Virginia Tech Spring Game Film Focus: C.J. Reavis and Rover Alley Responsibility

C.J. Reavis is poised to be the Hokies' starting rover this fall, how did he fare with the basics in Tech's Maroon-Orange Game.

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The biggest defensive question leading up to the Hokies' 2015 season was if Bud Foster could effectively replace three year starters Detrick Bonner and Kyshoen Jarrett at safety. Jarrett's role is a particularly challenging one to fill. On running downs, Foster regularly moved Jarrett down into the box to create an 8-man front. With Jarrett dropping into the box, Foster often moved Deon Clarke to the edge and aligned Jarrett in as an inside linebacker. It was a unique look that defenses often struggled against. Jarrett's ability to support the run and still drop back into zones allowed Bud Foster to run his Bear front while using a nickel defense.

Enter C.J. Reavis. After trying out numerous players at both safety spots, Reavis climbed to the top of the depth chart at the rover position. Following the final spring scrimmage, Foster said, "(Reavis) is a good tackler, he's got a heavy shoulder, kind of a little bit like Kyshoen (Jarrett), but he's got more mobility back there. He's not afraid to play coverage, man to man coverage. I just like what he's all about."

The spring game didn't give us a window into how Bud Foster will deploy the rover in his future plans against the Buckeyes and ACC opponents; the Hokie defense spent the entire scrimmage in a base look, with a whip linebacker in place. Reavis played in more of a traditional two-deep strong safety look, aligned off the line of scrimmage to the boundary.

While Foster may change his alignments, the basic tenets of his run defense system remain the same. Foster wants his interior defenders to fit all available gaps. His edge defender either crashes inside to spill the runner outside or contains outside to force the runner inside. The alley defender (most often the play side safety) is a free hitter who has to be in the position to meet the running back in the hole. When aligned deeper, Foster often uses inverted cover-2 on run downs to the boundary, with the boundary corner dropping to cover a deep zone and the rover coming towards the line of scrimmage where he can fill the alley or be responsible for a short zone.

For the Hokies to be successful, especially against teams like Ohio State that will force defenders to tackle great athletes in space, the free hitter must be able to put runners on the ground one-on-one. The entire defense is predicated on the slanting front causing a missed blocking assignment or the free hitter making the tackle. When that free hitter misses the tackle in the alley (see Boston College in 2013 or Pitt last season), the offense is almost guaranteed a huge gain.

Watching live, it was easy to see why Foster feels like Reavis can be a terrific player. He made several impressive open field tackles both in the alley and scraping across from the back side. At the same time, there were a couple of situations where you could see Reavis overrun the play, as you would expect from a young player. Let's take a look at how he performed.

Reavis was noticeable right from the opening snap when he assisted Ronny Vandyke with a tackle on J.C. Coleman after a small cutback window opened up on the back side of an outside zone play. Reavis looked most comfortable scraping across and filling the alley from the back side of the play. Here is an example.

The offense runs an outside zone to the field (the bottom of your screen.) Reavis is aligned to the top of the screen. To the play side, the Hokies execute a spill call, with Dadi Nicolas challenging a double team by Ryan Malleck and Wade Hansen to occupy an interior gap and Desmond Frye coming up to support the run on the outside.

Frye isn't a free hitter though because the offense has pulled the center as a lead blocker, leaving two unblocked defenders in the box coming from the backside: Reavis and defensive end Vinny Mihota. Frye forces Coleman to cutback, and Reavis meets Coleman squarely in the hole as Mihota drags him down from the back side. This is perfect execution by the defense. The scheme drives the running back to where the free hitters are there to greet him.

Reavis got the crowd buzzing with his open field tackle on a spill call during the third first team offensive drive of the game. The offense ran an outside zone to the boundary.

This is a spectacular play by Reavis, made even more so because the offense has executed the play perfectly. Ryan Malleck motions to the boundary and seals the edge on Nicolas and then slides off to pin Deon Clarke inside. Even if Nicolas and Clarke had a spill call going (and I believe they did because Reavis is in perfect position when the back spills outside), Malleck and Hansen have completely sealed the defensive front to the inside. Eric Gallo is pulling behind them. If he can get to Reavis and seal him inside, Coleman will have a long run.

