
It is easy to forget that the Hokies ran the football very effectively over the course of the last four games of the 2014 season. Tech notched 145, 111, 198 and 210 yards against Duke, Wake Forest, Virginia and Cincinnati, respectively. In each of the final four games, the returning members of the starting offensive line group dominated solid defensive fronts, so their excellent performance in the spring game wasn't all that surprising.
Unfortunately, the left ankle injury to Jonathan McLaughlin against Boston College last fall forced offensive line coach Stacy Searels to insert a raw Wade Hansen in at right tackle down the stretch, and while the running game was proficient, quarterback Michael Brewer took a frightful beating. Hansen's raw technique and lack of speed forced the Hokies offense to roll pass protections and use max protect schemes (often keeping dangerous receiver Ryan Malleck in to block) to compensate. Too often, even those measures didn't work. Wake Forest manipulated the Hokies into rolling slide protection blocking away from blitzes while UVA's Max Valles simply overwhelmed Hansen until Augie Conte was moved outside and Scot Loeffler started to use alignment to force Valles out into coverage. McLaughlin sometimes struggled with speed rushers and blitzes as a left tackle as a freshman, so the prospect of having two starting tackles that don't have great track records in pass protection was a frightening proposition going into spring practice.
The story of spring football practice was the Tech offense's unprecedented success against Bud Foster's defense. It is logical to expect that the number of deep touchdown passes delivered by Michael Brewer during the spring were facilitated by excellent pass protection. The film doesn't quite support that conclusion.
Many of the deep touchdown passes featured superior double moves against young, inexperienced defensive backs, and Michael Brewer often did a masterful job of stepping up into the pocket against edge pressure. That edge pressure was there because McLaughlin and Hansen were still at a disadvantage in pass protection situations against starter-caliber defensive ends. I struggled writing this column because I did not want to be overly critical. Watching drills thanks to Snapchat and the spring footage, I marveled at the compete level demonstrated by both McLaughlin and Hansen. They didn't give up on plays, and by maintaining contact after being beaten they often gave Brewer and Brenden Motley extra moments to get a ball down field. Similar plays at the end of last season would often have resulted in a Hokie quarterback prone on the turf. The attitude and compete level was off the charts for both players; yet despite those factors, the lack foot speed and the resulting impact on technique from both tackles ultimately will be worrisome when the Hokies face top notch defensive ends.
First, let's look at a relatively benign play where the edge rush isn't a factor. Brenden Motley throws a quick curl route to Cam Phillips. Let's focus closely on Hansen's technique here. On a quick throw, he wants to take away any inside rush and get the defender's hands down. After initial contact, his goal is to drive the defender up field. How does he do?
At first glance, it appears that Hansen does a good job. Dadi Nicolas is forced outside and has no impact on Motley's throw. Closer inspection of the tape sees some technique flaws that hurt Hansen later in the scrimmage. Nicolas has a huge speed advantage on Hansen, and Hansen compensates for the speed difference by pumping his arms to help get him into an intercept point between Dadi and the quarterback. In doing so, he makes a cardinal error. By dropping his arms to help his movement, he allows Dadi to initiate contact. In my experience, as a pass blocker you want to make contact with the defender before they contact you. This allows you to dictate their first move and take away some of the defender's momentum that comes with firing out of a sprinter's stance. When the defender makes contact first, he retains all his momentum for a bull rush. It also allows him to set up leverage. When you freeze the film after the first stride, Hansen's hands are down by his side. On the flip side, McLaughlin's hands pop Vinny Mihota as he strides backwards. As result, McLaughlin retains a good angle, while Hansen's right shoulder is facing his own goal post by the time he makes contact.
This technique flaw makes Hansen very susceptible to an outside rush when the quarterback has to execute a slower developing play or a deep pass. Here, Hansen again drops almost perpendicular to the line of scrimmage and doesn't throw his hands to contact Dadi on his first or second stride.
This allows Dadi to dictate the play. Dadi delivers an outside slap and rip move and is only denied a sack because Motley avoids contact. Even when Hansen was able to slide hard to the outside and take away the edge, his labored movement prevented him from early contact. The lack of contact allowed Dadi to use his speed to fake outside and then cut back underneath Hansen on the inside. Early contact is risky. Any miss means the defensive end has an unabated path to the quarterback. However, it is critically important that Hansen improve on dictating the play by engaging the pass rusher early. Hansen did a heck of a job on many plays by staying engaged even when he was beaten to allow the quarterback time to scramble. Engaging early and then sticking with the block gives the quarterbacks time to make an initial read and then step up in the pocket for secondary reads rather than taking their eyes off the receivers to avoid the initial rush.
