Five Reasons To Keep Watching

Though it's hard not to be completely negative after the Hokies' loss to Liberty, here are five reasons to look forward to the rest of the season.

[Mark Umansky]

I'm not a positive person by nature.

And, in the interest of full transparency, I fully intended to submit a column this week talking about Justin Fuente's job status and the overwhelming feeling that there's simply no way for him to come back from his 38-35 embarrassment against Liberty. But we've all had that conversation on repeat this week, and as much as many may be out on the head coach, we'll all still tune in to watch the Virginia Tech football team face ninth ranked Miami on Saturday.

Situations like this call for a bit of manufactured optimism. When everyone is down, anxiety is high and there's little reason to look on the bright side, why keep harping on the negative? The Fuente problem is not going away regardless of the outcome this game. So instead, let's turn our attention to a few glimmers of hope. A few drops of positivity we can hold onto and enjoy as this season trudges along.

Here are five things worth the emotional investment between now and December.

5. Brian Mitchell's parting gift

Mitchell's tenure as Virginia Tech defensive backs coach is complicated. He was hired late in the coaching cycle after Torrian Gray elected to take the job at Florida, and immediately inherited three NFL cornerbacks (Greg Stroman, Brandon Facyson, Adonis Alexander) and Mook Reynolds โ€“ not a bad lot to hitch your wagon to. The group was a big part of the two best Bud Foster defenses of the decade, and have since stuck in the league.

Mitchell then signed the following CBs:

2017: Bryce Watts

2018: Jeremy Webb, Armani Chatman, D.J. Crossen, Nadir Thompson, Jermaine Waller

2019: Brion Murray

2020: Dorian Strong

I'm no expert, but signing one three-star or lower corner in 75% of your recruiting classes isn't the way to build talent or depth. And though he experienced a bit of bad luck with Webb's injuries and Crossen's dismissal, the recruiting numbers are suspect regardless.

His inability to bring in talent forced Caleb Farley to make the move from wide receiver to corner, yet then coached up Farley and Waller (Tech's fifth lowest rated recruit in '18) into one of the best CB tandems in the country:

No matter how you shake it, Mitchell turned in a hell of a coaching job in 2019 and was subsequently fired. And though it's safe to say that he mangled DBU's cornerback pipeline, he did leave Blacksburg with one positive parting present.

Many of us rolled our eyes when Tech signed a no-star player out of Maryland whose only other offer came from Delaware State. And they moved dismissively again when we heard about how much the coaches liked their underrated freshman. But y'all, Dorian Strong is pretty damn good.

He's still too skinny and has moments where he reminds us how young he is, but there's no doubt that he's the best corner to pair with Waller. And in a season where watching this defense is akin to dousing yourself in gasoline, lighting a match and trying not to drop it, Strong has been a joy to watch develop.

4. The 2010 vibes

A decade ago Tech lost to a good team (Boise State), a bad team (JMU) to open the year 0-2 before ripping off 11-straight wins to clinch the ACC and a trip to the Orange Bowl. Before you bombard the comments calling me a fraud or some hopeless romantic, let me write this bold, all-caps disclaimer before continuing:


But watching the team in 2020 is a similar experience to the squad in '10. The offense is dynamic, full of playmakers in the backfield and out wide. The Tyrod-led Hokies scored 33 points per game, spreading the ball between weapons and using a three-headed rotation at running back to control the clock. They needed to control the ground game, because their defense gave up nearly five yards per carry and relied on turnovers to prevent higher scoring affairs.

In fact the only reason they didn't give up more points during the win streak is that they faced maybe the worst batch of opposing QBs in my lifetime as a Tech fan. They basically beat Russell Wilson and a buffet of bleh.

Flash forward to today, and the story is just about the same. Hendon Hooker relies on a handful of weapons to score points in bunches, electrifying Tech fans with chunk runs and play-action bombs. He does so mostly out of necessity, because his defense is bad if they don't force turnovers โ€” they give up over five yards per carry, but have forced the 10th most turnovers in college football.

