OT: 2019 European Summer Transfer Window (EPL and other leagues)

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The 2019 transfer window is open for the major European leagues. Feel free to discuss comings and goings in this thread. Maybe Nabil Fekir will sign for Liverpool!

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For me this summer has the potential to be quite exciting. It seems all but certain (at the moment) that Hazard will come to Madrid this summer, and likely for a reasonable fee relative to this absurdly inflated market post-Neymar transfer because of his only having a year left on his contract with Chelsea. I would be shocked if we did not get Hazard for less than Barcelona paid for each of Coutinho and Dembele, which makes me very, very happy. I think the final price will be somewhere around €100m.

Once the transfer window officially opens silly season will be in full effect. There is genuinely nothing in sports quite like the constant onslaught on misinformation, conflicting information, agent's drumming up interest/value with fake stories, club's using favored journalists to test transfer rumor reactions, etc. that comes with the European transfer market.

We still have a CL final to go, so I'm sure that the chatter inside the LFC camp will be minimal for the next two weeks. I am hoping that we bring in similar personalities into the fold. I don't foresee us spending a boatload of money, seeing as we only fell short by 1 point to City. However, I'm sure City will spend a good amount to reinforce some of the aging stars they have, so it would behoove us to add a piece or two.

My hope is that a lot of the reinforcements will come from in house, a la TAA (I'm looking at you Brewster, Ki-Jana). Hoping we can grab a LFB option to support Robertson, a 4th choice for the front 3, and if Mignolet leaves, a tenured backup keeper. If they can do that amount of business shrewdly and on the cheap, I'm ready to head into the next campaign with that type of squad. As much as I would love DeLigt, I don't think CB is a area of need, especially the way Matip played and the way Gomez and the Colossus were playing together earlier in the season.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

What I would give for united to sign Bruno Fernandes. That said looks like daniel james from swansea is almost done which I dont mind hes young and freaky fast could be a good weapon off the bench with his pace.

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And now its official

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What even is that shirt? Yuck.

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looks like they're going for the Hawaiian shirt theme next year

surprised its not a button down

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This is Adidas's leaked kit for Arsenal next season. They've knocked it out of the park! The away shirt is great, but the home shirt is next level good. Will buy.

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He was actually signed in January but loaned back to Dortmund for the remainder of the year. Small technicality tho

VB born, class of '14

BVB have made early moves to spend the Pulisic money, bringing in: Julian Brandt from Leverkusen, Thorgan Hazard from Gladbach, and Nico Schulz from Hoffenheim

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

BVB are always efficient with spending the spoils of the talents they develop. They are a very well-run club.

Arsenal will reportedly have about $11 to spend on transfers if the Europa League final goes south and there is no CL football. Thrilled about an owner-driven journey to the middle of the table in the coming years.

Arsenal looking to sign another keeper tells me that once again we don't plan to address the lack of backline talent.

VTMidge

I'm not worried about that specific instance. Arsenal is looking to replace their #3 keeper, from what it looks like. Shouldn't really have a big $ impact.

There have been plenty of rumblings about Manolas and some others. I'm not going to get too upset about "budget" signings this summer because in reality we did really well in the last summer window with limited money. The problem is that even if we sign good players for low prices, we won't have enough money to fill all the spots that need filling if the reports about our funds are accurate.

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Humorous thing about funds at Arsenal.....Wenger kept his job for so long because we weren't blowing budgets like other clubs to sign big players. Where has all that $$ gone? I know recently we have spent to get guys in but no where near what we should have had. The signing at keep is to replace Cech, although we can't make him leave because it would cost us to much. Thankfully Leno has done well and not had injury issues.

VTMidge

When Wenger was counting pocket change, we were paying off a large amount of stadium debt. The fact that he kept us in the UCL for that long is nothing short of miraculous honestly. Note how Spurs didn't buy anyone last summer. There's more TV money these days so they're not going to feel the pain as much as we did, but it's the same deal.

Also we've sold very poorly over the years (the Ox sale being the only one anywhere close to the good value Liverpool and Spurs have gotten from their recent sales). And our wage bill is all messed up, something they claim they're trying to salvage now.

Martinez will likely be our #2 keeper next season. If he's not, he'll want to leave too. I'm 95% sure the next GK signing will be a #3.

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We need at least 3 players. A decent Ramsey replacement, A back line player or 2 and a threat off the wings. It would be nice to get 1 more striker to bring in for Auba or Laka late in the game. The focus though has to be defense and a replacement for Ramsey. My guess is we'll have a little more than the reports suggest after we sell a few guys.

Correy

~$3.50 each on a defender, central midfielder, and winger leaves 50 cents left over for a #3 GK, yeah? this match makes me sad

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Leroy sane might be going to Bayern for a reported 100 million. Word is he wants to stay but Bayern really want him

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

I'd be surprised if City let him go, how else are they going to rebuild for some of the age that is starting to show? (Aguero, Silva, Fernandiho)

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Leroy wants to be a first choice XI guy and he likely won't be next season, and some guys don't want to wait until a spot opens up. I'm not saying it's the right/wrong choice for him to leave or stay, but all these guys are different and value different things/goals in their careers.

