Scoring average against P5 Schools

By: KingJames

🥒🥒🥒🥒🥒

on September 4, 2020, 10:28 AM | 33 comments

Since this has come up in a couple of threads about how much should we be scoring, and we are only playing conference teams, lets take a look at the data. I removed all schools that played less than 4 games (which only one non-P5 team played 4 P5 teams so kudos to Lincoln Riley's ECU team. As marked 2013 was non-AQ teams not P5, so slightly different teams in there.

Virginia Tech is there in 2009 (31.5), 2010 (33.4), 2016 (33.3), and 2019 (32.4).

	2019		2018		2017		2016		2015		2014		2013 (non-aq)		2012		2011		2010		2009
1	LSU	47	Oklahoma	48.8	Oklahoma State	43.8	Oklahoma	44.5	Baylor	43.3	TCU	45.5	Florida State	47.9	Oregon	48.3	Oklahoma State	46.6	Oregon	42.7	Oregon	39.1
2	Ohio State	44.8	Clemson	45.7	Oklahoma	43.3	Pittsburgh	41.9	Oklahoma	43	Baylor	44.9	Baylor	47.2	Baylor	42.4	Baylor	43.5	Wisconsin	42.4	Cincinnati	36.7
3	Alabama	43.7	Alabama	43.4	Ohio State	40.3	Louisville	41.4	Texas Tech	41.6	Oregon	43.9	Oregon	43.8	Oklahoma State	40.5	Oregon	43.3	Oklahoma State	41.5	Texas	35.1
4	Clemson	42.2	Ohio State	41.8	Arizona	39.6	Washington	40.4	North Carolina	39.7	Ohio State	43.5	Ohio State	43.5	Clemson	40	Stanford	42	Stanford	39.3	Stanford	34.9
5	Oklahoma	39.3	West Virginia	39.2	Penn State	38.7	Texas Tech	39.6	Oregon	39.7	Michigan State	38.5	Texas A&M	40.1	Texas A&M	39.3	Wisconsin	41.7	Oklahoma	38.6	Texas Tech	34.7
6	Washington State	35.8	Syracuse	39.1	Georgia	36.5	Alabama	38.8	Oklahoma State	38.9	Georgia	37.8	Arizona State	38.5	Kansas State	38.1	Texas A&M	38.6	Auburn	37.4	Georgia Tech	33.5
7	Minnesota	34.2	Washington State	35.7	Louisville	36.2	Clemson	38.4	Clemson	38.6	Georgia Tech	37.5	Clemson	38	Alabama	38	Oklahoma	36.8	Ohio State	34.3	Oregon State	33.2
8	USC	33.7	Michigan	34.6	Alabama	34.6	Penn State	38.3	Stanford	38.3	California	36.9	Missouri	37.4	North Carolina	36.9	USC	35.8	Arkansas	34.1	Virginia Tech	31.5
9	Louisville	33.3	Oklahoma State	34.2	Auburn	34	Oklahoma State	37.6	TCU	38.3	East Carolina	35.3	Auburn	37.1	Arizona	36.7	West Virginia	34.5	Illinois	33.7	Arkansas	31.2
10	Texas	33.2	Georgia	33.6	Wake Forest	33.9	Michigan	37.3	Ohio State	36	Nebraska	35	Alabama	37.1	Ohio State	36.7	LSU	34.1	Virginia Tech	33.4	Clemson	30.9
11	Utah	32.4	Missouri	32	Texas Tech	32.9	Tennessee	37	Indiana	35.3	Alabama	34.2	Washington	36.8	Nevada	36.7	Michigan	34	Baylor	33	Notre Dame	30.5
12	Virginia Tech	32.4	Texas A&M	32	USC	32.8	Washington State	37	Arizona State	34.6	Oklahoma	33.9	Oklahoma State	35.7	Oklahoma	36.6	Arkansas	33.7	Kansas State	32.3	Connecticut	30
13	Oregon	31.9	Purdue	31.5	Washington	32.7	California	35.4	Arkansas	34.4	Mississippi State	33.8	Georgia	35.2	West Virginia	36.5	Kansas State	33.3	Alabama	32.1
14	Boston College	31.9	Texas	31.3	Arizona State	32.5	Ohio State	35.2	Mississippi	34	Florida State	33.7	Indiana	34.6	Florida State	35.9	Washington	33.1	North Carolina State	31.1
15	Florida	31.7	North Carolina State	31.1	Notre Dame	32	Oregon	33.8	Alabama	33.3	Arizona	33.4	UCF	34	Georgia	34.8	Clemson	32.7	Georgia	30.1
16	Iowa State	30.8	Notre Dame	30.9	North Carolina State	31.9	Virginia Tech	33.3	California	33	USC	33.2	Texas Tech	33.7	Texas	34.7	Arizona State	32.6
17	Notre Dame	30.8	Texas Tech	30.8	Oregon	31.4	USC	32.5	Washington State	32.8	UCLA	32.8	Oregon State	33.4	Arizona State	34	Alabama	31.9
18	Michigan	30.3	Iowa	30.4	Wisconsin	31.2	Arizona State	32.4	UCLA	32.5	Auburn	32.6	Wisconsin	33.3	Texas Tech	33.6	Missouri	31
19	Baylor	30.1	Arizona	30.3	Stanford	30.5	Baylor	31.8	West Virginia	32.5	Arizona State	32.2	UCLA	33	Georgia Tech	33.3	Georgia Tech	30.4
20	Oregon State	30.1	Penn State	30.1	West Virginia	30.4	Florida State	31.7	Tennessee	31.9	Wisconsin	32	Kansas State	32.6	UCLA	33
21	Auburn	30.1	LSU	30	Texas A&M	30.1	Texas A&M	31.1	Notre Dame	31.8	Kansas State	32	Stanford	32	Louisville	32.1
22							Utah	31	Michigan	31.7	West Virginia	31.8	LSU	31.6	Northwestern	31.2
23							West Virginia	30.2	Nebraska	31.5	South Carolina	31.3	South Carolina	31.1	Tennessee	31.2
24									Arizona	30.9	Washington State	31	Oklahoma	31.1	Miami (Florida)	30.8
25									LSU	30.2	Notre Dame	30	Duke	31	USC	30.7
26									USC	30			Cincinnati	30.6	Wisconsin	30.5
27													Arizona	30.4	Cincinnati	30.3
28													Michigan	30.2	Syracuse	30.2
29													Georgia Tech	30	Penn State	30.1

