So what you're basically saying is that Hokiegirl is, essentially, your ideal girl? Don't feel bad. We won't tell. In fact, last night I had a dream I was torkin one of my wife's freinds from nursing school while she (wife) was literally sleeping right next to me. I blame it on the skinemax my wife and I BOTH watched ON DEMAND last night which, ironically, didn't make me feel as bad about this loss.
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LMAO! Yea yer right. Alkyhol may or may not....ahhh f*k it. I'm moderately hungover. It absolutely played a part. That and the fact that her friend bared some semblances to charmane starr. Ok. I'm done. Sorry.
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It feels like a break up. We have been on the rocks for a while but things looked like they were improving so we stayed together. Now it is painfully obvious that its not going to work out.
I think what makes me the most depressed is that Frank couldn't go out on top like Legends like himself deserve.
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If EA Sports was still allowed to produce NCAA Football, Brenden Motley's player rating would be an average of a respectable 85. However, that motherfucker would get a 6 for awareness. A FUCKING SIX OUT OF 100. I have never seen a QB with no internal clock whatsoever. He just runs around in the backfield like no one is trying to rip his fucking head off. GODDAMMIT, SHIT, PISS, AND FUCK.
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I know this isn't what you were going for and I'm not trying to be the PC police but I have to think there's a better way to refer to a kid that's busting his ass for the Hokies.
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Well then, I apologize for my post and I should be more considerate of who might read them in the future. I should strive to neither speak ill of terrible performances nor use offensive language directed towards people who failed miserably in a situation where failure was not an option. I can see now that it's not right to critique Motley's performance in such a coarse manner, especially since he tried REALLY hard. I should be more sensitive to his wellbeing and not so mean spirited about how poorly he played in a MUST WIN situation.
Going forward, I'll be sure to work tirelessly to be a better Hokie and a more positive commenter after such demoralizing losses since they seem to be the norm these days.
Because of you, these forums are so much safer today.
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Let's be honest. Motley has indeed played his ass off, but he contributed more than his fair share to the loss today. And his lack of pocket awareness contributed heavily to that. And it isn't improving. The kid can't sense pressure or a collapsing pocket. He zones in to what's happening downfield - often a single receiver - and takes too many sacks because of it.
It's not a question of effort, it's a question of ability, and I think Motley lacks the ability to be a P5 QB, specifically because of his lack of pocket awareness. That's exactly what OP was saying, though he was venting in the process. But it wasn't like he was trying to crucify Mot. He was bemoaning the kid's lack of awareness. After six starts, that a very valid criticism to make.
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I think many of these points are accurate. But I kinda feel for the kid that he's being asked to run an offense that isn't in his DNA. Those option pitches are the kind of offense he should be running.
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I do like that Lefty reverted to the 2013 LT offense for Motley. That's way more his strong suit than what Brewer was going to be doing this season. But Lefty couldn't completely revamp the scheme on the fly.
By the by, you notice as soon as we get out off the RB rotation carousel of doom and have one feature back we can rely on, we see the option pitch make an appearance? I don't think that's coincidence. I think Lefty knows he finally has ONE tailback he can game plan around.
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IMO, what we saw against Miami is how it should be. McMillian and Rogers as the standard one-two punch, Trey as our short yardage "bruiser back." The running game yesterday looked better than it's looked in quite a while.
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I'm down with this. I really am. But you gotta remember, Motley was recruited by the previous regime because he looked like he might have that spark of mobility and improvisation that O'Cainspring leaned heavily on to mask their own incompetence. I don't think he's cut from the cloth of a pro-style QB. Honestly, I think Lefty has done one hell of a job developing him to the point that he has. He has threaded the damn needle on occasion and has no shortage of fight in his character. I just think we've seen Motley hit his ceiling. He can run the progressions of Lefty's passing triangles, but not while he's also sensing pressure from within the pocket. He can make all the throws, but not without staring down his receivers.
I'm not trying to flay Motley alive. I love this guy. He's a good QB. He just has some obvious limitations, and I think good ACC defenses will know how to exploit them.
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At this point I watch games with friends of mine and they just sit in silence and watch for my reaction as VT gets outplayed by teams that want it more (ECU), sleepwalk thru a winnable game (Pitt), or just plain give the game away in games we should win by 10 (Miami). They lose in ways that there are no bright spots. Not slugfests where there is an honor in laying it on the line and coming up just short, just crapping the bed and doing it enough where they Fight for bowl game eligibility. Awful, just awful.
And I still have season tickets to Duke and UNC, which I will attend.
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This isn't a good team. We earned this loss in every way we used to earn wins. This team probably won't make a bowl this year. But that's fine, our regression seems to be accepted by those in charge so why should we care?
Things will not get better until Beamer retires. It's time to accept the reality at hand.
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The deconstruction of the program is almost complete. I hope Frank is enjoying watching the program he built being burned to ashes while cashing those fat checks.
