HOKIES HOOPS CENTRAL: VIRGINIA TECH HOKIES (11-6, 1-5) AT VIRGINIA (13-3) 7PM ESPNU
Virginia (13-3, 5-2 ACC)
vs. Virginia Tech (11-6, 1-5 ACC)
January 18, 2023
John Paul Jones Arena
7 p.m. ET
ESPNU
Virginia Tech Sports Network
TV Broadcast
ESPNU
Play-by-Play: Dave O'Brien
Analyst: Jay Bilas
Local Radio
Virginia Tech Sports Network
Play-by-Play: Zach Mackey
Analyst: Mike Burnop
Current Spread: Hokies +5.5
Over/Under: -126.5
Season at stake
The Hokies take on the Virginia Wahoos with their season the line. The Hokies are now 11-6 and mired in a five game ACC losing streak facing the Top Ten Wahoos. The Hokies are 56-98 against Virginia.
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The Wahoos are coached by Tony Bennett, who has been at Virginia since 2009. The Wahoos are 329-120 under Bennett, who is now 398-153 as a Head coach with his only other stop was three seasons at Washington State. The Wahoos have reached the post season ten of his thirteen seasons so far with eight NCAA appearances, one tournament cancelled, one National Championship and another NCAA appearance locked in for this season.
Coach Bennett's Wahoos come in 13-3 and 5-2 in the ACC. Their losses are to Pittsburgh, Miami and Houston. Their top wins are over Illinois, Baylor, UNC and Michigan. All three losses were by three baskets or less. The key to beating this team is on the defensive end. Preventing Virginia from having access inside plays a huge role in limiting what this team does overall. Offensively against them only Michigan shot better than 50% from the floor. Miami and Pitt also had the two most free throw attempts against the Wahoos all season. Houston beat them by getting baskets before UVA was set in their defense.
Ben Vander Plas is the most prominent of Virginia's new additions. He transferred from Ohio. Virginia also added four freshmen this year. Isaac McNeely is the only one of the freshmen playing a consistent role this season.
Defensively, Virginia is one of the best at executing the "Pack Line Defense". It is a high pressure, man to man defense that sags to the middle of the court. It is designed to prevent penetration by driving the basketball. The "pack line" is an imaginary line two feet inside the three-point line that all defenders not guarding the current ball handler are never supposed to be outside of. The defender that is on the ball handler is expected to be up close, hand in face to create turnovers on the outside. One other critical aspect of this defense is that it's designed to deny the baseline. Defenders are taught to position themselves to not allow any baseline penetration, relying on help defense to close an adjusted drive to the center of the lane. At the top of the post, expect to see defenders attempt to position themselves somewhat in front of the opposing offensive player to prevent the easy pass to the top of the lane.
The key weakness of this defense is if a team can find open shooters on the perimeter AND hit those shots, the integrity of this defense begins to fall apart. The best way to attack this defense is not allow it to get set by beating the defense down in transition. After that though, employing a four out โ one in offense, initiatially sending shooters to both corners with the ball handler and a second post player or fourth guard at the top of the key evenly spaced to either side, with a post player establishing to the ball handler side of the lane. Then the shooters need to begin constantly rotating around the baseline. This allows the offense to create opportunities either to find an initial open shooter or dribble penetration with the intent to kick out.
Another aspect that can help in attacking this defense are two quick perimeter passes across the top to get the defense moving their feet side to side, and then employing the dribble penetration back across the lane to force defenders to try to reverse their hips. If done quickly you either find open lanes or reaching defenders. Ideally with this roster the dribble penetration is done by Alleyne or Bede. Employing blur screens under a teammate after passing them the ball opens gaps as well at the side, drawing a defender deep into the corner.
Offensively, Bennett has his team running what is called a Blocker Mover Offense on the other end of the court. This is a variation of the Motion Offense, allowing the primary ball handler at the top of the key to attempt to use a screen provided by one of two lane personnel near the top of the key. At the point of the screen, the ball handler decides either to drive the lane, kick out to an open shooter or attempt a down low pass to their second lane player, who usually moves across the basket down at the baseline block to create space for the driving guard. The defensive rotation is what drives the guard's decision-making process as he assesses what is in front of him. The guard essentially has three options coming off the pick or can spin back out to reset for another play. The key for the Hokies will be to limit the times where we allow dribble penetration by Clark or Franklin or allow a clean pass into the lower lane player for an easy layup by Gardner or Shedrick.