It's why I think Tech can win on Saturday, because with points and a little turnover luck you can beat just about anyone. (Except Clemson. Let's not get crazy.)

3. Draft talent

One of the most disappointing aspects of the Fuente administration is not that he squandered NFL talent at the beginning of his tenure โ€” 19 wins in two years is nothing to sneeze at โ€” it's that he inherited NFL talent, then developed his own and yet somehow still hasn't improved. They may not be Alabama, but the Hokies are squandering this roster.

Farley (even though he opted out of this season, was still recruited by Fuente) will likely be a top-20 pick. Christian Darrisaw has picked up steam as either the second or third best tackle in the draft, and has drawn high praise from ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. (who has him going 21st in his latest mock) and The Athletic's Dane Brugler:

Kiper named James Mitchell his third best tight end. Todd McShay had Divine Deablo as a top-10 safety to begin the year. Luke Tenuta and Doug Nester have received high praise from PFF, and with 4.5 sacks on a 6'6" frame, Amare Barno could play his way into consideration after a solid senior season. They also have the program's best back in a decade, and two gamebreaking wide outs. Tech may have many systemic issues, but it doesn't have an individual talent problem. And every week we get to tune in, watch those guys make plays on a game-to-game basis.

2. The offense is still really good!

We've seen an interesting narrative unfold over the last week of torches and pitchforks. Tech fans were irate post-Liberty, and kept throwing tires onto the proverbial fire. Once people started to get bored talking about all of the ways they wished to fire their head coach into the sun, they turned their ire on the robots.

ESPN's Football Power Index, SP+ and the odds in Vegas like the Hokies against Miami this weekend. FPI gives Tech a 62% chance of winning, Vegas pegs them as a 2.5 point favorite and Bill Connelly's numbers have them winning 31-28

Know why all the numbers like the Hokies? Here's a hint โ€” it's not because of a stout run defense. Things may be burning as fans stare into a future of mediocrity and irrelevance, but that sense of existential dread should not mask Tech's standing as a legitimately great, and fun, attack. Through seven games Khalil Herbert and company rank in the top 15 of plays over 10, 20, 30, 40 and 50 yards.

I once heard a friend close to the program say that the true magic of Michael Vick's tenure in Blacksburg was him fostering the belief that Tech could score from anywhere on the field at any moment. There's nothing quite like the confidence you get as a fan if your team can score. And while Hooker is obviously no Vick, this offense can keep the Hokies in games and flip momentum in a single snap.

It'll cause a familiar level of angst โ€” every Oscar Bradburn punt feels as defeating as a Bud Foster defense giving up a touchdown in 2007 โ€” but it's still a blast to watch.

1. Hendon Hooker

Hooker is by no means perfect. French has laid bare some of his shortcomings in the traditional drop back passing game, he probably relies on his legs too often in passing situations which leads to a a team problem converting third downs. But, the junior quarterback has had a season since returning to the lineup.

For just a second, forget about the loss or the opponent and think back to Hooker's final drive against Liberty. WIth his team down seven with 90 seconds to go, Hooker put together the following:

(VT 25) Drop by Tre Turner
(VT 25) Completion to Kaleb Smith for 17 yards
(VT 42) Completion to Turner for five yards
(VT 47) Completion to Turner for 21 yards
(LU 32) Blackshear run for eight yards + 15 yard facemask
(LU 12) Completion to Turner for a game tying 12 yard touchdown.

He did all that in less than a minute of game time, executing a clutch drive with confidence and efficiency. We've seen moments of him excelling in crunch time before (I'll never forget his 29-yard dime to Damon Hazelton with the game on the line against Miami last year) but this has become part of his persona as a player. It's a type of confidence players, coaches and fans all rally around, and a crucial element of an upperclassman quarterback.