As a freshman, Jonathan McLaughlin often was protected by Scot Loeffler with tight ends and backs using chip blocks. In space, he also struggled with speedy defensive ends. Here, Foster shows a blitz look from a 30 front, yet only sends his three down linemen. Vinny Mihota beats McLaughlin cleanly with rip move, while Dadi beats Hansen with a fake bull rush and a push-pull. The two intersect at Brenden Motley. This, more than anything else, was my most worrisome moment of the scrimmage.
With a second look, the blitz look could have caused both McLaughlin and Hansen to be nervous about their inside gap. Teams like Boston College and Wake Forest have feasted on the Hokies by causing confusion with blitz looks, and seeing McLaughlin and Hansen not trusting their interior linemen and backs with inside gap control when executing a true "cup protection" (straight drop back with the offensive line forming a cup rather than sliding the protection to one side or another) is troubling. Protecting against a blitz is a team effort. Each blocker must execute their assignment AND trust their teammates to take care of their own assignments. If you start leaning to protect other gaps, you will get beaten.
In the last two seasons, Loeffler protected his young tackles by often sliding his protection. Here is a great example. The Hokies slide their protection to their right. Hansen is allowed to overset to the outside because he knows Augie Conte is there to help him on any inside move by Dadi Nicolas. The entire Hokie offensive line protects the gap to their right, and J.C. Coleman fakes a dive and then slides out to the left edge.
The Hokie front occupies each of the gaps to their right, and Coleman slides outside to pick up the delayed blitz by C.J. Reavis. Coleman does an excellent job putting Reavis on the ground and Motley has a beautiful pocket to throw from. Motley misses a must throw, fortunately Michael Brewer completed a similar route later in the scrimmage.
Virginia Tech quarterbacks were sacked 34.0 times, third-worst in the ACC last season (ahead of Louisville [40.0] and Wake Forest [48.0]) . The Virginia Tech offensive line must protect Michael Brewer better to ensure that he can get through the season healthy. Improving the running game enables play-action and keeps the Hokies in more manageable third-down situations, but (as we saw against Wake Forest) ultimately Virginia Tech must make plays in the drop back passing game in order to sustain drives. The Hokie offensive tackles must improve their technique and blitz recognition in order to facilitate the desired offensive improvement, and they will be tested right off the bat by perhaps the best defensive lineman in college football in Joey Bosa.

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I feel so much smarter when I read your pieces. Thank you.
Also, not one helmet design was considered in the making of your post!
I always feel smarter reading French's stuff too, but I wish this one made me feel better as well.
A little less optimistic now, but French ain't derailing my hype train!!!
Very insightful well done French, kinda has me worried though.
French thanks for the write up and the video! In understanding our weakness at the tackles demonstrated here in blitz looks, does the ropb screen become a viable tool? We were so effective with it on the 99 team. Knowing we have to play to our strengths and mitigate our weaknesses, what else can we do without cannibalizing our TE. Curious as to your thoughts. Thanks!
My knee jerk response to this was, "Oh noooooooooes!" But then I thought, could you go to any program in the country and not find some technical issues with the starting tackles? Every O line is going to have its weaknesses, and Loeffler clearly knows what his line's weaknesses are since he schemes to mitigate them.
I think your title nails it. We have to continue to improve. I don't think Wade Hansen is going to be all ACC, but he looks a lot better than he did last season. I'm sure Coach Searels has made him well aware of his technical flaws, and hopefully he continues to work on them.
French, in your opinion based off what you have seen of our OL is the first team coming out of spring the most likely to be the starting 5 against OSU? Do you think conte over Hansen at RT is a possibility, or is it going to be Hansen or potentially a true freshmen battling for the spot?
There's no way a true frosh is going to be in the mix for the #1 RT.
Why not? We had a converted DL last/this year.
High school strength != college strength
He was a 21 yr old 2nd teamer elevated to 1st team due to injury...over some true frosh.
I suppose I should have said "assuming no injuries or other catastrophic event", no true frosh is going to be 1st team RT.