Reavis beats Gallo to the spot by a split second and cuts down Coleman. This is beautifully executed, however you may ask why Reavis didn't wrap his arms. Simply put, his body position was designed to take on Gallo and keep outside leverage. Gallo turned up field just a bit too soon, and Reavis used his posture to cut Coleman instead of cutting Gallo. I'd like to see a solid arm wrap here however his aiming point placed his head and inside shoulder on the outside of Coleman's outside leg. Other than an arm wrap, this is perfect technique given the defensive look. On this play, it is also worth noting how quickly Vinny Mihota gets into the backfield at the snap. Mihota may not have ideal "long speed" for running 40-yard dashes. He makes up for it with a great motor and he may be the quickest defensive lineman at the snap on the team not named Corey Marshall. Both Mihota and Woody Baron hustled down the line of scrimmage and took away the cutback lane from Coleman.

I could go through the film and find more than a half dozen similar examples where Reavis had good position and made a strong tackle. I didn't notice any situations where he busted coverages or where he was out of position on a force or spill call. I would have to defer to Coach Gray to know if Reavis was communicating the correct reads and coverages. However, as you would expect with any young player, there were some moments where you could see Reavis over-pursue or hesitate in the alley that lead to substantial offensive gains. Here are two examples, and it is worth noting that both involve some counter action with a zone run going one way and the H-Back whamming to the opposite side.

On the first example, the offense executes an inside zone to the left (top of the screen) while Ryan Malleck pulls across from the left side to cut off back side penetration on the right side. Quarterback Brenden Motley runs the play like it is an inside zone read. He forms a mesh point with running back Trey Edmunds and then runs behind Malleck's block like he is keeping on an option play.

Reavis has force (inside alley) responsibility on the play side, and Frye has alley responsibility to account for the quarterback on the back side. All day, Reavis was very aggressive in supporting the run from the back side of the play, however here is bites on Motley's fake and drifts over to the right side instead of playing his technique. By the time he recovers, he has a poor angle on Edmunds, who blows right past Reavis for an additional ten yards. If Reavis plays his proper technique, he is square and in the hole awaiting Edmunds. This is a typical mistake for a young player becoming comfortable in Bud Foster's system.

Finally, we have Travon McMillian's touchdown run. Again, the offense runs an inside zone, this time with the offensive line zoning to the right side and Malleck pulling from the right side back to his left. The left side of the Hokie offensive line caves in Woody Baron and Andrew Motuapuaka, and Malleck pulls to kick out backside pursuit.

Despite the excellent blocks at the point of attack, McMillian faces two unblocked defenders (Frye and Reavis) in the vicinity of the cutback lane. Yet, McMillian walks into the end zone untouched. How does this happen?

Watch Mihota (on the left side of the offensive line at defensive end). Frye was up on the line of scrimmage playing as an edge defender, and it appears that Mihota should have been crashing hard to the inside. Instead, Mihota read the play as if he was the edge defender, and took on Malleck's block with his inside shoulder. If Mihota crashes to the inside, McMillian has to bounce outside right into the waiting arms of Frye. Reavis scrapes across from his rover spot to the outside, so it appears he thinks that there is a spill call and McMillian will bounce. Instead, McMillian cuts sharply inside Malleck's block, and Reavis is completely out of position to make the tackle.

When there is an execution error on the defense, you can clearly see on this clip what can happen. Three Hokie defenders (Frye, Mihota, and Reavis) are covering the space from the left tackle to the sideline, while nobody is in the space between the left tackle and Woody Baron. This doesn't necessarily mean Mihota is to blame. Frye and Reavis have the responsibility as the safeties to communicate the correct call. Michael Brewer and the offense were in hurry-up mode after a bootleg completion to Malleck and didn't give the defense much time to set. Something was lost in translation, and with a schedule where the Hokies face numerous teams that use the hurry up (Ohio State, ECU, UNC, and Duke) Bud Foster can't afford those communication snafus.

