Pitt Vent Thread

I don't care if there are 11 minutes left in the fourth, I'm starting this thread. I'm done with Fuente and Corn. It's clear that JHam is over his head.

(1) Burn the entire thing to the ground
(2) I miss Bud Foster
(3) We need a hard reset with someone with vision and can build a program from the ground up
(4) I will start a GoFundMe for a Fuente buyout on request.

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#MakeTheMove . . . "Vick, dashing back . . . here he comes again . . . Electrifying . . . and have you ever seen anything like this?"

Clemson and LOLUVA left... Not looking good.

Is coronavirus over yet?

To vent, I would need to care. All the care has been sucked out of me.

Sadly, this is true.

I watched 0 seconds of today's game, I had a very pleasant Saturday.

That was me last weekend. I flew down to Morehead City, NC and took my sister flying to Ocracoke for lunch. It was a very enjoyable day.


I finally wrapped the main story in Miles Morales, then I got a nice hour in on my bike while running a perfect in Ghost of Tsushima Legends. (I play while on my stationary, passes the time!)

Also took my dogs out for a nice walk since we actually got some sunshine today.

This is a really good idea. Now I just need to convince my wife I need a PS5 because it'll help me work out more.

Let me know when you get your ps5! Can't lose with that logic! Lol

Morehead City. Had some memories there.

The OBX is fine, too, I just have spent more time at the Brunswick Beaches (mainly Holden).

Commercial or Private? What are your type and class ratings?

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Rick Monday... You Made a Great Play...

Romanes Eunt Domus

My grandparents lived on Emerald Isle for 30 years and I've got a lot of memories there. As for flying, just a PPL and an IR. I own a Grumman Tiger.

Gotcha. I'm working on my PPL. Might only ever fly the 172s, but it sure is worth it.

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Romanes Eunt Domus

Where are you located?

Williston, ND

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Oh...well then...that's a little too far away from Norfolk for a joy ride.

Oil & gas?


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Romanes Eunt Domus

Cool. I did an 4 month stint in Minot in the Winter of '11-12 doing some renovation work for Xcel after the flood. Do not miss it.

I was actually talking with Xcel about career opportunities, not too long ago.

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What was your major? I graduated Bldg Const. in '10

I was actually a History Major (a family tradition, though I'm the token Hokie out of a extended tree of Keydets and Wahoos). Pretty much all my technical training, has been OJT (Army or Oilfield Services) or self-taught. I did take one BC course in Fall 2007, as an elective.

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Cool. Corps of Cadets? I was Bravo

I wasn't in the Corps. I just went the 09S Route, after graduation, through the NGs. Got some good buddies that were in Echo.

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What was your major? I graduated Bldg Const. in '10

Used to work for a summer camp which had a house right down the street from here and we'd eat there for lunch

I miss those days

"I have a PLAN. You just need to have a little goddamn faith, Whit. I just need. more. MONEY." - Justin van der Linde

"Ahoy There!"

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Character Counts, bitch

"I have a PLAN. You just need to have a little goddamn faith, Whit. I just need. more. MONEY." - Justin van der Linde

6-years as a Camper and 2 Years as a Sailing JC. Great Memories.

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Same here, went rock climbing and hung out outside with some friends. I found myself having the thought "It will be easier to pull the trigger if we just lose", and I have never had a thought like that about VT football before.

I wish I could say the same.....I watched 0 seconds of this game and I was as stressed and as pissed as last week.... stupid cellphone... stupid refresh.... stupid coaching staff....

I watched the same amount. Spent all day ripping the old galvanized water pipes out of my mom's house and replacing them. ...STILL a better Saturday than watching the game.

If you play it, they will win.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used." -The BoD

Same. After the last two weeks I determined that Fuente is not worth my time. I made the right decision today and had an excellent day

This site has largely become at best detached and at worst bitter.

And I understand, eternal sports optimist that I am.

No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

It's pretty hard not to detach from such an ugly lackluster effort.

I still refuse to lose to UVA. I want Clemson to curb stomp the shit out of us so we can purge this program but we gotta beat UVA. Not losing to those SOBs

What we do in life, echoes in eternity

The way this team is playing we are gonna get curb stomped by the hoos

I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction:
“I served in the United States Navy"


This level of play cannot be accepted in year five of the Fuente experience. How can a team that ranked sixth nationally in returning production be this bad? Very little on this team works. No coordinator change can fix this. No recruiting help is coming. Justin Fuente, and the entire operation, have to go. What a horror show.

