July 2018 - Recruiting Thread

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So if we get Pritchard today, who else are we still looking at? Houston and Ellies?

I'm hoping for Ellies and Gary, though I haven't heard anything on the Gary front in quite some time.

Gotta get Gary on campus. Then we'll see

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

7/21!

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If we get Houston, we need another RB as well. He's a complementary piece. A good one.

Is Houston still a realistic option? That guy seems like he's trending to Michigan or some other new fling.

Hokie fan | W&M grad

What's up with Zonovan Knight? Looks like he's taking tours of all the other Carolina schools since deciding Duke wasn't a fit for him. Any word on his Hokie interest?

JP

I don't believe there is much to speak of. I think the hope is that if NCSU lands him that we have a better shot at flipping Griffin.

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He's staying in-State

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Can I get a rundown on remaining targets?

If I had to guess I would say we have 3 slots remaining
Pritchard
Gary/Griffin/Another RB
Ellies or another DT

We need a good running back!

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Tyrod did it Mikey, Tyrod did it!!

Class is almost full, let's get Pritchard today, then finish up with Gary and Ellies. If Mike S flips get Battle or Davis. Hopefully there will be a little more attrition than expected and we have a spot late to pick up a late bloomer. On to c/o 2020!

No offense to Pritchard, but this doesn't seem like the smartest move for us to accept his commitment (if he picks us). From a numbers standpoint, we need another DL (Ellies, please), at least one RB (I'd be pleased with Houston or Gary), and we can't leave ourselves without a move to make late...

I know there are some that think we need another OL. And Pritchard would project on the interior, which we haven't addressed this cycle. But I'm okay with us standing pat re the OL for now if it frees up a spot for someone bigger and better later (at any position of need).

Again, I mean no disrespect to Pritchard; I actually like his tape a lot. Aggressive, good blocker, good feet, and plays with a little chip to him. (If he's 290, I'm the Queen of Sheba.) There's just nothing that would indicate that he's a priority recruit for us and hasn't been on any shopping lists I've seen thrown around for the remainder of the class. IMO this would be a head-scratcher if he was a take at this point in the cycle. Just my $0.02.

You're the only ones that I can talk to about this, you guys.

And Pritchard would project on the interior, which we haven't addressed this cycle.

Aren't both Hudson and Hanson projected as interior lineman?

Also fans have complained about OL recruiting for as long as I can remember, saying we should be taking 3-5 per class no matter what. here we are in good position to land 3 OL targets and now it's time to queue up the complaints that we're taking too many lineman.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

Weren't Harris and Darrisaw interior guys from last cycle? And I think Brown from the previous?

Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

Harris and Brown are interior guys but Darrisaw and Hudson are projected at RT.

I think we'll have some attrition. There are a couple r-So and r-Jr guys that probably won't crack the two deep this year. Haven't seen Pritchard's tape, but after 2012-2015 I want as many big uglies as we can get within reason.

If the posted info is accurate, Gary has an OV scheduled for Sep 8 at SC.

So what other OL do we take? No guarantees there will be anyone else or that we can flip him later. If the coaches take his commitment it means they value their eval over this 3* status. Either they think they can make him a better player or they see things other people aren't seeing. We still have room Ellies and I dont know if we end up with a RB this cycle just based on where we are at with that. so that gives you your one spot for a late bloomer.

Disagree with you here. I'm of the opinion that we need to take 8-9 OL across every two cycles. I also don't feel comfortable going into 2019 with one scholarship center (where I think Pritchard projects) on the roster in Hoyt.

FWIW I also really really like Pritchard at center (assuming he can snap). The best prospect we've taken at that spot in as long as I can remember. His potential drops off significantly if we look at him as a guard prospect though.

Is the expectation that Hoyt will start at Center this year? Or Chung?

From what I have seen/heard it should be chung.

I like Pritchard and if we don't take him there is no guarantee he won't go to someone else . I would stand pat on RB unless we can get a sure thing we have 6 on scholarship . The coaches know a lot more than you guys and have seen most of the incoming guys and can adjust what they think we need where . I would take a DT but only if we think he is better than the two we have already or as good . I don't know the numbers but assuming we are near the limit I would hold 1 or 2 for late comers .

Coastal 1

Pritchard is a Hokie.

