This offense is bad. Guess we can't say Auburn's problem last year was the QB....without saying the same about this team. Both offenses sucked and there is only two things similar between them....just saying.
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I can't say its all Loeffler's fault. He didn't throw those passes in double coverage. So if anything I think Beamer needs to open the QB competition this week. Logan is getting comfortable and we as fans are being led to believe that no one can push him. If these are the performances that we put out for our offense then let's not get surprised because this can happen again.
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I'm not comparing our team to Auburn I'm over that entire debate to be honest. Loeffler can't pass for us and he can't run for us and he can't block for us. Our O-line hasn't won the battle upfront since before last season. That is a work in progress and so is the team. I think we as fans got comfortable after winning 6 games after the Bama loss and we thought we were contenders, but in reality this is a rebuilding stage for a team that can make a run a bowl game, but certainly not out of the question for a ACC championship game either. I don't know too many Offensive Coordinators who's had success starting out with a new team. We knew our offense had problems before the staff shakeup happened. So this shouldn't be a surprise to us that these are growing pains.
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Have fun playing quarterback for 5/6 more games Logan...they will be the last you ever play at the position....I really thought you turned the corner, however, it was a mirage.
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I don't want to hear the traditional bullshit coach speak explanations in the press conference. I'm getting tired of them saying "well, we are so close. A little here, a little there and we are good. Give Duke credit, they played a hell of a game."
No, stop it. What the fuck is actually wrong and how are you going to address the problems?
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seriously worst lost I've seen since bc in 2007 I've never seen such a horrific offensive game, we deserve to lose and Shane needs a serious look as RB coach
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Down vote me if you will but when a quarterback plays like the shit Logan was today, you put Leal in. I'll give Logan credit when due but not today. sorry Logan lovers. I have tears and I'm done with this offense and Cody Journell. There were too many mistakes today.
I feel bad for our defense. It is a shame that they don't have anything better to play for.
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LOL at the sarc... but for all the defenders out there, hes a 5th year senior playing like a true freshman.... compare LT's senior season to Tyrod's senior season, there is no comparison
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I firmly believe that the fan base reflected the attitude of the team. We were all looking ahead to Miami and LOLUVA and became LOLVT. This is all our faults
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I'm going to ignore the sarcasm here and agree with you. I absolutely think they were looking ahead. Fans aren't the only ones who look at the rankings and like to dream. They came out and played like a team that thought they deserved to win, versus a team that was actually trying to win.
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We never should have been at #14, anyway. It was nice to see, but it was an illusion based on the chaos we've seen in the last few weeks with the cannibalization of the SEC.
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Logan played like total crap and deserves blame for today. I will also say though, that when the QB is considered the only legitimate weapon on the offense (consider how we've won our other games), that's a major problem with the entire team.
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that last int by LT was the worst.... he had been so ready to throw the ball up for grabs down the field, how could he not see Byrnn was behind the safety on the post route? the safety had stopped his backpedal completely. fuck that noise ill throw it to the middle of the field with a guy covered by 3 defenders
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Speechless...almost. Eagerly await the film breakdown from French and knowing we control our own destiny may help me sleep tonight but I don't know how many years of my life I just lost watching that game.
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Technically, yes, we could still win the ACC but honestly I don't want to have us go up and get sacrificed at the altar of Famous Jameis and FSU. That gives me nightmares...
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I don't think I want this team to win the Coastal. A this point I wonder if we don't need another swift kick in the ass like last season was. I feel bad for the defense
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D played well, some of the offense played well. I do wonder if the hype got to these guys. I don't think Lefty called a bad game, as some of those plays would have been a TD or big play rather than int. lesson learned and hopefully humbled. We carry on, we still have an ACC champ game to get to.
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Why on earth did we abandon running plays like the zone stretch once we cut the lead to 6 with all that time left? Trey had the Duke defense's number for a bit. Where were the spread formations with designed LT runs or at least a run/pass option? I saw HUGE holes for Logan to take off on many passing plays throughout the game. Logan's timing, precision, touch, and vision are still lacking quite a bit if he is to play quarterback at the next level. I mean I give Duke some credit here, but LT was awful against the BLUE DEVIL secondary (and yes I know they have an All ACC corner). The guy forces it in to coverage, struggles to quickly go through progressions, and locate his open reads. Tough loss to swallow considering the strength of the defensive performance and the overall dominance in TOP and yardage. You HAVE to think if we have a qb who doesn't turn the ball over and/or a decent kicker in this one we come out on top. Yikes.