You have to pay the buyout. This is an experienced team, and an experienced coaching staff, on offense at least. You don't get to look like this at a P5 program where football is important, in year five.

Almost wish Bud would have retired when Frank did, this would have happened far earlier

You put those words together, those are my favorite words, Popeyes and bahama
- Mike Burnup

I know hindsight is 20/20, but we should've promoted Bud. He deserved a shot and would've maintained the identity that put this program on the map. I don't even know what I'm watching anymore.

We just got boat raced by a 4-4 Pitt team missing 16 Players.

There is no reasonable way to justify bringing back Fuente for another year.

Find the money to fire him or this program will be beyond the point of resurrection soon.

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Rick Monday... You Made a Great Play...

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My most hated team in college football is now Baylor

I had some hope, til this happened

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Fuck that photo. It couldn't look more fake/staged if they tried. His laptop isn't even turned on.

"Sooner or later, if man is ever to be worthy of his destiny, we must fill our heart with tolerance."
-Stan Lee

"Never half-ass two things. Whole-ass one thing."
-Ron Swanson

"11-0, bro"
-Hunter Carpenter (probably)

Let's go! Follow me off the cliff!

No kidding, this staff is like an old Tube TV...you couldn't even give them away at this point.

I have a solid hunch that Brad Cornelsen will be selling insurance in the very near future

Imagine how you would have felt, as the 2018 season wore on, and the pro-Fuente crowd kept telling you to wait for 2020, if you had known that this would be the result. The year that we were all supposed to wait for.

It's laughable now to look back on the 2018 excuse-making.

"Yeah this team is absolutely pathetic and recruiting is starting to become a major issue but just wait for all these players who are showing little to no ability to become impact players in 2 years"

It is surprising how much the team has regressed. I sense Fuente has a blank stare and has no idea what to do at this stage. The team just looks confused, disjointed, and unmotivated.

I used to be one of those people.

“Careful man, there’s a beverage here!” — The Dude

Reporting in. Wish people believed me (us) then. Disappointed it took us falling this far for everyone to finally understand. Wish we weren't here. We lost all of our prestige and talent capital. We are in a deep hole and I don't really care anymore. I deferred my tickets until next year, but likely won't renew after that. From Sands down, it's obvious they don't care about getting our money, from their hires, to signing chicken shit scared contracts, to not emphasizing spending and recruiting. Everyone finally agrees that Fuente and Cornelson need to go. I'm at the next step that think Sands (for reasons extending far beyond football) and Whit need to go. I have no doubt my opinion will be dismissed just like I was in 2018, but idc. The foundation is bad.

Removing features to get people to sign up for your service is something EA would would do.

sands 100% needs to go

Danny is always open

I posted this in the game thread, but it fits better here.
This needs to be Whit tomorrow.

I don't know what a Hokie is, but God is one of them!

I'm not sure why Whit gets a free pass from most of the fan base. He's every bit as responsible for the current state of VT football as Fuente.

Whit hired Fuente. AND he extended him with huge new contract with a poison pill buyout. I'm sure some people will point out that just about everyone was happy with the Fuente hire (and with the extension) at the time. And that's true. But athletic directors get paid big money to get it right with their hires, not to make personnel moves that were simply popular at the time. Hell, everyone on this board could do that.

The doll's trying to kill me and the toaster's been laughing at me.

Because it was heralded as a great, the best hire, at the time. A good fit and a great transitional period with Beamer. Keeping Bud was a huge win in the eyes of the public too. Fuentes buyout is something like the 25th highest, so it's pretty much fair market value.

Whit got Buzz to come to Blacksburg when we had finished in the bottom of the ACC 2 years in a row. Yeah people hate him but he took us to multiple NCAA tournaments. Now we've got Coach Young doing great things. Whit has updated the baseball field, Cassell, and made smart hires that yielded results in other sports. Lax, soccer, wrestling are all doing good.

I know its frustrating but the Whit slander on here is frustrating some times. December 16th and everything will be fine.

VB born, class of '14

All very good points. I wasn't suggesting that Whit should be fired, or that he's a bad athletic director.

But he is the one who hired Fuente, and I would say that whiffing on your head football coach hire at a football-focused school like Virginia Tech erases a lot of other good moves.

The doll's trying to kill me and the toaster's been laughing at me.