Take the shortest route to the ball and arrive in bad humor.

Does he play with Brendon Clark ?

Coastal 1

I like Pritchards film, always chugging those feet!

No one has mentioned Zonovan Knight since he decommited from Duke. I thought his film was outstanding, I hope we can get him on campus.

Sean

I'll be extremely surprised if he doesn't commit to NC State

I have seen us be the first to offer a bunch of guys recently. The coaches are really working on building long relationships with these players.

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby

I know this is supposed to be the VT recruiting thread, but can we all take a second to check out UNC's current commits and point and laugh a little?

Live look at the state of UNC football...

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The vital part of this wonderfully apt gif is that the wheels fall off, and then speed past the car.

I believe this, in the literary world, is referred to as "symbolism".

So perfect.

You're the only ones that I can talk to about this, you guys.

No dead weight.

They do have a guy named "Storm Duck" so that is interesting.

Edit: Didn't read the comments below sorry!

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Louisville is pretty Garbage as well. They had a Heisman winner 2 years ago

Before we get too cocky on this, remember they beat us (barely) on the trail last year both in total points and average. Also, even though our class is nearly wrapped up, it's still early in the cycle, especially for schools that aren't tight as we are on schollies...

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Agreed. However the most important thing is not how 247 ranks our class. It's if the coaches got the players that they wanted. Looks like for the most part they did.

I personally couldn't give a crap what rivals says. If Fu is happy. It is good enough for me.

Happy Fu happy U.

Also agreed (assuming his evals are on point, which we really don't know yet), my point was we're really not in a position to be mocking UNC's recruiting especially since we compete for recruits. Those kids and their parents come in and read this stuff and it's not a good look to be "pointing and laughing" at a class with kids ranked a bit lower than some of ours. Could easily be the other way around and who knows which kids pan out and which ones do not.

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One of their top recruits decided to play pro baseball so you take him out they drop to 30th national and their average player rating goes from 87.66 to 87.19 and we are now ahead of them in both

Not counting their 10 lowest ranked committs, their recruit ranking average is 0.8787 which is close to ours.

Took me awhile but now I get it bc they only have 11 commits

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

I don't know what you're talking about. They have a recruit named "Storm Duck". That seems like a pretty strong class to me.

EDIT: meant to reply to the above post bashing UNC's recruiting efforts.

He's their bad weather specialist, like during a hurricane

Great they can trot him out in their next rainy game and proceed to throw the ball 40 times

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

They were probably after someone named "Duck Storm" after their previous performance in the rain, but turns out they got Storm Duck instead. Either way, rumors are saying that current players had a big part in getting him to commit, and regardless of whether or not it was the right guy, they all got A's for it.

Chem PhD '16

Dunno why, but made me think of a great game day sign I saw years ago in Oregon. It said: "Hi Mom, I'm all ducked up on quack." I still chuckle on that one.

Hokie fan | W&M grad

Slightly off-topic but still recruiting news. loluva recruiting has been very confusing. They got a few good commitments this month yet they are still losing out in situations like this:

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

You know this guy was destined for JMU when you see that his patronus was their mascot.

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Maybe Bronco told him he wasn't sure if he could develop into an ACC caliber player.... or that he could look forward to playing the worst teams possible if he came to UVA....

It's a miracle anyone will come coach for him, much less play. How do you recruit with that clown undercutting you at every turn.

Kinda related: I saw UVA's QB coach and his family at LAX this past Tuesday. I was standing right beside of him wearing my Tech hat in a line for shuttles to the rental car places. I wanted to talk to him but with his little kids and wife with him I figured he had enough on his kids he didn't need my dumbass talking (pestering) him.

Edit: ALSOOO Kelvin Sampson (Houston's head basketball coach) was on my flight back from Phoenix yesterday afternoon. Sat in economy with us peasants #ManOfThePeople

“Stats are for losers.” -Mel Kiper Jr.

I know we like to bash LOLUVA, but...

1. His offer list isn't exactly "stellar".
2. Maybe academics are an issue, in which case JMU is an optimal choice.
3. UVA, really? Football players that other P5 schools want don't really want to play football there. C'mon man.

Is it football season yet?

start re-recruiting

Did we stop?

You're the only ones that I can talk to about this, you guys.