Oh I perfectly understand that. But the club has some skin in the game too, to decide whether they want to let him go or not. As a Red, I will not miss him AT ALL, I think he's got a lot of talent, and I think most City supporters would hate to see him go.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Gabriel jesus, foden, gundogan.

Sane doesnt cover any of those holes, but it will be sad to see him go. Nobody can replace aguero I'm dreading the day age catches up to him and he slows down

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

Would feel this is a way better deal for bayern than Bale would ever be the kids freakishly good just needs regular time which he isnt getting whether its because of pep or himself dunno.

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Apparently has some work ethic issues. I'd be sad to see him go but he is crazy inconsistent. I hope he can figure it out I'd love to keep him, I'm less worried about fernandinho after gundogans appearances at the end of the season

We so desperately need some help at that position though, more than anything. I think stones will rebound just fine. I'm really sad we let jadon sancho go. I'd feel so good about this situation if we let him walk.

Welcome to having a deep squad I guess, no one is going to cry over our situation, I will be happy to see us turn profits on players though

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

Slightly bummed that LFC didn't get Brandt.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

I work with a buddy whos a fellow man united fan who desperately wants us to sign Bale and it makes me sick hearing why he wants bale. Would be an awful deal for an injury prone player almost 30 years old.

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Please overpay for Bale and keep Pogba

He even wants united to do a straight swap of pogba for bale. It hurts hearing him talk sometimes. I personally would like to see pogba stay but it wouldnt kill me to see him walk for a decent fee

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keep Pogba

Well he's been our best player the last three years so yeah that'd be ideal.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Really? Hard to believe De Gea wouldn't get the vote on this one. Pogba actually makes United worse when he's on the field...seemingly, anyway. I wonder if there's a statistical analysis of their record when Pogba plays versus when he doesn't....like Spurs actually have a better record when Harry Kane is out of the team than when he's playing.

De Gea has shown hes human this year and I'd argue talent wise pogba is better right now. It doesnt really matter whos on the field they look like shit atm to be frank. Losing de gea wouldnt kill uniteds ability to actually score goals the way losing paul would in my mind. Doesnt matter whos between the sticks when you have Jones smalling and ashley fucking young in front of them we're going to concede goals no matter what with the three stooges in defence. Sort out the back four and add some spine to the midfield and I think we will see the better pogba and de gea though.

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The pogba narrative always comes from Pool fans. I'll never understand such an infatuation.

Nonetheless

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Thanks for that info....hope he plays for United for many years to come.

I'd say its similar to the way everyone loved watching Karkius in the sticks for last years final is the closest to compare to.

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General question: How did you pick your EPL team? I want to start casually watching the EPL but don't know where to start and have no natural ties to any particular club.

In that situation the best thing to do is just start watching on Saturday/Sunday mornings for a few months when the new season starts, and one team will strike you more than the others.

You can try to pick one beforehand, but if you are going in with no pre-conceived notions or ties to certain teams, why not just see which team you are drawn to organically?

This is what I did -- started following the Saturday morning games (as well as midweek EPL/FA Cup/UCL games that I was picking for Streak For The Cash), and that's how I wound up stuck with Arsenal. It's the best advice

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I became a MC fan when MU was on top and they were second fiddle in their own city...........I typically pull for the underdog.......I am a Tech fan, duh. I'm not a huge soccer fan, but Premier League is entertaining TV on cold, rainy winter Saturday and Sunday mornings.

My sister is a Liverpool fan so this past season was particularly exciting.

Holy Hell! I took the survey and it gave me MU......hilarious! Go Man City!

Yeah and I got Chelsea... Which is about l the worst possible answer it could have given.

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For me I read an article by a guy who went on a tour of all of the EPL stadiums one season, and he came away with feeling like Anfield was the best environment. I also had an affinity for Klopp when he was at Dortmund so it was a natural fit for me and his managerial style. Lastly, I was a Lebron James fan a couple of years ago, and I found out that he has a small percentage of the club, I figure if he could resonate with an inner city born kid like him, I would find something to love about it as well.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Agree with all of the other posts about watching and seeing who feels best, but I'd say don't feel tempted to pick a lovable loser in this sport. You could very well lose your club (assuming you don't live in the UK) due to the promotion/relegation system in which the worst 3 teams leave the EPL every season and play in the lower tier until they can, if ever, get promoted again.

If you choose a team that gets relegated you may very well lose the ability to see them play at all because the lower tier leagues don't have TV contracts here. It would be a totally unforeseen catastrophe if Manchester City/United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham, or Liverpool are ever relegated at this point in the sport. You'll most likely have a club you can follow for life out of those 6.

When I was picking, you could only ever really see ManU, Arsenal, and Liverpool on TV here, so those were my choices. And Arsenal just so happened to have Bergkamp, Henry, Pires, et al. at this time and played the most beautiful game in the league.

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There's also a difference between Lovable Losers and Plucky Underdogs, and plucky underdogs can be fun to follow too. There is a decidedly second-tier group of teams that should solidly stick around in the top-flight for quite some time, barring a major change in ownership situation: Everton, Leicester City, West Ham, maybe Wolves. Newcastle is also a fun club, but they're a little more high variance.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I've always understood that Newcastle's fanbase is absolutely rabid and it's a real shame that they have the Dan Snyder of the EPL as owner. Would be a great club to support if the guy would piss off and take away the annual uncertainty about their ability to stay up.

