Fall Fishing Thread

OK, over 500 posts and my computer doesn't like it, so we say goodbye to the summer months and head into what a lot of people consider the best time of year for fishing.
With a hurricane looming and many of we coastal types a bit wary, it may be a few days before we know what kind of fishing will be around for us in the salt, but that shouldn't shut down the freshwater stuff.
Great time for smallmouth, and the season should help alleviate some of the crowds of summer on the water, and we haven't heard much from the trout fishing crowd lately, so let's dive into the Fall with our questions, suggestions, tall tales, fish tales and pictures.

I was scheduled to go floundering today, but with the impending weather event, I've decided to take care of stuff that I don't want to worry about in the wind and rain, so I'm off the table until next week. Somebody out there is catching fish, though, so let's hear from you.

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OK, just got an email from one of my oldest and dearest friends, Hokies together since the early 70s. He just finished building a house at Surf City, NC and of course, we're all worried about Dorian. On the brighter side, though, his neighbor told him a fellow anchored up in a boat and fishing mud minnows at the dock next to his caught and released a 38" redfish this week. He had already heard that the fishing along his dock and those around him was good, with black and red drum caught regularly, and he's psyched. We'll be down there in a few weeks and hope to get out. He just got a 21.5' Carolina Skiff with trolling motor, so hopefully we'll get in on some drum action if the 'cane allows us to go. We had a vacation house there last year and were unable to go because of last year's hurricane, so I'm taking a wait and see approach. Sill, good to hear big fish are in the inland areas there. He's pulling his boat off the lift and out of the water and leaving in advance of the weather and our thoughts are with him and all of our friends up and down the coast.

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Going to Carlisle, PA for the weekend to golf for the first time but will be smuggling a 5 wt fly rod with me even though this is supposed to be a fishing free trip we are going to be right next to yellow breeches creek which is supposed to be excellent if you have a trout mind which I dont but hoping some Joe Humphreys videos can help me figure some stuff out.

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Those golf course ponds can have some fine fishes hiding out as well, but it's usually not easy to fish them. My dad used to just skip a couple of holes and catch up with his buds after tossing bass bugs on the course ponds, but he was in good standing with the club and his buds and it was cool. Most courses forbid it, but the biggest crappie I've ever caught was a 2-1/2 lber from the Penn Park golf course in Charlottesville.

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Per the usual, you mentioned something that gets me fired up. Golf courses can kiss my ass when it comes to no fishing. I'll gladly ninja fish all of them. Seeing the destruction of the forests and farms around my home growing up for golf courses was so depressing, not to mention the years of constant construction traffic. Then on top of it the residents complaining about the noise our chickens and peacocks would make. I can understand them not liking a peacock call, but those people did move out to the country and the golf courses themselves would fire up sirens to alert golfers of impending thunderstorms, usually in the middle of the night, waking up people a half mile away. If anyone wants to read a highly entertaining story about me arguing with the golf course over the sirens, I'll gladly send it you.

I walked around one neighborhood course "trespassing" on Christmas and the no fishing signs were everywhere. They drained multiple farm ponds, killed all of those fish, only to rebuild the dam and refill them with dyed blue water. I haven't been back home in fishable weather but if I am, I'm going to go fish those ponds in plain daylight just to annoy the course management.

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Yeah I know why they dont want people to fish them but its kinda dumb and I've always enjoyed fishing them when the time is right. The one right by my familys place has the Conodeguinet river running along it which is great trout fishing as well so not going to be bringing bass bugs but instead some trout flies, though I believe my collection I use for the VA brook trout might be a wee undersized.

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Add in the nitrates and who the hell knows what else they put on all that green grass. The Pete Dye course is fouling the New River, not to mention all the riverside trees they cut down so their golfers could see the river better. Of course, float by there and count the hundreds of golf balls on the bottom and you know what those guys like to do while waiting to tee off. One of the local guides up there, an asshole from jump but I'm with him on this, once was floating by with clients and a foursome sent some balls way to close to his boat. He pulled up on shore and confronted the golfers, got the management involved and had his say. He and I shared the outrage and it was likely the last thing we ever agreed on, but I'd have backed him up in a skinny minnit if I could have.
I've played enough golf to understand the addiction, but I found pretty quickly that a bad day fishing is far better than a good day on the golf course, and it ain't even close.

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They've really trashed that whole stretch down through there. I'm glad someone spoke up. I bet a person could do some water testing and raise a decent stink.

That testing has been done, but with the Radford Arsenal nearby, I think the golf course gets a pass. Don't get me started on the arsenal.

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Totally agree. Everyone gets a pass it seems.

I grew up golfing and fishing so I had to learn how to respect both sides of the spectrum. A good way I always was able to fish the ponds was play a couple rounds at the course, get to know the guys in the pro shop, and ask to fish late afternoons after I would play. I almost never got turned down as long as I respected people passing through.

My three largest bass I have ever caught have come from the 18th hole of the Kingsmill golf course. My fishing buddy worked there as maintenance as a summer job throughout high school so they would let us fish after 6-6:30 in the summer (best time to fish in the dog days anyway imo).

These were about three years ago and the course was closed that day so we were allowed on a little earlier:
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These aren't my largest from that pond, just a quick link to some of the fish I caught there.

All were caught on 10" Zoom Ol' Monster curly tail 'Gooseberry' color.

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Fished the Mattaponi this am. 4 ditch pickles landed. Only saw one bowfin and he would not commit. Conditions were excellent. Very weird day.

Guiding on it again tomorrow and then Thursday I am fishing the Holston in TN, but for smallmouth on the lower section. Friday I drive to Nashville for a bachelor party. Will be fishing for future ex-girlfriends.

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Hey Hokiefly. Went on a float trip on the Shenandoah in early August when my family went to Massanutten for the week. Went out with Kevin Whitfield and Tommy from South River Fly Shop as our guides. They were great guys and a lot of fun to fish with. Told me to tell you hello.

Fishing that day wasn't great although we caught about three good smallies all on poppers (or my brother did). I got stuck with little guys (the 2016 edition according to Tommy) and a few small panfish. About three quarters of the way through our float, storms rolled through the surrounding areas and dirtied up the water shutting the bite completely off.

Still a fantastic day on the water.

Born and raised in Bristol. I really need to go back and do some fishing down there. The North Fork up through Saltville is a "hidden" gem for smallies.

Yep. My biggest smallie came on a tiny torpedo just above the bridge going to Hayters Gap.

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Ha! Small world. I went to high school in Saltville. Hayters Gap is a good spot. There are some 5-6lb plus smallies in there.

Fun fact time here. My friend and oft mentioned fishing guide Chuck Kraft is responsible for the Baby Torpedo. He ran a sporting goods store for a while in Charlottesville, and talked the Heddon rep into having a bigger version of the Tiny Torpedo made for him. He just thought the Tiny was a bit small and was always into bigger fish on the James. The rep talked the factory into making a gross, in one color (I forget which) only and he used them and sold them and wanted to order more. Next thing you know, the Baby Torpedo was rolled out. Once I discovered the Baby, I never bought another Tiny, but the Tiny certainly catches a ton of fish

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As you know, I love to fish, especially with my family. I have fished with some combination of my 6 kids at least 4 times in 2 weeks. We don't always get to the water this frequently, however a combination of holidays, boys trips and new piers at our local fishing hole has given us some windows to wet the hook. Below is a recent trip I took with my 7-year old son. We were invited to travel with some other dads and their kiddos to a private lake owned by an oil company, a 10 acre stocked bass pond sitting in the middle of 700 acres of hunting grounds. We drove through a mile of mud, two locked gates, 500-head of cattle and active oil rigs/pump stations to get to this spot. It was beautiful. We took out a small "pond prowler" boat with a trolling motor to reach the deeper pockets. We pulled up about 10 bass on the day, the largest in our boat being 4 lbs. I both celebrate and regretfully say that we did all this during the BC game. It saddens me to miss the Hokies play, but I was also grateful that I avoided the highs and lows of a disappointing loss, all the while spending time with my boy. Was a win-win for us Texans. We fished from the bank early, then finished the afternoon and evening on the water.


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Good stuff!

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Cobia report: The same guy I went with on Monday caught 14 cobia yesterday sight casting. Two were 50"+. They still seem to be inland of the CBBT which is odd for this time of year. They were sight casting, I'm assuming pitching live eels and bucktails.

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Lack of catching (10" flounder and a blowtoad) this long weekend at Sunset Beach. I had issues with my new kayak which was only part of the issue along with the winds and tides. I had one of the fins on the pedal drive come unthreaded. I lost tension in my rudder so I couldn't steer regularly. I have fixed both of the issues now. The pelican catch 130HD fishes well. I was able to maintain position while dock fishing and fishing oyster beds in creeks. Can stand up easily and paddle while trying to sight fish flooded grass.

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I've fished the pier there but I've never had much luck. Have you been able to catch much there before?

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I had some very moderate success in the past two trips. On my own, I've caught a few undersized flounder, a 17" flounder, spike speckled trout and random assortment of trash fish. I went out with a guide last May to learn more about the area. Caught some undersized flounder, a couple nice black drum, couple small trout, and busted off what we think was a big drum. This was all in the sound area.

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Was just there a few weeks ago and there were a few ladyfish, flounder, and some puffers from the bank.

Fishing Tubbs Inlet or just a good looking stretch of beach? It was blowing out of the East when I was down there and Tubbs was pretty rough water. Looked drummy but didn't have my heaver.

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Mackerel from Australia
mack-australia

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Looks pretty identical to our Spanish.

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Yes. Although it fought more like a trout. This was the only gamefish I even saw besides one giant herring (about 12 pounds-looked just like a ladyfish) and a big giant trevally (50 pounds) that looked like it wanted to try and eat this mackerel when the guy used this one as bait.

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Interesting. Bet it was cool to see the GT. I know that's a bucket list fish for people.

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It buckled my knees. I went to buy a Penn Fathom combo at BCF (their version of a Bass Pro type outdoors super store) because they had the combo priced at $119 american dollars for their father's day sale. But, the local store was out of stock. If I had hooked that fish reeling in the mackerel, I think it would have been a quick tragedy. All I had was a Tidemaster 10-20lb fast action travel spinning rod and a 3000 Stradic.

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Australia is a bucket list place to fish for me. Giant Trevally, Queenfish, and Barramundi on the inshore and the Murray Cod in freshwater. It really is a top notch place to fish in the world!

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Watching River Monsters added alot of fish to my bucket list. The murray cod look like something that would be unreal.

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Murray Cod are phenomenal because they act like a bass....except grow to insane sizes. They still eat jigs, swimbaits, etc. You could be in a small river and catch a couple that are 5 pounds then hook into a 30 pounder in the same place with the same bait. Mental stuff!

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Need to look into stocking them in a pond here would be nuts if you could get a fish that size in a small lake here.

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Wipe out everything in the pond!? Probably have a time getting them into the us!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

I want to go back and catch trevally and then head north to go marlin fishing.

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GT's (GEETS as my buddy has told me they call them when he went) are one of the hardest fighting fish in the world. Sheer muscle and power....like a Jack Crevalle that took bull shark testosterone.

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After tackling the jack crevelles this spring the GTs are definitely up there hell the big JC's are a horse on medium heavy gear they can kill you but man theyre fun fish I cant imagine the big ass GT's like they catch in the indian ocean.

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"Who was that guy?"

"I don't know, he was wearing a mask."

I always thought the buffs looked stupid. But if it isn't too hot and you can keep them from steaming your glasses, they are a life saver.

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I will Post humpback whale footage once I have it uploaded.

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Whale footage from Platypus Bay (also where they catch black marlin off the beach and on light spinning tackle in their summer). Also, if anyone wants koala or me feeding a wallaby footage, I am happy to share it.

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This is the same area where we were whale watching. I really want to go back and try this on light spinning gear. You fly fishing guys would eat this up.

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That is surreal. It hurts my head to see marlin be caught in that kind of setting.

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Something that has passed me by and I will never do is scuba Australia.

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Saw 15 bowfin today on the Mattaponi. They wouldn't show until dead low. Shots at 8, Four hooked, two landed, along with two small bass. Client was cool except for stepping on a spin rod and snapping it like a twig. I should have told him to properly stow it. He offered to pay for it, I declined. Hope to fish with him again soon.

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Inbetween my vacation/hurricane prep got back out to my parents lagoon for baby tarpon. Turns out there are a couple bigger ones in there. Hooked into one that was at least 24" got him jumping all over until he tangled the line under the anchor for the fountain and that was all she wrote on the next jump,

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Will be interesting to see how Dorian effected the outer Banks with the direct hit I'm sure there's substantial damage to piers on the ocean and Ocracoke got walloped again waiting to hear back from the rental company on the state of it all

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Avalon pier is gone.

RIP Avalon and NH piers. 😔

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Do you think they will rebuild?

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Still waiting reports from my two friends with houses on the NC coast. One in Nags Head, an older cottage off the beach a couple of blocks, the other in Surf City, also a couple of blocks off the beach. We're scheduled to go to Surf City in two weeks to a rental that we got hurricaned out of last fall, and it is ocean front, so we're wondering. My buddy's house there is brand new, he'd moved in 8 days before having to evacuate. Well elevated and well built, he's hoping for the best, and my buddy in Nags Head wasn't too worried about more than typical shingle damage. Hatteras got slammed, the piers obviously took a severe hit, as they are so prone to do, and Ocracoke is out of business for a while and seriously flooded. Next day or two should provide clarity, and our rental is the least of the worries out there, but for all concerned, I hope things can get rolling again down there asap.

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Yeah, we are supposed to head down to Nags Head next Saturday for a family vacation. Waiting to hear the status of our rental. I believe the house is new construction so fingers crossed it held up well.

Where's the beef?

Our house last year only lost a bit of boardwalk and stairs to the beach, but the island was so clobbered, they shut the rentals down.
Hope you get to go, and the new construction is a plus. The folks down there depend on you and yours getting there and spending beaucoup fluce to keep them fed this winter.

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I would love to be able give them a lot of my money! Hope your friends down there are all safe.

Where's the beef?

My Surf City buddy is back down there now and reports no discernable damage. He said the locals said the beach was now wider.
Still don't know about Nags Head. Fingers are crossed for there. My friends there don't live there full time, so they didn't stick around. Both sets are seasoned beachers, though, and take hurricanes seriously enough to abscond when advised.

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Ocracoke got hammered and route 12 is washed out in multiple spots so itll be interesting to see how badly its damaged but last year it took 3 weeks to repair the road so I would guess similar time frames with this washout being worse. The Island itself is shutoff has no potable water and no power so only essential folks are down there to help clean up after the flooding and the rest are being evacuated out of there until water and supplies can get back down there. would also imagine the channel needs to be dredged in a serious way.

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Portsmouth Island is undriveable at the moment. There were some cuts created from the sound to the ocean side.

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I'll be running the whole backside of Portsmouth from Lookout next week looking for redfish. Will be interesting to see the changes.

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Still waiting for an update from the realty company on my families house on Ocracoke but should be okay as high up as it is we keep the bottom floor empty for a good reason

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Okay trout people I need some guidance. Spent the weekend scouting mountain streams and Yellow Breeches Creek in Pennsylvannia all weekend and man those bodies of water are fishy, didnt have a license due to time limits but will be going back up in october to give it a swing. Only issue I havent a clue on nymph fishing unless its under a dry fly so if anyone has any advice on what flies might work I'm all ears. The creeks and rivers are limestone based and have plenty of big rainbows and browns and the mountain stuff has good populations of brook trout.
Any advice on trout fishing is welcome I'm going to do some serious research into a good fly shop to go to in the area and today found a few floatable stretches which should allow me to hit more remote stretches.

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Tennessee report:

Fished a lower section of Holston with a friend in his drift boat on Thursday. Target was smallmouth. Pretty flat and slow moving section but the surroundings looked like the New. My friend invited a local guy to fish with us as well so he could show us the secrets of the river. This guy was as local as it could get for East Tennessee and only threw olive flukes with black flakes. He did pretty well with them and caught several up to 16" but none of the monsters he bragged about being in this section. I matched him fish for fish on the fly, but it took me hours to figure it out. They wouldn't touch any of my staples. I fished everything. Nearly every fish he caught puked up brown and olive crayfish. They wouldn't eat any crayfish flies. I finally locked in on them on a small chartreuse minnow pattern that has been my most successful smallmouth fly ever, except usually I use white.

The boat ramps were littered with garbage, which was frustrating. I picked up a lot of it and got some strange looks doing so. One good fishing section was filled with hundreds and hundreds of discarded tires. So depressing. The local guy didn't find them to be an issue or eye sore. He was a nice guy but being a conservationist of his local waterways didn't seem to be a top priority.

I enjoyed the float, it was 11 or so miles and we were on the water for 14 hours. Long day and I was beat from fishing and rowing but as a boat we probably landed 60-70 fish overall. Biggest at 16.5".

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As for Nashville...... wow. This will be a two or three day hangover. The fishing on Broadway is off the charts. I'm not joking, looking at open jobs there this afternoon. I could make that move. Such a cool place, great food, great music scene, everyone is happy and having fun, lots of beverages, best fly shop in the country and the actual fishing in surrounding waters is very good, loaded with trout, musky and smallmouth. I cannot wait to get back.

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As for Nashville...... wow. This will be a two or three day hangover. The fishing on Broadway is off the charts. I'm not joking, looking at open jobs there this afternoon.

I recently took a 4 day weekend to Nashville. I will never be back. Not because I didn't have fun or I hated it but because I do not think my body could survive going back to Nashville.

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New Orleans is the same for me. Damn, did I have a great time both times I've been there, both Sugar bowl trips, '95 and '99. Way too easy, way too smooth and fuzzy, and waaaaaayyyyy too dangerous for long term survival. Glad I went, and I won't swear I'll never be back, but I get your drift about Nashville.

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As the one and only Jimmy Buffett says, "livin' and dyin' in three-quarter time."

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Man. Makes me miss middle Tennessee. Definitely some of the best fishing, both kinds.

Fly South Fly Shop?

Yes, right across from Hattie B's. That is the most well stocked fly shop I have ever set foot in. Talked with the owner again, he couldn't be nicer. The guys that work in there are great.

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I agree. I spent many lunch hours in there when I lived there. I really could use a Caney Fork trip right about now...

I keep hearing about that river. Smallmouth in it?

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Probably. But mainly managed for trophy trout. One of my most frustrating days of fly fishing (ever) was watching a pod of at least 8 roughly 22-26" brown trout sip midges for over two hours and I had nothing close enough to get them to eat. I threw everything I had and they followed several offerings but never committed. It's an absolutely gorgeous river too. I received a warm welcome and great advice from the folks at this forum: Trophy Fishing TN

Nice day out today on the salt, but the fish were disinterested. Caught several of various species, but not much to write home about. One nice trout, one nice bluefish. We were mainly getting my buddy's Grady trailered to a ramp and back on the water after the hurricane and some maintenance, so were were less than serious.