To sumerize the data (which really shows that 2012-2015 were high scoring years, but possibly defense, or rules have caught up):

	2019	2018	2017	2016	2015	2014	2013	2012	2011	2010	2009
Teams over 35 PPG	6	7	7	14	11	9	13	14	8	6	3
Teams over 30 PPG (4 game min)	21	21	21	23	26	25	29	21	19	15	12
All teams over 30 PPG	29	33	31	31	35	32	34	35	28	22	17

Now lets look at the ACC conference

	2019		2018		2017		2016		2015		2014		2013		2012		2011		2010		2009
1	Clemson	48	Clemson	46.7	Louisville	36.5	Louisville	45.9	North Carolina	41.9	Georgia Tech	37	Florida State	50.7	Clemson	46.5	Clemson	34.2	Virginia Tech	35.8	Clemson	33.6
2	Louisville	35.3	Syracuse	39.8	Clemson	32.8	Pittsburgh	44.6	Clemson	38.8	Florida State	35.9	Clemson	40.4	Florida State	37.7	Florida State	31.3	North Carolina State	32.3	Virginia Tech	33.6
3	Boston College	33.1	North Carolina State	33.4	Wake Forest	31.3	Clemson	39.8	Duke	27.5	Pittsburgh	30.8	Miami	31.3	North Carolina	37.3	North Carolina	28.1	Florida State	30.2	Florida State	33.5
4	Virginia Tech	32.8	Georgia Tech	33	North Carolina State	29.9	Virginia Tech	34.1	North Carolina State	27.4	North Carolina	30	Georgia Tech	31.1	Georgia Tech	37.2	Georgia Tech	28	Maryland	28.8	Georgia Tech	33.3
5	Virginia	29.6	Pittsburgh	31	Georgia Tech	28	Florida State	30	Virginia	27.1	Duke	27	Duke	29.4	Miami	35.4	Wake Forest	27.5	Miami	25.6	Miami	31.6
6	Wake Forest	29.4	Wake Forest	29.1	Boston College	25.5	Miami	29.4	Pittsburgh	27	Louisville	27	North Carolina	28.1	North Carolina State	28.4	Miami	27.4	North Carolina	24.4	Wake Forest	28.3
7	North Carolina	29.3	North Carolina	27	Miami	24.4	North Carolina	28.5	Florida State	27	Clemson	25.5	Boston College	26.8	Duke	28.1	Virginia Tech	25.8	Duke	24.3	North Carolina State	26.6
8	Miami	26.3	Boston College	26.1	Syracuse	23.6	Georgia Tech	24.8	Louisville	26	North Carolina State	24.6	Virginia Tech	22.8	Virginia Tech	24.1	North Carolina State	25.8	Georgia Tech	23.6	Duke	23.3
9	Florida State	25.9	Miami	24.6	Virginia Tech	23.1	Syracuse	23.9	Virginia Tech	25.4	Miami	23.9	Pittsburgh	22.4	Virginia	21	Maryland	23.8	Clemson	20.3	Boston College	21.8
9	Duke	25.9	Virginia Tech	24.5	Pittsburgh	22.8	North Carolina State	21.6	Syracuse	25.3	Boston College	22.9	Maryland	20.1	Maryland	19.5	Virginia	19.9	Virginia	20	North Carolina	20.9
11	Syracuse	25.3	Virginia	24.3	Virginia	20.1	Duke	20.9	Miami	24.9	Virginia	20.9	North Carolina State	16.9	Boston College	19.3	Duke	19.5	Wake Forest	16.9	Maryland	20.1
12	Pittsburgh	19.9	Duke	22	Duke	19.8	Virginia	20.6	Georgia Tech	23.5	Virginia Tech	19.4	Virginia	16.5	Wake Forest	16.5	Boston College	17.4	Boston College	16.8	Virginia	15.4
13	Georgia Tech	19.1	Florida State	20.4	Florida State	19.5	Wake Forest	17.5	Wake Forest	15	Syracuse	12.9	Wake Forest	15.5
14	North Carolina State	16.1	Louisville	20.3	North Carolina	19.3	Boston College	12	Boston College	9.1	Wake Forest	12.1	Syracuse	15.5

Only once, 2010, did we score over 35 PPG in conference. Against, 2009, 2010, 2016, and 2019 we scored over 30 PPG in conference as we did out of conference. In 2009 and 2010 we led the conference in PPG (in conference games). Each of those years we did better in conference than out of conference.