To be honest I don't think it's a whiff. It's not like we hired someone who wasn't viewed to be a great hire at the time, or someone who didn't have the bona fides to earn the opportunity.

I'd also argue that giving a coach 5 years is just a good call and one I've been chirping about on this here board for a few years. You really can't evaluate a coach unless he has an opportunity to establish the program as his own. I've even argued that his adherence to the Beamer era and some of the coaches put his ownership of the program behind by another year or two.

I would have been willing to give Fuente another year or two to get it all together the way he wants it, but at this point I think we can see where the program is, where it is going, what Fuente can do, and what he is willing to do to make the program successful.

Where the program is: Middling team in the worst division in college football, on par with the Big Ten West.
Where the program is going: Nowhere important
What Fuente can do: Coachspeak, not recruit well, isolate the program away from the fans
What Fuente is willing to do: Stand by failed assistants, run quarterbacks until they get beat up

I've argued for the 5 year plan many times. If we had beaten Wake, Pitt, and Liberty this season (and had the competitive match with UNC and the so-close game with Miami), then I'd be all for Fuente continuing.

But we lost to Wake, Pitt (in an absolute thrashing), and Liberty.

The five year plan is complete. I think we can be sure of what this was, and we'll be able to view the entire Fuente era with 20/20 hindsight soon. Sadly. It should have been so, so good.

I'm not even saying that Fuente should be fired after this year. 2020 is an asterisk year for all of college football, because if you have dozens of games with 10-20 players out then let's be honest, every game is basically an exhibition game.

But for any VT fan that does want Fuente fired (and that seems to be ~80% of TKP I'd say), you have to accept the reality that Whit Babcock hired him, and it was a failed hire. If you feel good about Whit hiring a new coach that's cool, but I'm not as confident.

The doll's trying to kill me and the toaster's been laughing at me.

Whit gets a pass because he's earned it. Every hire he's made has been a good one. This one looks bad now (2016 he looked like a genius).

How he handles this mess will define how he is perceived.

We put the K in Kwality

Shut the whole thing down. What a poor excuse of a football program.

Outside it's night time, but inside it's LeDay

$1M per Win.

Tyrod did it Mikey, Tyrod did it!!

VT football is a HAZMAT spill and today Tottenham went to the top of the league. It's been almost a decade since I even felt anything about the Washington Football Team, win or lose. Sports has chewed me up and spit me out, boys. I'm a husk.

WFT has the chance to blow two Wins in the next 5 days, embarrassed by a rookie from Cincy and third or fourth string from Dallas

Not to mention they lost both of their games to the Giants. The Giants!!! Hahahaha, screw you Dan Snyder

He is too busy fighting his minority owners. They are trying to sell their 40% stake for $900M but Snyder is blocking it, because the potential new owners are doing it to get rid of him and get the team into the hands of some Indian billionaire. Going to be more interesting fight then these Hokies put up today.

I didn't know the minority owners selling was a move to get him out. I gave up on them two years ago. I refuse to come back until he sells the team or dies.

Where's the beef?

I gave up on the Dan Snyder-kins when he brought in Deion. I haven't spent a cent on merchandise since.

Its part of it, the other piece is that it would demolish the Forbes valuation of the franchise, as right now the 40% should be closer to $1.2 Billion, so they are selling at a huge discount to get out.

Whit has to fire him now, right??? Right!!?!?!?!

Yes,that's the Hokie Bird riding a camel. Why'd you ask?

Pitt. the 92nd ranked total offense missing five of its starters, mauled the Virginia Tech defense.

J-Ham is not fit for this job, and I can't see how you justify giving him more time. He inherited an experienced defense and decided now, for some reason, was the right time for a complete scheme remodeling. His unit is ranked 95th in total defense, and will probably fall after this game. He subtweets Virginia recruits who go out of state while his defense gives up four play, 99 yard touchdown drives. He has very little, if any, incoming recruiting help for his new scheme. The tackling is horrific in game nine.

Tech is getting what they paid for when they fleeted up a guy with zero FCS experience, prior to his ten months at Tech, to the job. Fuente hitched his futures to the hiring of his DC. He needs to be held responsible for that decision.


"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Fuente has turned this team into such a shitshow that I almost feel like it's worth thr extra 2.5 mil to fire him immediately.

I don't even care enough to vent.

Clean house.