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Well, I went hiking with the wife yesterday (Cascade Falls no less). Was a little worried I might miss the game. Upon checking the score post-hike I see I didn't really miss anything. Whelp, ya gotta give credit to them Canes, they'll just really get after ya. Herp-a-derp-derp-dee-derr.
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This shit sucks
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This thread is an accurate description of my feelings.
Welcome to my world.
OMG that girl is literally me when I've watched Virginia Tech play in the past 3 years.
I'm a guy, but I think it's all of us.
Nah, if I say what she said, I own it with no shame.
Honestly, me, too.
You're describing the male version of this.
No one tell my girlfriend, but I'm pretty sure that is my ideal girl.
So what you're basically saying is that Hokiegirl is, essentially, your ideal girl? Don't feel bad. We won't tell. In fact, last night I had a dream I was torkin one of my wife's freinds from nursing school while she (wife) was literally sleeping right next to me. I blame it on the skinemax my wife and I BOTH watched ON DEMAND last night which, ironically, didn't make me feel as bad about this loss.
I was referring to the gif that was posted, and not being totally serious. But that was WAAAAAY TMI bro.
LMAO! Yea yer right. Alkyhol may or may not....ahhh f*k it. I'm moderately hungover. It absolutely played a part. That and the fact that her friend bared some semblances to charmane starr. Ok. I'm done. Sorry.
You may well need a tutorial on "Things not to say on the interwebs."
Oh, also probably a good idea not to say that to anyone else, either.
Yeah, I'm done. Sorry. How about that Tyrod Taylor, eh?
I hope he wasn't in that dream.
ROFLMAO! Can confirm he was not. But leg nonetheless. Thx. Needed the LOLs.
I don't what I just finished watching.
But I'm gonna finish my day by watching some football.
I recommend Michigan-MSU. Close game with 2:00 to go and MSU driving, but Michigan D looking pretty good.
I'm already tuned in.
This game is living up to the hype
That's how a football game should be played. I guess we need a reminder of that every now and again.
That's what a real football game looks like.
WOW!
Edit: Michigan pulled defeat from the jaws of victory there.
Just goes to show you. Never give up.
Yeah...just how it should be played.
Is that F ESPNU for having crappy announcers across the board?
Or F the U...well, I don't have to spell that one out.
Or is it F UVA....for somehow pulling out a win in triple OT.
As a law student of SC, I should jump ship to the Trojans. Oh wait. n/m.
Not really though. I'm all Hokie. But, VT has fallen and needs to respond. Let's see if Whit has the answer.
There are plenty of bright spots in our young players. I'm excited for the future, but terrified now.
Normally VT and GT compete for tops in the Coastal. This year, it's about who can stay out of the bottom.
Where's my bourbon?
Someone forgot to update the conference records (overall W/L is right). And that's just making it more depressing.
Yeah, I only posted it because the order is still right.
It feels like a break up. We have been on the rocks for a while but things looked like they were improving so we stayed together. Now it is painfully obvious that its not going to work out.
I think what makes me the most depressed is that Frank couldn't go out on top like Legends like himself deserve.
Besides Elway, it's hard to find legends that go out on top. Coaches especially.
OT: Holy shit at that Michigan game
Big Luther deserves a little prop. Dadi, poor Dadi giving it a big big try with those bad hands.
A prop for what, jumping offsides not once, but twice today?
For a second, I thought you were referring to what Michigan's punter was saying when he lost that snap.
Pretty much how I feel right now when thinking about our current staff:
Leg for the IT Crowd!!!
At least michigan got some heartbreak today
Somehow, I'm not consoled by that.
If EA Sports was still allowed to produce NCAA Football, Brenden Motley's player rating would be an average of a respectable 85. However, that motherfucker would get a 6 for awareness. A FUCKING SIX OUT OF 100. I have never seen a QB with no internal clock whatsoever. He just runs around in the backfield like no one is trying to rip his fucking head off. GODDAMMIT, SHIT, PISS, AND FUCK.
I know this isn't what you were going for and I'm not trying to be the PC police but I have to think there's a better way to refer to a kid that's busting his ass for the Hokies.
Well then, I apologize for my post and I should be more considerate of who might read them in the future. I should strive to neither speak ill of terrible performances nor use offensive language directed towards people who failed miserably in a situation where failure was not an option. I can see now that it's not right to critique Motley's performance in such a coarse manner, especially since he tried REALLY hard. I should be more sensitive to his wellbeing and not so mean spirited about how poorly he played in a MUST WIN situation.
Going forward, I'll be sure to work tirelessly to be a better Hokie and a more positive commenter after such demoralizing losses since they seem to be the norm these days.
Because of you, these forums are so much safer today.
Or you don't be an AH to kids playing a game. I mean either one works I guess.
This. I'm not saying don't be critical. I'm just suggesting that there are plenty of other ways to express it without describing the kid as a m-fer.
Seriously. Take a step back. I hate losing as much as anyone, but you were just being ugly.