I don't think you can say that with a high level of confidence. Of all the starting positions on the team, I'd say that this is the one that is closest to being up for grabs. If Plantin, Arnold or Clark had an impressive fall camp, it's not far fetched at all. Wasn't he replaced midway through the UVA game by moving a guard over?
I do.
If Clark was going to be in the mix for the #1 slot, he would have gotten a lot more snaps in the spring.
The other two incoming frosh will have an even bigger hill to climb in 2 or 3 weeks with diminishing reps (learn the playbook, adjust to the speed of the college game, develop a rapport with the rest of the line, gain strength, adjust to college studies, etc.) to beat out a 22 yr old solid run blocker with starting experience - regardless of his pedigree and limitations.
Barring injury, I don't think any starting position is up for grabs. The only one remotely up for grabs is TB and that will probably be split.
If he can't pass block, he won't be starting
Ok, who will be starting if he "can't pass block"?
Someone who can, or the best of the bunch. And if they are all equally bad at it, then who has the highest ceiling for improvement as the season progresses. The quickest feet, the most ability to improve and learn proper technique. If it is a close call, wouldn't you go with the young guy with four years remaining? Might as well take his lumps now vs next year. Why be terrible two years in a row?
If, if, if....if my aunt had stones, she'd be my uncle too.
Why can't people believe that the best option isn't always a great option?
That doesn't mean you don't consider all options.
I don't think we're going to have a great option this year. Good is about the best we can hope for. If a younger guy is close to Hansen though i'd hope at the very least we get them rotating so we come into '16 with some experience at the position.
I bet you poop at parties.
It sucks asking a host to use the bathroom upstairs.
protein problems.
what are you basing the "solid run blocker" comment off of? The uva game where he was replaced, the bowl game against a defense ranked around 100 in run defense or a spring game against a depleted defense? I really appreciate all the hard work Hansen has put in since last season, but he could absolutely be replaced by a freshmen if they come in ready IMO.
He is a good run blocker. I am not sure what else I can tell you. He wasn't replaced against UVA because of his run blocking. He was replaced because Max Valles (who is a pretty damn good pass rusher) was dominating him off the edge. We have no idea if Conte was an upgrade because when Conte moved outside, Loeffler started using formations that forced Valles to line up out wide instead of as a down lineman.
Fair enough I just haven't seen enough of him personally to call him a good run blocker based on his PT and the competition.
IF they come in ready? They virtually NEVER come in ready...that's the point.
I'll make a bet that a true freshman will NOT be starting at RT unless injuries force it. Wanna make that bet? You name the amount.
If a true frosh is starting at RT, VT is in a world of hurt.
some would say if a d3 transfer former DT is starting at RT we are already in a world of hurt...
just pointing out making blanket statements like that one about a d3 transfer or true freshmen probably isn't the smartest way to look at the situation.
I know we don't have a 5* type coming in like cam robinson but he seemed to do ok at Alabama.
Not some...just you. The rest of us don't obsess so much over pedigree.
shots fired?
ignorant comment.
Poorly worded, perhaps, but not ignorant. Your comment seemed to dismiss the possibility than an unsung hero could be the best option at a position (and further, be a very good option period) and I think that's what he was referring to. By your logic, we'd be in a world of hurt to start a two start converted quarterback at safety (Kam Chancellor) or a walk on at fullback (Sam Rogers). In general I believe it's accurate to say that starting a true freshman at tackle bespeaks greater desperation than stating a senior, regardless of the path that senior took to they position prior to this season.
saying that no one but me cares about "pedigree" is ignorant, period. Didn't dismiss the possibility at all, but also not going to say he's the best for the job without seeing how the other incoming players progress by fall camp. My "logic" isn't a blanket statement it was in regards to one player that we've already seen play and I thought he struggled personally, but applauded him for his hard work in the offseason which could pay off in the end. Not sure on the last sentence it's probably more accurate if the senior was a player that was recruited for the position, which isn't the case in this situation.
I took his comment to mean "the rest of us talking part in this conversation don't care as much about pedegree," not that you are literally the only person participating on TKP who cares about it.
As for your logic not being broadly applicable, why not? Your claim was if we were starting a player matching his resume, we were in a world of hurt. Not that it was anything in his play that concerned you (though you have stated those specific concerns elsewhere, credit where credit is due), but in this case you were speaking generally about starting a player who matches a certain history. If you are concerned about pedigree of one player, it stands to reason you would be concerned about player pedigree generally. If that's not what you meant, then I retract my statement. But it's what you said.
