"Brothers in arms, Brewer, Loeffler exit Virginia Tech together" by David Teel

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/virginia-tech/dp-spt-teel-column-brewer...

To no one's surprise, including his own, Loeffler was not retained by incoming Hokies head coach Justin Fuente. Offense is Fuente's forte, and though not official, he's expected to hire his offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach from Memphis, Brad Cornelsen.

So after three seasons in Blacksburg, the last two with Brewer, Loeffler will be coaching elsewhere in 2016. And as soon as Brewer is inclined, Loeffler would like to have him as a graduate assistant.

Brewer and Rogers would both make great football coaches I think.

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Just based off of how engaged he was with everyone and talking to everyone after plays, etc. when he was hurt, I can see Brewer being a great coach down the line. It'd be pretty cool to see Lefty and Brewer team up and run a good offense somewhere (as long as it's not against VT of course..)

It'd be pretty cool to see Lefty and Brewer team up and run a good offense somewhere (as long as it's not against VT of course..)

I'm OK with them running it against us, as long as we win.

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Actually preferably against vt. Since, you know, his offenses aren't really that good.

Haven't read article yet, but is Michael getting a degree while he's here?

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If I'm not mistaken, he's getting his master's in Curriculum and Education. Seems like a good degree to have for someone who wants to coach or will have to teach HS to be a coach.

My question is how is he taking all of his classes online? My wife has that degree and it involves student teaching. My wife asked me and my best answer was, "He's the QB of the football team. I guess the professors you had built online courses for him to take and they probably fudge some student teaching hours on a log sheet somewhere."

I think that's a really cynical guess at the circumstances. More likely is that Brewer completed the student teaching portion like any other student in the program, with some scheduling flexibility to account for the football practice schedule.

Also more and more courses typically taught in-person are getting online options - especially masters programs.

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I took the MAEd - Curriculum & Instruction degree as well. It involves one semester of part-time (2 days a week) and one semester of full time student teaching. I think there is an alternate version of the program that is without the student teaching - might have been what Brewer took. I'd imagine there's something like that anyways for current teachers that are taking classes while already teaching professionally.

Does the summer semester count?

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My wife took the MA in Curriculum and Instruction with a focus on Instructional Technology and it was 100% online with no student teaching.

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Brewer and Rogers would both make great football coaches I think.

Pardon my ignorance, but is Rogers known to have a particularly high football IQ? Not suggesting that he couldn't be a GA/Coach one day, but what do people see that leads them to this conclusion?

Not sure having a high football IQ is necessary for being a good football coach. See Swinny, Dabo.

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It has often been said that Rogers knows more about the offense than any of the players. He requested time with Moorehead to work on his pass-catching two years ago, is probably the most knowledgable RB on the roster, and when RB meetings would end during the summer, went and spent time in the QB room with Loeffler to learn more about what they were doing. Beyond being a natural leader, the kid works his ass off to learn whatever he can. I think that sets him on the right path. He's taking the opportunity to improve his football IQ, which by all accounts is pretty high to begin with.

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And I'm not really sure why he spent all that time studying with the coaches. Seems easier to just upload the info directly into his positronic brain.

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From statements from coaches and players he knows every play from almost every position on the offense.

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But that's Joey Phillips, not Rogers.

Ah god dammit... That's what I get for doing a Google Image search for a good Sam Rogers gif and half assing it when I saw the VT uni.

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He is going to be a strength and conditioning coach, teaching mere mortals how to push trucks around...

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I have a lot of respect for Scot Loeffler, I thought he was an incredibly intelligent and dedicated coach. He was a major upgrade over O'Cain/Stiny before him. Virginia Tech was lucky to have him.

He definitely got thrown into a difficult situation, having three different starting quarterbacks in three years is a major challenge. He was a plus in the recruiting department, bringing sought after recruits in Brewer, (Andrew) Ford, Durkin, McMillian and Lawson (and from what I've heard, Josh Jackson aka Charlie Conway is going to be an excellent locker room guy/potential starting QB for us, I believe he has Sam Rogers potential). Most importantly, I really felt like he cared about his players.