Things may all feel like they're crashing and burning around us all, but at the very least, Hooker's mere existence will make the wreckage exciting.


Cool. Thanks, Brian. I needed this.

half expected the article to be this gif.... thanks brian!

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

I was thinking more along the 2009 season, which is following this trajectory as well, start off season strong, mid season swoon, close out the season strong *hopefully*

TKPhi Damn Proud
BSME 2009

If you feel the leather in your hand let it rip.

Imagine how confused the CFB world would be if we somehow won out the rest of the season. Hell, I can't even imagine how confused I would be.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Yeah it's like crack.

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Thanks, but I just can't anymore. I cancelled YouTubeTV this week, and for the first time since late 1995, I won't be watching the Hokies play. It's just not fun at this point.

The Miami game is on ESPN2, so it should be available if you have a change of heart.

FYI I think we got promoted to ESPN due to all of the postponements this weekend.

If you feel the leather in your hand let it rip.

Can we please get back to trying to make this season fun? Including but not limited to:
-Hooker jokes
-Unrealistically high expectations of KH24's all purpose yard totals
-beating Miami
-fully believing each snap could be a ridiculous momentum shifting beamerball play: INTs, scoop and scores, blocked FG for TD (too soon?)

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Thanks Brian!

Good stuff. I'm always going to tune in to be excited about and support our players. Regardless of their *ranking, I'm always going to support kids who chose Virginia Tech (even if they are inferior from a talent standpoint to their ACC counterparts).

Is coronavirus over yet?

Appreciate the optimism being kept alive, I'm the ever optimist when it comes to hokie football but this Saturday is the first time in a long time I'll be recording and not that bothered about the game. I usually plan Saturdays around the game but the effort from the team last weekend has left me feeling they're not taking it that seriously so why should I take supporting them that seriously?

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

It's the hope that kills you.

Keep watching, absofuckinglutely! Get emotionally invested? Absofuckinglutely not! Way to much of a roller coaster for that and even though I am not a fan of the coach or ad I will always cheer for the players who are sacrificing themselves for our entertainment and hope for the win.

I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction:
โ€œI served in the United States Navy"


Zeroth reason: I'm a Hokie and will watch regardless.

Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

This. Hokie football (good, bad or ugly) is and will forever be part of my life. It's as much a part of me as the 5 years I spent earning my degree at VT. I am forever grateful for my experience at VT, the memories made and friendships formed. I don't think there is anything that would ever cause me to turn my back on anything or anyone Hokie. It's in my blood and part of my soul. It's like family... some parts you may not like, some parts are favorites, but in the end, it's your family and your stuck with them. Go Hokies!

What I came here to say!

The group was a big part of the two best Bud Foster defenses of the decade, and have since stuck in the league.

I would argue that the two best defenses of the decade were 2013 (1st in SP+) by a notable margin, then 2017 (9th in SP+). However, 2016 was a solid defense as well.

Other than me being a weirdo stickler about things like this, excellent article Brian. As frustrating as the systemic issues have become within the VT football program I was always going to watch the next game. Honestly, it might be one of the best games of the weekend to even the most objective third party observer, especially with a lot of the other interesting (should be) competitive games/narrative games being cancelled/postponed.

Agree to your point about the last drive...though me and a group of friends that were watching (and I'm the only VT fan) thought we scored too quickly. Sure buddies asked if it always like this, I said kind of, but not exactly like this. You can count on VT finding new ways to lose a football game.

I said the exact same thing to my wife when we scored the tying points. It's just a movie we've all seen before.

Stong and Connor are fine- unless it's a critical 3rd and 14 and we desperately need a stop. I know some of that is DL pressure, etc. But I chuckle at those rankings the morning after Liberty converts long pass after critical long pass. Aaron Boone loves the deep spreadsheet too, until the rays send him and his 300 mil roster home.

