April 2021 Fishing Thread

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Gotten out a couple times on the river and found some nice cats. Shad bite hadn't been hot for spinning gear when I've been out. Fly rod guys were getting them more consistently. Biggest cat was 43 lbs, a few in the high teens to low 20s.

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good lord!

Yeah, what Dave said. That, and I'm not showing my kids these, they'll never get in the water again. Nice fish!!

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Those things are tame in comparison to a toothy 40" Musky.

I'd agree with that. I believe Musky are more ambush than catfish.

I don't have much fear of swimming anywhere unless there's some shark attacks recently.

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Hokie, Are you a musky nut too?

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No, but have fished and swam in the rivers that hold them. I actually touched the side of a small gar fish while swimming in a Florida river but I don't think I would do that to a Musky.

Nice cats! What river?

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Pretty work. Nice ride too.

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It's my buddy's Carolina Skiff 218 DLV. Pretty good boat for my buddies first one. Not smoothest ride but we take it on the bay regularly during cobia season.

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Oh baby 3rdGen, where's my invite.

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I hope to get out in April at least.

Holy smokes bud, those are some big cats. Great job

If it ain't orange, it better be maroon...and if it ain't maroon, it better be soon!

Thanks! Definitely can't complain about them but there's some real monsters out there double that size

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Got a late start this am but finally got back out for a couple hours. As I'm leaving, Mrs D says "catch a redfish on your last cast for dinner". I said I'd rather catch it on the first cast...picked up a small slot red on cast number 4 or 5, lol. And that was about it, just one other small (13") flounder; both on Slayer's version of "opening night" (purple haze) on a gold trout eye jig.

I launched in Palm Valley instead of St Aug, just to play the projected wind. Surprised to see the water up there is still stained. Maybe should have stayed in the 'hood; ocean blue/green down here. But really no good options if the wind kicks up.

Should have put this in the April report, but pictures from this past weekend.

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looks like a future OG, OC, or NT to me; will probably like cheese : )

Finally able to check in. Hi guys! Been a while!

Work's been nuts and I started selling flies in the Ace Hardware on Marco, so I've had time to fish for exactly 20 minutes over the past 4 weeks... On the plus side, I caught 4 speckled trout in that 20 minute session. Other than that, y'all keep posting big ass fish so I can keep being jealous!!

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I'm scheduled to be at a conference in Marco on 7/21. May or may not try to fish. Will double back with you early that month to see if it might be worth the effort. I want to catch a snook, even a little one, really bad.

If you want snook Marco is a great spot to do that, early morning crack of dawn can be killer to sight fish them off the beach. I dunno about that time of year well but in the summer they love anything that imitates a bait fish

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You should! I should be into a slow(er) time work wise then and would probably be able to take a half day to fish. Beach fishing around that time is absolute fire normally. Anything about 3 to 4 inches long and white in color ought to do just fine off the beach!

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Beachfront sounds great...and easy.

Finally got to the New in spring and aside from the one musky landed the trip was a bust, the smallmouth would not eat anything we threw in any manner of presentations and when we finally caught one we realized they were still really lethargic and had little to no energy it seems. Looks like we were a week or two early for the smallies but atleast the musky kept us entertained all three days. Fished three whole days and between two of us we landed 3 smallmouth and 1 musky so yeah next year I'll probably stick to turkey hunting or atleast just focus on musky and leave the bronze guys be. We fished every bait in the box over the three days and tried every trick we knew outside of chucking suspending cranks as we dont usually carry them and didnt have them on this trip either. The musky was fun and we got it in quickly and back out to swim another day, he was about 29 inches and 6-7 pounds looked to be spawned out.

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Gotta get out and get the experience. It's all building and you will be on em next year. Glad you could get a couple nice fish.

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It couldve been 2 inches for all I cared I was elated to simply hook something other than a log or rock for once. Some days its catching the other days its really fishing.

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That's a rough outing, but at least you didn't get skunked. Early spring is always hit or miss it seems. I've not fished the New in a couple of years, and would love to get up there after turkey season. It seems like late April / early May were always good times to be on the river when I lived in Blacksburg. Shitty thing is the best spawn window is a couple of weeks and can get blown out by spring rains, so it's hard to hit it right. Keep at it. Nice musky!

