scenario is that he's waiting to graduate / leave campus before announcing he's going to Clemson's in-state rival. It also likely explains why he's been down-playing his relationship with USCe in interviews.

Very disappointing indeed.

It's especially disappointing considering he would be the unquestioned starter day 1. Of course the coaches likely said come compete, but no one currently on our roster would be seriously challenging him to be the top guy. Considering the talent we have amassed on the OL, a great surrounding cast of wideouts, TEs, and at QB, and a schedule that should be conducive to winning a lot of games, what more could you want if you wanted a chance to prove yourself as a feature back and rack up some yards? Very, very disappointing.

Even if Feaster did magically decide to transfer to VT, there would still seem to be a major weakness selling the program to the top talent right now. I'd love to know what the plan is to overcome it.

Right now, that plan is to win. If we don't, I don't know what we do. But even winning this year I don't think is going to be enough.

Take our easy (to say the least) schedule, WIN and look good doing it. Don't lose to teams like ODU. Have highly rated players come in, succeed and get drafted. Simple! :-P

invent the reason

I know it's our old slogan but the shoe still fits so let's get a senior design team on it

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Or maybe his graduation isn't quite as sure fire a deal as he first thought and he doesn't want the potential embarrassment of committing only to not be able to grad transfer after all. I mean, grad transferring while having to do second summer session to wrap it all up seems like you're cutting it close anyway. (Disclaimer: no sauces or anything and I'm not disparaging this young man's academics)

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He may still legitimately be undecided. But either way I think our strength of schedule is actually working against us in this case. One of the consistent themes in recruiting interviews is that guys want to be on the field in big time games with big time names, even if their team is not necessarily expected to be competitive in a lot of those games. It's just the draw of the big stage.

USC definitely has a lot to offer from a big game perspective. However, I have to think the main goal here is to show-off for the NFL scouts. Just based on schedule alone I think we have the better opportunity for him to pick-up some gaudy stats this season.

Not to say your point isn't valid, but we're talking about a guy who has two national championship rings and one year of eligibility left. I'd imagine he'd be less concerned about who he's playing and more about how much he's playing.

Fair point

He's got to be decided at this point. If you're moving in a couple of weeks, you gotta know by know where you gonna live.

JP

Time to hit up all the leasing offices in Blacksburg to see if he's signed anywhere. This is the new flight tracker

There is nothing substantial that backs up that he has already chosen SC. There are literally no topics about Feaster on the SC 247 board, and I checked another board and it's just a couple fans wondering when he might announce.

Could easily see him picking USCe soon, but I don't think any decision has been made known to the public, or for that matter anyone, yet.

In Sam Rogers we trust.

Give me a half hour to make some fake accounts and I'll tweet he's going to the Hokies. That was he has to go here. That's how it works right?

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That is it has to right!

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No idea what is going on, but look at it this way: would you rather go to SCar and get your doors blown off by Bama, Georgia, Florida, aTm, but who cares 'cause SEC? Or come to VT, and yeah we have a pretty tame home schedule this year, but we have a couple big away games and enough offensive talent, and with the right RB could make a run and go after Clemson in the ACCCG with a NY6 bowl berth on the line? NFL scouts want to see you getting carries and putting up numbers. I just don't see what I'm missing here with this situation, but it seems pretty obvious what the better choice would be.

Geez, negative Nancy's around here. He's not announcing until after he officially graduates. That's been his plan forever and the answer he's given in every interview. Feel pretty good about the Hokies here.

Take it for what you will, the moderator on the VT rivals site has maintained for some time now that's an almost certainty that he is going to USCe.

Take this however you want, but the new comment count just went up by one.

If you're reading the above post and thinking, "is this guy serious?!?," you can safely assume I'm not.

It makes no difference between us and them for his pro prospects. People thinks it does...it doesn't. He's got three years of tape out there that scouts have seen. Another year at VT or USCe isn't going to make the slightest difference. He's a known quantity at this point to scouts and if he was a legit pro prospect he'd go to the NFL right now.