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Have the tides returned to normal post Dorian in your area?

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Seem to be.

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Cool, thanks!

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They still biting the usual stuff? Gonna be down there this weekend was gonna take the canoe for a spin and cast at a few docks if the weather holds

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Yep I'd be willing to bet so, but other than yesterday around Gwynn's Island, I haven't been out since the blow.
I did watch local guide Chris Newsome chum up some small stripers for his fly rodders yesterday there at the bridge and he was working a couple of nearby docks as well, so I'd say it'll be worth it for you to give it a try.
By the way, my buddy Hal up the Piankatank is considering selling his Carolina Skiff. Don't have specifics, but it's a smaller one with maybe a 50 hp 4 stroke and a trolling motor. Sure would up your game locally, but I know you have a lot on your plate with housing and marrying and all. But do let me know if you have any interest and I'll check into it.

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Let me know if that ends up happening. I have a friend around Mathews that's been looking for a little skiff like that.

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Will do. He's waffling. Bought it a few years ago to explore up Dragon Run and around the upper Piankatank where he lives, but keeping that and his old Grady up and going is starting to annoy him.
I have emailed him and asked for the particulars and I'll let y'all know when he responds, but I think he's still trying to talk himself into justifying one way or the other.

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Any details I'd look at just out of curiosity probably couldnt afford it at the moment but I'm interested atleast. any additional info is welcome. I'm gonna get me some gulp and see what the east river holds this weekend and will report back if I find anything.

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If memory serves me well, it is a 15' skiff with a 50 yamaha 4, don't know the years of either. Not sure on the make/model of the trolling motor, but it's only a couple of years old. I've fished out of it a few times, seems good to go. He bought it maybe 4 years or so ago, and I believe he paid 2 grand for it then, but I won't swear to it. He keeps his gear in order, though, so if the price is right, it'll be a good boat for somebody.

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Ahh well thats more my price range if he decides to sell pop me an email on it and I'll check it out.

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If and when.

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Well, that didn't fly. My friend has decided to go another year to see if he gets enough use of the skiff to justify keeping it, but when he decides to dump it, and he likely will in the next year, I'll let y'all know.

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Good for buyers, value drops 10% a year!

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Gheenoe's the design intrigues me. Seems like a suitable small water, back water craft. I live in northeastern N.C. so that is the area that would see the most use. Any users thoughts would be welcome.

A few folks in here have used them and some have one still theyre a nice boat that are straight forward and simple to use and you can rig up in a million ways if you want.

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I know Fly Guy had one and maybe Dave had one. Could definitely be a good backwater weapon.

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Dave bought a solid, though very used 15'4", but probably should have bought Flyguy's 13' when he had it up for sale. The 15' 4" is rated for more HP and load. I put a TM on the front and I can stand and fish comfortably. However, the back seat is further from the transom than I'd like. I have to pivot all the way around to start the outboard and change gears. I'm old, and getting measurably/noticeably lazier and less flexible by the minute.

The Gheenoe is in fact a backwater, skinny water "weapon". They will also do what the manufacturer claims in open water, but it is not a pleasant experience in a chop. Will you sink? No. Will you be happy about being in a Gheenoe at that moment? Also no. However, if where you are fishing is remotely suitable for a canoe, it will be fabulous for a Gheenoe.

I live on a backwater tidal cove in St Augustine and right before Dorian, a young couple in a 13' with a 9.8hp and TM on the front came in there fishing on the super high tides (it's not usually a very good place to fish for more reasons than I can explain here) so I walked over and asked him about it. He had done what I did...buy a used one and fix it up. Said the 9.8 didn't overpower it, they just had to take it easy in the wind out on the ICW. So take that FWIW.

Gheenoe is a very good option for some applications. But there are other options as well, especially if you are going to trailer whatever you get.

Had a 13' for a year and a half before buying the Hewes. I liked it. It would be an excellent Pamlico sound boat chasing redfish on the flats. I would only go on mostly calm days. It would not be fun in 20 mph wind. They have some great stability. I could stand up and pole or fly fish in it without much worry of falling over. It would float in 4 inches of water with me and a friend in it.

Rated for a 5 Horsepower. I had a Honda 5 on it that wouldn't get it up on plane, the engine never hit full RPM. Couldn't say how it truly performs at maybe 12-15 mph?

What scares me about it is no bilge. That thing gets some water in it.... not going to be good. I'm sure one could be installed. I do not think they take wakes well in my opinion. Went through some in some deep water with my girlfriend at the time and splash came over the bow. A bit scary for a mid-February redfish trip.

They are badass boats. I thought the 13, despite being told it could be put on top of a car, was too damn heavy to do it easily. I ended up put it on my kayak trailer and that was a pain in the ass.

A friend of mine has the 15' for fishing Mosquito Lagoon and he loves it.

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Going out tomorrow. I still have yet to throw my fly rod that I've had for nearly a year now. I've had one creek that has had a fish in it every time I've hit it. My only goal this weekend is a fish on the fly.

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Nailed a solid 16" trout on a skitter walk. Followed that up with a small redfish on a doa CAL. Then picked up the fly rod...it had been over a year since I casted and the 15mph wind didn't do me favors. Luckily we were in small creeks and didnt need a ton of cast distance. Threw Flyguys slider missed on a small red. Then saw a small bonnet head digging around in the shallows figured lol he won't eat this. He tried but I panicked and figured my redfish leader probably wouldn't hold up regardless.

Nothing on the fly today. Winds are supposed to be worse tomorrow.

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Didnt even try on the fly today....gonna have to get better at casting in the wind.

Did manage 4 trout that were 1" under and a flounder that was 1" under all on swimbaits.....was really hoping to dial up some ceviche but one trout isn't going to make much.

Edit: forgot the highlight of the trip. I've taken my dad fishing a few times, he doesn't get to go much and hasn't fished much since spincasters were popular. Every time we go out the wind howls he has never caught a target species while fishing with me....today he caught two trout and it was awesome.

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That IS a highlight.

Alright. Heading to Nags Head tomorrow. Whats in the surf and what are they biting on? Thanks!

Where's the beef?

Puppy drum and trout if you can find a hole. The chartreuse or white gulp with a red jig head will get both. Small chunks of fresh mullet chunks on a dropper loop double hook bottom rig (do not use the wire double hook rig they sell in tackle shops!) should produce small puppy drum.

I know people have been trying for big drum, but outside of Rob's wife, I have not heard any surf guys getting one. She got hers at the Oregon Inlet jetty.

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Thanks French. Will using the wire double hook rigs greatly reduce my likelihood of catching something? Im lazy. Hah.

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In my experience, yes. Greatly. I tie my own in advance by the half dozen or so. Put each one coiled up in a zip lock bag and stuff in your tackle bag. I use fluoro.

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My opinion is that it depends on what you're after. Panfish, like spot and croaker don't care about the metal and clunky appearance in my experience. Definitely, trout and reds are more likely to bite a more subtle presentation. Another fish that doesn't care much one way or the other is the bluefish. Give 'em meat on a boat hook and they'll eat it. I often will buy the steel leadered stainless hooks with the bullet float on the wire and use them with cut mullet on the top hook, with fishbites or shrimp on the bottom hook using the stouter wire two hook rigs they sell. You can still catch drum with them, but I do agree that a fluorocarbon rig will likely catch more drum. Also, I've noticed the smaller the drum are, the more likely they are to bite such a rig, but mainly it's the prevalence of numbers. If the surf's full of them, they'll bite it readily as school competition comes in to play. I've also caught numbers of 2-7lb reds and blacks on wire two hook rigs off of Ocracoke when the water was full of them, so they will hit them situationally quite well. I just wouldn't count on it always being the case.
I have a reputation for being lazy, though in fishing I can be pretty anal, but if all you're after is the typical smallish surf dwellers, nothing wrong with the wire two hook affair. If flounder are around, you might want to have a freshwater rod and toss Gulp chartreuse swimming mullet, 4", on a red gotcha style jig head at least a 1/2 oz. The flounder are often fairly close in and are always on the bottom, so a slow bottom hugging retrieve is in order. This will also catch the attention of blues, drum and trout, and you'll be losing tails if you get bit much, but it's a lot of fun as opposed to sitting around drinking beer and waiting for something to hit your surf rod in the sand spike (NOT that there's anything wrong with that!). Again, though, flounder will hit the regular rig, but if they're biting and you want to target them, lose the metal rig for more productive fishing. If they're in the surf and hitting bottom rigs, you'll catch far more on the Gulp rig than the bottom riggers, and likely bigger fish as well if they're around. I am also a shameless imitator. If I see someone doing well in the surf, I grab a beer and go a-talkin' and askin', and do what I need to to get in on the action, but just as often, I have folks coming up to me.

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Use 30 pound mono or fluro and tie using a dropper loop. See this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0uFJez60xk

For the record, puppy drum are my white whale. I have caught big ones, but can't catch the smaller ones. Also, the dropper loop knot is without a doubt the hardest besides a bimini twist for me to tie.

ADDENDUM: My buddy Jake got a big drum yesterday off Jennettes's.

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Thanks. Im here for a week so i'll try my hand at tying one up myself. Its pretty rough here. Saw surfers catching 7-8 ft curls earlier.

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Drum water. Buy fresh cob mullet and use the heads with a 10/0 octopus circle on a fishfinder rig on the beach near Oregon Inlet. Several nice ones were caught yesterday and today. Will be tough fishing in rough water, but they will be chewing.

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Rough water also brings in the bluefish. You'll maybe need to get a sputnik style sinker to hold bottom. Wish they'd have had them back in my heavy surf fishing days. Let us know how tying the bottom rigs goes for you. I've used hundreds of the wire ones and caught thousands of fish on them over the years, so I don't have the same aversion others seem to have for them, depending on the quarry.

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I have not caught an American fish since June. Arkansas on Tuesday. Saudi Arabia on Sunday. #Soon

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Where in Arkansas?

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Conway. It is a fly in Tuesday, fly out Wednesday deal. Then Sunday to Saudi Arabia, following Friday to Missoula MT for a wedding, then Monday in Allentown PA. Then I am f'n done.

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Flyguy has no contacts in Missoula?

Not off the top of my head, but I do know people in most places. Ask around at a bar, you'll probably get a free beer or a punch in the face at the drop of my name.

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I am not there long enough. My schedule:

9/27- depart Riyadh at 1:45AM- fly to Frankfurt, Germany at 7:15AM
Depart Frankfurt at 12:20PM, land at Dulles at 3:15PM
Go home and shower, grab a different suitcase
Depart Dulles at 10:15PM for SFO. Land on 9/28 at 1:15AM
Depart SFO on 9/28 at 6:00AM- Land in Missoula at 11:15AM

Go to hotel. Shower and change.

Wedding at 4:00PM
Reception
Sleep at hotel.

Up at 5:00AM. Depart for Denver at 8:00 Sunday AM 9/29
Arrive in Denver at 9:55AM
Depart Denver at 5:00PM. Get home at 10:30PM

Drive to Allentown PA on Monday AM.

I am fooked.

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Jeez dude. That blows. Can you take a week fishing trip after all that shit? I hope so. You have my extreme condolences. Good luck.

Planning to take off at least Oct 18-27, and hopefully another week.

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That trip would literally kill me now! Tell me they send you first class or at least business!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Business for the trip to Saudi and back. Montana will be in economy.

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Hoping this next hurricane stays south and just whacks Florida instead of curling up to NC. Sorry Dave and any others down there.

I am heading to Cape Lookout for a few days either tomorrow evening or first thing Monday morning... Fishing on my mind. French, hope I catch a big one for you.

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May a 15 pound albie be in your future.

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Flyguy will beat me like a rented mule but I'm headed back to Chick R tomorrow. My buddy with the boat has a HO for it. What can I say.

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

A buddy of mine just bought a mountain house near bentonville. Any insight on good spots in the area?

Where 675 crosses the south fork of the Shenandoah River north of Luray has a low water bridge adjacent to another bridge. That area has produced good fishing for me pretty consistently as far as bank fishing goes. Floating the entire stretch of the south fork is always a fun time. Good numbers and size of smallmouth are available. And can't ask for much prettier a river and scenery. Mossy Creek Fly Fishing does guided trips and they've had pretty good success this year it seems, based on their social media accounts and fishing reports.

Finally got out in the mobjack and found some tailing reds yesterday morning tides were perfect for the sunrise trip and after messing around a bunch on saturday I managed to get 7 drum in the boat and 9 speckled trout, a few lizard fish, a small small flounder and a very determined spot. Never thought I'd find myself chasing tailing reds in VA so that was a great time gonna go back next weekend a few times to see if I can try some other areas I liked the look of but never fished it since I found some spots that were actively producing. Most of the puppy drum were in the 12-16 inch range with one with 6 spots. Did however find a few big ones tailing and got one I stalked for a bit before he finally fell for the shrimp he ended up being 24 inches and felt a solid 6 pounds. Then snagged another around 21 inches that managed to almost pull me under a dock before I weaseled him out of the pilings with one hand holding the pier to keep from going below. Nothing beats getting dragged all over a creek to start the day. Loved seeing tons of small speckled trout everywhere no big trout today but so many dinks it brings me some hope the good numbers are returning.

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Sweet! That looks like a hell of a good time.

Very cool, 'nator. I haven't found the tailing reds yet, and my trout neighbor Hokie Paul, fished yesterday with nothing but dinks to show for it. His big red was 16". I have been hoping the reds would filter into the local scene as September rolled on. The 21" you got would've ended up in the skillet had I met it. Those Gulp shrimps are the real deal, aren't they? I have 3rdGen to thank for my conversion, and I won't hesitate to thank him any chance I get.

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You have taught me plenty Fish. That's the beauty of fishing with other people. You learn something from everyone you fish with.

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Agreed. Hoping to fish with both of you again soon when I get off the road.

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Same here French! You need a break

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To you and 3rd thank ya for the bait reccomendations once I figured out the pace they wanted them at it clicked and I was getting fish almost every cast. The water felt significantly cooler this weekend as well so wonder if thats what turned the reds so far inshore. I still have plenty to learn on the salt scene but this is a good start and I kind of know what to look for next weekend when I'll be venturing further out to try other creeks. Set out thinking I could atleast snag a ribbon fish but only got a few lizardfish on saturday had one big fish eat but pull off in the pillings on a pier as well damned barnacles.

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The mobjack was on fire this past weekend. A friend and I caught 15-20 trout, 7 keepers including a fat 22" on Saturday. Two of my friends fished it Sunday and caught 20+ trout. Another friend fished it Sunday and caught 10+ puppy drum and a few decent rocks. The trout were on artificials but the drum were on peelers.

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What did they get the rocks on by chance I was pitching artificial shrimp and getting into lots of the small trout but no big ones unfortunately was hoping to snag some rockfish somewhere this upcoming weekend. Wonder if I need to try a swimbait for the rockfish. Hard to beat peelers for the drum though if I hadnt have gotten them to bite the shrimp I was gonna chunk a crab to throw at them because seeing them tail I knew they were hungry.

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I believe they got the rockfish on peelers also. I think the biggest rock they got was in the ~25" and the biggest drum was ~22".

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Not much can turn down a well presented peeler crab. Might get a few gulp ones to chuck at some piers to just test it out.

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The stripers will eat that Gulp shrimp in a heartbeat, and they absolutely love the swimming mullet as well. They seem to like a little higher hop on the retrieve than the reds. I get the trout on them both on the bottom with my usual incremental retrieve, but also on the shrimp when keeping it twitching in the middle of the water column.
Really glad to hear about all the drum out there. Between the Hokies on Sat. and my birthday stuff yesterday with Mrs. Fish, I was out of action this weekend. Chores are keeping me around today, but these reports have me thinking about getting out tomorrow.
And don't neglect the bait that worked best for us that year the drum were shallow and plentiful...namely, Gulp (of course) Jerk Shad, rigged on an offset worm hook fished weightless in the shallows and around the grass. The hook tip can be skin hooked for a weedless presentation, but if you land it near them, they'll blow up on it like an M 80 went off. We used mainly 5", but as the fish averaged bigger, went to 6" for the extra weight and longer casts. Used 4/0 Gamakatsu or Owner offset worm hooks, but would also use 5/0 for the 6" baits. For us, chartreuse and white combos worked best, but we also got them on electric chicken color as well.

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Happy birthday fish heres to many more! Do you guys use popping corks or not then? I was getting bites without a cork but once I switched to a popping cork I couldnt get away from the fish the trout in particular went nuts even the drum tailing in the shallows werent spooked by the rig landing near them. Was gonna rig up another rod with a more subtle approach for this weekend upcoming to try and be more stealthy or atleast trail a mullet or swimbait behind the boat incase a flounder is around. Gonna try some of the scented shad baits Zman has as well as gulp to see if they work but the gulp stuff held up well for me this weekend better than I thought it would atleast. Also I was working a 1/8 ounce long shank hook gotcha head the shorter bigger hooks didnt seem to get good hookups like the smaller longer hook as well.

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I don't use popping corks. Trout do love them, and I see a ton of people using them out there, but I haven't had any trouble catching trout when I find them on my old tried and true. As for when the reds were around and feeding in the shallows, we're talking 6-10'' of water here, popping corks weren't indicated. Those jerk shad cast a country mile on light line, so you don't need the casting weight, and those fish weren't going to miss seeing the baits land if they were anywhere close. We were also having to work the jerk shad high up to avoid bottom and weeds, so they made their own kind of noise and ripples as we would hop them up and even out of the water on short jumps. I've heard of guys even trolling with Mirrolures under popping corks, they definitely do have a use, I just haven't migrated there yet. I did dedicate one entire day to throwing peanut bunker under popping corks, but all I caught was bluefish, and little ones at that. That was a year that trout weren't plentiful, though, and reds were nonexistent inshore. I talked to some guys the other day who'd been fishing the Guinea Marsh and they had some nice trout on a popping cork with a curly tailed grub under it, but also said they did just as well with Mirrolures. Go figger, I guess, but I think if you find the fish, many approaches will suffice. I am constantly reminded that there isn't a fish out there than can only be caught one way.

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Popping corks can be useful but most of the time I'm looking all around and can't singularly focus of the cork. Most useful in shallower water. You want the leader to be shorter than the depth of the water so your lure is elevated off the bottom. You probably want 2.5'-5' of water to use it. It does force you to fish slower which is a key for trout especially when it gets colder. Another different fishery is using bigger popping corks on the Neuse River big drum run to cause lots of noise to draw the attention of the drum. People are using them from 5' to 20' of water. Either way you can only use a couple feet of leader or else it gets tough to cast.