As for Reavis, while he was executing a spill call, you still don't want to see him so far ahead of the play. With his speed, he can still maintain the outside leverage required on a spill call without being two strides ahead of the running back's cut. McMillian likely would have scored because of the communication breakdown; I'd like to see Reavis at least be in position to possibly make the tackle at the goal line rather than watching helplessly as McMillian strolls into the endzone. Again, the ability certainly is there. The timing and feel for the position will come with experience. The film clearly shows that Reavis has the range and the tackling ability to be a very productive rover. The timing and technique is a work of progress where there is some inconsistency. Reavis is just a sophomore and, assuming he is still the starter when the Buckeyes roll into Blacksburg, he will be playing his first meaningful snaps in the secondary against the defending national champions. Small mistakes will look glaring against that level of competition and it will be important to be patient as Reavis grows into the starter role. His upside in unquestionable, and I fully expect that he will be a terrific player in the DBU tradition by the time he graduates from Virginia Tech.

Comments

Thanks French! This was a great way to start my work day! Feeling very optimistic that Reavis is going to be a play maker. On top of everything else that went wrong on the McMillian TD, it looks like his outside foot slipped a bit when he tried to change direction. As you said, still probably would have been a score.

On Edmund's run, I noticed Bucky started off blocking the DB well, then he seemed to disengage a bit to watch what direction Trey was going before trying to engage again.

Think that play would have gone for a bigger chunk of yards had he stayed on his block. I have no doubt he'll get there.

And Malleck is just killing it on his blocking from what I see.

He did slip a little, but I would have liked an angle where he is moving towards the ball carrier instead of having to stop and change direction. He was a bit overeager. It will come.

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Whenever I read an article of yours, I'm all like,"I know, right?" Never seen it done better.

Is Reavis our gunner on punts? His open field tackling instincts kind of reminds me of Alonzo Tweedy.

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Not sure if he is the gunner, but a healthy Reavis will block 2+ punts this year. He ate up Ludwig.

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Great article and so on top of it like always!

Revis has me like....

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I wish the Spring Game gets loaded onto youtube soon. I would love to watch it.

Great work as usual French. Reavis is young but looks capable. I am really big on him and Stroman. I think those two are going to be huge names for DBU going forward and might just make the end of the Fuller line more bearable.... ok, ok, that might be a stretch.

Stroman probably hopes the spring game doesn't get loaded for the same reason Reavis is happy it was. He was torched repeatedly, but did his thing on special teams.

You can still watch the replay on ESPN3.

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Cant get ESPN3 in Germany :( Still waiting on youtube

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FWIW the spring game is available on ESPN 3 replay

thanks to both of you. Now if you wouldn't mind telling me your cable provider and password I'll get to watching it right now! haha... unfortunately ESPN3 is a no go for me without VTphreak providing me access.

Yeah, that sucks...Apple TV makes it really convenient to watch ESPN 3 for me.

^this. The Spring Game was my first Game watched using AppleTV. And it was excellent.

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I Didn't need to log in to watch the replay fwiw

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Yo French- Watched Hansen v Dadi and it appeared to me that Wade kicked butt. Of course I'm no expert but his hands were beating on Dadi like a rag doll on many of the plays and he seemed to completely neutralize him for much of their matchups. Even saw a few pancakes served...
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Wade got beaten for a sack, otherwise he was solid.

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I was pleasantly surprised it was just once. Seemed he got beat a couple of other times that looked like Wade could have been called for holding on or Dadi just missed the throw... (like the one play he claimed to have touched Brewer)

I really am excited about Wade and I hope he continues to grow.

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Dadi was close on the completion to Phillips, but I don't think he touched him. Either way, given how the UVA game went, I think we can all agree Hansen is better than the Hansen we watched that day.

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yes. I am excited to see his story continue.

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Thanks- I'm feeling better about RT.

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Thanks for the write-up.

To me though, the biggest defensive question is Mike, not the safety positions. Hopefully you can do a write-up on this sooner rather than later.

Sooner, later, whatever. Sorry to be the one to tell you this, but we got months of off-season to live through.

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Agree with this.