Fire Fuente

"I have a PLAN. You just need to have a little goddamn faith, Whit. I just need. more. MONEY." - Justin van der Linde

I know this is a vent thread, but to be fair at this point, cant fire him right now. Not because of money reasons, but because do you really want your interim head coach/replacement to go out and in their first game get smacked by 50 by Clemson? Might as well wait until the buyout is 10 mil instead of 12.5

They'll really get after ya

Yeah, but if he's fired now you'll at least maybe get in front of the coaching carousel and get a chance to make a good hire before everyone else fires their coach.

ASSUMING Whit wants to fire fuente, wouldn't he be making in roads at potential replacements now anyways?

No coach would ever snitch about that becuase if they did it would be a career death sentence. Potential ADs wouldnt trust them to keep secrets? And it's not like Fuente has to know that's going on. Quite frankly if he's got any kind of brain, he should know he's probably sitting on a very hot seat with these performances so it shouldnt be a shocker.

I'm just spit balling at this point tbh, trying to make sense why I dont see the 'Fuente has been fired' tweet because I'm ready and waiting for it.

They'll really get after ya

Not sure how a $10M gift cloud is a very hot seat....

I point to the USCe firing, I'm sure they didnt want to pay the buyout but at what point do you cost yourself future revenue for the sake of avoiding short term losses...

Idk, maybe I've convinced myself fuente knows his seat is hot. maybe it's not hot at all and we're all just yelling into the void. Maybe VT is destined to become another afterthought. I dont want to see our program beaten into the purgatory of no mans land college football because we dont wanna spend 10 mil...

They'll really get after ya

Was curious so I looked it up and Muschamp's buyout was $13.2 million.

What is interesting about that article is that USC's contract offset mitigation is 75% so they could make a lot of that money back with him getting a good gig next year. Hopefully our contract terms are similar and Fuente can rebound on to another staff quickly.

I know nothing about how good (or more likely, bad) USCe was playing. But tbh even if we had that kind of mitigation who would hire him based on his performance at VT? Would have to be a desperate mid major school or fcs....

And that, I wish, should give Whit plenty of reason to fire him

They'll really get after ya

Hyptothetically, if VT had the same buyout terms as USC....

Fuente would get the $10M over the remaining 3 years of the contract ($3.3M/yr). Let's just say he takes a year off and then lands an OC gig in 2022 for ~$600,000. That salary offsets the buyout:

2021: $3.3M
2022: $2.7M
2023: $2.7M

That makes it a bit easier to swallow as $8.7 million or $2.9M over the next 3 years. I feel like our athletic department can withstand that.

According to other posts on TKP, there is no offset clause so while your example is correct it doesn't apply to Fuente.

04 Hokie here. I've spent more on donations and tickets (etc) than I did for my education- OUT OF STATE.

Perhaps I was a bit spoiled with Vick, Beamer and all those top 25 teams. Idk.

I've missed less than 10 home games this millennium (2020 excluded) and I live 4 hours from Lane.

I'm sad to say I'm done. But I am. This was pitiful. I won't be watching the final 2 games.

I already donated my 2020 $2k ticket purchase to the keep jumping fund, but this is it. If Fuente is retained I will not purchase tickets, nor watch in 2021.

Looking forward to the next coach. Y'all enjoy the rest of FU!

Beat GT

today is truly what it feels like to be a UVA fan, I don't see how we win another game this year

I went to a friend's house, whose a VT alum, and we watched college football... Just not the VT game. I think that says a lot.

I don't even care.

"Take care of the little things and the big things will come."

I've been getting apathetic over the last couple of years only to get excited at the beginning of the year. That's quickly gone away to the point where I haven't even watched the last couple of games, just kept up with comments on TKP and score on ESPN. Even that'll stop with this game since I honestly felt no emotion about the loss, so why bother keeping up with it? I'll see you guys when we have a new coach - something I'll also tell VT the next time they reach out about donations. All the best to all of you.

Spending three hours on Saturday is a time investment. Based on the last three games, I decided the program was not worthy of my time. I have more important things to do.

I got some critical pre Thanksgiving maintenance around the house done. Wife and I went out shopping for Christmas decor and then had sushi.

I monitored the game periodically on my phone. I saw what a piece of garbage it was becoming.

I made the right choice. Not investing any more time or money until there is a course correction.

Watching the 2nd half knowing we have at least 3 more games of this.

Tyrod did it Mikey, Tyrod did it!!