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To answer both of you guys I was fishing deeper drops from 2 feet to 8 feet of water sticking to deeper stuff but even in the 2 foot sections on the oysters bars the cork worked to good effect. Beats the hell out of me how a large clunky thing making racket improves chances but I'm all for it working as well as it does. So I'm assuming you guys just straight rig it on a gotcha jig and play it slow so I wasnt far off at the start just wasnt going slow enough I guess. I was damn happy to have some 15 pound mono leader around for that though with all the crap I was fishing around the big drum did a number to my leader on multiple occasions and the trout didnt seem to mind it. Contemplated chucking my electric chicken colored paddlerz made by Z-man that are scented paddletail baits but thought they would be too big and clunky. I couldnt keep constant track of the drum either it was briefer surface stuff wonder if a gurgler fly would work as well.Think a flounder would prefer a a shad bait or a shrimp more slowly pulled behind the boat? Kinda want to get one to finally catch a decent one after too long of a time not seeing any.

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I have heard different things but one is shrimp popping on the surface or other game fish feeding. I generally take a 5 second pause. Line to popping cork to 18" to 2' of leader and a 1/8 or 1/4 oz jig head. If it's only 4" it wouldn't be too big. Shad would probably be better but Fish uses the curly tail mullet for flounder.

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Huh I was popping more often then 5 second waits. That said I would slow it down to longer than 5 seconds just to try it since this is all brand new stuff for me. I was working it on a 3-4 foot leader on a 1/8 ounce jig head figured the lighter the better to give it a slower action. The next few trips will all be experimental as well to keep trying to open up the world of inshore stuff to me. Just thought if flounder are about drifting a mullet or swimbait along the bottom behind me might pick up a odd flounder or two.

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It can work but they are hitting it on the fall/pause most of the time. Correct thinking on light jig head. That could work as long as your bait is scented.

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Huh the more you know I guess I prefer lighter stuff anyway now that you say it the pause was when I got most bites if I noticed some movement I'd hit a slight twitch and let them have it till the cork made a big move and as always let them set the hook themselves. Gonna try out some Zman big eye jig heads as well just to see. If they wont hit the scented gulp trailed behind the kayak I'll throw a flounder rig on and chunk a menhaden on it.

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Gulp will work for flounder, but I wouldn't just drag it along and expect much. If you aren't going to work the bait, use the flounder rig and chunk o' bunker. Better find a better place to catch them, though. The few I've caught in the East have been the kind you can put in your wallet and not notice. Or read the newspaper through them. I'm catching more in the North this year than ever, but all shorts as well. Just not many flounder to be had locally, but who knows, you might get lucky. They'll hang around docks also, and like the reds, will lie in the shade on a hot day up under the dock. Flounder hang out where lizardfish hang out, so if you're getting one and the other's around, you should know. They hit the same stuff, and supposedly are every bit as good on the table if you can get one big enough to bother with.

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It's giving scent like bait would though with potential to get more action. A drum fishing seminar put on by tournament anglers, they would make a carolina rig and put gulp shrimp as the bait since they can only use artificial lures. I've caught a few nice flounders by leaving lures unattended on the bottom so it's not the worst idea.

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Yeah, I've done that too with them just lying, not decent flounder, but if you're just dragging them around, it seems like the bunker might attract more attention. Croaker are famous for eating Gulp lying still, even after the tail is gone. Maybe drag it under a popping cork and give it a twitch between casts and paddle strokes?

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It works but it's not something I'd say is effective. I was fishing a gulp behind a cork off one side of the boat when my bud started nailing trout on the other so I left it still and got my other rod. Caught a trout then my other rod bent over from a red that was fun.

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My $.02...

Go to WalMart, Academy, or Green Top (on line) and spend no more than $4 on a 3 pack of Storm 3" (1/4 oz) bunker color WildEye shad.

Buy EXACTLY this. DO NOT substitute any other size, brand, or color. And DO NOT pay more than $4.

If you get them, tie one on with a loop knot and fish it with a slow to modest, comfortable, steady retrieve from the near the bottom to the middle of the water column. Your 2-8' water is perfect. Cast it out, let it fall (unless you are over oysters), and swim it back.

I would be shocked if this doesn't consistently catch fish. I consider this kind of the gold spoon of the swim bait world and I have one and often two rods rigged with them every time I go fishing.

edit: This one...red eye, hint of bronze, translucent holographic belly, dashed lateral lines...

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I will buy a pack Dave. I've never really settled on a swimbait I love/fish consistently.

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My only catch in Australia was on this size storm shad in the peanut bunker color.

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I do agree with your choice, but have also done well with the croaker color. Good advice on size, color and presentation. Stripers, errr rockfish here, do like this bait for certain, and I got two bookend 10 lb gray trout one night off of the CBBT on the croaker color. The 3" size works for a variety of sized fish, too. Good call.

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My buddy who introduced me to this bait about 15 years ago went on a guided trip down in the Port Orange area last year just to learn his way around. Guide starts fishing with his stuff, the other client (another friend of ours) follows the guide's lead. After my buddy is quickly up about 5 fish on both of them and they haven't had a nibble, guide says, "so, what's that you're throwin'? I think I gotta get me some of them".

I'll give it a look and grab a pack for the upcoming weekend, the ideas in here are giving me plenty to think on gonna try to get out both saturday and sunday and try some new areas unless theyre back where I found them this weekend. Funny how with all the insane innovations in fishing tackle that the old tried and true spoons and storm shad can get it done.

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I don't think scent matters at all if the bait isn't still, paused, or suspended. So the profile, sound, light reflection, and movement is everything. All this bait lacks, in my opinion, is a rattle tube.

I don't think this bait will always outperform others. I've had a lot of luck with Slayer tails and I'm going to try some Zman baits this fall. But if I'm starting from scratch on what is the hot bait or I'm just trying to find fish, my first 2 choices are the storm shad and a gulp shrimp.

The Zman swimbaits are my staple in florida the diezel minnows in 3-4 inches caught everything regularly in pilchard color and if we had brought more gulp we wouldve stuck with that but the toothy fish dictated we needed something tougher.

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Red jig head with a gold sparkle Diezel minnow is my money speckled trout bait in the OBX off the piers. Love them.

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I lucked into them one year fishing the Bay Bridge Tunnel for stripers at night, and won't be without them since. I carry a few different colors, including the chartreuse/pearl-ish ones that schoolies love, but agree that Storm Wild Eye is the only one to buy of all the swim baits in all the world. I do like the darker colors at night and the lighter ones during the day for stripers, but that could be an unfounded supposition as I haven't done a comparison test. Calcutta makes a good swim bait as well, but if I could only have one, it's the Storm.
As a guide in my day, I always encouraged both using my stuff and not using my stuff if that's what my client wanted, and depending on where it came from, like Mizmo Teaser Tubes from Ken Penrod, I'd adopt a well performing bait. 95% of the time, the guy using my stuff caught more fish and the other guy would be using it within an hour, but that 5% was helpful to me to grow my experience. At first, it rankled me that a fellow would spend so much money to go on a guided trip, then ignore the guide's advice, but the proof was in the pudding and even the more stubborn of them came around after their buddy was up by double digits or got an early citation on my baits.

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Yaeh, my buddy went with the guide just to learn how to get around in a new area (he recently retired and moved). If the guide had produced on something different, I'm sure he would have switched.

I like the red eyes for down here. Only 3 wild-eye patterns come with red eyes...the mullet color doesn't come in 3" and the golden mullet isn't translucent. The latter loses side by side to the bunker every time...we've tried...a lot.

For me, Storm also comes with a better hook than Berkley and other clones. Maybe it's because they are owned by Rapala VMC, maybe not. But it's less bendy.

VMC makes a good hook

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Looks like a mummichog color combo to me.

Also, I can tie that in a fly. Give me a few days when I return home from NC

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Hell I could net a few chogs and use them too if I get desperate I remember the days as wee kids we would use small flies and try to catch mummichogs off the pier. Desperate times

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Pretty fish! BG workin' for ya?

Loving it with the mojo bass rod as well. Needed every ounce of the drag on the 3000 for that bigger drum he pulled me around for a nice bit left right too and fro. The family got a good laugh watching me get pulled around the creek in the kayak and to my joy the rod handled well considering it was under alot of pressure. The 21" fish was under a dock and I had to horse him out from the pillings which aint easy in a kayak but the rod did the trick. The rods sensitive as hell which is great for slow bouncing jigs and artificials and getting a good hookset so they dont swallow the hook.

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excellent!

Well done Hokienator. Sent a close friend of mine to Mobjack this morning and he only caught two small trout.

Perhaps I need to stop traveling so far to get my ass kicked by the wind. Yesterday evening they were calling for 8-10 today at Cape Lookout and 10-12 Tuesday. Well at 4 pm today it was blowing what I would say was 18-20. Got the crap kicked out of me trying to find bull drum. Tomorrow they are now calling for 14-18 with gusts to 22, and Wednesday 18-22 with gusts to 30 and Thursday 22-28 with gusts over 35. Good reports of reds, trout, spanish and lady fish off of the beaches, but that's not worth knocking the cartilage out of my knees.

Photo of my boat blowing around in the wind

Trying again tomorrow morning and then deciding whether to head back home to RVA or pray the weatherman is wrong in the other direction for Wednesday and Thursday.

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Maybe this blind squirrel found the acorn but we will see this weekend gonna try again to see if I can find the bigger drum again that was too much fun. Nothing worse than when the weatherman gets it wrong, or right for that matter.

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I think you were on to something fishing up the creek instead of in the main water. I wouldn't have been fishing there had I gone out, I'd have stuck to the main rivers and ignored that skinny water you found the drum in. You are literally the only person I've heard of that has caught more than one over 15" in a day. Couple of folks have lucked into bigger cruisers, but not more than one in a day, and they were targeting trout so they weren't in that backwater stuff. They're getting some big ones sight casting out around the Spit as they're looking for cobia, but you seem to have won the puppy drum award from what I've been hearing. I've been here for 7 years now and still haven't seen even one tailing red even when they were plentiful and shallow, so maybe you should concentrate on that creek stuff. Hope the wind settles down for you this weekend, it's scheduled to blow for a few days. I'd definitely have a jerk shad or fluke rigged up weightless, you'll enjoy the action if you find the fish.

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I have seen exactly two tailers in all my time fishing out there over the past seven years. Have seen some schools of the puppies swimming around but most I have caught have been blind casting.

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I'll keep to the spots that are similar to what produced last weekend, found them saturday evening then thick in the morning definitely influenced by the tides though once it went slack the action dropped and 11 am rolled around and it went quiet. I've never seen them tailing before here so hoping this wasnt just a fluke couple of them wandering in one morning but we will see, if it blows bad I'll just bring an anchor and find covered water I wasnt planning on running out to the mouth unless it was gonna be calm. I'll grab a fluke or two and keep them ready. Gonna have the fiance with me this weekend so if theres a fish around she will find it no doubt.

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Better to be lucky than good! Sometimes it just happens that way. Bad thing, they have tails and no homes, so they might move on ya!

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Thats my only worry is that by saturday they will have moved on but we shall see it was fun to get something that sized inshore for once. Makes ya think about moving to texas or louisiana for the fall or winter months.

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So, what do I need to know about zman baits? I know they don't store well in certain plastics and will melt/bleed on other soft plastic baits.

If I leave one on a painted jig head, will it take the paint off? If I leave one stored on a rod, will it mess up the finish on the blank? If one is lying on the bottom of the boat, will it mess up the gelcoat? Will they melt the eye on their own trout eye jig heads?

They are stretchy!

Had one left on a jig head and it never took off the paint.

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there is one plus!

Don't store them with other soft plastics...best to just keep them in their bags but they are fine in planos. They do not screw into screw lock jigs. Sometimes they're a pain in the ass if you don't line the hook up just right and go to redo it the hook doesn't want to backout.

Don't have to worry about them affecting paint, gelcoat, or rod.

Absolutely the most durable soft plastic on the market.

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thanks!

Second this, I found out the hard way dont put them in with other plastics or they melt and gel and its messy and oily as hell. Just do what he said keep em in the bag it can be somewhat cluttery but you'll be able to make em last much longer that way. They are nigh destructible just be sure to hook it straight when you put it on or youll get twists in your line as well. The chinlok hooks they sell are perfect for weedless rigging regular offset worm hooks wont be able to hold the plastic up on the hook as well if you have nibblers around to tug on the baits tails.

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The straight hooking is essential on all plastics, especially the ones with resistance tails like paddles or curly tails, and even for cut bait if there's current or you're dragging it. When walleye fishing, I tip my jigs with minnows hooked in through the mouth and out through the top of the head, and if it isn't straight, the jigging will twist the line to the point of having to fix it, generally by cutting off the bait and letting the line out into current or dragging it behind the moving boat to straighten it out, a pain in the butt.
As for melting plastic, Gulp will flat out melt too if it is in the hot sun too long. My buddy left a pack in the top pocket of his black fishing bag on a 90 degree day, and all the curly tails on his swimming mullets melted into each other and he lost more than half a bag of that high dollar stuff.

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The Zman stuff is weird it doesnt like somewhat melt it goes straight into a melted sticky goo pile of unreasonableness that you can hardly tell used to be a bait. I'll add a picture up later when I get home of my one box thats I discovered this weekend.

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I just used the texas eye hooks with the chin lockz for the first time this week. things swing all over was a big fan.

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Were you using swimbaits with em? look good for stuff like shrimp baits as well.

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Swim baits and DOA shrimp.

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so thread it on like a regular weedless offset?

yupp

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good! something I need to spend money on, lol.

Anyone been to Primland, or fished around Primland? Going next week (Tue-Fri am, then hopping up to Blacksburg for the Duke game) and hoping to hit a few of the ponds. Any local knowledge down that way would be nice.

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You strollin' through some high cotton there nerf.

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Scheduled a few nights away with the GF after she received a substantial bonus check a few months ago. And works out with the VT game. AND with the baby coming between Thanksgiving and Christmas...one last hurrah away.

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Hit Bass pro today to get some goodies for pond rainbow trout. And picked up some RVA beer goodies for me to enjoy while tossing out casts. Hoping to wet a line tomorrow afternoon.

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Welp....found the big pond on property. And unfortunately, the water level was down around 3 feet. Saw a lot of little fry and sunnies swimming around, even a few up close when they hit the chatter bait I tossed out, but nothing of note came out to say hi. I did get to prove to my gf that you can actually catch fish with just a hook and a kernel of corn. That won me some odd looks, even after it was proven to be true. The highlight of the venture to find the impoundement was seeing the largest pheasant I've ever seen. He was on the edge of a field and didn't even flinch when we drove around the corner. I imagine hes' the mayor of the south gate at Primland.

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Blowing 30-40 in Cape Lookout. Back home in RVA for 3 days, then heading back Saturday post blow.

I did get my trailer lights completely fixed and working today.

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"fixed and working today". Operative word, ''today".
Heading to Surf City Saturday for a confabulation of 15 of us Hokies (well, all but a couple), friends since 71-72. We'll do a little fishing, but a lot of "friending". Also getting a drive by breakfast with my old Highty Tighty buddy who flunked out with me back in '69 after our first sophomore semester. Haven't seen him in over 40 years, so we'll have a lot to catch up on in a couple of hours.
Drum have been the target down there, so I'm hoping to get a bunch of puppies and who knows? My friend who built down there has a Carolina Skiff (21.5') a 115 Yamaha 4 stroke and a trolling motor, so we'll have the right craft to work the docks on the ICW side. Looking forward to that.

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enjoy!

Yes, today is the operative word.

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Dave, here is my version of that swimbait you had posted previously. I personally think the color combo is more "mummichog" than bunker/menhaden.

I'm debating putting a lip on it to make it wiggle like a Rapala.

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If I can find the puppy drum this weekend I'm bringing the shrimp and M4 flies you tied me to see if I can get one on the fly.

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that's a great pattern! you really, really, really have an eye for it.

don't know "mummichog"...same as a mud minnow? Ours are a little greener/than the gold in the swim bait, buy yeah, pretty close.

This is as close as I've seen to the Storm in the store in a soft plastic; in hand it's actually a little lighter than the photo. It is a saltwater assassin color pattern ("panhandle moon"). I have some but have never fished them much and can't really comment one way or the other. That tail doesn't generate as much motion as I like : )

I've used my share of assassins, but mostly in the fresh water. I know people here speckled trout fishing that use assassins regularly and swear by them. I think they have something going for them despite the tail, and the action of the retrieve puts that in play. I've caught a lot of fish on them hopping them out of the water and doing the top water twitch, and a more aggressive tail wouldn't hop out so cleanly. Just postulating. I haven't been using them since I discovered Gulp, though, and my old stand by the Super Fluke sits in the bags and boxes. Flukes and Jerk Shads have a do nothing tail themselves, and also caught and catch plenty. The Gulp shrimp we]ve been using also just has a flat tail, so I've now tied myself in a knot trying to figure it out.

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I've always liked the assassins that the tail goes down to a point. They seem to have the craziest action.

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My favorite bridge rockfish lure, by far. But, they don't hold up well if bluefish are around. BKDs are really nice too.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

They don't hold up well to anything. I got 4 bit in half last weekend. I'm assuming trout but honestly with how that plastic is I wouldn't be surprised if it was a drum.

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Thank you!

Mummichog / killifish = mud minnows from what I've read over the years. I'm sure there are a variety of species all called the same thing.

I only called that color combo mummichog because the bunker / menhaden imitations I tie are white and olive with a splash of pink and chartreuse. The lure you posted looked more brown / pearl to me. I've seen "mud minnows" from several different colors of all olive to black and olive, black and pearl, brown, brown and white and the very coolest that I found in NC, an olive variety with a bright orange belly and white tipped fins. Of course I'm going way into semantics here, but I'm a nerd when it comes to marine life, so I digress. Throw a fly or a lure in a natural color at a fish and if properly presented, 60% of the time it works every time.

I like hearing the opinions on fishing colors from anglers all over because it is so interesting to see what we each have confidence in, like your red eyed jig head with brown and orange and blue flash. I love doing unique color combos like that and it makes tying even more interesting.

If anyone else has some specific color combo they love, post it on here and I'll turn it into a fly.

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Flyguy, have you ever read the book, "The Feather Thief" by Kirk Johnson? Your tying reminds me of this historical event(s), very interesting and worth your time if you can fit it into your schedule.

If it ain't orange, it better be maroon...and if it ain't maroon, it better be soon!

Heard about this on a podcast. Very interesting story.