Dont get me wrong I had a blast still just the fishing for smallies was a bust. I'm still over the moon that we managed to catch a musky and see a bunch more it felt good to do that atleast. We were really hoping to hit the pre-spawn feed but judging by the fish we caught and the lack of any locals out either looks like we were off by a week or two but the prespawn bite is difficult to plan on. Until we caught one finally we actually were worried we had arrived on the spawn and that was why they had lock jaw but looks like the temps need to rise a little bit more is all.

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Very quiet on the fishing front this week, other than hearing good tuna fishing off the OBX.

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Things are lighting up in SC, probably the best inshore fishing of spring this past week or two. I've been head down at work and spending any free time I've got trying to get this boat done before summer.

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Trying to prep and make plans with all the folks I try to fish with that I didn't get to join last year. Hopefully people still like me enough that I get a ride or two. I have a feeling piers will be insano this year.

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Hello from Big Pine Key. Day 8. Haven't done a ton of hardcore fishing as I'm visiting and hanging with friends traveling the world on their sailboat. We've been drinking, snorkeling, drinking, fishing, drinking, exploring.... you get the idea. I've seen a few tarpon, countless sharks, and six permit of which I had a shot at one but he didn't see the fly. Yesterday I finally caught my first bonefish! Found a school of 40 of them pushing down a bank that I'd scouted for two years now. It paid off. Ended up catching my second a few casts later. They were both smaller fish, 3 pounders, but man they are fast when hooked. The wind is honking today so I'm getting some work done and heading to the Everglades tomorrow for a day or two before up to Sarasota to visit family, then back to RVA. Will post a full report when I return.

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Hell yeah! Congrats on the nice bone!

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Damnit, I tried to avoid that by not calling it a Boner like some guys do... Fail.

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Took a trip to Cedar Island, NC with the wife last week. We took our kayaks out and paddled around the bays and sandbars. caught about 100 stingrays, no fish. i should have switched to artificial bait, but was more into drinking beers while my bait soaked. it was a good time regardless. That area is great for kayakers between the sound and marsh areas, it would take a year to see it all.

It is a beautiful area with a lot to explore for sure. Glad you had a good time

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my sister lives in MHC and I have yet to visit; should I take my 'yak when I go? Map says Cedar Island is about an hour away.

I would say you should. Gives you more options than being on foot. There's plenty of areas to drop in a kayak.

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I'd say definitely. There's great kayaking all over that area, not just Cedar Island.

Yes. Tons of options all around MHC up to Cedar Island. Cedar Island is a 50 minute drive up "Down East" from MHC. Some serious backwoods NC landscape

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Back home in green Virginia. Not a ton more to add to my previous report except for one solid day of fishing. I spent 16 days in Florida and mostly hung out with my friends and didn't do a ton of hardcore fishing. Got in a few spurts here and there over ten days. Caught those two bonefish and got my friend Tommy about fifty 15-30" cuda on the spin rod. I fished one morning with a friend of mine from VA who knows several flats down there but we found zilch. Also tried one night off of the docks at Key West. Caught a small jack but there were tarpon rolling in the channel, though I couldn't get an eat. I saw eight permit total and had one shot at one that wasn't very good. The bonefish made the fishing trip for me. It was right at the beginning of Tarpon season but I didn't stake out for them. Next spring I'll try under the bridges at night per the recommendation of a local guy I met down there. The last 2 days in the Keys the weather was shit so no fishing occurred. We did snorkel one day off of Looee Key which was really cool. A huge 300-400 pound Goaliath Grouper hung out under the boat eyeballing us and all of the yellow tails around. I tried swimming at him for a pet but he didn't oblige. That fish was bigger than I am. Right before I dropped my friends off we swung by their friends house which had a big salt pound out back. Baby tarpon were rolling everywhere and I just couldn't help myself. Hooked 3 and landed one, my smallest ever and about a pound. Those would be really fun pets. The guy next door said they grow to 50 pounds and then leave.