I have been an Arsenal fan since I was young (mid 1980's) and it came about because the cannon. I have seen this question asked before on here. My answer then was that Arsenal is the Virginia Tech of EPL. Arsenal had always hung their hats on past league results, finishing in the top 4, and doing well against rivals. Virginia Tech has the consecutive 10 win season, bowl streak, and beating up on UVA. New coach came in a couple of seasons ago at Arsenal to replace Arsene Wenger who has been there from 1996-2018. Wenger found success during the early and middle stages of his tenure. Lost his grip on the team towards the end and results slipped. Emery came in and is working to rebuild. Beamer was at Tech since the dawn of time. I won't talk about his tenure because I am not worthy of it. But we all saw. And it sounded the same as Arsenal. Watching both teams gives me slight heart attacks because they play to the level of their competition. The both lose games that they shouldn't, win games they shouldn't, and just when you feel like giving up they do something brilliant. Virginia Tech = Arsenal and I love but hate it.

VTMidge

My first love was actually Wolverhampton, I loved those jerseys and colors in middle school but dear lord the club was mismanaged and then got relegated and impossible to watch. They returned again and everytime they came up they were relegated again pretty quickly it became difficult to catch any games and to become attached to players prior to streaming being a thing. They were eventually run into the ground which just made me sad. Still have a bit of a soft spot for em but I would absolutely reccomend you at least try to pick a club like Everton where you dont have to worry about relegation fears. Albeit with reddit streams these days championship games are still pretty easy to catch

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

Soccer Reddit streams died a painful death it seems. That said with ESPN + it's not too bad to watch the championship anymore. I listen to the ESPN FC podcast and caught offside they usually keep up on the lower leagues to help keep along with that

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I think what hurt Wenger is twofold. 1st and probably the largest factor is the entry of the free spending Middle East and Russian money at Chelsea and Man City. That made it harder to stay in the top 4. Then there were some mismanagement issues. How in the hell we allow Sanchez to get into the last year if his deal, Ozil as well and then let Rambo go for free? That was bad management. Then you see Liverpool get over 100mil for coutinho and spend it to shore up its defense. We're about to see the spuds sell Erickson for some coin and reinvest as well.

Correy

Also don't rule out other leagues (notably La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga). I'm a Roma fan for example. I was drawn to Serie A due to Italian heritage and growing up watching the Italian national team. If you have any personal connection to a certain country that could be a route to finding a club. Also different leagues have different styles of play so you might prefer one.

All of that said, I must admit that the Premier League the most easy to "casually watch" due to its availability in the U.S., though others are improving

Another reason I love Dortmund too, German polish heritage has always given me a soft spot for them particularly when Lewandowski was lighting it up in my college years. I loved those klopp teams, and I still really love me some Jurgen klopp, dudes really likable

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

I owe my support of Arsenal mainly in part to HokieBone12. I mainly supported Bayern, and when I would talk to him about soccer he would talk about Arsenal all the time. So I asked him about the club and he showed me clips and other highlights of recent years (this was probably 2012-2013?). This was about the same time EPL started airing on NBC Sports and I started to check out a few Arsenal games and fell in love with how they played. Been hooked ever since then. It also helps that a few a-hole fans really turned me off to Chelsea and Man United.

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My advice is to wait until Monday afternoon, then you'll have the mighty Aston Villa as an EPL club to choose from as well.

Hahaha. You really are a glutton for punishment following Aston Villa and Virginia Tech! Bless your heart.

VTMidge

It's like the crazy guy from Dead Man On Campus. There's no thrill if there's not a chance you'll actually die. But I will tell you, it makes days like Monday that much sweeter when you've been dragged through shit for the last five or six years.

Told y'all. Support the team with a captain who grew up in the club, Super Jack Grealish, looks and talks like a Peaky Blinder and takes every opportunity to poke fun at their closest rivals to the point where their last game away at Birmingham City, a fan ran onto the field and punched him in the head. So Super Jack got up, dusted himself off and went on to score the winning goal. Also, they signed a midget meathead from Scotland last summer, John McGinn, who they couldn't play the last couple games of the season because he'd gotten too many yellow cards and if he got one more, he'd get suspended for 3 games and would've missed the playoffs. This team is so much fun.

Take this with a very large grain of salt...

Supposedly there are reports out of Italy that Pep is leaving Man City for Juve for 4 years €24m effective June 4th

Link

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Italian source, I'm not worried in the slightest bit about it

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

Italian sources get it right more often than not (the reputable ones). But yeah this ain't happening.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Out of all the team's in the EPL. Tottenham is the Virginia Tech of it

When in doubt. Nap it out

I think Arsenal is a better example. Long tenured coach, failed to win a CL despite winning multiple league titles during their "prime window," elevated the program to a new level during the 90's and early 2000's, has had "money" issues to complain about (Transfer spending for Arsenal, recruiting spending for VT), new coach coming in after long tenured coach who completely changed the direction of the club/program and elevated them to new heights.

I think you can make some Tottenham parallels but the late 90's/2000's Arsenal and VT are just too similar imo.

