Not sure if this has been discussed but Tech is in a fairly unique situation QB wize. With the depature of LT, the only current QB with game experience is a senior and we have a strong group of younger players with little experience.
WHAT IF - just for one season we have 2-3 QBs on the field on every play? It sounds crazy but why not? It would at least turn heads. There is no returning starter that 'deserves' a starting role that the coaches need to cater to and the talent is deep at the position ( at least on paper) They can all run too or are at least mobile. It changes the entire system but its just for one year. Loeffler has done enough so far that this wouldnt jeopardize his job and it sounds gimmicky but what if it worked!?
Thoughts?
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Interesting idea, but not sustainable. Based on early media reports, it appears that the Wild Turkey formation may be used sparingly with Hodges. But I believe Loeffler-and Beamer, want to establish their philosophy of power running complimented with the use if TE's in a traditional pro-style offense. Consistency and dependency on one primary QB is-and has been, their primary focus. We can see based on Loefflers comments this spring about Ford that he isn't physically ready. He's at least a yr away from contributing. If you read between the lines, I also believe Lefty has lost a lot of trust in Leal. My thought is that he turns to Motley or the transfer kid, Brewer, as his go-to guy for the next yr or two. There is a sense of urgency to get back in the NC discussion, and changing our offensive philosophy year after year doesn't produce sustainable success. After the initial honeymoon yr with Lefty (LT3's swan sing), expect the offense to look more like the Patriots offense, and less like the 2008 Miami Dolphins.
I've been thinking the same thing re Motley. From different reports he sounds to have a good arm and is pretty mobile, plus ggood size. If he has the system down I could see him or Brewer taking the starting role. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Durkin have a role somewhere with his physical attributes if he can come in and pick up quickly. But he has a lot to pick up in a short time.
Good points.. um ... nevermind. GO HOKIES!
Now we're just being silly.
Just because they may all be talented enough to be QB doesn't mean they are talented enough to take another playmaker off of the field.
'Playmakers' have been scarce the past two seasons. Post above brought me back to erf. Thx tho.
It's an idea that has come back around. The system you describe might be called the 'single wing.' In another lifetime I played against a little league team where all four backs ran and passed. That dang reverse is what suckered us though.
We also played against the single wing in grade school. Its effectiveness is comparable to the triple option, it either works really well or it's a bust. I think the key is that all the backs can effectively both pass and run, but from the first post it doesn't sound like we have that. It would be cool though.
The true starter will be emerged in August. Now, we're just speculating . The coaching staff wants to win now and will pick the best QB in due time.
This is 100% correct. We may see a bit of Wildcat or maybe a Durkin package or two, but our base offense will have one QB. Loeffler likes his TEs too much and has too great of a desire to create mismatches to waste a position on a spare QB who might sometimes throw on a trick play.
Just gonna be tough watchin one guy struggle.
ill never forgrt tyrods first game ... a couple series in-yeah hes the guy and that was that. Itd be nice if it happened again...but with whom?
Once again, we're gonna see just how popular the backup QB is. I have no idea (ok, maybe a bit of a general idea, but that's it) who the coaches are going to choose to make his first college start on August 30, and then his first road start in the 'Shoe, but I have no doubt they're gonna put the guy out there who gives them the best chance to win. There are gonna be some bumps along the way, but the fanbase will just have to be patient. I know I'm asking for the moon here, but still.
It would turn heads but not win games
Between Sam Rogers at Fullback, Joel Caleb at Tailback, Bucky Hodges at TE, Carlis Parker and possibly Travon McMillian at WR, we already have the potential to have 5 QBs on the field before we even get to whoever wins the starting QB job. Add in whoever wins the QB job and we have the potential to field an offense that consists of 5 linemen and 6 QBs without getting into the 2 deep at QB. Loefler has already shown that he's willing to let someone other than the QB throw the ball both in a game (Rogers) and during Spring Practice (Hodges), so there's no reason to put a pure QB in just to create misdirection.
Not for adding qbs as decoys but as athletes .
You mention all the players on the field that can throw -have them throw then.. all the time not as a gimmicks (Hodges and Rodgers throws) it might be more of a scheme idea vs. a personnel idea.
Oh my... well for starters, there's a reason they're not college QBs, and probably several reasons actually. Pretty sure if we tried that, our offense would be a bigger laughingstock that Georgia Tech's. I really don't see that being successful - ever. Too hard to learn and too easy to defend.
OK . How bout NO qbs and run every play like rugby with pitches and lateral passes. Now were getting somewhere.
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1) That's how my intramural team did punt returns last year (3 rugby guys back to receive and we'd just run switches and loops n stuff)
2) That'd be awesome, incredibly risky, and super fun to watch.
Because we don't have one QB who is one of our best 11 offensive players, much less multiple.
We ran the Single Wing in Middle School.
We sucked.
i think the last time it actually worked was in the 1940s
If we have 2-3 QBs on the field, that means we have 8 or 9 other players. I think Durkin might be able to pick up a LB blitz, but would you want Ford, Leal, or Motley trying to slow down a passrush like FSU's? I think if those other QBs are not a threat to catch a pass, you are going to see a lot of jailbreak blitzing. And for how much of a pounding that LT took, I think I'd much rather have 2 or 3 TE's to allow for quick 3 step drops and slants or comeback routes to have quick passes.
In fact, the circuitous logic here is that if we did have 2-3 TE's, some of them might be QBs, so now I am confusing myself.
your point about TEs works to the idea- Hodges can throw, catch, and block. If he plays primarily as a TE, he could take a quick lateral and throw down field once in a while. Others (Motley, Ford, Durkin Brewer, Leal, etc.) could line up as running backs, TEs, WRs. The only reason to propose it now is because it might be worth taking the risk this season. By next season, there will be fewer question marks on offense (expected)
Ok, so let me make sure I understand this.
Hodges takes the Wild Turkey snap, throws it on a quick release, takes 3 steps, blocks the blitzing LB, swats the overhead camera out of the way, catches the ball and just falls forward for another 16' of pickup.
Taking into effect the length of his stride, that's an automatic first down every time.
I think you got it. Glad Im not the only one~8)
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