Wahoos Backcourt
Armaan Franklin 4 SR G 6-4 195 11.9 Pts, 4.3 Reb, 1.2 Ast
Kihei Clark 0 SR G 5-9 160 11.0 Pts, 2.8 Reb, 6.0 Ast
Reece Beekman 2 JR G 6-3 174 9.9 Pts, 3.4 Reb, 4.9 Ast
Isaac McKneely 11 FR G 6-4 179 5.9 Pts, 1.9 Reb, 0.8 Ast
Wahoos Frontcourt
Jayden Gardner 1 SR F 6-7 235 10.3 Pts, 4.9 Reb, 0.5 Ast
Kadin Shedrick 21 JR F 6-11 216 8.3 Pts, 4.1 Reb, 0.7 Ast
Ben Vander Plas 5 SR F 6-8 232 7.9 Pts, 4.2 Reb, 1.4 Ast
What to expect from Virginia?
All five starters for the Wahoos come in averaging 8.3 or more points per game. Virginia goes two deep on the bench for significant minutes or contributions. This is a developing roster that is well balanced offensively. Four of their five starters have led the team in scoring at least twice, with Griffin the leader five times.
Opponents are averaging an ACC low 61 points per game in ACC play. Opponents in ACC play are shooting 40% from the floor against the Wahoos, second best in the ACC. Virginia does allows 36% on the perimeter.
The Wahoos are committing 9.3 turnovers per game. Clark and Beekman account for half the turnovers. Virginia though forces 13 turnovers per game and average nearly 14 points per contest off turnovers.
The Wahoos commit 15.4 fouls per game. Opponents have shot 14.6 free throw attempts per game so far in ACC play. Only Shedrick averages more than two fouls per game averaging 2.7 fouls per contest. Foul trouble though has been key in their two ACC losses, forcing Bennett to go further than two deep into his bench while allowing Miami and Pitt to score 15 and 17 respectively at the line.
As a team the Wahoos are shooting 39% from the perimeter in ACC play on 21.7 attempts per game (about 42% of total shots). Franklin, Beekman and McNeely all are shooting better than 40% from the perimeter.
Virginia is about even rebounding on both ends. Their defense is designed to alter shots more than box out so this season opponents are averaging 7.7 offensive rebounds per game. There is not one focus point rebounding as four of the seven players average between four and five rebounds per game in ACC play.
The Wahoos rank fourth nationally in assist to turnover ratio averaging 16 assists on 24 made baskets per game in ACC play, roughly 67% of all shots are assisted. Beekman and Clark combine for 11 of the 16 assists per game.
Battle for the Commonwealth โข Part I๐ UVA๐ 7PM๐บ ESPNU#CommonwealthClash ๐ค ยป @SmithfieldBrand pic.twitter.com/yFTd7bVuHpโ Virginia Tech Men's Basketball (@HokiesMBB) January 18, 2023
So many possible innuendos in this tweet.
The Hokies
The Hokies must play under control even if Rice (rumored to have broken a finger) and Cattoor are not able to play. Turnovers will quickly turn a close game against the Wahoos into a rout.
Work the ball into the baseline after drawing the defenders to the free throw line. Basile repeating his performance we saw against Syracuse would be huge for the Hokies.
Tech's perimeter shooting was its second worst of the season against Syracuse at 16% (3-19). The Wahoos are not as strong on perimeter defense as they typically are but the Hokies definitely need to be able to beat the zone and score in the paint.
Virginia does not do well against speed but unfortunately the Hokies are prone to mental mistakes the faster they go. One area the Hokies should look at for options is to extend the defense. Virginia has looked sloppy against full to three quarters press defense. While I don't expect to see this happen it would be refreshing to see if it works early rather than after the game is out of hand.
This is where you ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HIT YOUR FREE THROWS. Virginia sends people to the line rather than give up the easy basket inside. You must be able to convert those trips to points at the line if you hope to leave Charlottesville with a win.
Highlight of the Syracuse Game
Basile playing like a forward. 11-16 inside the perimeter.
Grant has 8 early. El Niรฑo right behind with 6.Keep workin' the heart of that zone ๐ค10:03 | 1H | 20-19 ๐ pic.twitter.com/0Dj1x7f411โ Virginia Tech Men's Basketball (@HokiesMBB) January 12, 2023
In Closing
The points of emphasis in this one is to get Virginia into their bench, talent falls off dramatically outside the starting five. Be strong on rebounding on both ends, especially with how stingy Virginia is on opponent shooting. Create those extra chances.