I appreciate this article and thank you for taking the time to write it, Brian. I've watched or attended every game I could since 1999 when I was 7. That's coming to an end tomorrow for my own mental health. I feel broken at this point. It's too frustrating and anxiety inducing to watch this team right now especially when I know this is basically the most talent Fuente can recruit into the program. This offense is a lot of fun, but it's tough to fully appreciate when it's paired with a bad defense and questionable in game decision making.
I'm going to enjoy brewing some beer and other games where I don't have a vested interest. Or who knows? I may end up tuning in because I'm sick.

"That move was slicker than a peeled onion in a bowl of snot." -Mike Burnop

This may be the problem. If you stated watching the mid-80's like I did, then its not as bad. Got very used to losing in those days.

That's totally fair. I was spoiled from the beginning. I know I went to games before 1999, but I don't remember them. But, I never felt like this in 2012-2015. I was always excited to see the next game even though we were mediocre because it felt like we had a shot in any game. Now, it just feels like there's no hope of improving past mediocrity without a change and there's little to no fan access to the team. It's tough for me to enjoy watching the team if I don't feel connected to it and they are this wildly inconsistent.

I'd recommend people listen to Holly Anderson's description of why she stopped watching her team, Tennessee, on the Shutdown Fullcast (she stopped watching like 10 years ago). She said, "I've seen this movie before." How many times have we read this on TKP this week? Well I've also seen this enough times now. It's not healthy to be this frustrated especially when the life blood of the sport, recruiting, points to us just getting worse.

There's a good chance I'll about face and watch tomorrow because fandom is stupid and by Friday each week I start being illogical again. Maybe the team will surprise me this time? The defense will have a great day and the offense won't have weird lapses at just the wrong time? I keep coming back even though I know the result ends in me being frustrated and stressed out - even during some of the wins.

For those of you who made it this far, sorry for having to wade through my cynicism and nihilism.

"That move was slicker than a peeled onion in a bowl of snot." -Mike Burnop

Well if anyone wants to join me in my Hokie wrestling thread tomorrow I'll be updating regularly during the game if it gets to bad too watch

Bite your tongue this Nosferatu
It's minimal these stomach knots
This conscious can't hide from his soul
Till now

Will watch and route for my team regardless.

Christian Darrisaw is a badass mother fucker. Oh my god.

BTW, since 2017 VT is 1-9 when the spread is 3 points or less.

What's the spread on this game again?

Close games = coaching

Agreed. And for as much of an analytics guy as I tend to be, I also believe there is a factor of a team culture of winning. In the 2000's, VT was a team that won a lot of close games, and as a fan you were a lot more confident back in those days that we would win those one possession type games. I think in the 2010's we really started to lose that winning culture and expectation from player to player that everyone would play their role and win the game. 2014 and 2015 are both great examples of years that could have been 9-3 or 10-2 but were both 7-6 because we lost such a hefty % of our one score games. I think this tendency has carried comfortably into the Fuente era.

I'm going to have to go look that up cause most of the Beamer years I remember being really nervous if VT didn't have the lead, and a solid lead. Comebacks weren't a thing in my mind (other than the GT game).

If Bud's defense was working then it was good, but lots of times if his defense worked then we won by a good margin.

Again all my memory/perception need to look into that.

I've been looking through some of the schedules after I said that, and there's probably a little more nuance required to what I said. Most good teams lose games by only one score, so most losses by top teams are often by just a score or so. Additionally, it's also difficult to capture the games that were close throughout only for your team (often the better team) to step up and close out the game and possibly win by a couple or three scores, etc. That last scenario plays into what I am talking about. A good example would be Clemson letting Syracuse stick around, being within a score in the 3rd quarter, only to pull away late like a good team should. Unfortunately, that is particularly difficult to compile. We did that quite a bit in like 2006/2007 where the offense wasn't great, but usually we could pull away late as the superior team.

Additionally, I agree we weren't great at comebacks (outside of the Tyrod years), but much like other good teams, we also had fewer opportunities to make comebacks in those years.

