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Arsenal goes top of the table! Lets see how long it can last πŸ˜‚

Go Hokies!

Only scored 2 and Liverpool have Fulham this weekend, so I'm guessing not long

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Let's try again. City should beat West Ham fairly soundly, right? Chelsea should thump Everton? If only I had tried again before Spurs...

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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Lasted longer than I had thought it would though. NLD this year will be super fun. Maybe it's my blind sports optimism, but I think both clubs will push City and Pool this season.

Go Hokies!

I don't know about that. Arsenal still lack the midfield to really compete with either of those teams I think. Spurs seem to be a trendy pick to contend for the title this year as well but I just don't see it. I think they'll really struggle to unlock low block teams who won't give them chances to counter.

But agree the NLD should be great as usual. Both teams are actually good again, so that's fun!

Looks like they are trapping as many games behind Peacock for opening week...

I don't care that it was eventually changed to an OG, what a debut by Aaronson for Leeds! Honestly can't believe the quality of the Union players (at home and abroad) since I started watching in 2017.

No signs of slowing down either. McGlynn, Sullivan, Craig, and Aaronson 2.0 will all be starter soon.

Spurs looking good even without a goal from Kane or Son. Can't judge things too much since Southampton didn't look great. Chelsea next week will be a good test.

Southampton is always a thorn in the side though. I thought it was very encouraging that the (eventual, probably) second-choice wing backs played as good as they did, Sess more specifically. There were so many balls and runs through the box, that's Conte's signature. I think Spurs going to score a lot of goal this season.

Yeah they both had really great games. Very encouraging!

Fullham's Instagram response to Jurgen's complaints that the pitch was dry was top notch. Footballjoe on insta has it all.

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Kulu is good as fuck πŸ˜‚

Here they come
Here comes the bastards
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Who heard it from a confidant
They're definitely on their way

He really is a beast. I feel like people discount him because he doesn't have exceptional speed and he just looks awkward when he runs, but he is very clever in how he uses his shoulders/hips to deceive defenders. They truly don't know how to defend him. If he keeps playing at the level he has shown so far in the PL, Tottenham will have one of the best attacks in the world.

Thoughts on GW1:

TOT def gonna score a lotta goals. Conte has his system, those outside backs were humming - Sessegnon could have had a hat trick

If Haaland can bury all the chances like his 2nd, ones that Sterling routinely botched, City will repeat

LVP looked worn down and uninterested - when was the last time VVD just stabbed like that? And TAA was a mess.

CHE eeked by - I am unconvinced. All that ownership turbulence gotta be in their heads a bit.

Wolves D and Sa looked really bad. Teams may have figured them out some, but Leeds w/ Marsch, maybe just hard to tell how they'll play after Bielsa. Hardest game of the weekend to get a takeaway for me.

MU - clown show. 8-12 on the table

BHA and FUL gonna be pains to everyone, theyre well coached.

BRE gonna be another really tough out. Down 2nil and battling back (that 2nd goal was SUBLIME) is a great sign

Long season for SOU and EVE.

So happy EPL is back!!

The Cup is going nowhere Mikey!

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Bruno and Joe bossed it, great finishes by Schar and Wilson. I am very excited for this season, especially if we get another attacker in.

Why are you comparing Haaland to Sterling though? Apples to oranges. Big chances missed is an interesting statistic as well. The best players in the world are usually the ones with the most big changes missed. Either way Sterling has over 130 G/A contributions for City.

Bc when city played for through balls, it was either aguero or sterling on the end of them. When pep started tinkering with the false nine in 19-20, that was when sterling was utilized more as a winger to get to the touchline and put in a cut back.

I understand you gotta have a lot of big chances to either convert or miss them, and that big chances are a good thing.

I'll see if i can pull the opta or smarterscout stats on 1v1s specifically to compare

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His speed puts him in comparable situations to Haaland, i.e. the player running into through balls behind the defense, more so than any other City player, that's the like-to-like part.

I know Sterling contributed a lot statistically (G/A) and his link-up play was great, certainly better than Haaland has demonstrated in BDL, and they're clearly different players (Sterling is better outside and cutting in like Salah or Grealish, Haaland is best straight ahead in the middle) but it's the most appropriate comparison IMHO.

And Sterling had a propensity for blowing a lot of good opportunities created by KDB, Silva, Sane etc. If Haaland is, as advertised, an assassin and clinical finisher, that is a pretty decent change for the lineup.

The Cup is going nowhere Mikey!

My wife actually said being a man united fan is probably very detrimental to my health and I'm beginning to believe her.

The two clowns in midfield need to be replaced with players not named FUCKING RABIOT.