Have not read the book but did listen to the podcast. Guys that tie traditional salmon flies are nuts. Guys that tie traditional salmon flies with original materials are off the reservation. That guy is seriously off the reservation with the stunts he pulled.

I prefer to use more common materials, though lately I've been tying with black bear.

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I agree, and I like how you put it: "off the reservation". I can't imagine how controlling that hobby and habit became, an obsession really.

Your creations look great, kudos to you. I personally have never fly-fished, so my appreciation for your work is from an amateur's eye, but boy they look hard to make, very tedious. It must be very gratifying to catch a fish using something you made by hand. Cheers!

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Thank you, I really appreciate it. They aren't difficult, and most people can learn fairly easily. The toughest part is the use of the least amount of thread possible and proper tension. I couldn't begin to count the hours I've put in fly tying for 25 years. Thousands?

I'm pretty addicted to it, though I don't do it nearly as much in the summer as in the winter.

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Anyone know any good boats to go out on in the Ft. Lauderdale area? I'm going to be there for a week and am trying to out out at least once.

Had to stay at home this week figured I'd get some boat cleaning done since it's been in the boat yard for the past month....I really enjoy buffing things into a mirror

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Short report because I can't keep my eye lids open. Got down to Cape Lookout yesterday, headed straight to my favorite flat. Another gill netter on it. Sigh. Poled it for an hour an a half regardless. I was ten seconds from moving to a new spot when I saw some shrimp jumping out of the water. Nice red was lit up, looking for them. My fly landed five feet to the left of him and he crushed it. 27" on the dot. Drank 10 white claws to celebrate and watched an incredible sunset.

Today I found albies but they were eating snot and not staying up. Did some serious exploring, I bet I covered 100 miles today. Rode my boat from the tip of Cape Lookout all the way through Beaufort Inlet, up the ICW to near the end of the Neuse. Found some bait and threw a pop-n-fly with a special clouser on it. Monster redfish appeared underneath of it only 10 feet from the boat, but wouldn't eat. Almost gave me a heart attack. Easily a 40inch plus fish.

Guiding the next two days.

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Guided 8.5 hours today at Cape Lookout. Client was a nice guy with a brand new $1000 fly rod combo. Told me he could cast 80-100 feet. Right then and there I knew he sucked. I've cast 80 feet maybe 10 times in my life when it mattered.

Worked with him and got him able to fairly consistently cast 25-30 feet. That was all we needed. I was lucky as shit the wind and weather cooperated or it would have been a LONG day. He hooked 14 albies and broke off the first 8. He was just insanely hard headed and wouldn't take any of my advice / coaching to get the hookup and fish in the boat. Finally it kind of clicked and he landed the next four and a half albies. All 3 pound fish pushing twenty inches, like footballs. I say half because he wouldn't put a ton of pressure on the fish and one paid the price boat side. I was leaning over the gunwale and about to grab it when a five foot blacktip decided it was time for lunch. I still have all of my fingers. If I had been fly fishing today, no doubt I would have caught 40-50.

Looked for redfish, none to be found. Tried to fish a few trout holes but he still couldn't get the fly out past 25 feet. Back at it again tomorrow with the same guy.

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Damn sounds like fun and a good day. Ever tried for a blacktip on the fly?

I've always lived by the simple phrase

If you have to say you're the best, you're not.

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Yes. Hooked one around 8 feet long. I broke it off quickly after realizing it wasn't the smartest idea. I was by myself in rough water in a little Carolina Skiff. I'd prefer one in the 4-5 foot range.

They can be caught down here in Cape Lookout and I've seen several already in the past few days.

That's a good phrase to live by.

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I just wanted to have the 200th comment cuz I'm weird like that. Carry on.

If a tree falls in Scott Stadium does it make a sound?

Was down at Kitty Hawk with the family this past Wed. to Sun. and that offshore hurricane had us all screwed up. Wind and surf were nasty Wednesday and Thursday. It also had the fishing pretty much shut down through Saturday. We fished near the house Thursday and Friday and fished off of Ramp 4 on Saturday and there weren't many fish caught by anyone at all really. I had a fish finder rig out about 90yds and a small double drop in the first break most of the day Saturday and never got a bite. We tried mullet heads, shrimp, Gulp shrimp, and sand fleas in about every configuration fish-able. I saw one puppy drum caught and finally managed to entice a 18" flounder on a White Gulp swimin shad but that was it for the trip. My dad stayed through yesterday and said the bite was picking back up a little though and managed a couple small blues throwing metal at bait fish schools as far as he could chuck it.

Hit the mobjack hard this weekend but couldnt find the drum this go around tides were wacky and the wind kept me from running out too far to see if they had moved out atleast. No full moon mightve played a slight role since last weekend was a full moon and a morning evening tide that seemed to be a big factor. Still got into a ton of small specks and some larger grey trout as well a few up to 15" and lost a couple of bigger ones of course. Was more focused on getting the pup ready to ride and hunt out of the nucaone come waterfowling time so the fact we didnt flip with all my gear in tow was an added bonus. One thing I learned bigger bait equals bigger fish and helps deter the wee dingers that were everywhere also switched from Gulp to Zman scented paddle baits and found the bigger fish that way, the little guys couldnt destroy the tail on the Zman and the bigger fish still got the 5 inch bait easily.

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Wind finally gave us a break, though the heat didn't. Today was try new lure day featuring pearl/chartreuse gulp shrimp and z-man stuff.

Fishing was slow; picked up two small flounder on the gulp; I DO like the DOA jig head for holding the gulp shrimp. Zman shrimp were unimpressive. However, the diezel minnow in the redfish toad color on their trout eye head did relatively well...2 flounder, a trout, and a red. Definitely a keeper lure/pattern.

Wound up keeping a 15" flounder and a 19+ redfish. Mrs. Dave is pleased.

I've tried the zman shrimp a little but didn't have success either. Thanks for the report. Pretty work as usual!

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Strange, I've had success with the Z-Man shrimp. I have also tried gulp shrimp on DOA jig and that has worked well for me. You need a little bit of weight to get action on those shrimp.

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The Zman shrimp have been useless so far on my end they just dont compare to the gulp. But as you said the swimbaits aint too bad the electric chicken color worked well for trout for me this weekend be interested to try a few other colors as well. Gonna see if I can find someone who sells the trout eye jig heads around here I havent found them at bass pro or greentop yet.

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everyone has the heads here...both chains and local shops. I didn't realize they made tails until y'all talked about them.

As y'all know better than I, the 4" diezel minnow is really light, flexible and buoyant. So I could fish it slower and get a lot of action. The "redfish toad" color is nearly identical to Slayer's "houdini" coloration. Slayer has great action as well but the 3.5" Slayer sinks much faster. I can see using one or the other depending on time of year and how deep/fast I'm fishing.

Top photo is the 4" diezel and the 3.5" slayer

Bottom photo is the 4" diezel and 4" slayer (houdini/chart.) on two different sizes of trout eye

That houdini/chart is the color combo I've been looking for I have a swimbait that kills it in that color on a popping cork but its some old DOA styled thing. After messing with them all weekend long I dont think scent has alot to do with it since the Zman 5 inch paddlerz put consistent numbers and better size in the boat than the gulp but its still early days. My friend down there doesnt fish with gulp and uses scentless stuff and gets plenty of good fish. Still dont discount the gulp its a fish magnet and still my go to. Definitely found bigger hooks help regardless so the top bait looks great.

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That is a really big tail for a smaller profile. Obviously works tho. I follow Slayer on social media and there's always nice fish being posted.

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It is indeed; probably twice the surface area of some brands. The angle of the paddle is also pretty square to the body, i.e., less efficient in terms of drag, so you get a lot movement and vibration from the tail even without a fast retrieve. Most of my retrieves are with the current, and I want as much movement engineered into the design as possible.

I caught a lot of trout on that 3.5" tail last fall paired with the trout eye head, enough to feel very good about that combo.

Finally, Slayer is based out of Jax Beach and I'll support local business folks when I can. I don't personally know Chris but he works one on one with several of the local mom-and-pop tackle folks. They haven't trashed him yet. If he screws up, his stuff will be off the shelf pretty quick.

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Yep, that was emphasized to me about fishing in creeks where there is a good amount of current to retrieve with the current because that's how the bait fish are moving. Saltstrong puts out some good quality videos. That was a good explanation.

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I don't think scent matters unless the bait rests in one place.

I beg to differ. It has been proven to me in my experience with many different species, fresh and salt. Scent may not always matter, but I know that it does matter.

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Oh, no doubt...I'm obviously an avid proponent of gulp. I just think the recent wave of scent on soft plastic tails, lures that typically draw reaction/ambush strikes, are catching more fishermen with the scent than fish.

They sell them at green top but they were sold out the last time I looked at the summer sale.

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Theyre always out of stock on their hooks and weights I've gotten tired of going there and leaving empty handed so I get that stuff from bass pro now. They have good prices on bulk hooks and bullet weights there so I stick with em.

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It just seemed like the trout eyes were sold out. I've seen them lower in stock the other times. Just shows that people prefer them as a jighead I guess.

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If yall are looking to pass the time Steve Rinella who's a fantastic outdoorsman and cook, host of meat eater, has a series on youtube called das boat. It's great. They take a cheap jon boat and make some modifications as they haul it all over the south east fishing flats, rivers, lakes etc.

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Yea it's pretty cool. April Vokey is involved too I think. If you don't know who she is, well, she's one of my future ex girlfriends.

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Woke up this am expecting a light south wind and albies. Got a medium west wind, which is the worst wind here. Tried to go ocean side, it was less than pleasant in Pretty Fly. Tides were lower than they were supposed to be. Hit lots of inshore spots and zilch. I was getting antsy. Client was saying it's fine, he wanted to go home early. I didn't want to cut the trip short at 2.5 hours into an 8 hour trip however. Made a LONG run to Drum Inlet, hoping for blues, spanish, albies and guessing the wind would be less there. I was right on the wind, not on the fish. Fresh out of ideas and a nearly low tide, I parked on a newly formed sandbar and told him to take a five minute walk and look for sea shells while I scoured my Navionics app for wind and tide and fishable water. He came back with a conch shell. I came up with a bright idea to try a little bay I had never fished and no confidence in, having driven past it dozens of times. Pulled into said bay 20 mins later and thought, "hmmmm, nice looking sod bank and hole there, try a cast with this jig." Client makes the cast and Wham. Sometimes better to be lucky than good. Over the next hour he caught 15 trout up to 17" and 7 puppy drum to 14". Lost several more boat side and literally had a bite every cast. Saved the day. 5 hours into the trip, he looked at me with a smile and said "I'm tired, time to go home." I said alright and back to the ramp. Dropped him off, came back and fished it for two hours. Not a single hit. Couldn't believe it. I thought for sure I was going to go crazy on these fish with the fly rod. Tide had finally bottomed out. Since there is great debate here about what jigs and grubs to use, the fish wanted a DOA clear grub with black and silver flakes on a chartreuse 1/4 ounce jighead. No special names, special smells or special sauce. Client refused to try the fly with the wind and was probably more likely tired of hearing me correct his endless casting mistakes. Oh well, he enjoyed it.

I ended my day hitting a secret creek that floods onto some grass flats, rare area for tailing redfish round here. Saw two. Buck fever ensued, I spooked one. Hooked the second and he broke me off. That noise you heard about 5:54 p.m. was my blood-curdling cry when the tippet popped. Pro Tip: Always double check your leader / tippet prior to fishing, especially if a client has been using it. I know there was a nick in the line and that's what caused the lost fish. Went to a second flat just at dark but the mosquitos got the best of me. Back at it again manana!

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what is a sod bank?

edit: anyone? I really don't know what a sod bank is.

Basically where grass and dirt meet the water. Generally, you'll see green grass on top and mud on the side of it.

Google sod bank and look at the images. There's a lot on there

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thanks

Anyone happen to know the waters around Fripp Island SC? Last minute plans to head there this weekend with the boat. Big drum should be running through just don't know anything about that water.

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Nope but looking at the aerial, the biggest challenge may be too many choices...SIX, count 'em SIX, cuts to the ocean in a relatively short stretch?!? It ought to be awesome.

Lol yeah....was hoping to have someone narrow down which of the 6 would be most productive right now.

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Fished from the surf years ago and caught a few fish, including a saltwater catfish which I didn't know existed at the time. From what little I saw the shoreline was very diverse and the section I was fishing was a huge flat where the water moved hundreds of feet with the tides adjacent to a nice channel with some rocks scattered around. I know it's not much but like said above it looked fishy in my limited experience. I don't think there's a ton of public access as where we were was private beach houses.

Welllll...no big drum. Found massive schools of bait busting. With 4 on th eboat we attacked them just about every way I knew how. A fluke, a swimbait, a mirrolure, and a skitterwalk. Could not pull whatever was raking the bait out of there. I did manage to hook into the largest stingray I've ever seen. Took about 30-45minutes to get it up. estimate it was 6-7 feet nose to tail, 4.5+ feet wing to wing.

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did you bounce any gulp in the creeks?

No we didn't stay in the creeks too much and focused on the inlet, the creeks were just hard to fish 4 out of the boat in the tight space. I managed a couple small trout on a DOA 3" swimbait.

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ordered some of those Texas eye jigs...back ordered 'til Oct/Nov.

Yeah...I get them at my local shop but they charge out the ass for them. I generally buy as many as I can when they're there.

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I think they're made up your way.

There are a few in stock on line but $hipping is nuts. I don't fish weedless that often and there are other options...I can wait.

I am the absolute newbie fisher. I don't even have a tackle yet. I didn't fish much as a kid but would like to take my son fishing at some local ponds (northern VA). What are the most basic tips for pond fishing? Live bait? Fake stuff? Bobber? I literally know nothing so any "dumbed" down answer will be better than expert fish terminology. Thanks!!

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earthworms or crickets under a bobber; or, if patience is in short supply and staying busy is important, a small tube jig or grub under a bobber. learn a couple basic knots. practice casting ahead of time.

check and see if there is a local club or organization that offers a beginners fishing class or opportunity; or find a friend that knows what they are doing. if the latter; be VERY appreciative of said friend.

Red wigglers work well but a cricket hooked just behind the head and out the back suspended below a bobber works great and crickets are cheap at most bait shops. Just depends where youre fishing to adjust the depth of the bait so its where the fish are they wont travel to the bait as much as you want it right in their faces especially sunfish theyre not shy as long as you get it close. Weed lines and lilly pads are good places to get along those edges and let the waiting game commence. If you can fly fish at all that can be better for the shorter attention spans or as dave said above a good multi-colored tube jig works well with a light light weight in it. I like blue top with white and pink skirts for that and just jig it up a foot or two and let it sink close to the bottom and repeat all the way in. Or a sometimes fool proof bait is a small crankbait worked steady or jerked around works great. https://www.outdoorlife.com/best-baits-15-hottest-lures-panfish/

Some good recommendations in that article like the cricket crank. Small square bill shallow crankbaits can be fun just watch the hooks.

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blue w/ white is killer. black w/ hot pink or black w/ blue....also killer

I hope VT plays football better tonight than the fishing has been the last three days because it has SUCKED.

Wednesday and today, fantastic conditions. A few small ladyfish, lizards and one small grouper came to hand over those two days. Man it's hard guiding clients when it is like that. Terrible conditions yesterday but we explored a lot of new water and saw some cool stuff.

Four more days of fishing, the conditions look good. Fishing with my buddy and his dad for fun. Honestly, I could use a break and would prefer to just sit on land and get some work done / watch college football. Unless of course the fishing turns on...

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This will be a good year to fish on saturdays and avoid the silliness that is the football team. This forum can turn ugly due to the state of things this threads a nice change of pace from the negativity everywhere else right now.

We caught our first few lizardfish in and around piers on the mobjack theyre some weird fish to say the least.

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Fishing sucked Saturday. We found some spanish in Drum Inlet but they wouldn't stay on. 12" puppy drum came to hand on a Gulp.

Sunday..... my oh my, it was just one of those days. The slickest "cam" I have ever seen it across the shoals, which is usually standing 5-8 foot waves. There were hoards of 4-6 pound bluefish crushing bait in 5 feet of gin clear water. It was magical. Don't know how many the three of us caught over 2.5 hours when it was on, 50? Spin and fly. They were a lot of fun on my six weight. We kept 12 for smoked bluefish dip, which I'll probably have for the next 10 years. There were also spanish mixed in and Dusty and I both landed 30" Spaniards on fly. Kept five of those.

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After it died down I decided it was time I try for a shark. They were all over the place in 4-5 feet of water on the back side of the waves. Super spooky around the running boat. I got follows on three different flies but no takes. The 4th fly was a big rabbit strip concoction I had made years before specifically for sharks and hadn't ever been used. The first blacktip I cast to turned and inhaled it. I set the hook, he shook his head and the fly came out! Holy shit, he actually ate it. I guess the fly didn't set because of their teeth? Who knows.

Ten minutes later a shot at a second fish. I lead him by a lot as they seemed to spook if the fly hit the water too hard. I'm stripping in and he finally sees it and attacks. Open mouth, 20 feet away, I can see the white of his teeth. Six footer I'd guess. Wham, strip set, fish on. I look down and despite being barefoot, notice I'm standing on the coils of fly line which suddenly becomes tight as the massive fish takes off. The line ripped around my ankle three times and across my toes, down in between them and around one. The shark was hauling ass off and suddenly the fly line going around my leg was 80 pound braid that I use for backing. Holy hell, it was literally burning and tearing my skin. This lasted maybe ten seconds, as I simply clamped down on the braid against the grip and the fish broke off, taking my brand new $100 fly line with him. I fell down on the boat, pain shooting through my leg but more pissed that I didn't properly manage the line. Fuck fuck fuck. It was insane. We took about a 30 minutes break and I rerigged the 10 weight with a backup line. Back at it, I had a few more shots, but the sharks were refusing again. Other boats pulled up near us and you could tell they were spooked. We headed back in to ice down our fish.

Drank a few beers and returned back out to the shoals and went to the East Side. Found some huge schools of greenies or greenbacks as I've heard them called. 6-10 foot spinner sharks jumped through the air. Various spoons and jigs got cut off quickly by sharks or monster spanish. I was trying to find bull drum on the bottom but no luck. Finally I chuck a small stingsilver spoon into the mass of bait and snagged one. As I was dragging him out back to the boat, two sharks rushed behind it, fins out of the water pushing massive wakes. I yelled for the other guys to watch, it was one of the coolest sights ever. One shark ate the bait and my spoon and I figure I was going to be immediately cut off. Nope, it was hooked and stayed on. He did a serious line burning run taking most of my 200 yards of braid. I was undergunned with a medium fast 7 foot rod and 4000 series Penn. Long story short, we followed that shark around for 30 plus minutes and finally leadered him next to the boat. The spoon was hooked perfectly in the corner of the sharks mouth. My 40 pound leader held, as did the crazy alberto knot and TWO blood knots I had used to lengthen the leader. I wanted to drag the shark aboard for a photo but probably wise not to. It was at least a 6 foot blacktip. How much it weighed, I dunno, 100 plus pounds?