VT fans, re Devyn Ford:

Also VT fans, re Devyn Ford:

As I understood it, it wasn't that they took another RB, it was that they didn't say anything to him about it beforehand.

The Poster Formerly Known As The Spirit Of Bernard Basham

I can't imagine Franklin wasn't aware of the possibility of him transferring to PSU before/during Devin's recruitment. Based on transfer rules the kid should have to sit out a year which puts him squarely in Devin's path for playing time. The situation seems to mirror OSUs recruitment of Devin and if true would buttress Franklin's status as a snake oil salesmen.

Don't worry if we all keep tweeting at Ford about how he'll never play at PSU we will be back on his good side in no time!

Do others tweet back at people that do that nonsense to tell them to stop being stupid?

Hokie fan | W&M grad

I tweeted back at those 2 guys (and removed Devyn Ford) and told them to stop and they make all Hokies look bad

You are correct, and thank you for making the effort.

thank you for your service

Dudes all Penn State. I get that it's a joke, but it's sad. He doesn't want to come here and that sucks but we'll find someone else and whoop their ass when we play them

Recruit Prosim

the link says he's eligible to play this coming fall, but played for ND last season. Where did I miss the part where he sat out a season due to transfer rules? Or have they actually changed the transfer rules and I missed it?

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Welcome to Notre Dame & PSU: Where seasons are made up and the rules don't matter.

Aren't the rules different if you're dismissed from the school than if you voluntarily transfer?

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Thank you

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Got a CB for 2020 SG Cashius McNeilly, currently at Huntington Prep (WV). Also has an offer from Maryland.
Only freshman invited to the 2017 Under Armour All-American Camp. Named MVP of the Under Armour Next game in Brooklyn. Averaged 14.4 pts and went 11-23 from 3 throughout the FIBA Under 16 Championships last year for Team Canada.

CA2VT

Sometimes I like to leave off the /s just to mess with people.

I'm partial to:

CAN2VT

i've heard he's Coach McNeilly's nephew and good friends with NAW

Fuente lookin' grizzled as hell here.

Living the it's summer and I have a crap load of kids life. I'm right there with him.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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Don't worry if he ends up as a 4* or 5* we will lead for him until signing day then he'll go to FSU or PennState and all that hard work will be for nothing.

Chem PhD '16

One small thing that makes me really happy about this is that Fuente & Co. believe they'll be here in 5 years time.

Of course I talk to myself, sometimes I need expert advice.

Damn dude, we're really competing with some big schools for recruits these days.

We have to start landing some of these guys, but Vance Vice is starting to do some good things on the recruiting front, I'm really hoping this starts to translate into big holes to run through in the coming years.

As it should be,.... always....

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

It's almost like this coaching staff has our recruiting on an upward trajectory!

4* Small Forward out of Texas, looks like he'll be deciding tomorrow. 100% crystal balls are with Texas Tech right now, but we did get the last official visit from him. Would be a great start to the class of 2019.

#Sauces say he never showed up for his scheduled VT OV last weekend.....so i wouldn't get my hopes up.

Any word on Jamious Griffin (RB) that is currently committed to NCST? Hearing he's seriously considering us now. Insight to what kind of a prospect for us too would be great.

I like Jamious Griffin a lot! Watching his film reminds me of Ryan Williams.

Is it football season yet?

Considering he's Jaylen Griffin's brother, I'd think we may have a good chance to flip him.

#AllTheBrothers

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One thing I'm certain.. kid can pound the rock up the gut

Who is our next major target for hat has an upcoming announcement date? What major prospects are still on the board and when are their respective decision dates?

I feel great about our 2019 Class at this point. If we can hold on to what we've got (I'm expecting one of the WR/ATH to flip; Sainristil looks most likely, possibly Bowick) and add 2-3 more game changers this fall. My questions is what 2020 prospects will be at the BBQ in a few weeks. Any chance we get a 2020 commit before the end of summer? If so, who are the most likely?

lol all of this is literally behind the 247 paywall at this very second. In summary, not too much to get excited about to finish summer

Lol well that's unfortunate; also I saw per his own twitter account, Zonovan Knight is announcing his decision July 9th at 4pm. Looks like NCSU so maybe we have a shot then at Griffin?