As for being recruited for a specific position, I think you're underestimating how fluid football positions are. Players change positions all the time, when moving from high school to college and even in the middle of their college careers. Safeties become corners or linebackers. O linemen become D linemen. Tight ends become everything. Already this off season we've seen a tight end and a D linemen become an o lineman, and Torrian Gray has basically said Chuck Clark will play every defensive backfield position at some point this season. There is a lot of overlap to the positional skill sets. Players are recruited every year with the notion that the coaches are going to give them a look at various spots. So where Wade played at his previous school really shouldn't matter.
The thing that bothers me is how often people get locked in on players who switch positions and pretend we are doing something wrong. I know that as a kid, when I played soccer, I played midfield. Suddenly, in High School, I was no longer the fastest player or the one with the best touch to run the midfield. Instead, I switched to goalie where I was needed and could make a difference because I was quick, tall, and could run a defense. Often, these kids are placed in positions by their coaches based upon their physical attributes, not based upon their technical skill. They will play QB or RB when they are in high school because they are the best athlete, not because they throw the longest pass. I feel like this is especially true in VA where High School football is decent, but the development is nothing like it is in many southern states (i.e. Texas, Georgia, Alabama, Florida, etc.). That's why you see a kid who played QB, Safety, and kick returner all in the same game. Or TE and DE. They fit physical profiles and are talented, but the technical skills needed for each position are ignored as they compensate for the lack of them with their athletic prowess. Coaches evaluate and move players based upon what their skills are and based upon needs. Sure, players who are true athletes at a position will be more polished, but there is value in the utility player who you can pick up and use in a few places if something doesn't go your way.
Don't you think that has more to do with roster size? I'm guessing ideally every coach at every level would want to be able to have one player play each position exclusively, just to be able to rest his players. But some schools just can't field a team deep enough to do that. I don't think that it's that the players aren't as developed, it's more that there aren't enough players to go around.
Absolutely that will have to do with roster size as well, but coaches at that level often believe that the only way they can win is by putting their best player on the field at all times. When you have one guy working in multiple positions, they won't develop the skills they need in all of them unless they take the initiative to go to camps to learn them. My experience tells me that coaches often put all their stock into their stars, sometimes just 1 star player, and if they are having a bad day, the team will not succeed. The general skills will be there, but the details will be missing when it comes to that player succeeding at a higher level. Often, they will be best suited for 1 of those positions and thus their skills will be greater there. I hate using something that has been hashed out before, but look at Teller. Tore it up on the DL in high school while also having success on the OL. His physical advantage over his opponent led to his success on the DL, but even then, his coach knew his future was best on the OL and look where he is now.
Nicely put. Probably also why we see so many "project" recruits at the skill positions come out of Virginia. And an emphasis on why we have to continue to expand our recruiting footprint.
I had already made a comment about not making "blanket statements" about pedigree. Every recruit/situation is different and the recruiting industry is far from perfect. Players do change positions all the time especially coming out of HS where you generally say the most athletic/talented kid playing at the positions they can impact the game as opposed to where they best translate to the next level. I wouldn't say players change positions all the time though in college (yes we do it a lot but it's become such a trend recently due to recruiting misses and attrition IMO). For every player we have had that has changed positions successfully how many could you list that went on to never contribute? I'd guess the never contribute list is longer by quite a bit. Not sure which TE you are talking about assuming redman, but again he went from not playing much as a TE to probably not playing much as an OT due to depth. Our secondary players have always rotated as TG wants them to be versatile. As for wade, it wasn't just at RPI he played DT he came in here as a DT and if you don't think getting reps at the position he's going to play matters then why do we even have guys practice?
Perhaps, but you then went on to make what was reasonably considered a blanket statement about pedigree. You admit now, though, that wasn't your intent, so I withdraw my Kam and Sam comparison.
As for position switches, it's prevalent throughout all of college football, so much so that CBS Sports wrote an article about it a couple of years ago. And we follow the norm in switches: mostly it's the freshmen or redshirt freshmen who switch spots, upperclassmen like Redman when the need arises.
Also, you're just straight up wrong about Wade being a DT. He may have been listed at DT on the roster when he sat out his transfer year, but he never played a down on defense for us. He's only ever been an O lineman and special teams player for us. So I don't understand your last sentence at all.