Let's be honest. Motley has indeed played his ass off, but he contributed more than his fair share to the loss today. And his lack of pocket awareness contributed heavily to that. And it isn't improving. The kid can't sense pressure or a collapsing pocket. He zones in to what's happening downfield - often a single receiver - and takes too many sacks because of it.
It's not a question of effort, it's a question of ability, and I think Motley lacks the ability to be a P5 QB, specifically because of his lack of pocket awareness. That's exactly what OP was saying, though he was venting in the process. But it wasn't like he was trying to crucify Mot. He was bemoaning the kid's lack of awareness. After six starts, that a very valid criticism to make.
I think many of these points are accurate. But I kinda feel for the kid that he's being asked to run an offense that isn't in his DNA. Those option pitches are the kind of offense he should be running.
I do like that Lefty reverted to the 2013 LT offense for Motley. That's way more his strong suit than what Brewer was going to be doing this season. But Lefty couldn't completely revamp the scheme on the fly.
By the by, you notice as soon as we get out off the RB rotation carousel of doom and have one feature back we can rely on, we see the option pitch make an appearance? I don't think that's coincidence. I think Lefty knows he finally has ONE tailback he can game plan around.
I wonder how much control Lefty had over the RB rotation. I feel like Baby Beamer made promises and Lefty was forced to work around them
Tough to say, I've read that certain plays require certain personnel, but have no idea as to what extent
IMO, what we saw against Miami is how it should be. McMillian and Rogers as the standard one-two punch, Trey as our short yardage "bruiser back." The running game yesterday looked better than it's looked in quite a while.
I agree wholeheartedly, I have been on the McMillian bandwagon for quite some time
He forced too many balls into far too stupid a location yesterday.
The problem is, this guy is the one these coaches have been working on since they got here.
this guy is the one these coaches have been working on since they got here. And therein lies the issue.
I'm down with this. I really am. But you gotta remember, Motley was recruited by the previous regime because he looked like he might have that spark of mobility and improvisation that O'Cainspring leaned heavily on to mask their own incompetence. I don't think he's cut from the cloth of a pro-style QB. Honestly, I think Lefty has done one hell of a job developing him to the point that he has. He has threaded the damn needle on occasion and has no shortage of fight in his character. I just think we've seen Motley hit his ceiling. He can run the progressions of Lefty's passing triangles, but not while he's also sensing pressure from within the pocket. He can make all the throws, but not without staring down his receivers.
I'm not trying to flay Motley alive. I love this guy. He's a good QB. He just has some obvious limitations, and I think good ACC defenses will know how to exploit them.
Just want to say I have been reading your posts all day all over the site and I agree with everything you are saying.
Thanks, man. Much appreciated.
At this point I watch games with friends of mine and they just sit in silence and watch for my reaction as VT gets outplayed by teams that want it more (ECU), sleepwalk thru a winnable game (Pitt), or just plain give the game away in games we should win by 10 (Miami). They lose in ways that there are no bright spots. Not slugfests where there is an honor in laying it on the line and coming up just short, just crapping the bed and doing it enough where they Fight for bowl game eligibility. Awful, just awful.
And I still have season tickets to Duke and UNC, which I will attend.
Here. Have a beer.
This isn't a good team. We earned this loss in every way we used to earn wins. This team probably won't make a bowl this year. But that's fine, our regression seems to be accepted by those in charge so why should we care?
Things will not get better until Beamer retires. It's time to accept the reality at hand.
It's ok. These are just exhibition games. Conference games are when it really matters. Wait...what's that you say? Oh it is? Uh....yeah...
*backs away slowly*
The only game that matters is the ACC championship.
Too bad VT won't be in that.
At least our players will be home for Christmas for the first time in 23 years.
I think we win out.
This is pretty much my thought process this year:
I feel more confident to say this until the last game of this season.
Me too! *runs to the basement to find some paint to huff
Way ahead of you there:
Save some for me!
If we win out it is because we go through a NightMan to DayMan transformation quick
The deconstruction of the program is almost complete. I hope Frank is enjoying watching the program he built being burned to ashes while cashing those fat checks.
But we get to play on NBC next year #bucketlist #BOB #footballonastick #coachemup #10winseasons
We already crossed that off the list with the Gator Bowl against Louisville.
Well dang........ Can we stomp on more legs this time too?
Poor Hunter Cantwell. That guy probably still has nightmares about getting crushed by the Hokie pass rush.
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My ribs hurt watching that one
Well, I went hiking with the wife yesterday (Cascade Falls no less). Was a little worried I might miss the game. Upon checking the score post-hike I see I didn't really miss anything. Whelp, ya gotta give credit to them Canes, they'll just really get after ya. Herp-a-derp-derp-dee-derr.
Welp, I'm afraid you don't get the self-flagellation credits for yesterdays game.
At least it will Beamer that breaks the bowl streak. A new coach won't have to worry about being the one to screw that up.