While I haven't fallen quite this far, I wasn't at all surprised that we lost to Liberty. And I won't be surprised if we beat Miami tomorrow.
It's just the VT way now.

I don't know what a Hokie is, but God is one of them!

The highs and lows of youth are quite extreme. This team can win all the rest (but Clemson) with the right energy and motivation. But can just as easily lose them. Against wake and liberty the lack of fire was evident. I'll watch with the hope that these kids can resurrect their passion and bring their best - if they do that I truly believe we can win.

"I play real sports, not trying to be the best at exercising..." - KP

I agree that there has been a noticeable lack of fire the past few games. I'm wondering, do we have lingering affects of covid physically going on? Negative tests but lingering physical affects. We got hit pretty hard for about 5-6 weeks and we don't know the extent of who got the Rona bad. All I know is I'm exhausted from 6 months of lifestyle changes, schedule changes, workplace changes/protocols, income changes, eating habits and all the like trying to avoid Covid. I can't imagine seeing covid all around my team and trying to get hyped and go the extra mile when I am physically and emotionally spent. I just wonder if it is a contributing factor to the lack of energy we are seeing? I know every football team has it to some extent but I feel like we probably got hit worse than others??

I think what you may be seeing is a lack of SPEED.

We have a lack of speed - but the fire I'm referring to is the initial surge by the d and olines. As well as the closing of a play - the actual tackle. Guys have the rb right where they want them then can't bring them down. Or they get dragged for 4 more yards. The fire and intensity matters when you margin of victory is as slim as ours.

"I play real sports, not trying to be the best at exercising..." - KP

We can't win at Heinz on energy and motivation. Never have. Pitt is dealing with serious COVID now, but they will just pound us like they always do up there. We couldn't beat them with Randall and Kevin Jones up there.

the zebras helped Pitt quite a bit that game too if I remember correctly. We also had no answer for Larry Fitzgerald (not that anyone in the country did), and Rod Rutherford had the game of his life (24/31, 301 yard, 2 passing TDs, and rushed one in on his own).

We beat them at Heinz in 2016 (Fuente's first season) with a heavy dose of Evans, Ford, Hodges, and Phillips.

Pitt is 2 points and an overtime away from being 6-2.


You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned this team is wasting a lot of NFL talent. Diablo, Darrisaw, Tenuta, Nester, Herbert and Mitchell all look to be good bets to get drafted. Hoffman, Turner, Bradburn, Gallo, Reed, Barno, Robinson and Waller all could end up on NFL rosters. Let's hope the boys come out focused, I'd love to see them play with emotion and excitement on defense.

1-0 every week

Honestly, I'm just going to keep watching because VT is the team I root for, and I know that realistically I'll never not follow the game if they're playing. Even if I'm not going to go out of my way to make sure I'm in front of a TV, I will continue to obsessively check the score and twitter feed for the three hours they're on. I have no emotional investment in any other team. The lows make the highs that much better, and I honestly can't remember dwelling on any great win or horrible loss longer than it takes for them to play their next game.

Of course I want them to be better, and of course I want the best people in place to put them in a position to succeed, to play at or above their potential, but at the end of the day I'm just a fan, and I can't imagine that my well-being will be at all better or worse based on the performance of the team.

This is not in anyway a criticism of those who are more invested than me, and who have strong opinions on how they should move forward. If other people want to campaign to fire Fuente, I'm fine with that. I'm also fine with him staying. Who ever is on the field and sideline, I'll be tuning in.

yeah, I mean, people are Browns fans. I think we have a ways down to go before staying loyal to the team is an example of extremely illogical fandom.

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Big question for me is how many of those later round draft picks or borderline undrafted FAs come back next year since 2020 doesn't count toward eligibility? Someone like Amare Barno, Ashby, or Reed for instance. Could help cover up for the horrible recruiting class last year.

Good write-up. Some interesting takes for sure.