I have asked the question if the two are somehow linked, meaning if Knight commits, does that move Griffin to us, but no one knew. I like Griffin the most out of our RB options in 2019. Plays in some tough competition and is already Hilgart ready

Anybody heard anything this weekend? It's been a quiet weekend for recruiting news...

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I think it was mentioned elsewhere that the rest of the summer will be pretty quiet.

We're in a dead period. No visits, no face-to-face contact between coaches and prospects.

ahhh, so this is the time of year where I examine every game on our schedule and convince myself we could be 12-0 if everything goes right...

Pour some Beer on it

if everything goes right...

that was short lived, eh?

After the Mook news (and Adonis) are we at 85 schollies? Would we/are we looking at any grad transfers? Is it too late for grad transfers this year?

I would imagine we would use those schollies toward the 2019 recruiting class, with maybe a walk-on or two getting a scholarship for this year as a reward.

Mook would have been a senior this year, so his scholarship allotment wouldn't have impacted next year's incoming players, right?

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Mook was a senior so it won't affect scholarship numbers for any of the upcoming classes.

I believe so. The only way his scholarship gets used is if we get a transfer or give it to a walk on.

Probably too late in the game for a transfer. Probably will go to Willis.

Yeah, but he can afford to pay his own way.

Beer bottle to my head, I'd say it goes to Willis too

Bud/Wiles 2020

Willis is a Junior, so it would tie up the schollie for 2 years

Scholarships are year to year in this case.
Much like last year, Nick Fullard was given a scholarship on the basketball team. His was given due to an opening for that particular year.

Thanks GM for reminding me to be clearer

I was not as high on Knight as it seems like a lot of people were...

I really like Gary and Griffin and hope we land one of them and then focus on Tyree and/or Baldwin next cycle.

At this point I would be willing to cut all of our RBs next year if it meant we got Tyree.

If anybody actually thinks we'll get Tyree I have a great timeshare to sell you

Even if we got him, he'd just get hurt in the first practice of the year (as is apparently effing tradition) and then we wouldn't have any RBs all season.

Both he and Griffen being behind Ricky Person (a legit bad ass). I am not buying it. I assume Griffen is much more malleable to flipping at this point.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

Thinking recruits care about the depth chart is the same thing we see nail us with OSU, Penn State, FSU, and Clemson. Every one of these players thinks they have that special something to earn the starting spot even over other generational talents... until year 2 or 3 they don't play and transfer to a G5.

Recruit Prosim

Can't compare recruiting against OSU, Penn State, FSU, and Clemson to recruiting against NC State. Depth Chart should definitely be a sales pitch against NC State. Kids can see the difference between waiting for their time at a national powerhouse versus waiting for their time at a school that's lucky not to be in the bottom tier of the ACC. A lot easier watching from the sideline, knowing you'll be the lead back for a championship contender in a year or two.

Bud/Wiles 2020

Out of the potential RBs you listed, I'm least upset about Knight going to NCSt. Still upset, just least upset. Grab any of the other 3 and I'm perfectly happy.

But...but...I thought this is home?

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This is the real home, homie! All those other homes are just imitating, kinda like the matrix for homes, and think of Blacksburg/Lane as "the one."

Hope this is a good sign...

My money is on (an)OSU. But I would love to get him and would gladly lose my imaginary money that I use to bet with.

Don't think he's a take unless they miss on bigger targets

And now he has gone from no CBs to 2 CBs for (an)OSU...

I hate being right.

Apparently they really like him and he's a take for them (whereas Jowon Bridges supposedly was not) so that would be my guess.

Tweeting, retweeted, speaking with all anOSU fans and players, highly doubt we get this one, but we have been surprised.

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Looks like Khalid Martin is also NC Sate bound. Not sure where he ended up on that want list, but would have liked to see him continue the NC2VT in the O&M.

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It's good to watch the other hudl videos on this player's page as it reveals some other nuances to his game. I am no expert here but he has a decent o-line to run behind. He keeps moving his legs and fighting for every yard. He isn't shifty but has a nice stutter step and keeps moving. As far as speed, he isn't the fastest. Personally, I don't think he fits our scheme offensively. I didn't check out his MLB highlights.

His hudl profile lists him at 5'9", 180lbs, 4.66s 40yd, and 405 squat.