How am I wrong about him being a DT? He played DT on the scout team the entire transfer year and started last year there before being moved to OT due to lack of depth. Just because he didn't play there doesn't mean that's what he was practicing as prior to the switch. Is Andrew ford not a qb because he hasn't taken a snap at qb for us?
With the notable exception of Bucky Hodges' move from QB to TE, the position a player plays on the scout team usually doesn't really bear on where he'll play on the roster, if he's able to make that jump. Wade came in with DT experience so we used that on the scout team. It doesn't mean he was ever going to cut it as a DT in Wile's scheme. Searels wanted Wade as soon as he got his office unpacked. Wade was given his shot on the DL just like Teller and Nijman were, but wound up where he was better suited on our team. I feel equally confident saying Teller and Nijman were never DL for us either.
Definitely agree to disagree on that. Hoping the switches work out for everyone involved though.
His blanket statement, was just a direct response to the previous blanket statement about a fresh RT. And held as much truth that if you think we are "in a world of hurt" by playing a true fresh, how could you see the alternative as much better, without taking the individual talents of each player into consideration when making the blanket statement.
I actually do agree with the statement if you're starting a true freshman in the O line you're in a world of hurt. The logic behind it being, there is probably no position that requires more development from the high school level to the P5 level than offensive lineman. Freshman mistakes can hurt you at every position, but freshman mistakes can derail an entire offense on the O line. So that statement makes logical sense to me.
What didn't was the counterclaim that if you start a senior D3 transfer converted defensive tackle, you're in a world of hurt. That just doesn't ring necessarily true to me. There's nothing that says a player is bad or mistake prone or that your program is hurting if that's your starting right tackle. It could just as easily mean he won the job straight up and is the best option.
Either one could have won the job straight up. How does Hansens previous college experience prepare him for being a starting D1 tackle or make him any more qualified than a top notch freshman with years of playing offensive line? I find both equally unlikely starters.
By what logic? Wade played tackle in high school, so he has those years of of playing offensive line that you're valuing in hypothetical freshman recruit's resume, but you're dismissing them in Wade's. On top of those years of experience in high school, Wade now has experience playing that same position at the P5 level. So I fail to see the logic in your statement that both make equally likely (or unlikely) starters.
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lol..you can downvote me all you want. I'm just callin' it how I see it, fella
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I liked mike Arnold's film quite a bit just not sure he'll have the size/strength to compete right away. jonathan McLaughlin came in and started right away as a freshmen although he had a prep year in there as well.
I like Arnold, but I am hopeful he will be a left tackle. I don't think any of the freshmen will challenge Hansen. It takes time to get up to game speed and strength for DI football. McLaughlin had an extra year to grow (prep school). Teller didn't play right away. I can't recall the last young OL to have an immediate impact (maybe Sergio Render, and I can't recall if he was a true freshman or a redshirt when he started to play.)
My review was overly critical because I spent so much time on technique. The reality is, the combination gave up one sack and there was an occasional pressure. It was a marked improvement from their performance in November, and they have a summer to continue to get better (remember Hansen is still relatively new to the position and McLaughlin is coming off an injury and he had been hurt the previous spring.) If I spent two weeks looking at every hand movement in slow motion, I could probably find a lot of fault in the technique of even the best players. Relax folks. I expect the offense to be very good. I worry about edge rush, and depth, and that is about it. Defense... that is a bit more worrisome if you look at the spring performance (even with injuries.) Then I remember that it is Bud Foster who has created miracles with defenses that were abysmal (see the front 7 on the 2010 team) and I worry less.
Based on watching the healthy guys, the only way that this five isn't our starting five is if Braxton Pffaf has a tremendous fall camp and Searels decides that Conte can move out and be an upgrade over Hansen. Given Pffaf has not been able to get much work over the last year because of shoulder issues, I think you saw your starting five in the spring game,
Folks have asked me about underclassmen. Nijman was ok going against walk-on DE's in the spring, but Jeremy Haynes beat him like a rented mule once for a QB pressure and I saw several times where there were mixups on his blocking assignments. Redman just doesn't have enough lead in his pencil to hold up at the point of attack. On the interior I thought that Osterloh and Smith had decent days. Alston Smith was up and down, and Colt Pettit/Billy Ray Mitchell really struggled when they rotated in. I walked away very impressed with Austin Clark, who took snaps during the two minute drill at the end of the first half, but I didn't see him get any other work. He looked good in pass pro, but wasn't challenged by guys who will see the field on Saturdays. He didn't get any run blocking snaps, so that aspect remains a mystery. I would have liked to have seen him get more work.