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Well, looks like it wasn't just the fans who let all the talk and rankings go to their heads.
Twice the TOP. Twice the yardage.
And we lost. Another day in the life of a Hokie.
This is what we get for dressing up like clemson
This offense is bad. Guess we can't say Auburn's problem last year was the QB....without saying the same about this team. Both offenses sucked and there is only two things similar between them....just saying.
I can't say its all Loeffler's fault. He didn't throw those passes in double coverage. So if anything I think Beamer needs to open the QB competition this week. Logan is getting comfortable and we as fans are being led to believe that no one can push him. If these are the performances that we put out for our offense then let's not get surprised because this can happen again.
Auburn had worse problems at QB then we do now.
I'm not comparing our team to Auburn I'm over that entire debate to be honest. Loeffler can't pass for us and he can't run for us and he can't block for us. Our O-line hasn't won the battle upfront since before last season. That is a work in progress and so is the team. I think we as fans got comfortable after winning 6 games after the Bama loss and we thought we were contenders, but in reality this is a rebuilding stage for a team that can make a run a bowl game, but certainly not out of the question for a ACC championship game either. I don't know too many Offensive Coordinators who's had success starting out with a new team. We knew our offense had problems before the staff shakeup happened. So this shouldn't be a surprise to us that these are growing pains.
quiet as a tomb
Have fun playing quarterback for 5/6 more games Logan...they will be the last you ever play at the position....I really thought you turned the corner, however, it was a mirage.
We just lost to Duke. At home. After a bye week.
Duke is now the state champion of Virginia.
Someone comfort me.
Worst Tech loss ever. Just demoralizing.
Worse than JMU?
Close, but yes.
Did their best player (Crowder) even have a catch? Fuck this offense right now, Thomas deserves ALL of the criticism he gets this week
I don't want to hear the traditional bullshit coach speak explanations in the press conference. I'm getting tired of them saying "well, we are so close. A little here, a little there and we are good. Give Duke credit, they played a hell of a game."
No, stop it. What the fuck is actually wrong and how are you going to address the problems?
seriously worst lost I've seen since bc in 2007 I've never seen such a horrific offensive game, we deserve to lose and Shane needs a serious look as RB coach
Logan played as bad as I've ever seen.
Kendall Fuller, however, was a bright spot.
I do not like JC Coleman as a running back. I don't think he should be in the game.
I just expected more out of Logan.
Down vote me if you will but when a quarterback plays like the shit Logan was today, you put Leal in. I'll give Logan credit when due but not today. sorry Logan lovers. I have tears and I'm done with this offense and Cody Journell. There were too many mistakes today.
I feel bad for our defense. It is a shame that they don't have anything better to play for.
Good call, hokiegirl. Logan should have been benched, but as much as I would have liked to see Leal, he probably didn't get any practice reps at all.
Journell shouldn't have been let back on after whatever his latest incident was. Let's not forget JR Collins being suspended today.
After the third INT, and several other close calls, it should have been obvious LT just didn't have it today.
Dont talk bad about logan guys! The negative turkey legs will come to get you. Its not logans fault, he has newish receivers
LOL at the sarc... but for all the defenders out there, hes a 5th year senior playing like a true freshman.... compare LT's senior season to Tyrod's senior season, there is no comparison
love the sarc but seriously how many friggin times was Willy Byrn WIDE OPEN???
I firmly believe that the fan base reflected the attitude of the team. We were all looking ahead to Miami and LOLUVA and became LOLVT. This is all our faults
I'm going to ignore the sarcasm here and agree with you. I absolutely think they were looking ahead. Fans aren't the only ones who look at the rankings and like to dream. They came out and played like a team that thought they deserved to win, versus a team that was actually trying to win.
No sarcasm here. Fan base reflects the attitude of the team.
I can't think of a thing to say that isn't patently obvious about this loss.
I'll just say, give a nice standing O to the Defense. They played to win. As usual.
Our ranking -- Completely out of the top 25 now, yes? And deservedly so.
We never should have been at #14, anyway. It was nice to see, but it was an illusion based on the chaos we've seen in the last few weeks with the cannibalization of the SEC.
