Torrian Gray

Noticed that coachingsearch.com mentioned that Torrian coached prevously under Lovie Smith at Chicago. With Torrians coaching success at VT I wonder if he might be someone Lovie is interested in taking to Tampa Bay. Thoughts?

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Please. God. No.

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Not sure that Lovie is even looking his direction just thought it was an interesting nugget to share and get others opinions. Torrian has done excellent at Virginia Tech and many think he can be the next great D coordinator when Bud leaves/promotes down the road.

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You can just go ahead and file that under "Things That Will Ruin My 2014"

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Would be a huge loss; but you couldn't argue with the guy for taking NFL money. Is this assuming that he gets a full D-Coordinator gig or just a position coach at the NFL level? If is a D-Coordinator, you can't fault the guy. Would be a huge hit for the program considering the DB talent that wants to come here to play for DBU.

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Could also be a big boost for the program to have someone that will be looking for reasons to bring Hokie defensive players to an NFL roster although where the balance is on that versus not having him probably leans to the negative especially in the short term.

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There are a lot of factors involved in a situation such as this. In no particular order and by no means comprehensive:

  1. Would a move to an NFL staff in the same position (as a position coach) be a step up, professionally? You could argue both ways. Some coaches value top level college coaching positions above the NFL, while others see NFL experience as significantly more important in one's development. Which leads to Point #2...
  2. Does TG see himself as a talent developer and value shaping young men, or does he ultimately see himself as a coach aimed at creating a dominant unit? Only Coach Gray can answer this question. In the NFL, you have egos and money to deal with. While college has a lot of variables that can be equally detrimental, some coaches thrive in an NFL lockerroom while others are completely turned off by the personalities and expectations. Sure, TG would have the opportunity to coach the likes of Darrelle Revis, but is that why he gets out of bed in the morning? It is a decision between coaching up a guy like Kam Chancellor to realize his true potential, versus maximizing the known talent of established vets and incoming youngsters, alike.
  3. What is TG's ultimate goal in coaching? What are his aspirations? Does he want to be a DC? A Head Coach? Where? NFL? At a BCS-Level College Program? If he wanted to, say, become the DC at Tech when Frank hangs 'em up - assuming Bud takes over or ultimately retires - would he and we be better off if he went to the NFL in the interim?

This is just a start, because like I said, there are a lot of factors at play. But with virtually all of them, the answers are subjective and ultimately only Coach Gray can answer them. Time will tell, but regardless of how it shakes out it would be a tough loss for the program. In the end, the defensive backfield is in a considerably better place now than where it was when he took over. #DBU

If TG leaves, can we just hire Macho Harris to be DB's coach?

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Give me Vincent Fuller for DB Coach any day of the week.

A Fuller coaching a Fuller would cause a rift in the space-time continuum. Too dangerous.

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As long as Bud is around, nothing is too dangerous.

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I don't see where Macho or Vinnie are currently coaching anywhere. From the last I have seen, Vinnie played for the Lions in 2011 and had a tryout with the Patriots last year. Macho was playing in the CFL for Saskatchewan.

I was just thinking of great VT db's that were not currently in the NFL.

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Anthony Midget?

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Frankly I'm surprised vt has held onto gray as long as they have. He's a good recruiter and one of the best secondary coaches in the country

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Yeah. In case anyone is looking in on this conversation, let's get some misdirection going. TORRIAN GREY IS a FAIR coach. He's great at getting defensive backs TO excel, making even the best receivers look like there are in the MIDDLING of the pack. He also excels AT getting defensive backs to hit people. He's the BEST.

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