My take away from spring practice was that Nijman and Clark are the future, but neither are going to be ready this fall. Nijman has a chance just because he's a year older, has that extra S&C time, and has just ridiculous athleticism. If he can put on 25lb and spends some time doing OL drills over the summer he has a shot to be a contributor.
Clark is a guy I see taking the traditional OL development route.. needs to get stronger, needs to get used to playing against college-size and college-speed players. So that means redshirt, year as a backup, then fighting for signifigant playing time as a r-SO/r-JR. Although in his case he may well be in that playing time battle as a r-FR since we lose Hansen and Redman after this season.
Excited to see what Arnold and Plantin can bring to the table this fall.
All spring I've heard about how great the O-Line has been doing, and now you have to go and pee in my Wheaties. Darn you French! Darn you to Heck!
Seriously, good write up. It's good to get some reality instead of thinking everything is all rainbows and unicorns...
*Shakes first vigorously*
Here ya go;
They did a good job. I spent two weeks looking at this film, so I really picked them apart. It didn't stop the offense from scoring TD's, and ultimately that will cure all ills.
Way to install some brakes on the hype train
Seriously though, French - is this a problem with athleticism that we're just going to have to deal with (you can't teach speed type thing), or is this something that can be overcome with technique?
There are now, little kitty. There are now.
Well, I think physics sort of takes over on the speed thing. Technique and snap count (the QB is an OT's best friend when they have a good hard count to freeze the DE's) can compensate for some of it. My approach is high risk, but if you can take away that DE's forward momentum quickly, it mitigates that speed advantage. If you take away the advantage of knowing the snap count and the angle of contact, no OT going backwards can beat a DE coming out of a sprinter stance. You have to use that to your advantage.
With this in mind, perhaps you may already have something in mind for Ohio State game week to do a review on what the OL needs to do to contain Bosa and the Buckeye pass rush? Or if you don't already, maybe you do now? :D
Claiming success by running against these teams is a fitting prelude for the rest of the article. Great analyses, but not exactly building momentum for the hype train.
Little steps... and keep in mind Duke and Virginia had outliers impacting their final stats because both played Georgia Tech. Given how the Hokies ran the ball earlier in the season, those were impressive efforts. Also, against Wake those numbers also reflected the sacks. The Hokies grossed nearly rushing yards 180 yards but lost 49 yards on sacks.
UVA had a pretty solid run defense last year (18th nationally in yards/carry, 20th in yards/game, 9th in Bill Connelly's opponent-adjusted S&P). The other 3 run defenses were varying shades of crap. The opposition definitely had a part in VT's improved rushing offense...but running over bad run defenses is better than not being able to run against bad run defenses.
In what seems to be the theme of the offseason, I'll take making excuses for why we did well over making excuses for why we did poorly every single time.
Hey I'll take it. How many times have we read in a pre-game write up that X team has a crappy run defense and we should excel that week in the run only to see us flounder in the run game? I'm so jaded by that now that whenever I see an opponent with a crappy run D I think we'll help their stats out in that department. So frustrating. I was happy to see we got a game with over 200 rushing yards. I don't care who it was against.
FWIW, those teams are ranked 108th, 54th, 9th, and 97th in rushing S&P+ defensive rankings. So no, they weren't the best of the best rushing defense teams, but 198 yards against a top-10 rushing defense isn't half bad.
Well, let's break this down here. Given the sheer number of times I heard the phrase, "pressure up the middle" over the past few years whenever a Hokie QB dropped back to pass, I'll take a bit of edge pressure with a solid interior every single day of the week. French, it looked to me during the spring that the middle of the line was much improved since 2012 in giving the QB space to step up away from pressure. Would you say that's accurate, or did you see evidence to the contrary?
When you compared it to how the VT offensive line looked in the spring two seasons ago, I'd give each of them an Outland Trophy. I know the tenor of the article is worrisome because I think certain matchups (Joey Bosa) are on the VT schedule that can take advantage of those technique flaws. But, you were not seeing jailbreak QB pressure like we saw in season's past. In the final spring scrimmage before the 2013 spring game, Mark Leal couldn't even set his back foot before he was being hit. This looked much better. Hansen showed many of the same flaws in the drill work against ends like Nicolas, but he stayed engaged on his blocks and worked his tail off. You can't teach feet, and nobody will ever mistake McLaughlin or Hansen for Jonathan Odgen. However, you also can't team competitiveness and effort. They both fight, and that gives a QB like Brewer who can move in the pocket time to make a play.