Are people really that down on this team that they're not going to watch us take on #9 Miami (possibly on ESPN)?

Seriously!? It's a no-pressure game, and one I oddly feel comfortable about. Did everyone forget also that it's Miami? "The U"? THE BAD GUYS?!

This is the weirdest asterisk year of asterisk years. We haven't played well, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let that keep me from watching us take on our former big east and current ACC Coastal foes.

It's Miami and we have a chance, a good one too. Fuck em, let's go 1-0!

I am excited for this game. This year sucks. I will cheer loudly for my Hokies taking on the U. All the rest of the BS we have been wining about this week is totally out of our hands.

"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." - K

That's the spirit. I'm watching. I think a lot of us remember being on a bad team that every now and then punched a bigger, better team right in the jaw for the knockout. That's what I'm hoping for.

"I play real sports, not trying to be the best at exercising..." - KP

I'll certainly still be watching, and this isn't a shot at you any means, just seemed as though this was as good of place as any to say this, but the 1-0 thing is becoming laughable at this point. With all of the stats coming out about games we lose despite being heavy favorites, this team/staff seems to have a focus that is the opposite of what is needed to go 1-0 each week. Let down after let down.

"That's it guys. Let's get out of here. That cold drink's waitin' on us, let's go." - Mike Young after win no. 300.

I haven't actually heard the "go 1-0 this week" quip from a coach since what? 2016?

How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Jet Sweep

Eh we still hear it from the players though pretty frequently, so I think it must still be a point of emphasis in the locker room

I have a cub scout event I'm running, so of course the one game that would be easy to watch I won't be home. I'll be getting updates I'm sure from at least 3 or 4 apps and if we win, then I may go back and watch it after the fact.

If not, unless I hear it's crazy, I'll just skip.

As I have gotten older, life has changed priorities and so I can't watch football all day saturday anymore. Its sad, but just how it goes.

Previously LowBrau.

Good for you. Thanks from a fellow 12+ year Scouter.

It was a great Day camp. Full turnout and we checked off a lot of awards and advancement items.

Scouts had a great time, did some service by picking up trash in a national park, and good times.

Previously LowBrau.

I definitely get the priorities thing. I should clarify when I said "watch" I guess I really meant "keep up with" or "keep an interest in." I follow along with games I can't watch.

I honestly think having a large number of games on ACCN has killed the ability to actually watch a game for a lot of us in VA/NC (damn you ACCN and Xfinity). I've had to go to a friend's house to watch like 4 games now and I don't ever remember having to do that in the past 20 years.

Yeah, ACCN has really killed it for me.

Times are tight, hard for me to pay for another subscription, especially with subpar reporting (and games...)

Previously LowBrau.

I am weirdly hopeful for this game. I don't think any of us expected to beat them last year either when we were breaking in a new QB mid-way through the season. But then Miami gifted us with 28 points on defense and we managed to hang on until the end. Perhaps we can pull it off again.

While I appreciate your optimism, I don't agree with your talent assessment. Farley and Diablo are the true talents we have on defense and Farley isn't playing this year. The depth is abysmal for a traditional top 25 power 5 program, thus why we had a walk on playing FS and a transfer CB who doesn't like contact now playing rover. Our front 7 depth and talent is severely lacking and probably the worse it has been in two decades. I don't see any chance the defense will be more talented when Diablo graduates. On offense we have some talent but again not much depth. Turner and Robinson are good players, but we have no one else at WR (maybe payoute when healthy) that is threatening the defense or even getting separation.

Tyrodโ€™s Tailor

I wouldn't say our depth is abysmal for a top 25 P5 program. Unless you're the Bama's and OSUs of the world (top 10) depth is an issue at almost every school. VT had many 10 win seasons that were 1 bad injury away from being a 7 win season or worse.

I'm not saying its great.