I drove to the Everglades on Thursday and fished my secret creek for the evening. 80 pound tarpon rolled but the tide was incoming. No bites. Saw numerous saltwater crocs in the 6-12 foot range. They are wild looking and I confirmed with a park ranger they were indeed crocs and not gators. The next morning I put in on the inside of Flamingo and decided to hit a few of my spots there. Took a wrong left turn and got a bit lost. Another guide passed me and waved. I decided to follow him and ended up taking a southern route all through the inside and ended up on the western portion near the Shark River. He posted up and fished a bank out of the wind, so I went a little further and did the same. The water was off color but fishable, low tide incoming. I ended up seeing one 25" snook and two grouper like looking fish way up under some tree branches. All of them unreachable by any sort of fishing tackle. Hooked a blow toad and few mangrove snapper. Continued hitting various banks out of the wind but the wind was blowing me around still and at one point I made a cast and then had to reset the boat with the trolling motor. I went to pick up my fly out of the water and it was stuck on what I assumed to be a mangrove root. I set the hook just in case and lo and behold said root started to move. The fish rose near the surface and I saw a very large black back, some type of grouper. I pulled on it and got him away from the mangroves but I think at that point he finally woke up. The fish just started swimming back at the mangroves and there was absolutely nothing I could do to stop it. Cranked the drag on the fly reel all the way down. Pulled on him with a bend deep in the rod. Nothing. Finally clamped on the line and pointed the fly rod straight at the fish. I was using 30 pound leader so I felt pretty good about it. He just kept pulling and I looked down and noticed now he was towing me, and the boat, back towards the mangrove. Finally he got up in it and broke me off. Holy shit. Strongest fish I've ever hooked. I needed a 12 weight, not an 8. Not sure how big it was but I'm going to guess 25 pounds.

I pushed down the next bank with a fresh Mule Driver fly on and spotted a tail sticking out of the water. Made a very short cast to it and the fish flattened out, turned and ate the fly... def another grouper. I set the hook hard, clamped on the line and hit my trolling motor on 10 and dragged that fish out of the mangroves, 20 yards to open water where I was able to actually fight it. Still an incredible pull and it was taking drag back to the sticks. This one I was able to get the boga on. Turned out to be a 13 pound "baby" Goliath Grouper. I got a lot of photos and sent him back on his way. That fish was half the size of the previous one that I couldn't stop.

I collected myself and continued fishing for another few hours, but at this point the tide was getting high and most of the casts against the banks were fruitless. Got one small snook and a few more mangrove snapper. I did see one large sandy bottom that turned out to be a monster tarpon. Unfortunately I threw the fly at the wrong end of the fish. He eventually spooked as I drifted too close. I packed up and ran out of Shark River all the way back down to Flamingo. Gorgeous weather as the wind died off and water was fairly clear, I've only ever seen it chocolate milk in this outside area. I fished a bank I've done well on with snook and got nothing. Back to my secret creek with a perfect falling tide but absolutely nothing going on except for crocs. I'm guessing the high sun had something to do with it. I took off to the south to see what Florida Bay was like. Very, very cool when the weather is good. Several other guides were staked out for tarpon in basins. I floated a flat with semi-clear water and saw a few redfish and trout but the wind and sun were not lined up for me for good shots. Got off the flat just in the nick of time as the tide dropped. Very easily could have run back to the Keys on the outside of the Florida Bay islands. There is so much water down there to fish. Overall I ran about 100 miles that day and made one massive loop. It was really cool to explore and I enjoy riding around and checking new areas out just as much as fishing.