There is a cup half full/cup half empty way of looking at this. The cup half full says:
1) Brewer/Motley combined were only sacked once in 1 vs 1 action.
2) Hansen won't face a better defensive end in ACC play and should be able to handle any returning DL on the schedule.A look at the ACC sack stats from last season requires lots of squinting before you get to a guy that VT faces this year. Two are safeties (blitz pickup!) with Duke's Jeremy Cash and Devon Edwards with 10 combined sacks. Jessie Rogers from UNC had 5.5 sacks (one came against VT), Pitt's Rori Blair with 4.5 sacks (one vs VT) and GT's KeShunn Freeman (4.5 sacks with half a sack vs VT) are the best sack artists returning.
The Half Empty Cup folks will say:
1) VT didn't protect Brewer at all with Hansen in the lineup.
2) Dadi wasn't going full speed because A) spring ball and B) QBs were in yellow
3) See above.
We will see how it plays out.
Do you mean last season or during spring?
last season
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A very very good assessment. We have to come up with something this year or Bosa will spend a great deal of time in our backfield. I'm not learned enough to say how our center will perform but I do believe from watching the Spring practices and game that it is the OT position we need to worry about along with making sure our RB's make the pick-up on blitzes. Two of the sacs on Brewer in the bowl game were outright whiffs by the RB.
Run right at Bosa and use his momentum against him to keep him off balance for when we need to pass. Sam Rogers is licking his chops for a shot at Bosa! He will break him! But i am serious about running at him.
I like the idea, but Bosa was arguably the best DE against the run in the country last year. He's as good as it gets as far as college linemen go.
Yeah, def will be a first rounder. Dude is a beast. ...heard his little brother is a beast too
Little brother? If we beat big bro twice, think we have a shot at junior? Bring him to the school his brother couldn't best.
The idea of running traps with Teller at Bosa...good lord that would be something to behold.
Somewhere I read where Vince Lombardi would often just take it right at players like Bosa. It might be something to not block him and send the Pancake Man from left guard to butt heads with him on a couple of traps. Let Trey Edmunds fill the hole he vacates and then use that to set up a slew of other stuff.
Yep I agree. Just posted something similar above. Sorry did not see your post. I am thinking the same way.
Yup I would pull the guards and center and use a te the entire first quarter against him! Wear him down!
Is there a Cliff's Notes version of this post? I can't get all the way through the article while taking a dump before my leg falls asleep. And once I leave the bathroom, my 15 month old won't let me keep my iPad.
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isn't your legs falling asleep the only reason to get off the toilet?
Yes- the OL will run block well, should be more solid against blitzes, and may struggle when they play elite edge rushing defensive ends. :)
It... It almost sounds like you're saying we'll have an honest to goodness O line instead of a clusterfuck.
Glad I'm not the only parent whose kids dominate their electronics. Except our 3 year old "shushes" us when we ask for our phones back...."shhhh...shhhh".....

somethings wrong....
Looking at last years film, did we handle Bosa well?
well enough to win, but he had his moments
Yeah, he had one huge play - a sack-fumble that OSU recovered, got decent pressure a few other times but Brewer was moving well in the pocket that game and it neutralized OSU's pass rush for the most part..
My solution to Bosa would be sticking SAM ROGERS on him all game whenever he's not already playing every other position. And when he does go out in space to catch a TD or whathaveyou, then Malleck should take over. Bosa is too good, he's almost Dadi good.
Not gonna lie, Sam's currently just a little too lopsided for me to trust he'll be a dependable blocker early in the year. That elbow surgery resulted in one arm being significantly (and somewhat comically) larger than the other, so it might take more than the summer for him to really get his strength back.
In your opinion, are we capable of running screens? Either way would that help us on the edge with this line?
Now that so many teams use inverted cover 2 with safeties coming forward to play short zones, it essentially negates the ability to screen. Other teams have success against VT because Bud uses so much man and cover 4. The game is now much more suited to quick draws and quick swing passes from spread looks to negate pass rush.
Thanks for the response. Makes sense. I was just thinking if we're able to establish any kind of run game and went four wide with a single back on a passing down that the screen might be effective. Especially since we have been totally ineffective at running it since the days of David Wilson.