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We followed the bait balls around more and got further broken off. I tried casting with a fly rod at another 20-30 sharks and had one eat but again, the hook didn't set. I will admit I was a bit timid and really focused on the line under my feet after the last incident. That could have cost me.

On a sucky note, running in between bait balls I decided to be lazy and didn't stow my new $600 fly combo. Well, like an idiot, I didn't hold onto it well either and it is now on the bottom of the Atlantic. That sound you heard yesterday evening around 5 p.m. was me dropping F bombs.

Found some more spanish macks on the way in, smaller ones. We got back at dark after a great sunset.

Today, blowing 25 again. Getting some work done on the couch, likely back to RVA tomorrow. I am hell bent on landing one of these sharks on the fly and am going to research some better tactics to do it.

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Finally back to RVA. Tuesday, my friends left Harkers and I checked the weather. Low North wind on Wednesday, just had to stick around for that! Got some work done for the new job and continued eyeballing the weather. It never really got bad as they called for. I wanted to go back out and search for Albies, my friend Natalia wanted to try for bull drum in the Neuse. I ran by Cape Lookout Fly Shop and dropped some coin to Capt. Joe Schute on a new reel for my backup ten weight. Great guy, super knowledgeable and helpful.

We hit the Neuse and found the bait and had some great drifts. Armed with some local knowledge, we finally got a bite on a conventional popping cork. Unfortunately, he came unbuttoned for Natalia after a long line burning run. Got dark, epic sunset. On the way back in we hit dock lights. I had fished them Monday night and gotten 35 trout and a few reds in 3 hours with my friends while we pounded a case of Natty Light. That was fun, especially when a local jackwagon got really angry that we were casting to PINFISH off of his dock light. I don't know why, but cranky old men think they own the water (the ICW in this case) and it is just freaking hilarious to see them get so wound up, especially when I'm buzzed and have a tendency to push buttons. I really wanted to give him an earring with a 60 foot cast on my 6 weight, but I let him slide. Back to Tuesday night, the fish were pickier and Natalia and I stuck 12. I got 4 reds surprisingly, the biggest being 16". There was the shadow of a 24-25" fish in there but he would not commit and slid down deep after 3 of my casts passed his nose.

Wednesday we got a late start at 10 a.m. and it cost us. On the way out I run past a guy I kind of know and he tells me the Hook was full of hungry albies all morning, but they have shut down by now. We go searching SE and found some nice pods of albies that were SUPER picky. They wanted tiny snot. Hooked two on fly, I landed one and then let Natalia land one. She also hooked up on a small spoon but lost it. By noon there as only one good pod left and we were motoring up to fish it when a red Carolina skiff with two adults and two kids comes burning right through the school. They then proceed to turn around go right back through it three more times, pointing out the boiling fish and yelling about it, not even fishing. The parents weren't teaching their kids anything other than to be assholes. Speaking of boiling, my blood pressure was through the roof. I legit debated shooting a flare over their heads. The lack of respect and common sense is just astounding to me and it is a shame they aren't shark bait at this point. The school goes down and stays down. We head out to the shoals where there is a nice school of spanish. Three other boats tossing spoons in and catching fish. What rolls up? Five other boats, all trolling, all going right back and forth through the middle of the school. I couldn't be angrier. Trolling lures right through the middle of schools of spanish, albies, striped bass or whatever is the laziest, dumbest type of fishing ever and those who do it just flat out suck at fishing. (insert "Get Off My Lawn" gif) It benefits absolutely no one including the one doing the trolling. I'd love to ride my dirt bike through those folks' homes at dinner time and ask them if they mind. As you can imagine, the school goes away from getting run over.

I leave pissed off and we finally find some fish all to ourselves, albeit in the middle of the shoals past Shark Island. This means busting 3-5 pound blues, spanish and albies mixed in amongst 5 foot waves and some legit danger. We messed about for awhile in there before one close call with a large wave rolling up behind my boat and I decided it was enough. Landed 7 or 8 nice fish. Rode through the shoals and hit the east side, one other boat was out there. Searched out and chased bait balls for the next several hours. We hooked 4 giant 30 plus inch spanish and got two to the boat, one actually in the boat. I had a poor grip on the first one. Sharks chased bait balls and I had a few legit shots with the fly, got one to eat and completely blew the hook set. That was my chance for a smaller 4 footer on fly. Sigh. Still frustrated with myself at it. Getting ready to head back in around 5:30 and a 25 foot center console pulls up and asks me how to get through the shoals. The guy says he has been out offshore all day and doesn't know how to get through and get home. Long story short but we talk awhile, I realize he has no confidence in himself or his boat and I tell him to follow me. Hilarious, a 25 foot, deep hull CC has to follow a flats skiff through water the flats skiff has no business being in. On the other side, he gives me a thumbs up and heads home. As Wyatt says to Doc in Tombstone, I guess it was my good deed for the day. We anchored up in 5 feet of water in the cut where I had hooked up with the other sharks on Sunday and I bled out some of the mackerel and blues we kept to chum for Mr. Blacktip. Sat there for an hour with a fly rod and saw 5 sharks but the water clarity was shit and never had a clean shot. Called it a day and as we ran back in at dark between Shackleford and Beaufort I planted Pretty Fly on a sand bar in two inches of water on a falling tide. Didn't even see it cruising at 35 and looking into the setting sun. We sat for an hour and a half and watched a killer sunset and moon before finally making the last 4-5 miles into safe harbor in the pitch black, which was nerve wracking to say the least. Ate freshly baked spanish for a late dinner.

Today I woke up, went to the auto center and got a fresh tire on my spare which was looking old. Great thing I did because what happens on the way home.... I blow out a freaking tire on 95. Shocking, it's completely normal at this point for me to have some bullshit happen to my trailer. Oh well, I was prepared for it. Twenty minutes later and I'm back on the road. Life could be worse.

I am eager to sit on the couch all day tomorrow and do work on my laptop after putting 40 plus hours of run time on the Yamaha over the past two weeks.

Photos....

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Man, you do more in a day or two than I do in a month. Thanks for the report and appreciate your anger at the idiots out there we have to fish around to do our thing. I know that getting pissed isn't helpful, but how not to?
Glad you had so much success and at such a varied palate.

Edit: Props again for your photos.

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Thank you, life is short, I try to cram as much in as possible. The idiots are just infuriating. I bit my lip but next time will not.

I appreciate the compliments on the photos, I love being able to share it and I'll admit I'm an attention whore.

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Life is, indeed, short. The idiots, though, seem to be multiplying at quantum rates as more and more people crowd our resources. My dismay at the crowds at National Parks and the changes the last couple of decades because of it, the increasing pressure on the New River that made guiding a chore both changed the way I live my life now. I sure am glad I was able to do what I did when I did it. We get crowded here during rockfish fever season, and between assholes with too much boat and the charter guys, it can be almost dangerous just schoolie fishing at times, but usually the big wide Bay is open enough for solitude and fish to still go hand in hand if you seek it out.

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Packing bags for the Midwest bottom corner of North Dakota for a week leaving the tackle and rods behind since there's no waters aside for the small odd ponds in the prairie. Question is we're gonna be pheasant hunting and was wondering if anyone has used their feathers for trying flies before and debating whether to keep any from our trip or not.

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One of the more ubiquitous trout flies is the pheasant tail nymph. As the name implies, the tail feathers feature prominently. I'd save them all if it were me. Enjoy the trip!

Yes, the entire skin of a ringneck pheasant is very useful.

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The skin or feathers? Gonna pull as much as I can while im there if anyone wants any I can mail some once I'm back in VA. Only thing I know in it all is that theres an absurd amount of feathers on these birds so they can get through the nuts ass winters they get.

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I'd imagine he means the entire skin with feathers attached. Easier to manage a "pelt" for lack of better term than thousands of loose feathers.

Never done that before cant imagine the skin smells good guess if I package them with some baking powder to help neutralize the scent. We usually atleast keep the wings that way so we can use them to train the dog cant see how that wouldnt work for the skin as well.

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Borax.

Bingo.

If you're just going to save some feathers, the tail feathers are the best.

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It'll depend on how our puppy does with not chomping them up as young'ns tend to do the first time so we will see I'll save and bring back whatever I can without making a mess and see what we have.

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Consider the time spent doing the whole thing. You can buy an entire skin for $13

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Flyguy is the obvious arbiter of such things, but I'd say you keep them, keep them all. At least a fair representation of them. If you aspire to tying flies, it's fun to have your very own stash, and while I'll admit that I only used a very few pheasant feathers in my limited tying days, I did have some, but my fly pursuits were also limited and pheasant didn't figure in. I did tie some pretty cool jewelry things like earrings and pins with them.

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Flyguy is the obvious arbiter of such things

I have been called a lot of things in my life and arbiter is not one of them until now.

*checks dictionary* /s

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So my fiance was kind enough to get me a day on the Jackson river next spring so maybe I'll have a chance to use some pheasant feather flies there as a nymph or something. Gonna be a DIY trip so we shall see if I can figure it out but some unique stuff might help.

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Any reports from over the weekend in the Bay?

Friend of mine did very well early Saturday morning on specks and several striped bass to 24" on menhaden colored flies and lures. Pretty sure he was fishing the Rapp.

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Went today. Windy. Got fish off of every dock we fished in the North except one. Nothing big, nothing exciting, but we got bit all day, spike trout, a few nice reds up to 15+ and a handful of stripers up to 18+. Fun, but a lot of boat work for me with no trolling motor. Wind was relentless.
Oysters and mussels and mako shark tacos at the Hole in the Wall restaurant on Gwynn's Island with old and dear Hokie friends. Good day.

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Thank you. I will be guiding there on Friday and plan on hitting the North for a lot of the trip

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Schools of puppies are all around the East but even when people see them they are having trouble getting them to bite. Some specks still as well. Also heard of some specks and schoolie rocks into the Rapp.

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Cool, thanks

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My trouting neighbor and fellow Hokie was in the Piankatank yesterday morning. All they got was specs. They had 5 between 17-19", and four smaller ones. No reds, he said they missed (lost?) a couple of rockfish around some rocks. Our fish came from the docks I described to you a little while back. Wind made our fishing half assed, but the reds were up under in the shade, and the trout were not all right on the docks, but in their vicinity. The stripers were near the corners, especially the inside corners of the more complicated docks. Only saw one other boat fishing a dock, and they were anchoring up along the looooonnnng dock on river right at the mouth of the North. We only made a few casts, figuring they'd already fished our side of the dock, but only got one spike trout before giving up in the breeze. The grass flats at the mouth of the North were not worth the effort because of the wind. Could've used a skiff and trolling motor and we'd have done much better, I think.
Good luck to you this Friday.

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I will check it out, thank you!

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Heading to Nags Head on Wednesday for the Nags Head Surf Fishing Tournament. Looking forward to it. Two days of fishing, four three hour sessions on randomly selected beats. Unfortunate forecast, wind-wise though. Hope to find something to get us in the running, but I feel like it'll be the luck of the draw. Will report when it's over. Our team is the Tidewater Backlashers. Pull for us, folks.

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Good luck! I'm headed down to Southern Shores tomorrow evening for 5 days of surf fishing. Out of curiosity, for that part of the OBX, what wind is best this time of year? I assume E or NE?

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E/NE for drum and spot. My experience NW for bluefish and trout. But, it is ripping NE for the next two days... probably to hard for much fishing to be successful.

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I finally will be back on the water next week. I will be fishing the Oceans East Billy Sydnor Memorial Drum Tournament on October 19-20. I plan on getting down there Thursday and making bait on Thursday and Friday. It looks like I will fish Jennettes Pier since Avalon is a stub.

Hopefully I can put a drum or two on the board, but I haven't been doing any casting with all my travels. I picked up a nice little 525 Mag to compliment my Squalls, and if I have the leftover cash I may pick up one of those new Fathom 2's.

After the tournament, my parents are coming down the 20th-27th. I will be fishing every day but I am going to focus more on fishing with dad for puppy drum, spot, sea mullet, and whatever else is around. He has mobile O2 now, so I am going to work within the parameters that provides me.

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Finally got my hands on few of the Texas Eyes...nice alternative to the weighted offsets for weedless...ready for the wind to stop blowing to give them a try

Nice....I have to restock now my dad lost 6 of them before i gave him some cheaper jig heads to throw into the grass and oysters

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I have to restock now my dad lost 6 of them before i gave him some cheaper jig heads to throw into the grass and oysters

Welcome to guiding!

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ouch!

I saw these in the Neuse Sport Shop and almost got some. Also saw some that were jointed so the head moved separately. Looked pretty cool.

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These are the jointed ones. They're great with swim baits but I really like them with shrimp plastics that generally have no real motion to them it give them a little wiggle.

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hadn't really thought about using them with shrimp but makes total sense! especially when it gets cold.

Yup give it a shot if you've got the right size shrimp/hook. Just adds a little to the bouncing retrieve.

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Dave, what is this color combo called?

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I believe thats the pilchard color diezel minnow that color kicked ass for everything in florida.

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Pinfish

I've got a sweet Pinfish colored Deceiver

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I like the teal flakes...surprise...lol!

Not the color scheme, but a pinfish none the less. I'll have your color scheme done this evening

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Random question for you fishermen folk: What is the best fish for me to buy that I can just cook whole and eat off the bone?

I don't eat much fish off the bone, but baked crab-stuffed flounder is good.

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Hell yeah! Heading to the crystal coast here in 2 weeks and hope to catch and fix some this exact way. Oh, wait...

Oh pick me. Whole roasted fish is my favorite meal. In theory you can do it with any fish but from my experience larger fish are better as the bones are easier to pick out. I've done this with everything from snapper to rainbow trout. I'm not a big salmon fan but I know people love whole salmon.

Store bought your best bet is probably finding a snapper or grouper. I like to half a lemon put it inside and a little butter and roast it on the grill. Also big fan of creamy mushroom sauce.

Edit: forgot my all time favorite that is usually available in a fresh seafood store. Black sea bass. They're smaller but imo it's the best way to prepare them and they're delicious.

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I would pick rockfish or rainbow trout. Chop the head off, gut it, and bake them with whatever your preferred seasoning is. Rockfish is good stuffed with crab meat as well.

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I like the head on honestly. Crunchy goodness.

I've heard of good results with big snapper and grouper as well. I never got to try it, but an Italian restaurant in Pearisburg (of all places!) used to serve a baked fish that was encrusted entirely in a shell of salt. The waiter would break the shell and remove the bones at the table. Looked and smelled great, but then the place was, errr, I mean accidentally burned down and I haven't seen the dish on any other menu I've seen. Not sure what the fish was, but maybe a google search of Italian fish dishes would turn up suggestions.

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Depends on how you want to cook it. If it does not cook evenly the bones will stick where the flesh is over/under cooked and be harder to separate. If you are using high heat (hot grill, cast iron or deep-fry), you want a smaller fish to cook through without burning the outside. I like sardines or small trout - salt or fresh water, or a small snapper. If you are cooking at moderate heat over a grill (350), thicker skin helps its cook evenly - large trout, small tile fish, salmon, etc. For oven roasting a thicker bodied fish with something to trap the steam - cased in salt, a roasting pan, wrapped in foil, etc with redfish, grouper, snapper or rockfish. Especially important to stuff the cavity with seasonings for this method, as it penetrates the fish well, and add some steaming liquid if using a roasting pan or foil wrapped. This method actually works for almost all fish, but the other methods give me problems with thick fish with thin skins.

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

Perfect!

Both of those are beautiful. If i were a fish, I'd hit that. I really like the shape of the 1st one, interesting.
PHRASING!!!

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Here's another photo of what a citation spanish mackerel looks like. #humblebrag

It did not fight as well as I expected.

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Oh and in case anyone is still wondering about my incessant trailer adventures, $600 worth of axle, hardware and springs ordered this morning. Going to upgrade to 15" wheels too. Plan to install it all in a week and a half, before a trip to Louisiana. Hopefully this stops the madness!

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Beaut fish! Spanish mac smoked dip is great stuff!
Your costs seem about right for the trailer upgrade, when i did my dual axle upgrade, replaced all galvanized w aluminum, and new axles, it was a grand in material costs. You'll be happy.

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I'm going to be a millionaire when I figure out how to make an durable boat trailer. So far the closest anyone has come.is vortex hubs on torsion axles and even that rusts like hell eventually

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Continue to get great reports out of the Rapp and Piankatank. Reds and stripers up to 24". My client yesterday couldn't cast very well, landed 10 fish up to 20" in the North and East Rivers. A better fisherman would have whacked 'em.

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Well, I'm back...didja miss me? No? Didn't think so. My wife claims that she did, but I know my puppy did.

The OBX the last few days was a miserable place to fish, and the tournament suffered as a result. I won't go into the specifics, but the winning team caught 10 fish that scored. Our illustrious team, only one of which I'd met before, didn't fare nearly as well. First day, I was the only one to get a bite, and mine could have been birds hitting my line in the foul weather. Wind and spitting rain, cloudy and chilly, I was in waders and 5 layers on top and was barely comfortable. Miserable day. Yesterday was a beautiful sunny day, but the wind was just as bad, and the surf was so high that the tourney was truncated from two sessions to one, and even that was called early as the tide was starting to hit the dunes and beach driving was getting perilous to those shiny $50,000 pickumuptrucks. I was the only one in our team to catch a fish. I got a minimum length bluefish to score our only point, then caught a short (15'') red. Two thirds of our 6 man team decided to bag the tourney and go home, leaving my buddy and I to our own devices. He'd also never fished the tournament and had thought our teammates were serious and avid, but not this time. They should have canceled the tourney, we barely had half of the planned time to fish, and high surf was just miserable and holding bottom was nearly impossible, even with sputniks. So, final results were that 46 teams caught a scoring fish, and we were in last place with only one point among those scoring teams. 34 teams didn't catch a scoring fish, and several hundred fisherfolks didn't catch a fish either day so I feel like I at least did a little bit for the "team", but will I fish it again? Just don't know. My blue came on finger mullet belly and the red on a finger mullet head. I didn't expect to win the contest, but I'm disappointed that when we had a small window of opportunity to catch fish, the team let us down. From talking to the judges (skipped the awards ceremony stuff to eat shrimp at the Red Drum) I believe bluefish were the main fish scored, but at least one decent trout and a sea mullet or two were also among the scoring fish. Today down there? Perfect. Oh well.