I took off and headed to Sarasota to visit my grandmother for Friday night and Saturday. Her condo overlooks Sarasota Bay. From the 7th floor I can see the hundreds of snook swimming around the dock lights at their marina. The snook were there per the usual and for the first time in my life, I left them alone, I was too damn tired. Saturday the wind was howling and I headed north towards Steinhatchee. My guide friend up there said it was really bad and not worth fishing that evening. I stopped by Cedar Key to investigate that whacky little island and it lives up to its billing. Woke up in my truck 6 am Sunday morning after too many gin and tonics on the dance floor with a blonde and a brunette, found my flip flops and dignity and headed to Steinhatchee. Fished the entire day and the wind remained strong, though not 45 miles per hour. More like 18-20 and it made it tough. Saw one red cruising a bank that ignored my fly and hooked another slot one on a plug that came off boatside. Fished the evening low on a great gras flat that is amazing at low tide and saw zilch. Decided to call it quits when the wind suddenly died and the no see ums arrived. Fuck those things. I still hadn't hit a rock yet in my boat and counted my good luck on that and figured the bugs were my cue to head home and I packed up and headed north. The drive out was incredibly pretty, that is by far and away my favorite part of Florida.Huge old growth forests with cattle fields mixed in and very few people. It is awesome. Highly recommend it.

Boat report.... performed admirably. I lost my push pole on the second day when tied up to the sailboat. The rope must've knocked it off. $700 later, I've got a new one. On the way home I noticed some odd wear on one trailer tire which makes no sense to me. It wasn't there earlier in the week. The only guess I have is I hit a pothole and bent the axle again, which would make a common theme for me. I don't recall hitting anything at all. Sigh. We shall see.

The grouper: https://www.instagram.com/p/COIx74wh5Vc/

Baby tarpon: https://www.instagram.com/p/CN8RrHYjfzT/

The Bonefish fly: https://www.instagram.com/p/COBLk8rBDLK/

Cuda: https://www.instagram.com/p/CN1S0lRDtgV/

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Sounds like a good trip. I've seen quite a few youtubers targeting the juvenile goliaths down there. Seems like a fun time. Only a push pole lost seems like a pretty uneventful trip for you. Always appreciate your report.

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Thanks, I'll have to check out those videos. I'd definitely like to do it again

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Those things are absolute tanks, and resilient little bastards too. When I was out in Goodland bay earlier this year and saw all those fish floating, baby goliaths were the only fish I saw alive on that day.

Idk exactly where, but there's a few passes in the 10K islands that have rocky bottom that a bunch of guys just sit there and jig them up all day.

Glad to hear you had a good trip though! Wish work wasn't so crazy and we could have met up for a little while.

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EliasV did a bunch of videos down there. Bouncing jigs off rocky bottom.

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Didn't even cross my mind lol. One track mindset of fishing

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Pretty sure the boat problems are simply the price for getting to do amazing stuff like that all the time and in a way not the worst trade off. Sounds like a blast going after the baby grouper with light tackle, they sound like they fight like a tripletail on steroids.

Kind of hoping when we are down there in 2 weeks that the guide can find one for the wife so she doesnt keep on about wanting to catch a full grown adult. Then again maybe I could us the humor of watching her try and fight a fish three times her size.

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I ran over to Aylett during my lunch break today. I managed three hickory shad and a nice crappie on a chartreuse and red shad dart before running back. All the hickories looked spawned out.

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Thank you for the info. I am guiding there tomorrow.

Client caught 100 white perch and one shad today on the James, with one 11 pound flathead catfish coming on the shad fly rig. No stripers, but saw one landed by a bait fisherman.

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Know a couple fly fisherman that caught stripers in the James about 10 days ago while on a shad outing.

We saw one follow a perch in. Tried a lot but no dice. I hate fishing the James

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Hope you find them. Water is very copper colored, but the fish were still shy with 10lb mono leaders. There are still some hickories in there. That was the first non-shad I have caught or seen this year in freshwater.

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Water in that river generally has a brownish tinge to it. That's why hot pink and orange work so well I think.

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Nice.
I'll bite: How do you keep the rod on the back of your neck during those pics? You have a clip back there?

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I'm a hunchback.

Actually, while I do have shit posture, the fly rod will balance on my shoulder or neck by the cork grip. It sometimes slides off. I hate the fly rod in mouth look.

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Agreed, good way to get a nasty infection also.