Double digit second chance points. Find points inside the perimeter, either by score or by foul. Extend the defense and force Virginia to earn every foot.
"We've got to play more sound on both ends of the floor. Are we capable? Absolutely, we're capable. We did it through our first 12 games. Time to play better basketball and get back on the right track."๐ฃ๏ธ CMY pic.twitter.com/Pdj3suepIuโ Virginia Tech Men's Basketball (@HokiesMBB) January 17, 2023
Nothing this team has done this last month gives me confidence that they can do the little things well enough to break the streak. Galls me to predict a Wahoo win but barring a monumental shift in performance that's where this one is headed. UVA wins 65-58.
This is a one Popcorn Decision. Conflict of writing the above sentence but it is where we are.
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Comments
It would be nice if Cattoor plays and/or we can get back to shooting well (something that hasn't happened much the last couple of months), but I ain't banking on it. Really feel like our only chance in this one is a muck it up game where UVA struggles to score (which they are prone to do at times) and we can steal one. Like one of those 57-55 rock fights.
LET'S GO
HOKIES
HOKIES!
I BELIEVE!
FUCK LOLUVA!
Wait....WTF with rice and a broken finger? I haven't heard a peep about it here......
https://www.thekeyplay.com/content/2023/january/18/vt-curse-goes-rice-ou...
Son of a bitch. I don't know how I missed this-
Why can't we have nice things?
Why can't we have Rice things?
If I'm not mistaken, when you break your Rice, you have to put him in a bag of phones.
Cmon basile
Basille is trash.
Game's over.
Put pedulla on the bench, falls asleep defensively and super sloppy handling early.
Game is already over. This team is not good
Basille very indecisive turning down multiple threes he was open to shoot and slow to pass with that telegraph
He also needs to learn to jump when rebounding....
5 minutes in a game and guys saying game is over. Wow. SMH.
I like kidd in there this game; he's bringing physicality on his shots
This team is so freaking soft. I say it every game, but damn...
I'll keep saying it. Kidd needs more minutes.
How we are back in this game I'm lost but I'll take it
Because basketball is streaky, especially as players come in and out.
Not up on all the basketball rules but someone more knowledgeable: why was that a foul in Pedulla who was getting slim to get through the screen?
The thing about UVA, is that when you score 50pts a game, two or three baskets in a row is a serious run.
Clark is gonna eat up Pedula all night.
Cattoor shooting well, but looking a bit tender. Playing D w one hand.
Would be cool if Pedulla showed a little effort on D
Jesus no defense the last 6 minutes
The defense from this group is embarrassing.
How many times will pedulla completely switch off defensively on Clark. Cost us big time but man we are sloppy defensively at times.
Piss poor finish to that half to let them pull away
Not good when you let a team that historically only needs 60ish to win 90% of the time has 40 at half.
Lots of "lot of contact on that shot" when VT is missing shots. Never seems to work out that way in Blacksburg.
Mr. Young is really testing my patience with Kidd purposefully catching the ball outside the paint. We all know only he operates inside the paint. Basile is probably awesome in practice but is horrendous under pressure. Please let this post age horribly.
Pedulla is getting absolutely destroyed by Clark.
This losing streak gonna make me start listening to creed๐ฐ
I believe. I just wish everybody else still did. Otherwise, what's the point of watching?
To check out Steph Curry yucking it up on the UVA bench?
Well...that's cool too I guess....and he's sitting with MV7 too....
But I still believe. If I dont,, I'll never watch.....
Man, I guess we are missing Aluma's interior presence and performance more than I thought. We also do not seem to move the ball around to create the open 3's at the rate as last season. We are feeding the post more than ever and not getting it done enough.
Sometimes I say, "man, am I missing Storm too"?
It's more the defensive side IMO. Defense creates offense (and in an unmeasured kind of way, energy), and this team is not very good, or at least not very consistent, on the defensive end.
Roger on that, but my comment was more an add-on to our absentee D. So, I like your take better.
Basille so fucking soft Christ man grrrr
Positive.....Maddux seems to be coming out of his shooting funk....
Edit....another boom from 3.
5 for 7 overall...3 for 4 from 3. We needed this.
Thank goodness!