Looked Andrew had a couple plays where he was tackling standing and allowed the RB to fall forward for a couple extra yards. This was previously discussed in another article so I want know what you think French! Thanks

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I will do a review on the mike position. Motuapuaka had a terrific spring, but wasn't particularly impressive in the spring game (including the Trey Edmunds touchdown run that has folks in angst.) Lydon didn't look particularly good based on what little tape I had access to early in the spring, yet was very strong in the Spring game against the backup offense.

I hesitate to say this, but the biggest negative from the spring game seemed to be a lack of compete level from that number one defense. Besides Reavis nobody really looked very excited to be there. There were some little sloppy things and a lack of pursuit that led me to think that some of the guys were more interested in getting out of the spring healthy than playing their A game. The good news is that the defensive line and linebackers didn't have any injuries, but for a Bud Foster defense to get pushed around like that (and they did, and there isn't a positive way to spin it) was unsettling.

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Baron had a few snaps that really turned my head. Recall one play where he drove teller all the way back into the QB. Showed some real power/explosion.

They're lulling Ohio state to sleep. Don't sleep on Bud Foster!

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I think the lack of enthusiasm might have been a function of having 5(?) starters out and the pan caking of Teller to face along with the unstoppable Bucky. Just overmatched really, plus, you can't hit the QB which naturally takes a step out of the game

Man, Malleck's block on the last play is something I haven't seen during a Hokie game in quite some time. Good kid.

Also Revis is gonna be the titties.

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Yep. Cline and Bucky are receivers who can block. Malleck is an offensive lineman who can run routes and catch passes. As soon as Loeffler and Brewer figure out how to take advantage of all that flexibility our offense is going to be powerful and unpredictable.

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and Xavier Burke buried Dadi on Trey's touchdown run.

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a thing of beauty! Glad everyone enjoyed it lol

I can't remember for certain but didn't we hear Bud say that Reavis was too slow to play either rover or free safety? Or was is just free safety?

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pretty sure it was said when he was at free, which caused them to move him to rover.

Two questions popped up as I read this:

1. How is Marshall not quick enough for DE but Mihota is? I have never quite understood why Marshall isn't a DE. Just getting the best 4 on the field, with him not being as good as Dadi or Ekanem makes sense. But with our current load of DT's and dearth of DE's, why isn't the first option to slide Marshall out to DE for 20 plays a game?

2. How did Frye do? It looks like the final DB alignment could go in a lot of ways. We know that Fuller-Clark-Reavis will be out there and Facyson if he's healthy. But will it be with Frye at FS? Riley at CB? Mook at Nickel?

1. Marshall is quick enough for DE, and has the strength to play DT. His quickness is "good" at DE and "elite" at DT and so he makes a bigger impact on the game at DT. Mihota is in the same type of player. "good" quickness at DE and "elite" quickness at DT. The key difference between them right now that makes Mihota moveable is that Marshall is a proven dominator at DT and a starter. Mihota is a backup DT fighting for a spot in the 2-deep with a few other players. At DE he's solidly in the 2-deep and will contribute meaningful snaps. Moving Marshall means taking an All-ACC starter and making him a backup. Playing Mihota to DE is a net gain for the team while playing Marshall at DE is a net loss.

2. Frye looked OK to me but not amazing. In the right place most of the time but not bringing the lumber. I really hope Facyson can return to form so Clark can play FS.

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Why can't Fuller & Riley play CB and let Clark move to safety? Riley seems forgotten in the mix....

I've never felt that Riley had the hips or explosiveness to be an elite corner, the other guys last year were just too young. Unfortunately. I'm not really sure that he's physical enough to be a safety either. He's kind of a tweener who may get lost in the shuffle as the young guys improve.

Also, Clark is playing really well at CB right now. He has locked down everything in sight during spring practice.

mihota has the speed/burst to be an impact player, but definitely is way behind in the strength department (edit: well after looking at the latest bench press totals he's stronger than I thought, but no clue about lower body and watching him on film he doesn't seem to have the same strength/impact) which is why he was so far down the depth chart IMO. I'd still like to see marshall slide out some situationally and be the 3rd DE and get some of the other proven DTs into the game more often.

Agreed on hoping Clark can play FS. Kid will be amazing there. Playing CB now is definitely going to help his development with coverage though, so glad he's doing so well there.