Great write-up, FlyGuy. Loved reading that

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Thanks, I finally read it and he did a lot of editing. Oh well

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Featherslinger and I took the day off and went out early Tuesday. He caught a rockfish off a dock light and I caught 2 docks on the way out. Made it out to our spot for some sunrise topwater trout but no takers. Drifted back into shore and caught a 26" red that must have been in some sort of fight or accident at some point. He was missing some fin and a chunk of his back. I missed that drag-peeling feeling. Found the biggest school we'd ever seen and re-found it one more time. Caught a few high teens reds and another 25" before the wind became unbearable. It sure beat working and not bad for April. Looking forward to this summer.

that is a pretty one. interesting that the colors are so dull. a lot of the early season fish I have seen have been very copper, but the pup i got in the Mobjack was dull.

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Pretty sure I was fishing that same water the other day and my report was similar, but no big ones like that. Caught about 15 fish in between 16-20 inches.

This weeks weather could make this weekend on FIRE if the wind lays down.

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Little boat update. Been working my ass of and haven't had much time to spend on the boat. Here is a pic from a few days ago. I've since stitched in the stringers (dry fitted in the picture). I've made a couple stupid mistakes so far but nothing I haven't been able to fix. Its going to come in around 11'5 OAL.

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Awesome update keep em coming, excited to see the finished product as well. Curious on the overall hours it will take to finish.

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Honestly if I had a week to do nothing but work on this. I'd be done already. Nothing has been time consuming other than letting the resin cure. The estimate on the plans is 50 hours and I'd say that's accurate up until finish work. I imagine the fairing and painting/gel coating will be the two longest procedures for me because I'll be down to the point where I'm out of ways to cover up mistakes.

Still deciding on a couple finish features that I want. Might throw a natural wood look toe rail/rub rail on it. Will for sure have a grab bar but at this rate I'll probably finish around June-July so I have time to figure out the details.

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looks great so far!

What kind of boat are you aiming for here?

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It's a little stitch and glue solo flats boat.

Salt boatworks frs12 plans

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What are you going to build the trailer out of, metal coat hangers?

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Haven't really thought about the trailer yet. It should weigh around 100bs after glass and paint and fit in my pick up. Probably try to repurpose a john boat trailer if I can find one cheap.

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What size motor?

The plans call for up to 6hp. I'll be throwing somewhere between a 6-10 on it depending on what motor I come across. They just vary wildly by weight in that HP range.

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Dont forget the duct tape and zip ties.

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If I've learned one thing it doesn't matter how shitty or nice your trailer is its going to break regardless. Especially if your name is flyguy then it will break twice as much.

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If I've learned one thing it doesn't matter how shitty or nice your trailer is its going to break regardless. Especially if your name is flyguy then it will break twice as much.

Facts and science!

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My family is heading out to OBX first week of June. We were looking at hiring a fishing guide and boat for a day. Would you recommend deep sea fishing or to stay closer to shore in June? I guess what fish would we be looking at catching around this time?

In June, should be tuna, mahi, and marlin. That's a good time to go offshore. Inshore is just going to be trolling for spanish mackerel, which is about like watching paint dry for me. There may be a few cobia left, but most are up in the Bay at that point.

The Pelican and Seaducer are great boats out of Oregon Inlet. The mate for the Seaducer is a good friend of mine. Rigged Up is also a great boat, but not the most family friendly.

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Thanks for the tips. It would be my dad, brother in law (26), brother (20) and I (27) so family friendly wouldn't be too much of a requirement.

Well, they will put you on fish, that is for sure.

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I'm your Huckleberry. How many people?

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It would be 4 possibly 5.

Too many for my boat, unfortunately. I would do an inshore trip for two.

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The trout and puppy drum bite will be very good in the sound then. I think Salt Minded or DOA charters would be able to do 4. I haven't gone on either but listen to their podcast regularly and follow their catches on social media.

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Saltwater license question for you VA/MD guys and gals. In the past I've gotten a VA resident saltwater license and use reciprocity with MD to surf fish on Assateague Island. This year, we bought a travel trailer and will be doing more weekend camping in different locations, some are on the Maryland side of the Chesapeake.