Great article, thank you. As much as I want to take a break from VT, it's in my blood and I can't abandon my love and support of the TEAM. My game plan for the rest of this season is Lowered Expectations! Assume we are going to lose and enjoy the few bright spots. Much like my golf game, I just need a couple good shots to keep coming back despite the overwhelming number of terrible shots. At this point, just throw this season into the 2020 dumpster fire and try to enjoy watching some our future NFL players

Per Will Stewart of TSL, Herbert, Mitchell, and Waller may be out.

Kinda glad I won't be watching.

If that is the case, the upside is Blackshear, Gallo, and Chatman or whoever else will have gotten starter reps in practice and the gameplan will hopefully center around their abilities and not somebody who isn't playing.

Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

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...but this has become part of his persona as a player. It's a type of confidence players, coaches and fans all rally around, and a crucial element of an upperclassman quarterback.

I was going to take exception to the Hooker clutch play narrative because I distinctly recall him (and our O-Line) wilting like lettuce late in the UVA game last year and again in the bowl game vs. Kentucky, when we really needed a late-game drive. However, what happened vs. Liberty happened most recently, so I'll grab 'hold of the optimism and get on board.

We'll post game I AM down. Because Hooker once again choked in the final series, with a Glennonesque pocket presence the entire game but allowing a sack when we were out of timeouts. Oh well, I am sure he will bounce back in the next game, right?

when I saw the farley and waller PFF tweet I thought "well yeah, every team is running for 15 yards a carry, of coyrse they arent throwing"

Danny is always open

I've been a Hokie fan longer than many on this site have been alive. I remember some really bad teams in the seventies and late eighties that no part of the team was any good and can say at least this team has an offense worth watching. I will not stop caring and watching enjoying the positive and cussing the negative. Hell I'm also a Pittsburg Pirate fan I'm used to futility.

5th generation Red Sox/3rd gen Pats fan here. I too am used to the pain of really bad teams and inexplicable collapses.

Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

Will I'm from ripplemead myself...said on here before but haven't missed a home game in person since 1997 and have never missed a game on tv or radio since 1991. Im an 03 graduate and my lord I was spoiled for those 4 years. I do remember the late eighties and into the early nineties the pitch forks out for Beamer as a kid (my dad among them). I'm right there with ya man...I mean the Hokies for us are our "professional sports team". Despite whether we win or lose we will keep on watching and throwing remotes across the room and/or running around the room when we think we've just stolen a game on a blocked field goal๐Ÿ™„๐Ÿ˜ฌ๐Ÿ˜ณ. I will watch tomorrow, next week, next year, next decade and no matter how I feel about the coaching etc....will never stop loving my Hokies....but man the coaching in those last 8 is what it is..let's go!!!!


Cheers. Fellow Cburg lifetime Hokie fan that will continue to join you in watching every game, win or lose. We've danced, thrown remotes, screamed our head off, stomped out, carried the goal post out of the stadium, witnessed highest highs and lowest lows. Many VT alumni in our family. We have watched (or listened) to all the games growing up. One of my first memories was the 86 peach bowl when Kinzer kicked the game winning field goal. I have and will always support the Hokies no matter the results. To me, supporting the Hokies > than the results of any game. Go Hokies!

VT student from 1983-88. Loved the Peach Bowl win-first Hokie bowl win in history.

From the 2018 VT-uva game-"This is when LEGENDS are made!"

Quickly running out of reasons to keep watching. I didn't watch today because I was spending time with my family. But I'm glad I didn't waste my afternoon. This team is painful to watch and has been for a few years now. I just don't see how it can get any better

It's always darkest before the dawn ~ Thomas Fuller

Agree! Until things do change, I won;t watch. I'll still give my tiny contribution for the S/As but I'm just waiting for Hoops to start!!!! 11/25

Josey Wales

None of this aged well. I had hope before noon yesterday and could see the smoldering from last week slowly dying, and then the offense took their foot off the gas and the fire under under the program came roaring back. The only reason to watch now is so that we can vent intelligently with up to date information on the ineptitude of things as a whole.