Mihota is also a redshirt freshman. Comparing his strength to that of a senior is a bit unfair and Mihota's advantage inside is his quickness. His ability to shoot gaps is his "strength" inside instead of pure power. He clearly has the frame to get much stronger and keep most of his speed in the next 4 years.

French, isn't Marshall our 30 defense DE?

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i'm comparing his strength to baron and walker not seniors.

French, isn't Marshall our 30 defense DE?

Yep. And him + Maddy + Dadi = something that exactly zero college defenses are able to replicate. That much quickness is something centers and guards just aren't used to seeing and it's a big reason Marshall played so well against OSU. Elevenwarriors actually had a little piece on why the bear defense worked (essentially the 30 D, just with standup ends) and why no one else was able to do what Foster did - beat the Buckeyes. It's a good read, as are the comments below it.

How much 30/Bear did we play against BC, Pitt and Miami (read: the big teams)?

I remember Marshall getting some DE against ECU, UNC and Cincy when we went with a more true 30 defense. I don't remember Marshall playing DE against the big teams, which seems like the obvious move. Maybe Foster is focusing on his quickness advantage when he plays those big teams. But, of note, those three teams ran right down our throats last year with Marshall at DT.

I'm just trying to understand why we don't do what seems like it would be the counter to our weakness (big OL's swallowing up our DL and LB's)

I'd be surprised if we played much 30 against the big teams (and to be honest, I haven't looked. Too painful). Still, I think you're right in that Foster wants to focus on the quickness advantage he has. We got run over by Miami because we had only 1 DT playing at even a reasonably high level, and Motu was caught out of position all night long. It seemed like we were getting eaten up on the inside primarily, which doesn't go away if we slide Marshall outside. As it is now and with the guys we've seen stepping up at DT, I'd be perfectly fine sliding either Marshall or Mihota out to end instead of a guy like Keihn against big teams. However, the Marshall/Maddy pair provides an element that few teams in college football have, and that is quickness and a disruptive presence right up the middle. If we can blow plays up in the backfield, it won't matter nearly as much if we aren't setting the edge as well.

Nigel looked good this Spring, it will be interesting to see him and Walker develop as the season goes on. Maybe by the second half of the season, Nigel and Maddy on the interior and Marshall sliding to DE (occasionally!) might make some sense. right now, no reason to push Dadi or Ekanem of DE but they could get bitten by a spider or something.

The 30 is a third down defense. Without looking, my guess is we played little to none against BC, Pitt and Miami. The former two because they were back and fourth games, the latter because they beat our brains in. There weren't many, if any, scenarios I can remember where any of those offenses were predictable to pass.

I don't want to throw Williams under the bus, but Marshall wasn't the guy getting pushed around up front in those games. It is no coincidence that when Williams started playing well (3rd Q vs Duke) the Hokie defense stopped getting gashed. Just because a guy isn't huge doesn't mean he can't hold up against bigs, and just because a guy is big doesn't mean he can.

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Don't forget, Foster views and game planned OSU more like GT, not BC, Pitt and Miami.

I'm not talking about moving Marshall to DE permanently to be a backup. That would be stupid.

But if it comes down to it, wouldn't you prefer that Marshall slides over to DE for 20 snaps a game instead of playing Melvin Keihn against a team like Miami, Pitt or BC?

It would really depend on the situation, but Marshall is such a force inside my answer would start at 'no' and trend to 'no, but maybe'. That doesn't mean I want to see Keihn out there either. I don't think his lack of size is as much of a detriment as other people--at this point in time it's far worse he doesn't play the position well. I really hope the Littlest Edmunds has the green light to play this season, if he or Gaines are good enough to contribute that'd be fantastic.

So you are assuming that Edmunds3 will end up at DE as well? I've been thinking that for a while. Or playing him at TE like his dad and moving Burke to DE. I think I heard good things about Burke at TE this spring, tho.

I definitely think he's going to get a look there. In the summer (2014) he was recruited as the backer for this class, but given his size and the need at end I'd be surprised if he didn't have his hand in the dirt some this summer. He's 6-4, 220. He's athletic, but it remains to be seen if he has the pop off the ball Wiles and Foster want.