Also, big cannon.

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Arsenal doesn't fit at all. They are one of the most successful teams in English history...I believe they're third place for the number of trophies won. Tottenham is historically a cup team-they've only been champions of England twice, which is way down the list.

VT has won conference titles but never a national championship, and before 1995 didn't really do much of anything historically on a national stage. There isn't really a good comparison in England, but I guess Spurs fits best. Actually, maybe Leicester City if you equate one-time Champions with a national championship appearance.

Arsenal, Liverpool, Man United and Everton are considered historical English blue bloods. They have the most trophies. It's hard for younger fans to realize this but Arsenal have been in England's top division longer than anyone else and Everton was a power for the majority of the 1980s but hasn't won a major trophy since 1995.

Chelsea and Man City are considered clubs that bought their trophies as their collective histories were average at best before being bought by billionaires in the last 20 years.

This is actually a pretty good debate-who is VT's EPL equivalent...I'm not sure that club is even in the Premier League currently. Fulham might actually be a good candidate: working class mentality, never been champions but play an exciting style with a venerable stadium and hardcore fan support.

Does that make Liverpool the Miami of the EPL? Lots of money, historical success, won the whole thing (CL) a handful of times, but can't do jack shit in their own league?

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18 times champions is jack shit in their own league? interesting take...

In whose lifetime? In which league?

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

The person with the Arsenal jacket but Liverpool kit is Christian Oxlade-Chamberlain, Alex's younger brother.

Notwithstanding, this is why everyone thinks Liverpool supporters are annoying. Someone makes a joke about Liverpool's lack of EPL success, Liverpool supporter deflects and talks about titles that happened thirty years ago, someone else points out that those titles were thirty years ago in a different league structure (which was the whole point of the original joke), Liverpool supporter deflects by questioning via meme the other guy's club's supporters' dedication.

YNWA's a pretty cool tradition tho

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Dallas Cowboys of the EPL you say?

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Did you know Arsenal had the original Kop? Well, I didn't either, but my brother told me who happens to be a life-long Gooner.

The structure of the league hasn't changed, it's the same as before just with different names for the divisions (and four fewer teams in the top division). All the prior tie-ins with European qualifications are still intact as before.

How many Liverpool fans do you know to make such a statement? And I mean real Liverpool fans-those that have seen their clubs pitch.

Uh oh, here's the real fans argument again. Love these.

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Almost as good as Liverpool fans saying United/Arsenal/City fans are bandwagon fans lol.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

I live in New England now and since the FSG bought into Liverpool... every f'ing new englander is all in on liverpool because of Red Sox ownership. Huge bandwagon effect

VB born, class of '14

Yeah and I don't have a problem with that. It's an identity. That's part of the reason I felt connected to united as a Tampa Bay Bucs fan. My beef is with the Pool fans who think they are making some kind of trendy, underdog pick by cheering for Liverpool when I know FAR more Liverpool fans than United fans. I'd say it's like an 8:1 ratio. Then they pretend United are the cowboys of the prem with regards to fans.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Been a Liverpool supporter since I was 7 and my dad used to take me to their games when we lived in London in the early 80s...if that makes me a bandwagon fan then so be it. At least I've seen my club's pitch.

Cool. I've been to White Hart Lane. U wot m8

Edit: just banter man. Of course most Americans will root for man city/u, chelsea, arsenal, liverpool and spurs. They're on tv more and are successful. We can all have our own clubs without getting defensive

VB born, class of '14

Right on...I went to the lane when liverpool played spurs in a league cup game...my dad is a HUGE jimmy greaves (Spurs legend from the 60s) fan so Spurs are his second team. He's definitely a red on June 1st, though. I've always liked Spurs, good fans and good brand of football...exciting club doing it the right way.

Did it occur to you we might not even have to have this discussion if you weren't gatekeeping folk's fandom? Not everyone can afford a trip to europe to see their club play. No need to shame people for it and question their allegiance.

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

The particularly ironic part of gatekeeping fandom with an act that requires above average financial means is that the entire history of English football (and most of European football) was born of and representative of the working class. With the crazy amounts of money in sports these days it's certainly lost some of that over time, but even to this day season tickets for European football are way more affordable than American sports.

can't make it up

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Notwithstanding, this is why everyone thinks Liverpool supporters are annoying. Someone makes a joke about Liverpool's lack of EPL success, Liverpool supporter deflects and talks about titles that happened thirty years ago, someone else points out that those titles were thirty years ago in a different league structure (which was the whole point of the original joke), Liverpool supporter deflects by questioning via meme the other guy's club's supporters' dedication.

Certainly sounds like the Miami fan of the EPL to me

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Eeeh Liverpool would my 3rd choice of team because my brother is a Liverpool fan and he hates Miami as much as me

When in doubt. Nap it out

ITS ALL ABOUT DA 'POOL

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And my Tottenham to Tech comparison is because alot of Tottenham players have gone through the youth squad or picked them up when they were young and not well known. Makes me think of before recruiting services got big and started to scout everyone. Tech took a lot of kids that team's didn't think about recruiting and turn them into beasts

When in doubt. Nap it out

Actually, this is probably the best one...Spurs are the Hokies of England...well done. Kane was a lifelong Spurs fan...most Hokie legends are from Virginia...good comparison.