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Damn that sucks. This crazy tide has been wild. The dock put in at Gloucester was two feet above normal tide yesterday.

Wondering if the back side flats wouldn't have been good to blind cast across with all of that water down there

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We were limited to predetermined beats and had no choice of where to fish, but the tournament was a surf fishing contest, so we had no options.

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I've missed ya Fish. Sorry to hear the tournament didn't turn out that well. Definitely been some crazy weather. At least you didn't get stranded like some trucks and boats on Hatteras where there was washouts.

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High tides here as well but finally put my daughter's boyfriend on a slot red. His only bite of the day but made it count. Caught in the upper reaches of a creek on a bunker-colored storm wild-eye. Didn't see an exposed oyster until we went back in to the ramp.

edit: tried the Zman Texas eye early...throwing in the flooded grass/oysters with the diezel pinfish color. Undersized trout were readily hitting it but short striking...no hookups...switched to the Storm and picked up a 13" trout in a couple of casts but decided not to stay. Leaving that fast was probably a mistake based on how the rest of the day played out. My game plan was to take advantage of the latter half of a falling tide...one that, unfortunately, never really came.

State has put a kayak ramp next to an area that used to require a 20- 30 minute run. That is great for folks that don't have boats but that was one of the few really nice limited access/low current areas where someone could do a little work and get away from the crowds. There were 8 kayaks in my old favorite stretch of water yesterday. So I'll be doing some more exploring this fall.

That's a perfect red.

Speaking of fishing access, the Mill Creek put in at the mouth of the Rapp has completely filled in with sand and I'm told the state is going to leave it. This is going to make other ramps super crowded and a pain in the ass for me to access where I want to go quickly on guide trips, but hopefully make my secret hole right around the corner from it a little less pressured.

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I managed my first snakehead over on the eastern shore of Maryland today. I was actually a little disappointed in the fight. It ate a minnow fished on a fishfinder rig because it was too windy to free line or use a bobber.

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Well it's a Maryland fish, so clearly it is going to be weaker. #facts.

But seriously, well done.

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Man, I've been itching to get fishing since October started since that's usually our hottest month with the Tarpon, permit, and cobia running back south and using the beaches as transit areas. Since this is budget planning month, I finally had a small window today, only to get down to the beach on Marco this morning and find a 3 foot thick line of dead fish all the way down the beach.... Red tide is back and the FWC report looks like it's heavy in some areas. Some really nice snook mixed into the mess unfortunately. Hopefully this will clear up before they shut snook harvest down further south for next year or for even longer where it already is (through May 31 2020 so far, along with redfish and trout). Sad to see this.

Also praying that it doesnt start to affect the Pompano when they start coming back through.

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So I finally got a chance to go fishing off shore this fall. We ended up going to Hilton Head last week on vacation and I took a trip out on Tuesday.

According to the Captain, the waters were way too warm as we caught a majority of sharks. Spinner, fine tooth, bonnethead, and shinner.

The last fish of the charter was the elusive Red Drum.

Here was the big bonnethead.

Nice redfish! Never caught a bonnethead, cool looking fish. Thanks for the pics.

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My first of both species was that day. Ended up catching multiple Bonnetheads, but that first one was the biggest.

My home waters looks like you're at the HHI artificial reef that's just offshore or possibly the sound inlet.

Which charter did you go out with I know a good majority of them?

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The inlet for most of the day, but we probably started at the artificial reef. I was on the True Grit with Captain Jeff.

Do not know Captain Jeff. He is right thought catching the occasional bonnet head happens in October but the spinners, sharp nose, and smaller black tip should have moved off already. I'm afraid its going to be one cold snap and we'll lose the reds with the shark.

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Caught 9 smallies and missed an equal amount mid-day on the New yesterday. About 2 hours of yaking. They are all still up in the ledges feeding. Water temp is still up. I think this winter will be a mild one and the fish will be somewhat active. Just a hunch.

I've caught a lot of big smallmouth on the New in winter over the years. You aren't getting bit much, but the fish that do are usually worth the effort if you can stand the cold. They'll be in the eddies and on sunny days, they like it near rocks. Find the right eddy and you can find a big fish. On the bottom where they all were, we used jig n pig until tubes came into fashion. The fish are slow as molasses so super slow crawl and twitch. We used scents like smelly jelly and real craw and the like for a little help, and it proved to be helpful for us. Boat control is paramount for holding and the slow presentation to be done effectively, and safety takes a notch up on the consideration meter. Fish the mid-day, 10-3 or so to maximize the comfort, wear gloves, don't sweat the ice in the guides...sounds like fun, right?

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Appreciate the insight. I've been fishing the New for about 20 years now :) Caught plenty of 4lb and 5lb Smalls.

Sounds like you're dialed in for sure. Good luck! What do you fish out of in the winter?

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I usually just yak or wear 9mil neoprene chest high waders. You know that can get sketchy with the dam and all though. I've had to swim for it once before in March because the water came up on me and a buddy too fast. Had to let the waders go and swim all while having the breath knocked out of us because the water temp was so cold. Learned a lot that day, haha.

Ye be a hardier sailor than I, matey. We used a jet boat and bow mount before I got my raft. The peril was minimized, but not erased, as I can attest. I'd hate to have to use 9mm neoprene, can barely move in 5mm, but at least you survived immersion. Duck and goose hunting was my most dangerous use of winter boating, but I fished for smallmouth in weather most folks would've just put another log on the fire and tuned in to Bill Dance.

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Ha! Sounds like we've fished it in similar weather then! We were pretty lucky that day for sure. Surprisingly my biggest smallie ever came during those same frigid temps using black on black jig. My back doesn't allow me to do as much as I would like but, it seems once I'm out there I usually forget about the back pain for a bit. I'd love to have a jet boat. I have a few friends that have them so I just tag along with them. I never did any duck hunting but, I've fished beside fellas that were. What kind of raft set up do you have?

I left the New and sold my raft 7 years ago. When I was running trips, I had a Maravia Willy 2. Just shy of 16' long, 22" tubes, real whitewater craft. I had a custom frame, I sat in the middle with two 10' oars, fishermen in swivel seats fore and aft. I had an anchor rig I could deploy from my seat. Big boat, floated fully loaded in about 6" of water, but also a bit of a sail in wind. Best boat I've ever owned and it served me quite well.
I was only a short term duck hunter, really. Liked it a lot, but you need a partner in crime to do it and it isn't everyone's cuppa tea. Did all of that hunting from a canoe, but I did guide goose trips from my raft on the New.
I lived in Giles (Staffordsville) for 26 years before moving here to the coast 7 years ago.

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Hey Tom -

Not to high-jack the thread, but did you leave your raft out in the winter? I can't give up the garage to my wife and her car, so I usually deflate and put it in the basement. But I was thinking about leaving it out this year, and maybe hitting the river occasionally on some nice winter days.

Some people (as in online forum folks) say cold weather can really put a hurting on the rubber, but I don't think that it gets as cold in VA as it does out west where the majority of raft owners are.

No way to high-jack the fishing thread! Yes, I left my raft out, but I usually had a tarp on it. I kept it inflated, kept the frame on, and definitely used it occasionally in the winter for goose hunting or walleye floats above Claytor. I did a very small amount of winter smallmouth fishing, something that I'd about had enough of by my guiding years. I didn't let the raft deflate much, keeping its shape was important to me. My Maravia was a premium raft, though, and I never felt like I was harming it. I only had it 8 years, but it never showed any ill effects from winter. Snow worried me a little, with the resultant melt and then icing being a little worrisome, but I shoveled it off when I worked on the driveway, and tried not to let big ice form afterward. Summer took a greater toll with use and the sunlight, but like I said, it was a helluva raft.

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I appreciate the knowledge! I tarp mine too, so I think I am just going to get another 10 mil tarp off amazon and double layer it for this winter. Getting it in/out of the basement is probably more dangerous to it than leaving it out.

Yeah, I agree. Once I got my raft out of its shipping box, my raft stayed inflated with the exception of the two small patch jobs I did over the years for pin holes in the floor and one of the tubes. I also used that space age protectant stuff (forget the name) once a year to help protect the coating from UV damage.

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Good ol' 303 I believe is what you are talking about, and I use it throughout the year. Great stuff. I started using it on my truck's interior as well.

Took the raft off the trailer around June, and it bounced back from the rope and into the trailer, wedging itself up underneath it and puncturing the rubber. We were in a hurry and shouldn't have been (please take your time at boat ramps, no matter what hurry you are in) or else it would have never happened.

I patched it with TearAid - that stuff is the greatest invention since sliced bread and it ain't even close. Floated all day with a dime sized hole and no leaks. Permanent patch went on the next day, but man that Tear Aid worked wonders until then.

Yep, 303 it was. Never heard of TearAid, but was lucky enough never to have needed it. I saw some video of rafts blowing up out west on a Grand Canyon float, I believe, when the support staff forgot to let air out of the boats when they were beached at lunch. That stayed with me, for sure, and while I always kept my raft fully inflated for ease of rowing and skinny water floating, I was careful to let some of the air out as a hot sunny day progressed. Other than that, I never worried much about leaks. I did have a valve go bad once, but carried an extra valve with me and fixed it at lunch. I had extra everything from valves to an extra oar and blade.

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Fished Mobjack today with a friend. I continue to explore the North, East and surrounding edges and am finding some awesome creeks, coves and flats. A lot of water there and it seems to have less pressure than the Rapp or Piankatank. We found flats with puppy drum and 20 inch stripers with trout mixed in. Got my friend her first salty fish on fly, some stripers and trout. I whacked everything else in sight on various flies. Egyptian Mule Driver was the best fly of the day. Fish were busting topwater. It was a really good day. There are a lot of shrimp around and the fish are keying in on them. Trout are hitting Zara Spooks regularly in low light, confirmed by several others. As I was taking out, I was approached by a local who also had a Hewes and consequently sucked into conversation. He talked more than me (very hard to do) and gave a lot of info.... basically the Ware River is loaded with trout this year. Topwater has produced multiple 5 pound fish the past two weeks. He said he doesn't need to fish elsewhere because the river is so loaded. He kept showing off plenty of big trout pics despite me insisting I needed to hit the road. I fear this will be me at age 65, showing off fish porn to anyone who comes by. Speaking of...

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Debating fishing again tomorrow morning but I've got a lot on the to do list. Guiding out there Wednesday and Thursday. Air temps at night are dropping ten degrees for several days starting Wed night. This may drive the reds out, depending on how much the water temps drop. If these fish stick around, next year is going to have a lot of slotties.

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Those reds won't stick around, but I hope they come back next year. Trout are out there, but not all of them are that big. Also bodes well for the future of trout fishing here in the near future.

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Thanks for the report and info! Really need to get back out to Mobjack. Headed down to Wilmington to go for Blackfin/AJs on Sunday. Will try to get some fishing in Beaufort on Saturday.

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Two guys named Dave from Kansas for clients today. I warned them the weather would be rough. We shall go they said. It rained and was windy as hell out of the south and we got our asses kicked on the 35 minute drive back across Mobjack to Ware put in on the way back home. I got SOAKED. The younger of the two was a very good caster, the elder, not so much and didn't put a ton of effort in. Dave the younger stuck a Chesapeake Bay slam.

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Canceled tomorrow's trip due to big winds. Friday I may try to squeeze them in the morning, though I'm supposed to head to Blackoutsburg for the weekend Friday mid day.

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Nice job! I'll admit that I don't miss those "damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead" days from my guiding years, but it's really nice to see you turned a miserable day into a decent one, at least for that one guy. Good luck Friday if you go, I'll sit back and wait for better weather, but look forward to catching fish after getting my ass kicked well down in the OBX.

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Thank you. Eyeballing Poquoson for tomorrow but it looks like its going to be 10-15 N-NW, which isn't pretty. Got a good report of lots of redfish there.

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Can confirm. Buddy of mine was also seeing live shrimp about too, so bring out the skrimp-y flies.

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Thanks. Those reds are right against the grass banks trying to eat those shrimp.

I just told the client we aren't going. Gusts up to 22 won't be fun.

Blacksburg early tomorrow!

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Wind has been relentless here on the Peninsula. I take the James River Bridge everyday to Suffolk and haven't seen one boat all week.

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Concur. Add in the high tides and it's been a challenging week. I'm hoping to get out with 3rdGen on Monday since his AJ trip got canceled. We have some trout to catch, and there's been trout aplenty close by.

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For you, flyguy, and for anyone else who uses the ramp at Town Landing in Mathews, you have to pass within a hundred yards of my house going and coming. I am two miles from the landing and right in Mathews.
If anyone needs assistance of any kind, I'm close enough to help. My number is eight oh four, seven two five two six 8 oh. With all the boat/trailer problems we all seem to go through, should it happen near me, I'm ready to roll and usually available.

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Thank you for the offer, I really appreciate it. I considered leaving the boats and clients at that exact ramp, what I call Put In Creek, and somehow seeing if I could cab or Uber it to Glocuester for my truck but that would have been a serious ordeal. Besides, smooth seas never made for a skilled sailor.

By the way, that 18 inch redfish and 20 inch striper were caught 50 yards from that ramp.

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Not surprised by the catches near the ramp. I've caught a bunch of fish from the dock there at the ramp, and the docks just down creek have provided several nice fish over the years for me.
Write my number down, Chris. I'd have been happy to shuttle you back to Gloucester for your rig. Your clients would have had a bit of a wait, but I'd have been closer than any Uber and a lot more affordable. I understand why you didn't, but don't hesitate to call if it comes up again.
The ramp is indeed on Put In Creek, but is known as Town Landing. I live up near the top of the creek. It gets too skinny up this way, only a mile up creek, for most craft, but in a "real" emergency, your skiff could make it to within a hundred yards of my house and a neighbor's dock, so file it in the "just in cast" file and hopefully never need it. And as for the smooth waters thing, screw that. The rain had quit by then, right? Your clients weren't gonna learn any sailing lessons, and while it would have been shorter by boat, it'd have been quicker by land and a lot more comfy cozy for all concerned, but it looked like your guys were not afraid of a challenging boat ride. Anyway, way to turn a tough day into a winner!

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Well next time I'll just come over and pick you up from your front yard!

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Well, almost maybe sorta, you could if the tide were to go totally nutz. I definitely do not have waterfront property, but I can see Put In Creek from my kitchen windows most of the year.

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Narrow, hour and a half window this a.m. between sunrise and the tail end of a falling tide...after the weekend blow and before this week's crap weather coming, well, right now as I type this.

Had forgotten how much I love this little creek.

3 smallish slot reds (all under 21"), an undersize red and two undersized trout. I haven't seen this much concentrated bait in the water in awhile...little shrimp and small mullet everywhere. Everything was getting slaughtered before the tide quit...and I could hear as many blow-ups as I could see. Reds were acting like flounder; right on the bank smashing small schools of bait.

That's a houdini colored slayer tail on the trout eye head in the pic...also note the high tech measuring marks on the lid of the ice chest, lol.

Just got a text from French. No words, just a picture of him and a really nice big drum. I figure he'll chime in soon enough, but I'm sure he's happy as a clam.

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Awesome! I know the tournament he fished on the weekend. Only a single drum was caught for the win. Glad he got on the board. Especially he hasn't gotten much fishing time lately.

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He provided no detail, but I'm happy for him too. He deserves a good day after his fall so far.

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Yep. Pat Bracher caught one fish Sunday and won $2000 and a bunch of prizes. We fished Jenettes and had a guy who wasn't in the tournament catch a 46 incher on a spot chunk after being there 10 minutes. That was the only fish of the day.

Yesterday was rough, but the fish were chewing. I got one. Got another this AM despite it being flat calm. I am here until Sunday.

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oh my!

Another guy I follow down there said they were throwing 14 ounce sinkers to hold.... That's some serious tossing.

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Jake was throwing 14s and got one early. It calmed down. I got my first one with a 3 sided 8oz at around 11am.

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He stays on 'em. Saw Travis got a couple last night too.

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And another one! Pretty work!

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creek to table

Looks good enough to eat, but what's that slimy green stuff on the right? /s

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Sat at the edge of the New at McCoy Falls on Sunday nursing my hangover for an hour. Made maybe ten casts with the fly rod. It was really pretty out. Saw a juvenile bald eagle. No fish came to hand but the river looked great. School of thousands of shiners were right at my feet pushed against the bank. I had never seen that before and was surprised they weren't getting wrecked by smallmouth. I guess they were there for warmer water? There was a big snake sitting on a stick right in the current next to the shiners, he was probably putting the feed bag on. Had some pretty crazy markings, I'm guessing it was a Northern Watersnake.

Tomorrow I start replacing the trailer axle on the boat trailer. Wish me luck and listen for my cursing.

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Just got home this morning at 1 am from Atlantic Beach. Dad and I started fishing Saturday evening and the surf fishing was on fire up until I left yesterday evening. Tons of black drum, pompano, huge whiting. Yesterday morning we got into a few trout, 2 biggest being 22 and 24 inches. Also got into a school of blues that ranged from 3-5Ibs that hung around for around 30 minutes or so. The way the fishing was going I hated I had to leave so soon but work helps me pay my bills. He's still down there until Saturday if he gets on anything else impressive I'll pass it on.

Nice trip! I'd love to catch some trout like that when I'm down there.

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They were a very nice surprise, we'd been burning the whiting up on cut mullet just off the sand when we started picking the trout up. Easily my personal best.

24 inches is a citation trout, definitely something to be proud of. Did you get them all on mullet or did you get some on lures?

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So, my sister retired to Morehead City 2 years ago. We have yet to visit but need to do that at some point.

For you/others that know that area: what are the best months for surf fishing and inshore fishing?

September through early November IMHO. We seem to have developed a pattern of going down in October one year, May the next year. Seems it's hit or miss in May but usually always find something chewing during the fall.

do you have a boat or do strictly surf fishing?

Nope no boat for me yet just strictly surf.

Fall has been good consistently. Trout bite gets hot after the first cold front in October. You can wade fish at Radio Island Rock Jetty in November/December. It all depends on how mild the winter is. No freeze last winter, trout fishing has been great. Which can make trout fishing good in spring. Reds on the flats in the summer months. August/September is big for big Drum on Neuse River. HokieFlyGuy has more experience than I do

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Within 20 miles of Morehead, you can fish off of the beach or inshore year-round. It's all about finding the fish obviously. Sorry for the blah answer, but there is always something to catch at some point, somewhere.

If I had one month to fish, I'd take September.

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thanks!

If you have a trip coming up at any time frame, let me know, I'll get you some local info/reports and give you suggestions on what I think you should do when/where.