Spend the whol transfer window dealing with Barca and now scrambling to sign anything and anyone. Dont know why I got my hopes up that this would be a good window and that Murtogh and Co would actually get this right but this feels like we have legit clowns running the scouting department. 4 seasons of McFred will make a man question his sanity for wearing the shirt every weekend,

Gonna go to Party City after work to get full stock on my clown makeup and wig to go along with my united shirt I wear while watching the games. Might as well go full kit

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I saw someone on Twitter say it reminded them of early 2010 Arsenal. For years, we all said "just buy a defensive midfielder. That's literally all you need to do." And they simply...didn't.

While I can't feel bad for United, I can sympathize with you, a fan, and say I'm sorry you have to watch that every week. I know from many years of watching Emmanuel Frimpong and Francis Coquelin as starting midfielders that it doesn't get easier.

For me its the sheer neglect of the awful ownership of the Glazers. They have paid not a single penny back on the debt they gave the club when buying it 17 years ago. Every year they pull their dividends out and never put any back into the club. The stadium is falling apart and the other facilities need updating as well but they simply dont care. Sadly the way they actually bought the club isnt allowed anymore and if sold today they wouldnt have been able to do it that way by saddling the club with so much debt. I hate seeing the idea of the empty old trafford and all the protests as I imagine for ETH it has to be incredibly awkward having all this going on while hes trying to rebuild the players confidence when all the fans are going to be not showing up to games.

As for the on the field stuff the scouting and recruitment has simply been a horror show. I liken it to arsenal like you said but also Liverpool pre klopp when they were signing players like Lambert and such. Its sheer ineptitude and nothing but. How many 30+ strikers do we need to sign to get us just till we can find a permanent or long term solution? RVP? Ighalo? Cavani? Ibra? Ronaldo? Arnautovic? Its a fucking joke and shows they cant scout talent for shit and the midfield is the area thats the worst. Its been McFred for the last 4 seasons and every year its our glaring issue. I get Kante like guys arent everywhere but surely you can at least look elsewhere or move on instead of giving those players new deals. I'll tune in to support ETH but until the glazers get out it will likely be in vain.

Edit: Just seeing the news the Arnautovic deal is off, thank christ.

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i get the sense that some in the club backed one or both of rashford/greenwood to kick on at striker

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Oh that was definitely the plan to have Greenwood be the main man but lets just say that wont be working now and Rashfords alarming dip in form has us very very weak up front now. Cant account for what Greenwood did but instead of trying to be proactive this summer Ronaldo shit all over the plans by waiting until july to notify united. He wanted out and now were scrambling to bring in anything to make it so we arent so reliant on the ever injured martial and rashford who still looks lost of confidence alongside Sancho.

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but instead of trying to be proactive this last summer Ronaldo shit all over the plans by waiting until july to notify united the club went out and signed 36 year old ronaldo to a two year deal

kinda fixed that for ya -- he's definitely not handling things well, but it's also "made your bed, now lie in" kind of a situation for united from the outside looking in

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Oh I get that completely. I was for signing him last year and as much as he wants out now I kind of gotta say I dont like the way he seems to want nothing to do with the club now. Cant see anyone coming for him at this point so for me he needs to get over it and as you said sleep in the bed you made but hes CR7 and who knows how hes taking all this.

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As a fan of Newcastle for over 25 years, I'm not the least bit sorry someone is watching Man U every week. Look at the number of trophies they have over that time period. So sad for them. It's like saying I'm sorry for anOSU football fan over the same timeframe.
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This chart and meme need some updating...IJS...lol

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It's what i could find quickly, but those Man U trophies haven't gone away...

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Just "taking the piss" πŸ˜‚; the updated trophy count is as follows

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agreed - anyone who feels "sorry" for a ManU fan doesn't appreciate the disparity that exists in sports re. have's and the have-nots. ManU can "have" anything it wants, it just happens to be run by a bunch of idiots right now who are getting it all wrong.

In the long-term, 99% of fans would take MU's history / success / financial ability long term vs the near-term fuck-up-ery. In the meantime, we can all just enjoy the ride of seeing them struggle.

I've coined it all "SchaudenFergie"

The Cup is going nowhere Mikey!

I feel for ETH, but I love watching ManU stuck in neutral. Our Hicks and Gillette days weren't fun, so it's fun to see the shoe on the other foot. I feel for Nator though, if just because he's Hokie fam.

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Lol, you guys need to chill πŸ˜‚
All I'm saying is it's sucks to care about a team and invest your time and repeatedly see the people running the club don't give a πŸ’©

Wasnt asking for any pity it was more of a vent post from what was a maddening game that took away most of the optimism I had going for the current season. Dont have any friends who follow european football so this is the one place I come to chat about this stuff really.

I liken the post fergie reign to the fuente era at VT in the sense that while all the teams you despise keep getting better and better you keep doing the same dumb shit year in year our and expecting different results. Instead of maybe addressing the WR or QB room we keep signing fucking RB after mid tier RB and never can work out why we suck.