So you want to slide him outside for a third of his snaps where he will be less impactful? If Corey isn't playing tackle I want him on the sideline resting to go attack the quarterback the next series.

We are much deeper at DT and yes if one of the starters needs a break at DE I would trust corey more there then I would seth dooley/vinny mihota/Melvin keihn.

Odd that you would include Dooley in that list. The coaches raved about him all spring. If it was sincere praise, I'm not sweating him playing as much as I did before spring.

Why is it odd that I would trust a guy that has been a starter at the position more then a guy that played less then 100 snaps at the position? I'm all for his upside, but i'm still going to trust corey more than dooley next year although we do need to develop dooley no doubt.

Marshall started a few games at d-end in 2012 but couldn't separate himself from J.R. Collins throughout the season. Production wise he was a serviceable end, but not a world beater. He hasn't practiced at the position in close to two years and has focused on d-tackle. I'm much more inclined to decisively trust 2012 Marshall at end over 2015 Dooley.

Dooley made less of an impact at end last season than Marshall in 2012 (partially a function of snaps), but got 100 plays of experience at end. Dooley's been learning and practicing at end since he enrolled, and made moves this spring. Given all of that, they're both in my same circle of trust--below Dadi and Ken, but above Mihiota and definitely above Keihn.

He still plays snaps at DE in certain formations, so that isn't entirely true. Should also probably mention that while JR Collins wasn't a superstar he was honorable mention all-acc twice, so saying that corey took snaps from him as a true sophomore was doing pretty well considering he was forced to play DT as a freshmen due to injuries.

Saying dooley made less of an impact last year than marshall did in 2012 is a huge understatement. Marshall wasn't only counted in in garbage time or as a last resort. I think even alford was getting more snaps than dooley. Dooley had 5 tackles, marshall had 26, 3 tfl and 1.5 sacks.

Comparing the responsibilities of end in the 30 package versus those in 4-2-5, Bear and nickel is apples to oranges.

Neither of J.R.'s honorable mentions came in 2012. Honorable mentions are ballot fillers. And to your overall point, the hairs of split hairs are now split.

I think even alford was getting more snaps than dooley.

Alford played 79. (And had an extra year of experience.)

Dooley had 5 tackles, marshall had 26, 3 tfl and 1.5 sacks.

Aggregate numbers are a function of playing time as much as ability--having almost 4 times the snaps helps.

At this point, I think we're both pretty set on our points, as for me...

Again coaches played marshall at end in meaningful minutes his 2nd year. They didn't with dooley with no depth there. That says all I need to know. I trust marshall there more than any of the other backups.

trust corey more

I see what you did there

I think Dooley and Mihota are going to be the two backup DE's, with Dooley playing Ekanem's spot and Mihota backing up Dadi. However, Foster knows how to put people into positions to be successful without breaking up the fundamentals of the system. If Mihota and Dooley are not producing edge rush, he will use them to stunt and draw blocking away so Deon Clarke (a proven pass rusher) can go unblocked.

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Over Keihn, certainly. Over Mihota maybe/maybe not.

Marshall can't play every snap. So are the backup defensive tackles better at DT than Mihota is at DE? Is Marshall that much better than Mihota at DE in a 4 man front that you are willing to give up his quickness inside?

Do you allocate Marshall DE snaps to the 4 man front or do you reserve them for when you go to a 30 front?

1. Marshall isn't a DE because the coaches believe he's a better DT. He's a centerpiece of Bud's defense in the trenches. The coaches have praised Vinny as one of the eight best DL, but there's always been a caveat: http://www.thekeyplay.com/virginia-tech-football/2015/04/9133/defensive-....

"It's a plan B for us," Foster said. "If we can't find a fourth end, Vinny plays with such a high motor and he's a big physical kid. He's probably a step slow to be an end but he plays so hard.

If Travon Hill was going to be here in August, I don't think the spring experiment of Mihota at DE even happens. Since Hill will be here in '16 and Gaines will be a r-Fr or a Soph, I don't think we'll be seeing much of Mihota at DE long term.