Logan played like total crap and deserves blame for today. I will also say though, that when the QB is considered the only legitimate weapon on the offense (consider how we've won our other games), that's a major problem with the entire team.
that last int by LT was the worst.... he had been so ready to throw the ball up for grabs down the field, how could he not see Byrnn was behind the safety on the post route? the safety had stopped his backpedal completely. fuck that noise ill throw it to the middle of the field with a guy covered by 3 defenders
Do we seriously not have a better kicking option than Journell?
I'm more pissed at Journell than Logan. Kid's a turd, and he's turned into the least reliable kicker we've ever had
I love Logan but I think you have to at least give Leal some reps at this point.
I agree. What's the worst that could happen? We only score 10 points against a bad ACC team?
Defense did all they could. Offense and Kicking, not so much.
The worst part is every time I reload this thread I see that toolbag with the YOLO hat at the top
I wonder if Duke is going to give the gameball to Logan Thomas....gaaaaa damn it!
i miss sean glennon
Don't you dare say that
I'm not even mad or sad or anything. Just in a state of shock.
I really don't think we missed too much of a beat with the new defensive starters. Duke protected their QBs well all season.
Stats:
Total yards:
VT: 387
Duke: 198
Turnovers:
VT: 4
Duke: 5
Rushing Yards:
VT: 173
Duke: 91
3rd Downs:
VT: 4-18
Duke: 1-11
FGs:
VT: 1/3
Duke: 2/2
Time of Possession:
VT: 39:27
Duke: 20:33
Won every single category. And still lost. Defense played great. Offense looked like last year, not even last month. What a disaster
Duke didn't have a 3rd down conversion did they? That was a fourth down the got
No, they converted on 3rd down once in the 4th quarter, before the 4th down conversion.
Sickening.
Not every category.
Fair enough. The kicking game only won on the aggregate number of people pepper sprayed.
Best Defense in 1A, worst offense in 1A?
Speechless...almost. Eagerly await the film breakdown from French and knowing we control our own destiny may help me sleep tonight but I don't know how many years of my life I just lost watching that game.
Technically, yes, we could still win the ACC but honestly I don't want to have us go up and get sacrificed at the altar of Famous Jameis and FSU. That gives me nightmares...
after witnessing what I just watched all I can ask for is win against UVA...that would be nice
I can't argue. I think there is a bottle of SoCo around here with my name on it...
I lost faith in Cody long ago. Now it's down right inexcusable for him to start.
He shouldn't even be on the team
As one of my friends said "I can miss a couple FG a game, if it gets me a scholarship too"
I don't think I want this team to win the Coastal. A this point I wonder if we don't need another swift kick in the ass like last season was. I feel bad for the defense
A swift kick in the ass is one thing. Rolling over and dying is another.
I hear Josh Freeman isn't doing anything on Saturdays and his Sundays will probably soon be free as well. Anybody know if he has any eligibility left?
We lost to a good Duke team, but this just shows were not elite right now. And this may take some time.
I haven't been this upset since Michigan. This sucks. Poor defense...
Minor setback.
Major comeback.
I hear what you're saying and I'm on board.
But some minor setbacks should never happen. Ever.
Agreed. Time to dig deep and be a better football team and fanbase. We all probably got the hype bug.
Still. You're absolutely right.
D played well, some of the offense played well. I do wonder if the hype got to these guys. I don't think Lefty called a bad game, as some of those plays would have been a TD or big play rather than int. lesson learned and hopefully humbled. We carry on, we still have an ACC champ game to get to.
Why on earth did we abandon running plays like the zone stretch once we cut the lead to 6 with all that time left? Trey had the Duke defense's number for a bit. Where were the spread formations with designed LT runs or at least a run/pass option? I saw HUGE holes for Logan to take off on many passing plays throughout the game. Logan's timing, precision, touch, and vision are still lacking quite a bit if he is to play quarterback at the next level. I mean I give Duke some credit here, but LT was awful against the BLUE DEVIL secondary (and yes I know they have an All ACC corner). The guy forces it in to coverage, struggles to quickly go through progressions, and locate his open reads. Tough loss to swallow considering the strength of the defensive performance and the overall dominance in TOP and yardage. You HAVE to think if we have a qb who doesn't turn the ball over and/or a decent kicker in this one we come out on top. Yikes.
Poor Bud, just give the team to him. You ever see him on the sideline? Fired up as all hell? We need him to light a fire in our offenses ass!
This is how I feel...
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