Most of my ire with the club is to do with the Glazers and theyre lazy ass approach to running the club. The method of turning it into a commercial juggernaut is nice but thats the only reason the club spends anything at all. Hearing all the talk of a legit consortium bid coming along with the fact that its looking like there is going to be a large protest to empty old trafford for the liverpool game has me somewhat hopeful things could change but then again weve seen this all before and nothing has happened from it still.

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Nator, I know ya wasn't looking for sympathy. Feel free to vent whenever brother. Like you, this is the only place I can vent about soccer, seeing as my wife is sick of hearing about it lol.

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I also enjoy the banter on here to have a little fun as well and I appreciate it. Twitter is where I follow most of the sports news but it is a cespool and the fan base on there is one of the more vile things in this world. Its no surprise to learn that the most abused players on social media are all united players. I like twitter for the transfer market stuff but the shit that so many of these "fan" accounts is repulsive enough to make me wish the app was deleted sometimes.

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Tough draw for the boys. NOT the way you want to start a campaign. I love what we're doing up top, and I trust that our backline will figure things out and get back in a groove. For me that was a penalty on VVD, but I think that was a foul on Henderson as well. Grateful for Nunez, I think he'll open up a lot of the low block teams that like to sit back and wait for us to attack. Credit to Fulham, they played a scrappy game in the midfield. I think Klopp has to trust the young kids to perform or go out and sign another midfielder before the window closes. I understand the team is looking towards securing Bellingham next season, but they can't throw a season away relying on injury prone players like Keita and Thiago (as brilliant as he is). We have to trust that Harvey, Jones, and even some of the younger options can put in a good shift, or it's going to be a long season in the midfield area. It's one game, we go again! UTFR.

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I understand the team is looking towards securing Bellingham next season

is this just because of that one tweet from the bvb official account?

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No, murmurings on the LFC socials and LFC insider journalists.

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Barcelona have also activated the 4th financial lever in an attempt to register all the new deals. Still no idea if this will solve it and most reports from spain suggest they are still 30-40m away from being kosher. Maybe they can sell or lease the pitch to a farmer to grow some crops and make some leasing money in the offseason.

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Barca laughing in the face of FFP is really burning me up. Soccer gods need to have these dudes relegated back to LaLiga4 for spitting so brazenly in the face of the game.

Go Hokies!

Technically they're not breaching FFP I dont believe its just that they are basically mortgaging something off that they already owned fully to generate large sums to inflate their annual budget to compensate and cover for the high wage bill. Time will tell if they will be buying back the shares they are selling in the shorter term or will allow these deals to see out the 25 year term or not. It feels like an bad idea to me but they also are in the too big to fail category of business so they will probably be just fine from it all. Seeing players like Braitwathe being booed and jeered in a friendly is a fine reminder barcelona fans are ignoring all the potential issues with Laporta playing Football Manager with money hes not responsible for long term.

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Man united will always get the spotlight for good and for the bad but mostly the bad. Can't believe I actually DVRd the game and watched it after helping people move. ETH should play the kids against Liverpool the senior guys are dreadful. Bench shaw, rashford, Sancho, Bruno, Fred, the lot of em they're all an embarrassment.

Glazers out

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God damn I'm so glad spurs lost el sackico last year when it was solskjaer vs nuno. Play the kids and invest in the future, for sure.

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HAHAAAAA GIVE YOUR BALLS A TUG CHELS

Tuchel is a whiny little bastard. Great game. Spurs fought until the end. I'll absolutely take a point there given how badly we played at times.

Anthony Taylor was very poor both ways. Missed a lot of easy calls on both Spurs and Chelsea and should have sent Romero off for VC.

"GO BACK TO YOUR ROOM LITTLE BROTHER, THE CUP IS COMIN’ ON HOME!”

How are there SO MANY sp*rs fans on this blessed place?!

Go Hokies!

2,282 days since Scum last finished above Spurs in the league. πŸ˜‰

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A terrific game and a terrible match at the same time. Reminded me of 2016(?) when Clattenburg lost control of the same matchup in the run in to the end of the year.

Agree on the hair pull, but Anthony Taylor's assistant did him no favors on the tackle on Havertz. They showed Taylor's view and it looked like he got ball, but from the reverse clear foul.

Conte brought the spice! 🌢 spurs need more of that mentality for sure. Great tactical change around 60', although fair play to Chelsea for eliminating Son today.

What a match lol

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As someone not pulling for either side, it was a hell of an entertainment game. Conte def has given TOT some grit and some fight they haven't always had, even when they've had excellent technical players.

That said too, CHE looked DOMINANT for large stretches of the game, very aesthetically and tactically pleasing.

Best game of the young season.

The Cup is going nowhere Mikey!

As someone very much rooting for sp*rs to lose I was disappointed but impressed with their grit. Super interesting that Conte changed shape there in the second half. Watching two "Three at the back" stalwarts match wits was fun.

Go Hokies!

Taylor bottled it clear foul on Cucurella Kane's goal never would have happened...Tuchel lost the plot Conte got under his skin big time great game all around one of the best of the season.