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nothing this fall, but I will definitely hit you up!

Nice! There was a huge trout run... all keepers... from Carova all the way to Oregon Inlet on Saturday. There may have been 45 keeper trout just laying there under the first flight waiting to eat when I walked out. Alas, I was fishing the tournament and went to the end. I probably saw 100 keepers caught.

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That's nuts. When it's hot it's hot

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I got a report of the fishing being on fire in Pamlico behind Hatteras. Lots of trout and some schools of reds.

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Might be headed down there this weekend. Thanks for the tip!

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My sauce wouldn't tell me where but he said find hard bottom / oysters and there should be trout on them.

Reds should still be on grass with these warm temps. I imagine that's where he has seen schools of them.

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Sounds good, I understand not giving away spots. Will only be able to wade so I'm limited

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Sending you a text

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Accurate on the trout front...

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Tons of black drum, pompano

In my book, these are the prizes that day. I love me some blackened black drum and grilled pompano with garlic/jalapeno butter.
Glad you scored, that's an awesome day!

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Fresh shrimp and mullet. Threw some metals and tinkered with gulp a little but didn't get any play. Saturday and Sunday the water was rough because of the storm and The real stuff was still producing so we just rode it out through yesterday.
Oh! Also if anyone is going to be using the store bought double rigs, the floats out produced the skirted rigs easily 5:1

If you're talking about fireball rigs, they get the nod from me. Best bluefish rig out there if you aren't slinging metal or lures.

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Here is the brief run down so far:

Friday- incredibly stiff NW wind in the AM. No drum. I left and got Jersey Mikes for lunch. When I came back, I scrapped out a nice catch of small spot for more baits.

Saturday- wind laid down. I was the first person at the gate. When the gentleman opened it, he told me there were "all the bluefish I wanted" at the first light. I stopped to look on my way out. It wasn't bluefish. 16-20 inch trout were stacked up- maybe 50 of them- all facing north. I was fishing the tournament and lines in were at 6AM. I trudged out to the end and watched all day while dozens of people got nice catches (4-6 each) of keeper trout. I saw at least 70 keepers landed, with several fish in the 24 inch class. Meanwhile, one guy got a drum on a spot chunk who wasn't in the tournament. If he had been, he would have won $2000. Only one fish was caught for the tournament, and the angler (Pat Bracher, who has a guide service in the Keys) had a smaller qualifying fish.

Sunday: A big front moved in. After fishing from 6AM to midnight on Saturday, I stayed in and hung out with my folks before going to the award ceremony. That evening, it laid down enough to fish. A handful of drum were caught. I wasn't lucky.

Monday: Big drum blitz, but rough conditions. Sharp north winds, 20plus at 6AM. 10oz were rolling badly. Jake got one using a 14 oz. As it laid down a bit and the tide dropped out, the bite turned on. Unfortunately, while I saw fish after fish landed, I had multiple line failures (Berkley Pro Spec is on the shit list) and shark attacks. I respooled my reel three times before landing a 46 incher on a spot head from Saturday. I don't know how many 40 inch plus drum were landed, but it was over 30.

Today: Fished from 6AM-1PM so I could finish the film review. I got a Fat 40 incher on my first cast. It was almost flat calm with muddy water. My parents came out early, so I stopped drum fishing around 10AM and fished for spot with my parents. I got a few spot and lots of short gray trout, black drum, and pinfish.

Tomorrow will be a half day (I have to return my rental car and Susie is joining us.) I will be out there 6AM-midnight on Thursday and Friday.

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Thanks for the report French! Interesting on the berkley pro spec failure. I use it and have only heard good things. Where did it break?

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It got weird little memory spots over and over and that was where the line broke. I have re-spooled multiple times. I am going to switch back to Suffix Tritanium 17.

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Interesting about Pamlico! Seen numerous schools or reds inside the bay in the lower inlets as well

NC inlets should be stacking up with the big boys right about now. If not now because of temps, very soon...

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Exciting to hear for sure! I miss the overslot action in the sound

Headed back to my home place this weekend to set up camp in the trifecta of fishing. Laurel Bed Lake, Big Tumbling creek, and the North Fork of the Holston. I'll be catching trout at camp and floating the other two Saturday and Sunday weather permitting. The big smalls down there should be pretty hungry right now. A lot of rain should have the river up and just colored enough to have a good bite. We will see how it goes!

My dad booked a kayak trip for us this weekend. I guess my boats not good enough. In reality I think he's tossing around the idea of getting a fishing kayak and using it as exercise/non-golfing time so he wanted to try it out with a fishing trip. I'll let yall know how it goes. Waiting for a calmer day to get my boat offshore, been blowing every weekend.

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You get to fish some new spots at least. Learn something from someone different. It's definitely a different experience than fishing from a boat.

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For sure, I used to take my kayak down there when I was younger but I didn't know anything about saltwater fishing then. Should be fun to get back out there and try it again with some saltwater experience.

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Went out in some Hobie Mirage's. The guide was great, easy to talk to and didn't pretend to know it all, gave plent of pointers on target areas etc. Got off to a hot start. I casted into an oysterbed and got hung, popped it off, hung again popped it off, hung again and nope that's a fish. Big red 30+ took off but the line had taken too much of a beating from the oyster beds and he broke off.

Next spot I hooked into a sizable flounder, got him to the boat. Things slowed down a bit after that. The guide ended up with a small trout. A while later at dead low my dad hooked into a good red that took him for a short sleigh ride before crossing him over an oysterbed and cutting him off. A few casts later my dad landed the biggest SC inshore trout I've seen. I followed up in the same spot and managed to land a little puppy drum.

Pretty fun little 3 hour trip. My dad had a blast, said he'll probably do it one more time before he commits to buying one and going on his own.

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Nice! Glad y'all had a good trip. Pedal drive yaks are nice especially hobies. Too bad about the reds cutting you off. How big was the trout you think?

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I wasn't all that close so I can't say I got an accurate confirmation on length I'm guessing it was around 25. Regardless it was chunky.

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3rdGen and I are finally going to make it out tomorrow. Hoping for some trouts in the Mobjack area. I haven't wet a line since the OBX butt whuppin', and with the looks of the forecast, we are in for a nice fall day with manageable winds and a 1' sea (ha!!). Now, if my trailer lights were just working...

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I'm so ready to get on 'em!

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Keep me posted on how yall do I'm gonna be around this weekend might try and sneak out for a paddle for a little bit if I can manage it one morning.

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Will do. Hope the rest of your western bird hunt went well. Pappy is a real cool dog and I enjoyed your video of him getting to hunt.
I've been hearing a lot of good things about the reds, but am figuring they'll be gone soon, if not already with the cool night temps. The trout, however, should still be around. Take a day off and join us tomorrow at 7 am at the Put In Creek Town Landing and let's catch a bunch.
Invitation extended to all who read it. Anyone up for a spontaneous fishing trip? Scottie? Jesse? Anybody? I can take a couple more.

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If I hadnt just come back from 2 weeks off work I'd join yall tomorrow but I'll be stuck at work till friday then I'm heading down that afternoon might get in early enough to get a few casts in before dark if I'm not digging oysters for the weekend. The bird trip went fantastic the puppy did exceptional for a first year I uploaded a few more videos to my channel and still got a few to upload as well. Any time spent in the field with a dog is the best time you can ask for. (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFoQ0c4w4mh9wUozrxy8ExA?view_as=subscriber)

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I think puppy drum are mostly gone, please prove me wrong.

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Boy would I love to. My neighbor got a couple a couple of days ago, but it was in deeper water on the Piankatank. I hope for, but don't expect.

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1' sea?? I'm starting to think I'm going to have to widen my range to get conditions like that on a weekend I'm free. It's 0-2 all week weekend hits its 3-6 at close intervals.

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Well, Kev, it do be da Bay, right? We get some rough stuff, choppy as hell and the Mobjack is notoriously a rough ride in the best of, but yeah, we do get those 1' predictions, and while it's more likely to be 1-2, it can be downright amenable out there. Also, we'll be fishing the rivers, and there is usually a wind break from the undulations of the waterway, so I'm counting on extreme fishability tomorrow. Counting on it, I say. Counting.
You likely have access to more fish down there in the southland, though. The best thing about being retired is not having to worry about weekend fishing. I usually leave that to the "civilians", and go midweek and only when the wind/wave/weather is tolerable. I've done my weekend time in my 63 years of angling and avoid it if at all possible.

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Good luck!

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In for Mobjack results!

slight break in the weather today...hit the same creek as Monday with similar results. Scratched out two small slot reds...a 19" and a 20". Released a couple undersized trout. Used the Slayer Chicken off the Chain pattern...similar to the Houdini but with tiny silver flakes in the belly (instead of gold) and a chartreuse tail. I don't know that it mattered...trout were short striking as they did Monday. When the reds hit, they hit hard.

I did manage to lose a rod and reel today. I put it in one of those adjustable Yak attack-like holders I use for the net and dead-sticked a gulp off the stern while I ate lunch. As I finished lunch I could see a guide coming up the creek. It is very narrow as I previously posted and I didn't want him to leapfrog me. So I hastily got back on the TM to more or less claim my line. Totally forgot about the rod I'd left out. 30 minutes later I looked in the back, the rod holder was flat instead of vertical and was rodless. Totally my screw up.

Great report and nice job with the slots! I've had a time finding them this year- only 1

3rdGen got a 17'' red on his first cast and we were off to an enjoyable day. I'm too tired and have to cook dinner, so I won't leave a long report, but we got several fish in a certain Hokienator's creek. Smallish stripers, some small trout and I got a white perch up there as well. Our success was spotty and somewhat erratic, but we ended up having a really nice day with enough fish to keep us interested all day. Nothing to brag about, but some keeper trout and the stripers fought pretty well also. I used gulp shrimp, 3rd tried several things and did well with a Zman thing. He might have a picture or two to add at some point.

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Thank you!

Hitting the Rapp first thing tomorrow morning with two clients.

Trailer axle is installed. Hoping that it is all squared away.

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Ifish had the hot rod yesterday. Some funny moments, I tried a skip cast when we were 40 feet from the dock came up way short. Fish says you aren't gonna catch em like that. One twitch and 15" trout. Fish had one retrieve where he had five short strikes. Good day to be on the water with a good friend. Could use a lot more days like this. Good for the soul. I haven't been fishing much lately but I'm headed down to Hatteras tonight for a weekend of heaving bait.

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My friend, it was a pleasure to host you. I just showed your pictures to Mrs. Fish and she's still exclaiming over the first one with the red in the rising sun. In my humble opinion, that is one of the coolest fish pics I've ever seen. Mrs. would love to have an 8X10 of it to frame (there are no fish pics in our house) she was so impressed, and we agree that you should send it to Va. Wildlife or something for wider publication. Yeah, it's THAT good. Best of luck to you this weekend, and again, thanks for coming down and fishing with me.

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Thanks for the praise on the photo! It just kinda worked out. I was trying to focus on getting the whole fish in the photo but got lucky that the sun was in between the fins. I guess I can just email Va. Wildlife the picture. Never done anything like that before.

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Dunno, but I have a friend who should know. I'll reach out to him today and see what he allows.

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Sum gun I know that pier next time feel free to take the sailboat there for a spin it never gets used anymore. Glad to see the drum are still hanging around, Fish swing on by tomorrow for some oysters and beer and lets talk how you guys like to fish them baits in and around there.

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Y'all got insurance on that sailboat? /s (I'm learnin' my lesson)
Thanks for the invite, I noticed you got the tent up and the grass looking good. I'm going to try to make it, but we had a family thing come up today that may interfere. Either way, have a great day and please say hey to your fiance and your mom and dad.

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Will do, hope you can make it by my mom saw y'all fishing and thought she recognized you the other morning while she was digging oysters. Gonna see if I can find some fish for a bit at sunrise then we got work to do.

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Yeah, I saw her and waved yesterday morning, but she was busy with some workers. I've otherwise never been in your creek before, and if I saw her digging oysters, I'd have certainly said howdy-do. Other than yesterday, I hadn't been out at all in two and a half weeks, shame on me. Good luck in the ayem.

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Nice day!

Just an FYI- Avon beaches have had a hot drum bite- on ton of citation fish have been caught by the Frank and Frans tournament anglers. It died up here- nothing but biters and rays for two days. Trout bite dried up a bit too.

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Thanks for the info French! Hope it turns back on for ya

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Is Wilton Creek holding good fish again? I used to fish that back in high school and early college hard. I hope it recovered after that one really harsh winter where people said you could scoop up trout with a net. Would love to get back out there some point, I enjoyed how calm it was.

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It should be. Its been a good year for trout everywhere because of the mild winter last year. Trout recover pretty well just a mild winter or two and the population is back on track.

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If there are trout around, Wilton will hold them. My personal and unproven opinion is that there are springs in the creek that can make water tolerable for holdover trout, and I also postulate that the biggest/oldest know that the trip south and back is a tough one as they age and they just hunker down around the spring fed holes and if the winter doesn't get too severe, they survive and are in great shape for procreative activity before the rest of the trout make it back in the spring. The die off was noted around here and the folks with commercial licenses were, indeed, netting dying trophy trout in Wilton and a couple of other creeks in the area.
Wilton is a popular trout fishery and I have fished it a bit over the years. Never been there that I haven't seen other trout fishermen, and word is the Piankatank is getting unprecedented pressure as social media (don't get me started!) has spread the word that the trouting is hot this year. I've heard tell of a couple of local guys that won't go because of idiotic trollers, but that's another discussion for another day.

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I tried for a keeper trout yesterday. I managed two shorts before drum fishing. A buddy got a 21 inch trout and a 24 inch pup on a z man diezel minnow. Drum fishing was stupid. Nothing but little purple biter sharks all morning.

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Looks like everyone is fishing except for me!

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Send me a text to my phone if you have the number and I'll send you a picture of a bodacious walleye one of my buds caught in Peak Creek (Claytor Lake) on a crankbait a couple of weeks ago. They were bass fishing. I've been looking, and may yet run across your number, but I can't find it so far.

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60 striped bass up to 20 inches on the fly today in the mouth of the Rapp.

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I don't know what I did to offend the boating gods, but they fucking hate me. Only ask if you want to hear a rant.

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Ohhhh, g'head on, brothah. Tell the Doctors aaaallllll about it. Sounds like good fishin' though.

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Show up to the ramp, dead boat battery. No worries, I've expected I'd leave a switch on at some point and this would happen. I'm prepared because I've spent $100 on a battery pack that I keep on the boat, freshly fully charged to 100% on Monday. Hook it up and will it start the boat? NOPE. Let it sit there for 15-20 minutes and teach casting to the newbie client. Try again. It gets close on the crank, but won't go. Try a third time, NOPE. This thing claims it will jump a 12V battery twenty times, in just seconds, on a full charge. What a crock of shit. Never fear, I've got a fresh new set of all copper wire jumper cables. Drive the front of the truck down to the water, swing the back of the boat around and try to jump the battery with the truck. New cables are fucked. They won't work. I'm trying to spark them, nothing. Re-seat the ends on the truck over and over, nothing. Horseshit. We're now over an hour late to be on the water and I'm stuck at the ramp with a boat and a battery that won't start. Client goes up to the neighbor's house and borrows a pair of rusty old jumper cables. They work just fine, plenty of spark. Try again, getting clicks when I turn the key but not enough juice and won't start. So weird. Maybe it's really dead and just won't charge well. Clients ask if we need a new battery. At this point I'm fuming. No reason this shouldn't start. No worries! I decide I'll use the battery out of my truck to get us going! Take it out of my truck, set it in the boat and guess what??? Doesn't have studs that will fit the cables from the motor. FML. I give clients my CC, they head to West Marine in Deltaville and drop $125 on a new battery. 40 minutes later, they are back and we put the new battery in. I switch everything out. Go to turn it on. ZILCH. What in the actual fuck??? Try multiple more times. Nothing, no clicks, no juice. Call my mechanic buddy, he thinks maybe my cables from the battery to the boat are going bad, which I've never heard of but ok.... We take the old shitty jumper cables that we borrowed and jump from the battery to the boat engine. Fires right up! Ok, so something is potentially up with the cables. Disconnect and then reconnect the regular boat cables. Turn engine off, turn on. Works fine. Sigh, makes no sense but ok, I'll take it. We load up, head out of the ramp and ride a couple of miles to the spot. I get the guys to start fishing, shut off the motor. Just for kicks, I go to restart it. NOTHING. Holy hell, I am so mad. I say fuck it, just fish and I'll figure it out. They start off with an 18" striper. Drive them around with the trolling motor hitting grass banks. Few more fish. I just start pulling on battery wires, moving shit. Try again. Motor fires back up. Sigh of relief. So the battery cable is part of the problem I deduce. We ride around the rest of the day and not a single problem further, except now several switches won't turn on... bilge pump, stereo and interior lights. WTF????? Still doesn't make sense to me... why the jumper battery wouldn't work fully when it was nearly turned over, why my new cables wouldn't work, why one of battery these wires works fine one moment but not the next, why won't several switches now not work???

So infuriating. Tomorrow I put all new battery cables in the boat and see if this solves it. Just what I need to have to figure out and fix when I'm supposed to leave and drive tomorrow to NOLA. As my former idiot roommate used to say, if it ain't a cat, it's a dog.

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Sounds like a shitty connection or corrosion in the cable, try ohming it out once it's out to see if your getting impedence and that would give you a definitive answer. Maybe one of your lugs got loose as well. Hopefully you won't find a shitty connection in the middle of the cable that got loose which can happen when people jack leg boat wiring. Also could be your ground isn't landed right which could explain the other stuff not working.

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Thanks. I am replacing the entire battery switch and battery cables tomorrow. I am not good with electricity but have a basic knowledge. The lugs coming loose have been a problem before but def wasn't the issue this go round, it was the first thing I checked.

When the motor was almost turning over, I'd see a little tiny puff of smoke coming off of the positive battery connection. Anybody idea what could cause this?

I am thinking of paying someone to completely rewire the boat this winter.

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Make sure the lugs get solid crimps and I throw tape or heat shrink on my stuff when it's gonna be outdoors to help the connections last longer.

On the magic smoke typically that's a bad sign maybe even a off and on short where the cable is nicked and it'll smoke some. Could also have been some gunk smoking every time you were cranking it as well is stuff like muck or a bug stuff like that between a connection can cause smoke too it happens more than you'd think. Best cure is wire brush the terminal lugs and the connections to make them clean and tight. Any space and you can get arcs as well which cause smoke on current

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Thanks, I appreciate the tips!

You're an electrician by day, correct?