In some actual Merseyside transfer news, GK Jonas LΓΆssl will head to Everton on a free when his contract with (relegated) Huddersfield Town ends. He represents a high quality #2 behind Jordan Pickford and means Maarten Stekelenburg could move on.

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Shocking, really. I mean there is absolutely no way anyone could have seen this coming. UEFA said everything was totally safe there....

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This whole thing is an embarassment for UEFA really. Also the stadium seats some 69,000 and only less than 10,000 have been allocated to the actual supporters section which is pitiful.

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There were 2 Armenian teams in the UEL this year, I believe. Imagine if one of them made the final. Of course that was highly unlikely and awarding Azerbaijan the final was totally fine and risk free.

Unlikely like Leicester City winning the league. Totally impossible, right?

Looking more and more likely Newcastle will finally be sold to a relative of the owner of man city for roughly 350 million dollars which could be big in the long run that clubs a sleeping giant waiting to come back into relevance. Always loved what Newcastle are as big of anuts fan base they have I've always felt bad for what Ashley has dragged them through and with a good manager already there if they spend well it could be interesting to see where they go from here.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Not to be a stick in the mud, but Newcastle haven't won the league since Calvin Coolidge was president, so I'm not sure they count as a sleeping giant. Unless we're talking Rip Van Winkle, century-long-medically-induced-coma levels of sleeping. But just like Man City, who was an also-ran for their entire existence until a billionaire royal bought them and then paid $400M for the naming rights to their stadium to get around FFP rules, Newcastle certainly has the ability to become a super-club if someone is willing to spend the hundreds of millions to do it. Hell, Havant and Waterlooville FC could do the same thing, it just takes patience and an obscene amount of money. My question with clubs that do this; what happens when the billionaire gets bored?

Portsmouth happens.

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... and Malaga happens, and Anzhi happens, and Monaco happens, and ...

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No harm done my point simply was they have a huge stadium and a die hard fan base with a good manager in Rafa I would say 6-7th is the cieling unless he goes nuts in investment but I feel that would be a hell of a step up from being in the relegation scrap year in year out. Its amazed me even in the mediocraty that theyve had for years under ashley the stadium is always packed regardless which shows the hunger of the fan base. To answer your last question I'd say look at Parma as a good example even though that was more than just owners getting bored.

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I say good for those Newcastle fans. I'd be crying tears of joyil if one of those guys was buying Arsenal. I think the biggest difference is that Newcastle has basically been as irrelevant as Chelsea, City, and PSG were before their takeovers but had a packed stadium full of die hards the whole time.

No one will ever confuse St. James' Park for an "emptyhad". They were mostly packing that place in their relegation seasons. Should be very interesting to see how much the guy invests. Apparently he's not from the core branch of the family that runs the UAE. Like he's massively rich but not nearly as rich as the guy who owns City.

I personally won't be interested in watching a league that comes down to "which sheikh has the most money". I know it's all about money, obviously, but that's just not interesting to me.

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I mean, isn't that what has basically happened to US sports? Its all about the money. In baseball and basketball, if you aren't a luxury tax team, you have no prayer, and even the ones with a Cap, you basically have to spend at or close to it every year to have a chance.

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Yep and I don't like watching MLB or NBA either. I'm not saying people shouldn't enjoy those leagues, I just think it takes some of the fun out of it for me.

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I totally agree and it's definitely why the NFL is the #1 sport in this country. It's just not possible to buy a Super Bowl with free agents every year. Jackass Dan Snyder learned that the hard way.

The problem with the EPL is that the clubs exist in the UEFA system as well. You can't have a salary cap in England unless everyone agrees to join hands and kiss the Champions League goodbye. No one is keeping up with Juve, PSG, the Spanish clubs, etc. with a salary capped domestic league.

It's never going to change...so I can't blame fans for embracing their sheikh if they get one.

I mean the average NFL franchise right now is worth more than $2billion in the open market, so you could make the argument that the NFL is just like european soccer, just where all the big rich teams are just already consolidated into once place.

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I had this conversation recently as an offshoot of the "looks like newcastle are gonna get an oil daddy" conversation:

I would much rather have a league with 6-7 strong clubs who are going for it and can make their argument for why they're going to win the league that year than a monopolistic league (Juve in serie a, PSG in ligue 1) or a league with two favorites and maybe a third introduction (Barca, Real, and Atletico in la liga; Bayern, BVB, and ??? in germany). The English league is the best one to watch because of this, and the more money in the league that is available to a lower-table side club, the more interesting it is.

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Never did like this sport.

But seriously, what an awful year for my two favorite sports. Tech and Arsenal football are just...sick. And there are just no obvious cures on the horizon. The stuff with Buzz Williams as well...hating my sporting life so much right now.

Arsenal needs to puuuuurge like they've just had gas station sushi. But meh, again they've bottled the end of this season but if you'd have told me in August that we'd be one game off top 4 and in the EL finals I would be pretty happy, probably.

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Hazard to Madrid and Daniel James to United are both official

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Comunicado Oficial came through clutch on my way home from work today. It was a poorly kept secret, but still happy to see it was official when I got home.