Great questions.

1) Marshall could move out to end, but he is a weapon at defensive tackle. Mihota isn't the playmaker that Marshall is inside. I would argue that Mihota may even have a quicker first step, but Marshall is much better at using leverage with his first step to get penetration. Mihota is boom or bust at tackle. Either he beats you through the gap with his speed, or he gets blocked and then chases down the play from behind. Marshall is much stronger fitting gaps.

2) I have not watched the film with a focus on Frye yet. I am planning on doing three reviews, one focused on the two mikes, one focused on Frye, and one focused on offensive line. In the secondary Gray has a bunch of issues to look at. What little I noticed of Frye doesn't make me think he has the ability to cover man to man, so that means some of the defensive looks they ran with Bonner to the field don't work the same with Frye (like dropping a corner as the deep safety and having the free press cover.

Honestly, Clark looked so good at the boundary, do you consider playing Kendall at the field? Do you play Kendall on the slot receiver and Mook or Facyson if healthy to the field? I am not sure. I don't know how Clark looks at free safety, but he looked really good at the boundary.

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I thought Stroman was next up at corner before Mook . I like Stroman I know he was hurt some of the spring but he is very athletic.

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Stroman is ahead of Mook, but he may be better suited to be that press man slot guy rather than the field corner ,who tends to play off coverage a little more and can't be beaten over the top in those coverages. Stroman bit on double moves twice on Sunday.

It is all moot if Facyson is back. The question then becomes can Facyson play corner, or could he potentially be the free and they keep Clark at corner.

A big mystery for me is Anthony Shegog. Did he even get a snap on Saturday? I can't remember seeing him. First group was Clark-Frye-Reavis-Stroman and second group was Alexander at the boundary, Edmunds at rover, Reavis at free, and Mook Reynolds at field corner. Perhaps Shegog was rotating in, but I didn't see him.

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Facyson at free safety.... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

That's thinking out of the box. If his injury is nagging, and he can't get his top speed back, you're saying use his size and cunning at the free.

That idea definitely deserves to be on the table.

Leonard. Duh.

If I can get Gray one on one tonight at the Hokieclub meeting, I am going to ask him.

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If you could get him aside and ask that point blank, I believe he'd answer it without coachspeak. Let us know how that goes.

Leonard. Duh.

I doubt it happens. I have a technique question for the regular Q and A.

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FWIW, Foster said having a clean break may have been the best thing for him. Now Facyson just feels pain in his leg from muscle soreness, which will go away with conditioning, instead of the bone. If it had remained a stress fracture, I'd be much more concerned. Now, so long as he can knock the rust off, I'm a bit more optimistic. Would kill for any additional updates though.

I owe an apology to Shegog. Watching the OL and LB parts for future reviews, I did notice Shegog in the game on the 1st 2nd team series. He and Edmunds were rotating at rover.

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more apologies- Shegog forced and recovered DJ Reid's 2nd quarter fumble that the announcers never bothered to talk about.

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Hopefully our beastly d-line is roughing up the * qb so much that he does not have time to throw to give our young safeties time to adjust. They should be locked on by the time we enter ACC play...

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Great write up. That hit on JC definitely had people buzzing at the game. Couple questions.

1. Do you think Reavis will be good enough in run support to play the Kyle Fuller vs GT role?
2. On the first clip, is the backside pursuit by Mihota acceptably fast enough?
3. On the second clip, I know its kind of chicken or the egg, but is that a great play by Reavis, or a bad one by Gallo?

Did anyone notice Holland Fisher at all?

Win one for the Beamer...

was just about to ask this.

Fisher had a good series on the series where Andrew Ford was backed up to his own goalline. He made a tackle on first down and disrupted a throw on second.

It is worth noting that Ronny Vandyke didn't stand out, and in the second half, he was replaced by Mike Wandey in the 2nd half. I am not sure if that is a reflection on Vandyke or a "we don't need to risk him getting hurt" sub, but Vandyke didn't impress me at live speed except that he was solid (once again) in coverage.

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If we can get into the start of the season with a healthy Kendall, Facyson, Reavis, and Chuck clark at Free safety I will be one happy little girl.

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