Not disparaging him at allβ€”he's a very good college back that I'd love to have, but it's ridiculous to suggest that there is a difference in his pro status on this choice. He's going to be a late to non-drafted player. Playing at USCe or VT another year won't change that.

Always choose joy.

I definitely disagree with you on most of this take. Any back that has a chance to put up better tape his last year can improve his stock a decent amount. With a good year Feaster could go from a 6-7/FA pick last year to 2-4th round pick which is often the difference in making a roster. He's been splitting time with Etienne for two years and has gotten a feature role to show off his ability to carry the load for a team.

The only part I agree with slightly is the difference between us and USCe. Either way he will get more coverage than playing behind Etienne, which is a win in his book for his NFL aspirations.

To me, it boils down to what is your goal: constant ESPN/SECN coverage, or improving your draft stock. If the former, go to SCar and have a bumpy season with no hope of playing in a conference championship game and a mediocre bowl. Or the latter at VT, you might not have the constant exposure, but if we pull off big wins at Miami and at ND, and take care of business in conference, we are heading toward a big time December showdown with an Orange Bowl berth on the line against his former team. If I were him, it's more about how much can I show that I am a legit NFL back to scouts on film, and how much am I likely in the conversation late in the year. SCar is higher floor but lower ceiling, VT is lower floor but much higher ceiling.

Y'all are really overthinking this. You act like GMs and scouts only watch national TV games. I guarantee every team has a report on him and it will only minimally change for better or worse.

You don't turn into Adrian Peterson overnight.

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On the well run teams, a scout has looked at pretty much every play from a player the team might be interested in. Teams want to know what they are getting, so more tape shows more. The more playing time Feaster has the better.

This isn't basketball, where teams draft soley on athleticism and potential. The late rounds are filled with guys that have solid techniques that make routine plays over and over again. The Cody Grimms of the world. if you are a round 5-7 player then the more tape helps you.

If he wants to get drafted higher he needs to prove himself against SEC defenses. The SEC has substantial better dline play than any other conference. The NFL scouts I have talked to that work in Ashburn have told me the SEC is held at a higher level than all the conference for a player being NFL ready and evaluated. Just look at the record set by SEC players drafter last year. This is not about exposure and what team has higher ceiling. This is simply that if he goes to SCar and performs he will get a much better evaluation by the NFL scouts than if he plays and shreds up ACC average teams. I imagine the only reason Tech is involved his he definitely wants to try and play against his old team also. Every year you see some SEC RB get drafted that rushed for sub 500 yards and you watch some ACC or Big 12 kid that broke records fall to the late rounds or get a free agent shot. That's how much stock is put into SEC players in the NFL.

To play devils advocate, if SCar gets blown out by the SEC teams aforementioned on their schedule, they likely are behind in games and throw more, leading to less carries than he would have at VT. I know the SEC is the NFL farm conference, but the NFL will find you if they want you. Why not go out with a bang, put up gawdy stats, and likely play your old team while you're at it? At Miami and ND aren't exactly slouches either.

3 of top 5 RB's taken didn't play in SEC hell two of them didn't even play in a P5 conference. It has much more to do with what kind of player you are versus where you play. The best players just happen to usually play in the SEC.

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My counter would be that the first of two ACC RBs that were drafted was 5 (14) Qadree Ollison, two picks before the SEC 5/7 drafted, 5 (16) Jordan Scarlett who rushed for only 800 yards. Qadree was a machine in the ACC and got drafted 5th round. His skill level was deemed equal with a middle of the back SEC running back.

(Not so) fun fact: if you take out the VT game, Ollison averaged 5.5 ypc. Scarlett averaged 5.9 ypc.