I think that Daniel James signing could end up being great business if he develops. At the reported price it's hard to get any young, promising players at a price like that.

I'm happy with the Daniel James signing better bit of business and he's got the physical traits needs to get better at finishing and crossing and he has pace to worry folks

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re: daniel james - especially homegrown players too. he only had a year left on his deal and wanted to leave, so swans couldn't get much more for him

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Slight thread hijack, but it's not worth its own; any other soccer fans at the Virginia Beach sand soccer tournament this weekend?

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My team used to play that every year. Always my favorite - it was the only one where I could ever score

I was invited to with a buddy but turned it down. I'm hilariously accident prone and really dont wanna shatter my leg again. That being said I was at his games!

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Yikes, a shattered leg sounds awful, hope all is good now. This was our first experience with sand soccer, and it was cool, but definitely not something for the injury prone. I joked with some of the other parents that it was kickboxing with a soccer ball.

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Shattered maybe milking it but I broke it in 2 places and still feel it in my ankle. Everyone I talk to seems to come out of these tournaments with an injury so its gotta be a no for me dawg. Still tournament was huge and I was impressed

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Ferland Mendy to Real Madrid is official

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Comunicado Oficial season in full swing :)

Saw some crazy thing about Real now having a crazy 330m euro net spend so far in 2019 and still not done (maybe Eriksen?) - who do you think they will try to move on to offset that, James and Bale?

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If they think they could get 100m for both those guys theyd have to be criminally insane, James is at best 30-35 mil for the right team, and bale is well a baley big problem.

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In the current market I expect to get €40-60m for James. He's a great player, he just doesn't fit in most clubs as the traditional 10 is tactically restrictive (as a result, out of style) and he is not pacey enough to have the versatility to be an effective winger.

With both players they just need to find a team willing to give them a chance. I saw rumors linking James with arsenal and almost pissed myself thinking of him and ozil together they would get destroyed. Maybe they could do a swap ozil for James or something like that not that I imagine madrid would want ozil back.

Bale is being bizarre to say the least I think hes bluffing to make the club be the first to flinch so he doesnt lose out on too much money but who knows.

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The Bale situation has been discussed ad nauseam in Madrid circles and in general transfer news for some time now. We certainly got ourselves into this situation by giving him such an enormous contract not long before he started becoming unreliable due to constant injuries and his performances on the pitch became increasingly inconsistent and volatile ranging from spectacular (CL Final 2018) to worst player on the pitch. Of course, we were unlucky in that he has become such an extreme injury risk.

His wages are certainly the biggest issue in getting a move anywhere, but that's where the situation takes on another element. Bale has a contract, and he has every right to see that contract out to the end, but is that worth possibly wasting the final years of his prime as a reserve or super sub? It brings into question his desire to actually play the game, and whether or not he'd rather just be collecting his check and golfing already. If he truly has the passion to play 1st team football again it seems there are only three options:

1) He fights for his spot at Real Madrid (he's been doing this the last 2-3 seasons really, and he's not been successful)

2) He gets loaned and we pay part (likely over half) of his huge wages to make the deal possible

3) He is willing to take a paycut (still would likely make enormous wages) to play elsewhere permanently and revitalize his career. Unless he goes to China or something and maybe he can maintain his wages.

Time will tell.

We have plenty of assets (35+ squad members right now, out of a max of 25 allowed in La Liga) to move and are in no danger of FFP trouble. We've hardly spent at all the previous seasons, especially in relation to the enormous amount of revenue we generate organically every season. We are also knocking out all these signings before July 1st so that they will all back count to the previous year for accounting (and FFP, though like I said earlier, we are not in problematic position) purposes.

Here is the squad/players under contract at the moment:

Strikers: Benzema, Jovic, Mariano, Raul de Tomas, Borja Mayoral

Wingers: Hazard, Asensio, Lucas Vazquez, Bale, Rodrygo, Vinicius, Brahim, Ødegaard

Midfielders: Casemiro, Llorente, Modric, Kroos, Valverde, Ceballos, Kovacic, Isco, James Rodriguez, Oscar Rodriguez (I believe technically registered with Castilla), and Lucas Silva (I think).

Fullbacks: Marcelo, Mendy, Reguilon, Theo Hernandez, Carvajal, Odriozola, Hakimi

Centerbacks: Ramos, Varane, Militao, Vallejo, Nacho

Goalkeepers: Courtois, Navas, Lunin, Zidane

There are plenty of assets to move within this squad depending on how things play out. Obviously, a notable portion of this group will be loaned (or already is under a multi-year loan contract) out to reach the 25 man squad limit, or sold with buyback clauses.

who do you think makes sense (or is likely) to permanently move on, if anyone?

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Strikers: Benzema, Jovic, Mariano, Raul de Tomas, Borja Mayoral

I think we sell Mayoral if we can, sell one of Raul de Tomas or Mariano, keep the other.