This is why I didn't watch the second half. I watched cartoons with my 2-year-old twins. And we played with dinosaur stickers. It was very therapeutic.

I'm sure we can apply for a waiver to get excluded from a bowl... or just not accept. Would be symbolic to reject an offer, end the streak, and begin, the process of rebuilding.

I was laughing hysterically watching this game. It was either that or crying.

Hurts me to say this, but I'm pretty happy that I decided to go skiing today instead of watching this game.

Me and the Tottenham gang had a semi good day today🤘🤘😎

We were born for one thing
Tame the greatest fear of all
We were born for one thing
Born to face the greatest fear of all

In the first half I did see more of what I had seen before - the corners were sitting so so far off the receivers that Pitt was able to just take what we gave them, which was a ton. We also don't appear to be too interested in tackling. JHam is learning the hard way, big growing pains there.

I had the second half on but muted because I was on a zoom call but it looks like we didn't score in the second half but I wasn't really paying attention. I would leave Cornelsen on the tarmac immediately. We didn't even get 25 minutes of time of possession.

At least Wisconsin lost and Penn State is 0-5 for the first time in school history.

You would let him get all the way to the tarmac? I would have him tied to his chair in the booth, with the door jammed, without access to a cell phone.

At this point I really am sad Bud never got a shot at the head job.

ESPN. The coverage is excellent, you'd be surprised at how much you can pick up.

Yeah, would it be possible to work a negotiated buyout with Fuente that includes Bud Foster being head coach for the Virginia game, and would that make Bud eligible for the College Football Coach Hall of Fame? Given the write off that this season is, we could at least make a little lemonade out of this huge lemon.

The LewDew, Professional Golf Bum

I think he has to spend at least 3 years as HC but i can't remember for sure.

(4) I will start a GoFundMe for a Fuente buyout on request.

already done

It's always darkest before the dawn ~ Thomas Fuller

In a different spin - if you were the AD for NC State, Duke, BC, and Louisville, how could you keep a straight face at the end of the year evaluations and you asked the HC how they managed to lose to VT?

Can't wait to hear what Coach Eeyore says about this one. 2020 has been a rough year on just about everyone and foolishly enough like previous years past I got excited. I got excited that maybe at least in the end of this shit we would have a team who had the ability to finally put it all together. Ha! Got me again, and for the last time there Fuente. I've never seen a team who looked the best in their first game. Almost 30 players and coaches out and they actually set a tone. As we healed and got people back they've looked worse and worse.

he is probably gonna have a smug look on his face when he tries to explain himself. Honestly, fuck what he has to say,

Quincy can't buy his way onto the field, even in a goal line package? If you're going to insist on QB powering your way down the entire field, give it a shot with the guy best suited for it. That goal line "drive" at the one was laughable. And then you put him in the last series of the game. He's going to be in the portal before the buses warm up.

As a quarterback? I love the guy but you can't be a quarterback if you throw the ball in the dirt.

Hooker was doing the same on his screens. Throwing high all game. If you're going to insist on running the QB 15-20 times a game, and it's all QB power, why not give it to the big guy to save Hooker the beating?

At this point, I'm just hoping we get a good draft pick.

The doll's trying to kill me and the toaster's been laughing at me.

Sorry to disappoint ya bud...think you got the wrong league there...


Is coronavirus over yet?

After seeing the result, I was meh. I expected it, but it still sucks to see we got absolutely slaughtered by a team ranked 92 in total offense with 16 guys out. I didn't watch the game, didn't care to.

But HOLY FUCKING SHIT after reading Fuente's post game comments on the Twitter, I'm PISSED. He's got some nerve saying that taking the play calling from Corn is "ludicrous" given how bad it is. Fire him now. Fuck the buyout. He clearly doesn't give a shit what happens, he's just waiting for a big pay day. Give it to him with some shit in a paper bag. I wonder if his asshole ever gets jealous of the shit that comes out of his mouth...
Rant over.

"It's a miracle in Blacksburg, TYROD DID IT MIKEY, TYROD DID IT!"

I honestly did not expect this kind of outing unless the team totally gave up, but I don't think that happened. This team just is not good. Teams have figured Hooker out and the defense doesn't have enough magic wands to fix what is going on. I get no enjoyment out of calling for any persons job, so I guess I will check back in before the Clemson game.

