So I see in Twitter and through other sources that Tech is extending numerous offers. 2018 and 2019 seem to be the most common. What I'm wondering is how this works in terms of priorities and guys they would truly take. By my count there are over 100 offers out for the 2018 class alone. Do we tell guys that "Here is your offer, commit now, or once we take a commitment your offer might disappear?" I'm unclear on how this works and we can extend so many offers and what happens if guys start committing, and how you manage the number of players you want to take at each position. Thoughts?
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The numbers always work out. I think last year we extended 227 offers and had 27 recruits sign. First, many kids choose to go elsewhere on their own. Then you've got kids who have an offer, but we land someone who is a better fit. I'm sure the coaches let them know that, at worst, they will pull the previous offer, or, at best, they will honor the offer but the kid likely will not play much so they should consider another offer they've gotten.
You can look through every offer we put out for 2017 on 247. The majority ended up at programs competitive with ours (or just out of our league). But there are some where the kid ended up at an obviously lower tier program and you just have to wonder how that conversation went down between our coaches and the recruit.
Anytime someone likes to think that we honor all scholarships obviously has forgotten about Clay Dean already
Remember the chance of landing most of these early prospects is really low. I've never heard of VT rescinding offers because we filled up on commitments. Even Bama and the SEC only do this to a few players a year.
As each year's national signing day gets closer, we'll start being more careful on who we give them out to, but garunteed we'll have more room to offer late scholarships in the future as players start verbally committing to other schools or just become disinterested
basic recruiting:
you walk into the bar ready for action. you notice all the girls that you find attractive to your taste and start sending signals. some signals are stronger for specific girls than others but you keep your options open until you get a clear signal back. everyone wants the prettiest girl, but by the end of the night you may be going home with the one you hadn't noticed at first or weren't sending strong signals at beginning of the night.
Engineer here. That approach is so foreign to me. Instead, you should survey the crowd, identify possible targets, make a list of pros and cons, engage a select few, gather data, refine pros and cons list, and finally go all in on the best candidate burning bridges with all the others along the way...
Based on personal experience, my football team would sign two recruits per class...
Yes. this is called the "Engineer's Fallacy". If the goal is to fill a hole ... uh... in your roster, then rate of success increases with more quantity, rate of failure increases with less quantity. Quality is subjective to what you determine is a good recruit or a poor recruit, and only proven in the field of play after commitment.
Joey's school of football recruiting.
LOLUVA recruiting, leaving with the last girl at the bar since 1902.
Something must be wrong with this analogy because I just can't picture Charlie Wiles as part of that process, but legs to you because it sure made the thread more interesting. :--)
I'd like to think there's a lot of analysis going on there, even if their has to be a quantity aspect in order to fill a class.
Like college admissions, it's a numbers game.
...and hope you don't end up going home with the big girl with a wooden leg.
Here is your offer, commit now, or once we take a commitment your offer might disappear?
Yes that's definitely part of it. Also some of our offers are not truly commitable offers without the prospects coming to work out at our camps for our coaches evaluate the prospect further. The short of it is a verbal offer of a scholarship in today's college football means jack, it's all about getting that official NLI sent to the prospect on signing day, that's a real scholarship offer.
I recruit for a living. Not football obviously, but in any type of recruiting it's all a numbers game. Your never going to get 100% of the recruits you contact or offer. It's a way of gauging interest. We offer the chance to join the team and the recruit knows we are interested and now the team can see just how interested the kid is.
We're trying to move up in the world. We're gonna miss on a lot more guys if we're targeting guys that have offer from top 10 programs. Gotta offer some more lads.
So nice you say it twice.
Operator error.
Posting while talking to wife will get after ya.
Talking to wife? Shit I knew I was missing something.
FTFY.
Oh, we're supposed to listen?
That explains a lot.
dumb question. How do we know how many offers are being extended? Are they officially announced by the staff somewhere, or are we going by the "Blessed to receive my 4th offer from the Virginia Tech University!" tweets?
If the latter, why are we wasting 4 tweets on one recruit?
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The only information comes from the recruit, his coach, or whatever is being reported by recruiting services. Coaches are not allowed to comment any recruits, so there is never official confirmation from VT that anyone has been given an offer.
That is sorta what I thought, thanks. I guess only the coaches know how many really go out, I expect many of them that are reported are soft offers.
In my personal experience (granted this was years ago) the coach/recruiter was straight forward with me. He said we are taking three at this position and when they are filled up you won't have an offer anymore. Basically, if you want this offer to be good take it before someone else claims the spot.
If they land more recruits than they need/want at a position either the offer is pulled or if they do still want the kid and the kid wants them.....you enroll second semester (grey shirt)