Wingers: Hazard, Asensio, Lucas Vazquez, Bale, Rodrygo, Vinicius, Brahim, Ødegaard

I don't think we would sell Asensio, but if we got an absurd offer we might. LV is debated hotly (and a meme lord) within the team as not being RM quality, but he is a high work rate, versatile player content with being a squad option, and unless that changes and he wants to start somewhere, he will stay. We sell Bale if someone is willing to pay

Midfielders: Casemiro, Llorente, Modric, Kroos, Valverde, Ceballos, Kovacic, Isco, James Rodriguez, Oscar Rodriguez (I believe technically registered with Castilla), and Lucas Silva (I think).

Llorente, Ceballos, Isco, are all too difficult to project what we will do so I won't try but they will likely all fetch solid fees. I think we try to sell James, Lucas Silva, Kovacic (Chelsea has right to buy at the moment), Oscar loaned.

Fullbacks: Marcelo, Mendy, Reguilon, Theo Hernandez, Carvajal, Odriozola, Hakimi

Think we see Theo sold, Reguilon loaned, and possibly Marcelo sold, but I think (and personally want) him to stay.

Centerbacks: Ramos, Varane, Militao, Vallejo, Nacho

Based on numbers I doubt we sell anyone unless we buy another CB. If anyone is getting sold though it will be Vallejo or Nacho.

Goalkeepers: Courtois, Navas, Lunin, Zidane

Sadly, I think Navas is sold to be a full time starter somewhere. I personally like him better than Courtois and he is a club legend for me after the CL 3peat, but Courtois is the younger, long term option. Luca Zidane is not a future RM keeper who at some point will almost certainly move on, possibly this summer.

Ultimately, it's really difficult to see how things play out. Nobody really knows what will happen, particularly with our midfield as there are conflicting reports about who Zidane plans to count on next season plus all the midfielders we are being linked to in the transfer market at the moment (Pogba, Ndombele, Eriksen, etc). It wouldn't surprise me to see some "shock" type sales of players like Isco, Casemiro, or Modric, but I'm not exactly expecting them.

An outside perspective from a stream of tweets from Sergio Valentin who follows RM for esradio and libertaddigital:

According to Sergio Valentin, 16 Real Madrid players are on the market. Isco, Bale, James Rodriguez, Kovacic, Keylor Navas, Lucas Vasquez, Ceballos, Llorente, Nacho, Vallejo, Mariano, Theo, Mayoral, Raul De Tomas, Luca Zidane, Lucas Silva. Marcelo will be allowed to leave if he wants.

Doesn't mean we are trying to sell all of these people, but that we are willing to hear offers for them.

If they could move Bale I think they would in a heartbeat but I don't know anyone, outside of maybe ManU, that would want to take on his wages

Edit: Just saw something on espn that they rejected talks with Madrid

There are rumors (obligatory grain of salt warning) that Utd would be willing to part with both Pogba and Lukaku if the prices were right. They could have a pretty massive warchest if they fully back Ole and let him reshape the club.

Honestly not gonna moan about lukaku at all as long as we get 70-80 mil for him dunno if thats realistic but I dont see why not. He fits a direct Conte styled approach not the Ole way, whatever that may be. Pogba splits alot of fans but personally if we recoup what we spent I wont cry over him going either so we can get a player or another midfielder that is willing to do more tracking back and all. Pogba tactically is hard to work with unless youre willing to play him in a 4-3-3 where the other two do the running and defending allowing him to kind of wander and pick out pockets of space. Challenge is united dont have the midfield to support him and I wonder if Ole would rather use a 4-2-3-1 or something that might not best use Pogba and make him a liability in the midfield. I've been curious to see if they could work him into a number 10 like role in a diamond midfield with three other mids behind to work off the ball and let him create for the front group but it still doesnt seem like it would work all that well.

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Tim Weah to Lille, good move for him; with champions league matches he should get some chances in either ucl, ligue 1, or league cup

Looks like Sarri is off the Juve. Lots of outlets reporting it's imminent.

Also, Real Madrid signed Takefuse Kubo from FC Tokyo to be with the Castilla this season. 18 year old attacking midfielder and capped Japan international

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Also Kubo was a former Barca academy product who they lost when they violated the U18 international transfer policy rules, and were hoping to bring him back in the future. They are melting down over it and it's very enjoyable to me.

Sarri to Juve is now official, looks like Roman Abramovich is looking to hire Frank Lampard to take over at Chelsea.

Also, Mats Hummels from Bayern (back) to BVB is complete.

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In city news walker resigned despite the incoming Joao cancelo (really excited for that one). We also are recalling angelino (FREAKING PUMPED I LOVE HIM) to add cover behind zinchenko (I really dont trust mendys legs at all). Finally it looks like Rodri is coming to town to be fernandinhos replacement but I've seen how this goes down the last 2 summers will believe it when I see it

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also mutliple reports of an 85m pound bid for koulibaly

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That's huge /s

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? it's a world record fee for a defender by a decent margin

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I mean ... 85m pounds. That's huge...like a lot .... pretty BIG /s

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Koulibaly's agent/entourage have been linking him with everyone and their mom the last two summers. I wouldn't take any Koulibaly interest seriously until you see one of your highest tier journos reporting it.

Yeah I'm willing to bet money that doesnt happen. If we get another cb hell be a rotation guy to replace ota/kompany not someone to push out stones or laporte

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The hummels one still befuddles me they needed an experienced center half but that kind of money on an ex player whos well past his best makes no sense.