Mutts very uncharacteristic tonight hope he can snap out of it by the end of the game
Mutts pulled out of it shortly after this comment lol
Good adjustment, Mutts at the top of the key freeing up the shooters. Getting a lot more open looks
Cattoor grabbed and almost pulled down off the screen, clean play
That even gets called as holding in the NFL. But not here.
Catoor getting grabbed again. No call. Bilas even said something
Mutts got whacked 2 buckets in a row too
Letting them play tonight....not a lot of fouls and pretty even overall.
Anybody else notice that every time VT has the ball there's flashing lights from the digital banners and reflection on the floor from it but as soon as those Fuckers have it it stops?
I thought that shit was illegal just like the bands in football....
Interesting. Will take a look.
I just made my wife watch 5 minutes. She totally agrees. Every time LOLUVA has the ball it stops. As soon as we get in the half court is like a flashing strobe light. These motherfuckers are cheating.
I passed the message on to someone that actually works in Tech video department. They will know the actual regulations of what can and can't be done. They are going to take another look at the video and based on their options the department will advise Young.
Awesome....id love to hear about any feedback about this from anybody in the VT realms. Thanks for pushing this forward.
Why can't Basile dunk that shit. He's standing right there....
Made three at the shot clock mark it off the bingo board
Off the kicked ball....that was not a turnover.. turns into 3 point swing
Looked like the arm/hand was in on that play. We simply need to give more attention to detail and stop waiting on the officials to bail us out on every possession.
Edit: BTW, I offset the downvote for you my man.
Welp, that should just about wrap this one up
Now Pedulla trying to play hero
Maddox with another awful jumper.
This team isn't playing like a team desperately looking to stop the losing streak and get a win.
The number of times that Bilas has talked about contact by UVA not called against VT is crazy.
Pretty obvious at this point
Who do we have to pay or kill to get fair referees in this sport. I didn't think we were going to win tonight, but the referees made damn sure of it. Way to much of us getting thrown to the ground no foul, hand check on the other side for a foul on us.
Please start the hit list with TV Teddy and go from there. You can clean house of them all though.
Our staff looks very unamused. They usually are up, energetic, talking to players enthusiastically but not this game. Mr. Young seems happier with UVA mishaps than us performing well. Also Kidd not playing in the second half again makes me very curious..
Kids was getting abused inside not surprised he hasn't been out much. Defensively we are a mess and he wasn't helping on that, I'm not knocking him I want to see him more but tonight he was getting targeted by their bigs.
No problem calling contact on VT though
This team is a mess right now...looks like another year of hoping for a miracle ACC tournament run.
So unimpressed with CMY and Co. this season. Very poor job getting the team prepared week in and week out. The group looks lost and uninspired each and every game. Additionally, tonight is yet another confirmation that the vast majority of this team does not possess ACC athleticism.
Agree on the first point, don't buy the athleticism argument. We have good players and these are good coaches. They just don't do enough to get that extra effort and winning play out of what is a talented group
Mutts loves turning it over so much he gets a steal and immediately gives back
Yep time to load up some creed๐ฅบ
Wahoos are cheating with the electronic banners In the stadium. Flashing like a strobe light when we have the ball. Stops for them. Look at the reflection onthe floor. Fucking cheating fuckers.
I watched and saw it this time, you're not wrong
100% incredibly noticeable. Tape needs to go to the ACC
Who is in charge of sending something like that on?
No idea, just rewound the recording and it's pretty funny. It turns to a static image every time uva has it and immediately blinking when VT has the ball
I had no clue until hokietopher pointed it out, pretty glaring after that
I don't know, but it was happening the entire game. Maybe some of you guys who are connected to VT athletics or even some of you who do the tweets (I dont) can throw it at someone or at least put it on the interwebs.....
time to get #UVaFlasher trending
"VT Basketball players indecently exposed by flashing every possession. Virginia AD condones behavior"
Hey gang. Been a while. I am logging in just to tell you that we aren't the only concerned folks about the flashing strobe like lights. I have a long standing running rivalry thing going with my sister in law, a strong 'hoo fan forever. My brother (Hokie) and her watched the game again after I mentioned to her what I'd read here about the lights. She said she'd been to "hundreds" of games at JPJ and said that while it is a raucous and loud environment, she'd never noticed the strobe thing before, and the obvious timing issue, but now cannot unsee it. It bothered her enough to say that she was going to send a letter to the athletic dept at 'hooville and inquire. She said that whether it was against a rule or not, the perception that it has created should be addressed. This lady is a really Yuge fan, and she worked for UVA for years and knows everyone, so who knows? Maybe they'll respond to one of their own. I have asked for a report if she does get a response, but rest assured, this isn't just some random sore loser sour grapes from a Hokie fan issue.