"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." - K

I live in texas and bought season tickets a couple years ago. I watched every second of the last frank years. I never left a game early, even the 30-6 Miami beatdown I was in North Endzone until the end. I stopped watching the game today, for the first time ever. I checked the score later and said "oh fuck", but didnt care.

This feels like the final season of game of thrones that was so bad it severred my emotional connection and I laughed at the horribleness

Danny is always open

Coooaaaching for a buyout
Can't recruit at all
Don't trust my players
Conservative playcalls

Neeevvver watch gamefilm
Don't want to coach dogs
Noooo fans or media
Alumniiiiii freaks out

Fuente lost to Pat Narduzzi. Twice. Do we need any other reason to fire him?

I'm out, this seasons down the drain, play calling on offense has been shit and execution on the defense has been atrocious. Dax plays well last week and now he's benched? Last week didn't bother me and today I never thought we were going to win and lo and behold I got a solid nap in instead of watching that crap. Feel bad for fu he sounded beat in the post game interview but sometimes it doesn't work out. If it wasn't for the UVA game.i could see this team quiting by now

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Dax is usually in the wrong gap but daggone if that guy doesn't love tackling people and if he isn't the most enthusiastic player we've had since Sam Rogers then slap my backside and call me Wilbur.

How I feel watching this team every Saturday


I got married today, I checked the score at halftime and decided it wasn't worth my time. I chose to be happy instead, thoughts and prayer to you all who watched it.


Congrats! You got married on the same day Justin Fuentes coached his last game. A day you'll always remember :)

We put the K in Kwality


I don't know what a Hokie is, but God is one of them!

Congrats! 🍾

If you were ever going to get married during football season, this is the season to do it.

Well done! Congrats!

or next season...

VT Marketing Class of 2009
Current Roanoke-Hokie
Go Hokies!



It's an unwritten law that it's my lunch pail. I've issued the challenge. If someone outworks me, they can get it.
Darryl Tapp


I spent my day surfing and hiking. As I said 3 weeks ago, I was done and checked out. I didn't even follow the game score periodically. This is asinine, bordering gross negligence by the coaching staff, which could be fireable without the buyouttttttttttt :) ;)

For those who can't give it up yet, just know that we're going to get beat every game and take the occasional win as a big positive...laugh off the rest. When you're ready to stop watching, make the best of your Saturday's like I and others here have done!

I'm still out on Hokie football until there are firings. Still love all my fellow Hokies, though. All the best to each of you!

I'm a few minutes in and it sounds like Hill is taking a measured approach here, and I'll toot my own saddle here when he says that there are so many things piling on right now.

Who in hell will Tech be able to get to take over this train wreck?

Fuente makes me want to turn off the TV when VT plays.

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

"I miss bud" and "Jham is in over his head" are legit contradicting statements since bud went to bat for Jham. I'm assuming buds reference check went further than getting someone to pony up some money for Odom. Well here we are, thanks bud. Yea, the offense has their own issues, but the defense is awful due to bud and his referral.

I'm not sure the defense deserves the harsh criticism. They started off fairly well, holding Pitt to field goals on their first three scores. Actually FG, punt, Int, FG, FG, 3 and out, TD, 3 and out. Meanwhile the VT offense was doing mostly 3 and outs. Actually three 3 and outs, a fumble, turnover on downs after 4 plays; one 8 play drive; one 9 sec, 1 play TD and one 8 play, 2 min drive for a TD; and VT had the ball when the half ended. Overall, we lost the TOP battle 36 min to 24 min. The defense was on the field too long. I thought they played well enough in the first half. In the second half, the offense started with an Int; then downs, missed FG, downs and had the ball when the game ended. After the int, the defense forced another 3 and out; then the floodgates opened and they could not get a stop. Give the D some credit; they worked their tails off; there just aren't enough of them and Pitt wore them out.

Doesn't matter if it's cake or pie as long as it's chocolate.

I don't even know the final score.

Wow we did get bitch slapped.

Even when you get skunked; fishing never lets you down. 🎣

One of the most glaring things about the Fuente era is how many times I see an individual or team record about to be, or being broken.

Last night it was DJ Turner. Almost setting the record for receptions.

Earlier it was the UNC running back duo rushing yards.

I can't think off the top of my head all the rest. (Maybe the ODU passing offense?). But it is symptomatic of coaching and not being able to adjust.

It's just disheartening

Overheard as Duke assistant coaches took elevator down from press box: “Guys, they stopped the run with a three-man front.” - David Teel Tweet 2018