I hope he gets another shot being an OC as a major program. He's definitely an OC that needs position coaches that are strong in teaching fundamental concepts and technique. He needs a HC with enough patience to let him install his offense. Wish nothing but the best for him.

I agree. I think he brings a lot to the table. Under different circumstances, he might have gotten different results.

Let's also consider the fact that luck hadn't been on his side either. Last year's injuries were ridiculous. This year, we felt it more on the defense than the offense, having to rely on young talent in the secondary, however, that still impacted the whole team. Losing Brewer, we were 50/50 with Motely, that hurt. We can only guess how it would have panned out if his seasons at VT went more smoothly. Someone referred to him once as being snake bit going from Florida (coach retires) to Auburn (coach is fired) than to VT (unable to keep the players you planned to play on the field). He was just unable to catch a break. Hopefully he can catch one at his next coaching job.

You know, I think people genuinely like Loeffler, I hope he gets another shot at OC or QB coach as well, as painful as watching some of these offenses has been at times, his work ethic cant go ignored. Its hard to pinpoint what hasnt worked for him, I think its interesting and by far not the most exact metric, but watching the UVA game, at one point near the 2nd/3rd quarter there were so many three and outs, I took notice and started counting and there was something like 6 back-to-back three and outs.

That lead me to wondering if number of punts would be a good indication of offensive prowess, or lack there of,
and its interesting because weve ranked in the top 20 in most punts per year 5 of the last 11 seasons, 2 of which were under Loeffler.

By no means is that an exact metric, but it kind of explains why its so hard to watch our offense, we punt the ball on a regular basis A LOT more than other teams...

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Optimism: Memphis this past year ranked in the upper portion of least amount of punts last year. That looks promising, unless turnovers were the reason (pssst they werent, but thats one issue with using that as a metric).

No wonder our punters are so kick ass!

We always want to improve our special team ranking. /s

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I think Loeffler is like any coach in the college ranks. If he had higher quality players to run his system, the results would have been better. There are plenty of sub-par coaches out there winning because of a talent gap between their team and the opponents. The best coaches are able to get the most out of their players and put them in the best position to win. I think he did that at times, but couldn't always cover up all the deficiencies. I wish him the best as well.

I don't think I'd use Andrew Ford in a case for Loeffler... but that's just my opinion

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He was a four star recruit and Pennsylvania's Gatorade Player of the Year coming out of high school.

Loeffler seems more like a pro coach to me. College doesn't have the practice hours to implement the complete details of his system.

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And the 3-5 year limit on a player's eligibility.

It seems that the consensus in this thread is that Lefty is a good coach, just was never in a place to succeed with the rash of injuries, 3 different starting QB's in that span, and never got the offense that he envisioned to the level of expectations of the Hokie Nation. However, he was a solid step forward and only wish him the best in the future...

My ultimate criticism of Lefty is the complexity of his system. This isn't the NFL. Between automatic turnover (due to graduation, attrition), and the relative skill level of your players, you don't get a lot of "development" time. I think When you have a complex system (relative to other systems), you leave a lot to chance. He may have been a great thinker, but when your players can't execute it (regardless of reason), what's in your head is irrelevant. I wish him and Brewer nothing but the best of luck in the future.

Loeffler was the right coach for the right time.

When Loeffler came to Tech in 2013 the cupboard was absolutely bare. The biggest hurtle to overcome was the lack of a decent OL. That times more than 2 years to build.

Loeffler's biggest fault is that his system is too complicated for underclassmen. His biggest strength was that his offense is complicated. Skill players in HS can recognize that if they learn his system, and execute, that it's a path to the NFL.

I bid him well, he's a good dude, and will always be a Hokie.

Brewer. was also the right QB at the right time. He epitomized true Hokie grit. Not the winningist Hokie to play the position, but I think he won the fans over and probably will be one of the fan's most favorite.