So hope all are well, I still drop by to catch up occasionally and check the fishing thread. Go Hokies, right the ship!!!!!
Good to hear from ya, stranger.
And yeah, the strobe light thing was wack and I'm glad they're doing something about it.
Are they doing something about it? Or is it just people on Twitter and it will blow over? I hardly see sanctions being handed down or wins being vacated.
I reported it to a member of the Tech video staff. They are going to review with a mind to the actual regulations. It could be in compliance but poor sportsmanship from LOLUVA. If it is against the rules, they are going to report UVA to the NCAA compliance staff.
doing something about it as I used it = talking to people, or saying they're talking to people
I don't think anything will come of it, but it's nice we aren't just getting laughed at
Hey back Beard. I don't expect anything to come of it either, but my sister in law does at least know who she should question about it. The main take away for me here is that there is no greater UVA fan, and after attention was called to it, she thought it was a serious enough complaint that it made her uncomfortable enough to want an explanation. We'll see.
nice to see ya around, man. been a while!
Thanks Gobble. Hope to be around more often. We'll see.
Apparently the ACC Commish was at the game.
I'm sure the proper punishment will happen any time now /s
Scary part is Hokies are shooting 50% and down 14.
8 point differential at free throw. 7 more shots for UVA.
Just called the softest foul on Pedulla while
Nothing on Clark
Yep. Clark hacks his way to a steal, no call. Pedulla called for less.
Pedullas positions while defending is atrocious Clark has had a run in the open every single time. Shot the 3 so well but getting roasted so it won't matter.
Struggling to see where the next win comes from
Pressure defense too little too late. Just frustrating to not have seen the full court earlier than this. Even now it was a farce.
So Mutts decides, with under a minute left, that hustle is needed. SMH
Don't slander that man he has busted his ass all game long and been one of the few bright spots all game. Come on man
It wasn't slander, it was an observation. He has seemed a bit sluggish (or something) for a few games now. I love the man, but it is what it is. He isn't the only one. The entire team seems largely disinterested, but with Mutts doing what he was doing in the final 60 seconds it begs the question, at least for me, where was that all game long?
I guess but to me he plays damn near every minute of every game, gotta expect he will wear out eventually without a solid backup to rest him.
10 point final score difference, 10 point difference at the FT line....
Coincidence? I think not
Three stats... all you need to know.
points off turnovers: VT 8 - loluva 13
second chance points: VT 6 - loluva 11
free throws: VT 2 of 2 - loluva 12 of 13
When you've got cattor getting tackled in the lane and Pedulla getting wrist checked for 90 feet with no foul; but Clark drawing a shooting foul from Pedulla at the logo when Pedullas hips were completely turned to allow Clark to drive to his right and a brush of contact...you're not gonna have a good time trying to win the game
Points in the paint: VT 22 UVA 36
Tech left 16 points in the paint by not finishing at the rim or missing within 15 ft.
They can leave those shots from outside 4 feet out to 15 feet in the practice gym especially Maddox. Every time he takes an undisciplined floating jumper I grind my teeth. Last night was worse because he tried the fall away floater.
That shot made me wince. The second it went up I knew it wasn't going in.
Made me want to hit him with a boxing glove on a stick
The offense looked improved though!
Well shit. At least we shot the ball well, something we've really struggled with for awhile now. Hopefully it becomes a trend and not a one game blip.
This team needs an answer that is not Pedulla. He's being asked to do way too much and the offense breaks down while he gets visibly tired affecting the defensive effort as well. There seems to be more athleticism off the bench but they're not getting many minutes, there's probably a reason for that but with the starting 5 being underwhelming I'd love to see some other players get more minutes. End of the day though this is a team that lacks that high end player you turn to when you need an answer. We've got a bunch of good players who play hard and play well together, but you need a great player (or two, or three) to be a difference maker in tight games.
Also, the strobe light was egregious, obvious cheating from the Cavaliers. They should be hit with a hefty fine, but knowing the ACC I'm sure they'll ignore it. Absolute embarrassment to the conference pulling something like that on a major televised game