EDIT: I took a look at some Tahj Gary hudl vids to compare...all i can say is I hope Tahj picks us.

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HOKIES

I'm no expert but he sounds kinda small...I'm also 5'9", 180 and I would explode if I got tackled by any college football player. Granted I'm sure he is more muscle than I am, but still

Morgan is 5'9" but doesn't mean that he isn't servicable to some other team. It's not uncommon to see RBs under 6'0".

We've had similar height (and shorter) RBs before. Best example, our very own Deshawn McClease is 5'9" and was 173lbs in high school. Take a look at this old McClease hudl video against another team (not a collection of highlights) and there's a huge difference in skillset vs Morgan.

McClease hudl vid

That's why when looking at hudl videos, I like to see the single game highlights. A couple things I noticed is Morgan is Jacoby Pickney's teammate and can deadlift 600lbs (very very impressive).

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If we take another receiver it better be Hazel. Sheffield is too similar to Robinson.

Yeah I think Hazel would be the only take left at WR and that might only work if another spot opens up.

If Ellies(sp?) is gone, don't we have another spot? Looking at the roster yesterday...i think we need to swing for the fences on another DB..

This is weird. I see wide receiver and think 'hmm I feel like were good at that position'

When did this happen?

The old VT was TE to OL or TE to QB. Maybe the next step is WR to DB and WR to RB

BOOM...

Is this a first for TKP?

Out of curiosity about the swimming and diving program, I've always wondered if in recruiting, performance and student life aspect how much does having the pool in Christiansburg rather than on campus make an impact? Being a student athlete is long and exhausting days, that's without the added component of having to travel a decent amount and the logistics of it everyday for these athletes.

Ex. for early morning workouts/practices or evening ones after your classes. I think I'd look at program differently as a recruit if I would have to essentially commute to football practices and perhaps to even a small degree make me wonder about their seriousness in the sport. Obviously having a quality coach can make up for alot, but does it affect perception at all and does not having it on campus about say something about our facilities compared to swimming at other universities.

I'd love VT to be elite at olympic sports.

Fugazy

Excellent point, but do they still use the War Memorial pool at all? Maybe they use it for practice? I honestly have no idea.

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- The BoD

I have friend from Greensboro whose daughter is a scholarship swimmer on the team. She had multiple ACC offers plus several others. Both love the VT experience, and she shut down her recruitment as soon as she visited. I can ask him next time I see him, but it certainly had no impact on her, whatever the case.

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

Please do. I could certainly see how it would suck to have to go all the way to C-burg for practice, but if they use War Memorial for practice and the C-burg facility for meets I would imagine it would be much less of an impact.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

They do some practices on campus, but most of them are in Christiansburg. Friend's daughter just returned to VT this week for training - more of that is at VT compared to the actual practices, so he was happy to talk about it. He really likes the new coach, and is excited to see Sergio pulling in some top international swimmers to rebuild the team. He was glad to see the former coach leave - felt some of his "motivational" stuff had not caught up to today's acceptable standards. Nothing illegal, just unpopular, and not necessarily with the girls well being a higher priority than winning - whatever that means. It was starting to have a negative impact on the team before Whit stepped in and made what he calls a great hire.

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

Thanks for that. I've heard great things about Sergio in the past as well. Love getting international Olympic sport athletes. I hope that one day as part of the athletic facility inprovements, they build and expand the Olympic sport facilities near the other fields. Particularly with Olympic facilities it can always be used for other sports especially if you have a quality S&C coach who knows how to integrate those skills with sport specific ones. It may be just something that I'd like, but I'd love Blacksburg/VT to become an unofficial Olympic sport training center that athletes just know about. In a similar and perhaps mid-Atlantic version of what Eugene/UofO has become that out in the west coast. With Sergio and the quality the wrestling program has become, I feel like the foundation is there if Whit chooses to. Blacksburg with its somewhat isolated location and surrounding nature actually works out really well for it.

Fugazy

A couple of my friends were being recruited by VT, pretty sure they only swim at Christiansburg for practice. Don't quote me on that though.

Well, that makes even less sense.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Awesome for the swim team, but she also used the hashtag "#gokies!!"... I REALLY fucking hope that doesn't become a thing...

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That's a very very popular thing for girls at tech to say/post on social media. Hear it all the time