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Yup done a bit of residential, commercial, industrial and doing robotics integration now so I'm always happy to help out with stuff like that. That all said boat electronics are a weird world compared to most systems

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OK youngsters. Here it is. Your ticket to a golden life, great wealth and the everlasting gratitude of all boat owners everydamnwhere.
Use these techno skills and hyper computational resources to come up with a wireless vehicle to trailer light system that will obviate the need for wires on the trailer altogether.
Think I'm kidding? Well, don't say someone never offered you a way to be richer than Trump says he is.

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I've been thinking about this idea for quite some time.... I think the power source of it is the issue.

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Yup the issue always is, even if you set it up with say a solar you still need a battery and some Bluetooth device which would be tricky. What we need to do is modular trailers with sealed wiring that's modular, one piece stuff that's really well sealed and simple but as we all know boat trailers always screw up

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I just cannot wrap my head around electricity. I need to read the electricity is for dummies book.

Just spent 6 hours working on the boat wiring. I have installed a new battery switch, new temporary in line fuses, new fuses in the helm panel, who knows how many new wire ends and found some really rotten connections.

The trim tabs, jack plate, starter, GPS and bilge all work. Couldn't figure out the stereo before dark but oh well.

Hitting the road super early to get down to Pensacola.

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Cool runnin's, brah.

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I work with it every day and honestly it surprises me all the time still

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Sounds like a rough day man, sorry about the unending issues that seem to haunt your rig

Thanks. As my father said, "sounds like it might be time to sell it."

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Yikes, a nightmare. I had battery issues last year and couldn't figure them out. One morning at the ramp, battery seemed totally dead. I had cables and talked a guy launching into trying to jump my rig from his running boat battery. Nada. My companion lived nearby and left to go get some tools for us to take my van's battery out and try that. While he was gone, I took all the connections off of the battery and using a strip of sandpaper and a tiny wire brush, I thoroughly scrubbed all metal stuff until I was certain I'd gotten to good contacts, put them back together on the battery, and lo and behold...started right up. Now, at regular intervals (well, sorta) I take everything off, clean the connections and slather them with dielectric grease before reassembly. Since then, no probs.

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Also, another rant. If anyone goes on a guided trip, please respect the guide's gear and listen to them when they ask you to handle it a certain way. Reels in the dirt, rods dropped in the bottom of the boat, high sticking fish right next to the boat, etc.... All of this gear is expensive stuff and it is painful to watch it get abused and mistreated, especially after asking for it to be handled properly. In the last three weeks I'm having to replace two $100 fly lines because clients just walk all over them on the deck of the boat and then rub them under their shoes to kick them out of the way. Rolling it back and forth twisting it up under a shoe will wreck a fly line and the client must have done it 50 times today. Super nice guy but man, I'll have lost money today with the battery issues and now having to replace that line. I'm lucky as shit both of them didn't break rods high sticking right next to the boat. I do my best to be a nice guide and not get frustrated with those that are beginners or don't know but the lack of common sense with my gear is really starting to get to me. I'm beginning to understand why some guides are very particular or just outright dicks about their gear and everything on the boat.

Rants over, I'm glad those guys caught the shit out of them. It turned the rough morning around. Also, the new axle, springs, wheels and tires seemed to work fine so that's a positive!

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You're a generous guy- I don't know if I'd have $100 tier line on for beginners. Sorry to hear about the wear and tear; glad no broken tips

For that reason alone I prefer my own gear when fishing with guides anymore unless it's simple spinning stuff anything fly related I try and use my own so if I mess up it's on my bill and not the guides

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It's a problem all guides deal with on a daily basis. I know some guides that absolutely insist on the finest equipment and pride themselves on it. They typically figure replacement in as a cost of business and charge accordingly. On the other hand, I know guides whose typical approach is to hit the bargain barrel at sporting goods stores for the cheapest but functional equipment they can get. I know shitty guides that do both and good guides that do both. I had some problems, but had a good relationship with some of my suppliers and got guide's discounts to help alleviate the costs, and while I had broken rods, no one ever...EVER...offered to pay for what they did. I will admit to holding on to negatory feelings for some of those clients for not offering, but I likely wouldn't have charged them for it unless they were truly negligent or outright dismissive of my warnings.
The one time I set a limit was for one of my very best clients. I was running the shuttle and left him at the ramp with the raft and equipment. I expressly told him not to fish from shore as the water was only a foot deep, there were no fish there, and that he'd get snagged without fail. So what's he do? Soon as I'm gone, he takes a rod with a high dollar Lucky Craft Pointer, casts it out a good long way, jerks it once and gets it hung up. Then, to cover it up, he broke it off and dug through my gear and came up with what he thought I'd had on and tied it and put it back in the boat. We're floating along and I went to hand him that rig and noticed the different bait. I called him on it and he admitted the incident and sorta jokingly apologized. Now, this guy was a great client, frequent yearly trips and a great tipper along with being a really nice man. But, I gave him shit for at least an hour about the lure, and while I was joking along, he knew it bugged me. Finally, he hooked a $20 bill on his lure and swung it around in front of me as I rowed. I snagged it, gave him a thumbs up, and we dropped it for the day. He is still a friend and we fish together now and then as friends, and we still get a laugh out of that one.

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One last thing.... should I just create a HokieFlyGuy boating vent thread???

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I did

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Headed to the Dead Sea "Lake Anna" on Tuesday. Lake St Clair on Thursday.

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Dude! I've fished in the shit, rain, snow, sleet and hail, wind and waves and well below freezing temps, but that fellow there needs his head examined and his wife needs to take his truck keys from him until summer. If he doesn't have a wife, his friends need to stage an intervention.
Seriously though, he's dressed for it and obviously gonna gut it out. I respect it, but I'll pass.
Going to Lake Anna, though, that is a torture into itsownself. I feel for ya.

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Going to Lake Anna, though, that is a torture into itsownself. I feel for ya.

I like digital puzzles!

Thanks again for the walleye pic! Monster!

Griller!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Hey everyone- my memory is foggy after nine straight 4AM wakeups, but here is an overall summary of the action.

Prep- I decided to fish my first tournament this year, the Billy Sydnor Memorial Tournament sponsored by Oceans East Nags Head. I went on Thursday so I could pre-fish Friday and find bait. I also wanted a safety net if it was hard to come by. I found a place near St. Michaels, MD which sold live spot. I picked up 60 small spot for $30, so bait was covered. On Friday, I fished very windy conditions and managed to get a decent spot bite and load up on bigger bait. No drum.

Saturday (Day 1 of the Sydnor Tournament.) Lines in was at 6AM. I decided to fish Jennettes Pier for the first time. When the gentleman opened the gate, he told me that "all the bluefish you want" are at the first light. I walked to the first light and saw almost 60 keeper trout just sitting there facing to the north. It made me sick to leave them, but I needed to max fishing time with lines in for the tournament. Sure enough, I should have fished for trout. One googan who couldn't really even cast caught a 46 incher at daylight. If he had been in the tournament, he would have won $2000. Of course, that was the only fish of the day. Meanwhile, trout were destroying gotcha plugs all the way to the second island. Most folks had at least 4 keepers. Many limited out. I caught big spot and loaded the cooler to the gills. I had a drum line in the water from 6AM-midnight and only caught small sandbar sharks.

Sunday (Day 2 and the close of the Sydnor Tournament.) Conditions were too rough in the morning. I went through the motions of fishing, but struggled to hold with a 14 ounce sinker I could barely flip. We packed up at noon and went to the awards ceremony. Only one fish was caught (Florida flats guide Pat Bracher, whose brother Arch is the captain of The Pelican at Oregon Inlet.) We went back to Jennettes around dark and my buddy Devon caught two fish. I struck out.

Monday- Very rough. I started out with 12 oz sinkers. Lots of break offs from debris in the water, and lots of blow ups. Meanwhile, a nice drum bite started with a slow pick and was hot by 10AM as conditions improvded. After seeing around 20 get caught, I got one on a Saturday spot head at around 10:30AM. By then, a 3 sided 8oz pyramid was holding. The bite tempered off after low tide. I am guessing around 30 were caught. I got hooked up with about 7 pounds of fresh cob mullet in the afternoon to set me up for the next two days.

Tuesday- Slow pick, but I got a sunrise fish- a 40 incher which was as fat as I have ever seen a drum. The rest of the day was slow. I managed to cull out my old spot with some new spot to compliment my mullet. The sunrise fish hit a cob head. There were about 8 drum caught.

Wednesday- Even slower pick. Only three fish total, with me getting my biggest fish of the trip around 11AM in the early parts of the outgoing tide. Fishing for all other species slowed down as the water cleaned up. Undersized black drum and pinfish competed with the spot for meals. I did manage about a half dozen spot and two nice sea mullet.

Thursday- It felt almost like summer with a puff of east wind and calm conditions. Bluefish with some spot was the catch. I got wind of a good trout bite in the afternoon the night before at the much shorter Avalon. After nothing but small biter sharks in huge numbers, I got my dad and headed north to try trout fishing. I ended up with 4 shorts, and dad caught some nice spot. But, the overall move was a disappointment. I saw a keeper flounder get thrown back because of a closed season. One keeper trout was caught early upon our arrival, and then some old boy caught a monster... at least five pounds. I have never seen one that big.

Friday- Doo-doo. All the bluefish you wanted. Nothing else. I packed up at noon and cleaned gear for the trip home.

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Damn, that's a submarine! Phat!!!

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My fishing at Hatteras started out like Hokieflyguys trip. Second cast blow the shit up out of my reel. Spend the next 30 minutes trying to get all the line off the reel. Some line ended up getting underneath the star drag so I take the handle off and drop a small screw in the sand. Can't find it so I drive to tackle store to get a new screw. Only a couple drum caught at sunrise bite on Saturday. Nothing happened during the day. Fished that night til 10 pm with no bites. There were some drum caught but lots of tangles happening. Wind turned around on Sunday but bite never really materialized. Some yearlings caught last night. Got home at midnight. Here's some sunrise pictures to make up for the lack of fish caught on my end.

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Looks like Luis (owner of Vega Rods) and Ryan White (Century/Hatteras Jacks) with you.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

Yep, fished with Luis for awhile. It thinned out after the morning bite Sunday and Luis hung around and fished. Not sure which one is Ryan White. Probably know the face just not the name.

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Looks like him furthest to the right on the first photo.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

Gotcha. He was out there most of the weekend. Got a yearling on Sunday night

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This would be a blast for me to sit with a chair and a case of beer and just watch. But I think I have zero interest in joining the fray, with all the lines and my total lack of understanding the etiquette and process, I think I'd have a not good time. But that view and just enjoying the excitement of everyone else would be fun.

It can be really intimidating. Also this is picture is a lot less than the people that were there Saturday night. I don't enjoy the night fishing. Tough to see where everyone is at. Basically you cast out and then figure out if you are over or under other peoples lines. Then walk down the beach with your rod following your sinker which is hopefully moving with the current.

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Since I complain incessantly about my boat I'll post some good news. Drove all the way to Orange Beach AL yesterday. Got in at 1:30 a.m. local time. The axle, new wheels and tires worked exceptional. 15 inch wheels do make a big difference in towing feel over 14 inch wheels for anyone thinking of upgrading.

Hopefully hitting the water this afternoon in Hopedale Louisiana!

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Keep up the hope! I finally fixed my trailer lights. For now. Over/under for how long they keep working?

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2 trips!

Vegas - O/U has moved to 6

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Good luck!

Just saw your Instagram story....did you speak too soon?

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"If Fu goes to 2 acc champ games in 4 years, I will never criticize him again." - dcwilson

I believe he did. It's some tough luck. Hopefully it was just the wheel

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Man this same thing happened to me on my Florida trip. Praised my new bearings and spindles for getting my down without issue. On the way back up a u-bolt on my bunch broke and left my hull bouncing on the corner of the trailer for hours before I noticed.

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"If Fu goes to 2 acc champ games in 4 years, I will never criticize him again." - dcwilson

Ugh, that's sickening

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I spoke too son. Made the 790 mile journey to Orange Beach with no issues. Going 65 mph heading west on 10. Cross the border into LA and the fucking wheel flies off the trailer. Drag the bitch 500 yards and get off the highway. All 5 lug stems sheared off cleanly.

I was so mad I wasn't even mad. Very nice couple pulled over in front of us and said the wheel jumped over my truck after it flew off. It made a serious scuff mark on my boat. I do not know what to do, I don't know what I'm doing wrong, it's just insane. My old piece of shit Carolina Skiff trailer made all of these types of trips and I never even checked the bearings. Sigh. If the new axle bent, I'm going to just set the whole rig on fire.

I was fully prepared for this and we were back on the highway in 30 mins but had to stop for more parts, etc. This whole incident knocked out fishing for us Monday.

Seriously considering selling the boat. Clearly I am not supposed to own this thing...

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Two words for you my jinxed friend, two magic words that will finally put an end to your trailer woes, for a few years anyway. You know what they are, and since you seem to be throwing good money after bad, I'm sure you have thought about it. Yeah...NEW TRAILER...

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The thing is, what broke was brand spanking new... a new wheel on a brand new hub.

One word that holds me back from buying a new trailer, as well as makes me think about getting a real job.... MONEY

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Oh believe you me, I feel your pain. My trailer is a trip away from broken down on the road, but I'm strictly local now, so I don't worry as much as maybe I should. I also don't do it for a living anymore.
Anyway, I've always been really good at spending other people's money. Wish I had some of my own, but I was a fishing guide. I'm lucky to have a roof.

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I am wondering of the axle and wheel are aligned with the trailer properly....

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They have to be. All of it lines up off of the springs and those are brand spanking new too

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All five bolts sheared off? I've never heard of such a thing. What in the world would cause that, even hypothetically? While it just screams manufacturing defect, even that's tough for me to understand.

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Are the springs attached to the axle using U bolts and is there a metal knob that allows the plate with the U-bolts to align on the springs? If so, that makes what you say make sense that it should self align, but you should check the alignment, the issue may have something to do with the trailer frame alignment (left to right).
The method for checking axle alignment during an install, requires you do cross corner measurements. The following assumes the trailer frame is intended to be 90 degrees with the axle where the axle is attached to it (which was my case). This is basically measuring along the hypotenuse of an assumed right triangle with the 90 degree triangle legs being the axle and the straight portion of the trailer frame where the axle is attached. You measure to a selected point on the trailer across to where the axle meets the other side of the trailer frame. Then do the same measurement from the other side. If the measurements are not within 1/4" of each other, you're axle is not oriented properly relative to the frame for pulling straight with the tow vehicle.
I hope this helps some, I just don't know your exact trailer and frame shape/orientation.
Here is the trailer I rebuilt in 2013 that I have discussed on these forums before:

And here is the SeaRay CC21 I owned on that trailer, just before I sold it (I sure miss that boat):

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I will take it off your hands for 5 bucks... /s

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Least it looks like ya got a small reward for the trouble

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Yep he got a nice one. Louisiana don't mess around

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It was an awesome fish... 22 pounds and 40 inches on the dot. Ate in 3 feet of water. For those who want to know, blind casting a Johnson Gold Spoon. Yes, it was a reward. (I am still furious about the trailer.)

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Nice! That's an awesome fish and to get it on a spoon. I know you would have preferred the fly but still great.

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Nothing big to report from the weekend caught a couple smaller specks and some whiting, got gifted some fillets from bigger fresh specs so gonna try an italian marinade and grill em tonight for a nice dinner for once.
Zman sexy mullet is an awesome color wish they did scented paddlerz in smaller sizes though.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Spend the next 30 minutes trying to get all the line off the reel.

You salt water guys! Go freshwater! We never have line / reel / batt / axle / tire /truck / switch / wiring / weather / snagging / bird nest / tidal / broken trailer problems!

Might as well be fishing in a trout pool!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Wtf. That's just not right.

Another foray into the Mobjack rivers today. Tide at launch was ridiculous. Thought I was going to have to back in to my van hubs because there was water almost into the parking lot and the ramp is gradual until the drop.
Got a couple of dinks in the weed beds at the mouth of the North, then headed in to dock fish. First dock was loaded up with more spike specs, but they were plentiful and willing, with a handful of 14" fish mixed in with the 10-13s to keep us interested. The day was unbelievable. Wind would die for stretches of time and we didn't have much trouble holding fishable proximity to the docks. Worked all the usual docks up the North, but the docks weren't giving much up except the spikes, and they were all out from the structure a ways. Did manage a few more 14s, and the fish of the day, an 18-1/2" spec. I caught all of my fish on gulp shrimp, GI Jack got all of his on various gulp grubs. We caught dozens and dozens of specs, one black willy, one little flounder, one bluefish, one pinfish, and two sand perch. Then there were the gray trout. We ran out into the wide part of the North to take a break, and while barely drifting in 20+', I dropped my jig to the bottom and was vertically jigging lazily and got a 12" gray trout. Then Jack got one, then I got one, then...and so on and so on and so on. Nothing bigger than 12, but there had to be thousands of them. We stopped where we stopped without fishing intent and were in totally open water with no apparent structure, and we certainly didn't expect to fish there. We finally tired of harassing the children and moved upstream for our dock fishing. On the way back, I switched to a half oz little jigging spoon with a wide gap small hook. I bent the barb and we once again just eyeballed it and started fishing. Three hours later than we found them the first time, and they were still around. I know, I know. Child abuse, poor form, harmful to the resource, all true, but damn, we were having so much fun and not having to work for it so we caught them again for maybe a half hour then headed on back home. No stripers, no reds, and we didn't get a bite in Hokienator's creek on our way out.

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I'm going out around the mobjack tomorrow evening- fishing an incoming from low. Hopefully there will be some speck action

Just curious, what kinda boat/kayak do you have?

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I'll be on a 18' red Alumacraft today with an old coworker. I'm usually out that way in my 16' skiff as well.

It seems to me that I have maybe seen that Alumacraft recently while out. Maybe last Thursday? 3rdGen and I were headed out of a creek on the East and it came from upriver maybe 8-8:30 or so? My boat is an 18-1/2 ' Scout Dorado with a very faded wide blue side stripe. Split cockpit and a fossil in the driver's seat.

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Could possibly be him- he comes out of wormley creek on the York

Nope, not even close. I'm over on the East River, far from the York. The boat I saw fit the description from a distance, noticeably red, but coming from up the East.
So we're fishing different waters, let us know how it is over that way. Sounds like your buddy is dialed in.

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Ahh gotcha. I know he fishes areas from Goodwin up into mobjack

They're there, alright. Finding bigger fish is the challenge, but the trout? They are definitely around. Please give us a report and I hope you don't get rained out.

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Hoping the majority of rain and foul weather holds out for the early parts of the evening. I'm diggin the Wednesday fishing idea, though

Well, the clouds will be helpful and there appears to be no wind today, so an evening trip sounds just right.

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