It's needlessly complicated, but it seems as though the VA license will not allow me to fish on the Chesapeake if I'm in MD. However, if I get a Maryland Chesapeake Bay & Coastal Sport Fish License, I'll be able to fish in on the Chesapeake and tidal regions in Maryland as well as all saltwater in VA (through the reciprocity). The only downside is that I'll be paying $5 more for an out of state license in MD, but no big deal.

Do I have all of that correct?

That doesn't add up. I have used my Virginia Saltwater to fish on the Maryland side of the Bay for years, particularly at Sandy Point State Park. I have been checked numerous times by Maryland DNR without an issue.

However, you have to sign up for the Maryland Saltwater Angler Registry. It is free, and you have to carry the print out with your Virginia Saltwater License. https://dnr.maryland.gov/pages/service_fishing_license.aspx#ARR

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I think you're right. I'm already on the Maryland Saltwater Angler Registry. I think what threw me off is that the Maryland license website seemed to distinguish between coastal and Chessapeake fishing. It sounded like the reciprocal license only applied to coastal.

Technically, Murderland claims most of the Bay, but I run around all over the Bay with my VA license and have never had an issue, though I haven't been checked much.

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I have a bunch of the amber prescription med bottles (Publix is no longer taking them back) and am running a test to see if they are compatible with storing zman baits. No issue so far after 4 hours. How long do I give it before it is considered safe?

This is a fascinating experiment and I'm excited to see the results.
Do you plan on letting it sit out in the sun at all to see if heat speeds up/causes a reaction?

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Yesterday was 18 hours in the bottle indoors with no issues.

Today on the sidewalk for 4 hours with the bottle capped in the full sun, outside of bottle measured at 108 degrees, the thickest part of a minnowz (from the rear of the dorsal nearly to the nose) got slightly milky in appearance (uniformly around the body). I'd attribute it to the heat since thinner portions of the body were unimpacted and all parts were were equally exposed/not exposed to sunlight. The was no melting of the bait or the bottle.

The corpse is now lying on an old rod tube outside the house...we'll see how that goes...first in the shade and then, if nothing, into the sun.

Is that chicken on a chain color combo?

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"Houdini" in their lexicon

Curious, what about Zman plastics do you need to store them differently than the bags they come in?

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Zman doesn't play well with a lot of plastics...melting, warping, etc.

The bags they come in are fine, however, I have no interest in carrying around a bunch of bags or to go looking through a stack or binder of bags to find what I want at any given moment.

I also pre-rig my zman baits at the house because they are a pain in the ass to get to stay on a jig head. So I could put a bunch of them in the same bag and go sorting thru them, or I can find a plastic box they won't react with. I have a couple of the latter, the old style clear, hard, easy to break kind. But it occurred to me that they might not react with those prescription bottles, which are a pretty handy size...

Interesting. I remember "rubber" worms warping and melting in my old tackle boxes when I was a kid.

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Zman baits take that to a whole new messy level especially when mixed with other plastics they become a nightmare to clean up as its like they kind of just ooze everywhere and melt into a congealed pile. If you use them keep them seperate or youll have a really sticky mess that is almost impossible to clean up, I've had to chuck a few tackle boxes as even dawn soaking wont take it out.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

with more and more TPE products on the market, some boxes are now being marketed or noted as being TPE safe.

I haven't had it happen yet but I'm confident a TPE bait (Zman, Vudu, Savage Gear, Chasebait, etc) leaning against a PVC rod tube for long enough will melt the rod tube.

Anyway, my prospective pill bottle application...I've actually been prerigging both Zman and regular plastic tails (with a droplet of loctite gel) on jigheads. [The regular tails last much longer because they don't pull down off the barbs as easily. ] And I'll keep a few prerigged tails in a cup holder on the boat console for quick access. But I don't do that with Zman because of the interaction with plastics. With the pill bottles, I could isolate the TPE-based baits in the same cupholder (or shirt pocket) with the others so I don't have to dig out the tackle box to re-rig.

Well that's good to know. Never had an issue with them. I've got some Zman stuff, maybe 5 packs, but they stay in the boat in their packs.

Another reason to stick to fly fishing.

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