Anyway, Ollison was more of a boom-or-bust back than consistently racking up yards. Yes he ran wild against VT, Duke, and Syracuse. However, he struggled against Miami, Notre Dame, UVA, and even Wake Forest (2.9 ypc).

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Two Memphis RB's were taken before the first ACC RB.

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I see we've shifted to "he never would have picked us anyway" mode. I give us 2 days before we're gassing up McClease and saying we never needed Feaster in the first place.

But in the meantime

tavien pls

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Finally somebody with the proper comment.

Tavien
Accepting
VT
Indubitably
Excites
NFL scouts

"McClease lost 12 pounds he's going to be way better than Feaster this season"

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

"I watched the tape and honestly McClease looks much more fluid in his cuts I truly think he's going to have a better year than Feaster"

Question: Does anybody really know at this point?

I got on TKP a few days ago and after some comments he made about having more contact with our coaches, it was a foregone conclusion he was picking VT. Now, today it seems that he's already at South Carolina....

Has anybody with credibility said anything we can bank on? Have ten CB's swung to the cocks???

I'm confused. Would somebody please help me understand what happened???

The feeling was good for VT after he visited, but the chatter since then (reputable or not) has been USCe. That, plus the wait to announce has made people (somewhat reasonably) think that he wants to wait until after he finishes/graduates to declare USCe to avoid bad blood while he is still at Clemson. Of course, it could simply be that he is just waiting until he is certain he will graduate to commit OR that he genuinely hasn't decided for sure yet.

From what I can tell: nothing happened.

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Question: Does anybody really know at this point?

No. It's basically a small scale version of Kawhi Leonard's Free Agency. No one knows a damn thing so they are inserting their own theories and possibilities to fill the time. Any day now I'm expecting helicopter footage of Feaster's car, Twitter photos of him popping up in random convenience stores, and more. Just know one thing, if Stephen A Smith or Chris Broussard say Feaster is going to VT, we're 100% screwed.

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"Question: Does anybody really know at this point?"

He's a talented player with options. Deep down we all know how this ends.

Perhaps Tavien has more class than some players who announce where they're transferring, and rub their former teamates noses in it every chance they get while they're still taking classes. Not naming names, of course.....

Take the shortest route to the ball and arrive in bad humor.

Or maybe he's just focused on classes in addition to having class.

Either way, he's probably to play against Clemson next season, no reason announce it until he actually leaves campus.

If he flashes a cock during his graduation walk, it may upset more than just Clemson fans.

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On vacation not dealing with our shit

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Let's Go

HOKIES

tavien P L S

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Technically, coaches can't comment on unsigned transfers. Since their sources are folks in the department, I'd assume it's iffy about whether or not they can divulge much information. Your best source is going to be someone who has talked to Feaster. Otherwise, it's people speculating. You might get the occasional legitimate leak, but those should be minimal.

So, I just got back from vacation...did I miss anything? Feaster a Hokie yet?

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

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*curb your enthusiasm music intensifies*

Why do I keep coming back to this thread? Dang.

JP

Glutton for pain like the rest of us

What a savings

It's pretty much the only newsworthy thing happening in Hokieland right now.

If you're reading the above post and thinking, "is this guy serious?!?," you can safely assume I'm not.

Checks this morning see 82 new comments. Thinks okay a decision has been made. Nope just lots of speculation.

@hokie_rd

Safe to assume that there'll be a new thread within 5 minutes of him announcing his decision.

I'm willing to bet there is already two announcements prepped and ready to go. So I would say less than a minute after he makes an official announcement.

Everybody, lets just go down to the Winchester, grab a pint, and wait for this whole thing to blow over

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I have no sources but 33 new comments since I checked yesterday.

Well kick me in the nuts, I ain't coming back in here until tomorrow.

Tyrod did it Mikey, Tyrod did it!!

BIG UPDATE WITH SAUCES!!!

Hearing that Tavien is down to two schools and we are still in it!

Probably have a decision in the next couple of weeks!

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