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Marcos Llorente has moved across Madrid from Real to Atletico. Reported fee of 40m euros.

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Frustrating as a Madridista, but Llorente deserves to play and he clearly isn't going to be first choice in our plans under Zidane. I still don't like that he is going to Atleti, both as a Madrid fan and because he is unlikely to reach his full potential in such a defensive team. I think his best role so far in his career has been as a regista, or at least possession-based anchor in a team that likes to control the ball and run of play. Ultimately still happy that he will get the first team minutes he deserves, and it's good business on our end in that we profited substantially off of him, but it's always sad to see a youth player who grew up a Madridista sign for a rival.

Looks like Rafa Benitez and Newcastle couldn't agree on an extension, and so he will leave the club when his deal expires in a few days. Another managerial vacancy, but also it could mean Newcastle becomes more active with comings and goings.

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Aaron Wan-Bissaka is set to join United in a reported 50m pound move.

Benfica have confirmed that they've received a staggering 126m euro bid from Atletico for Joao Felix.

Manchester City are close to signing Rodri from Atletico for a reported 65m pounds. It's mildly amusing to me that amid all the transfer inflation, this would be a club record. Manchester City are as guilty as anyone for contributing to the inflated prices and valuations, but they've done it almost exclusively by inflating wages for established stars and players closer to the end of their deal rather than getting into bidding wars and paying way over the odds for potential.

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Dunno why Felix would go to atletico if he wants to develop as an attacking player but who knows I guess.

Thank god United are going to get Wan-Bissaka and hopefully it means the end of the heart attack of young as a full back hes been awful the last few years it will be pleasant to finally have a natural defender at that position. Still huge amounts of work needed for united though

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Atletico is pretty well known for producing a lot of great attackers, particularly strikers, and this has continued even with Simeone's more defensive, counter-attacking style.

yeah, plenty of excellent attackers have played under simeone, even if most (or all, once Griezmann leaves) have moved onto bigger clubs. if you can pick a pass and play fast, you can cut your teeth at atletico in a big way

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Oh I'm not saying they dont produce quality strikers but it seems odd kind of like Lemar last summer. If youre a defender Simeone is a brilliant coach to play for but attackers not as much. Just my thoughts kind of like say Mou coaching a striker its kind of a weird look

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But look at what Mourinho did with players like Drogba and Eto'o and Milito and Hazard and Diego Costa. Wesley Sneijder! When you don't have much of the ball, efficiency when you do have it and maximizing the chances you do get is key

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I think a lot of people didn't watch European soccer back then. I would wager a lot of people on here don't remember when his Porto side that won the CL dominated possession and took the game to giants at Old Trafford and at the Bernabeu, or when he won the treble with Inter, or when his 11/12 Real Madrid side took down Pep's Barca in their peak with a 100 point league season where we were scoring goals for fun (121 league goals) and broke just about every La Liga record in the process.

I've said this before but Mourinho is at the highest tier of managers for me, and he is too often viewed with recency bias.

Yeah, i first got into following the european leagues around 2008-2009 or so, and clearly remember that Inter side being impossible to break down, even with 10 men (Barcelona needed to, Barcelona couldn't)

Mou is great tactically, but his personality can be grating. And he definitely seemed to wear out his welcome everywhere he managed except Porto (to my knowledge)

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I remember his old teams and would marvel at him tactfully but as a man United fan I got to watch him very very closely and that's most likely blurred my opinion on him since at United he was an absolute ass at times. I still say he's one of the best ever but his last stint at my childhood club has left me a bit infuriated

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I mean that last statement is clearly wrong if our max buy is 62 million. When have we paid way over the odds for youth talent? Sane? Gabriel jesus? And while we overpaid stars early I think we have a spectacular wage system now. I'm not saying city havent contributed to price inflation (about a decade ago) but I think now days I think the shattering prices for players are more on barca (see one coutinho) and psg (neymar) for just throwing stupid money at players

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I would say you had a part in raising the price of defenders with the fullback purchases 2(?) summers ago and Stones and Laporte signings at CB. I think many clubs have played a part in this, but obviously the Neymar buyout clause purchase and Barca's subsequent severe overpays for Dembele and Coutinho have caused potentially irreparable damage to the market.

Oh mendy.... yeah still think fullbacks are such a premium in this day and age. Super underappreciated. Talented fullbacks are few and far between but name the best teams over the last decade and you'll notice spectacular and consistent fullback play I'm still shocked the values on them are even higher personally

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I was just saying City were one of the participants in jumping the market forward for defenders. I'm not saying it wasn't good business or that City is solely responsible. Obviously Madrid has majorly contributed to this over the years as well, among many other clubs. Quality fullbacks make a huge difference in the modern game, providing width and sometimes even midfield cover type roles if inverted. There are a lot of good deals to be had at fullback. Personally, I think the majority of business City has done has been quite good.

Oh no I completely agree, and I wouldnt say good on the fullback front. Some of our biggest purchases have been that position and I'm still not in love with our options. I mean shoot weve spent a fortune on kolorov (eh) clichy wasnt cheap (yikes) mendy was a fortune (double yikes) walker has been good but I wouldnt call him a strength of this roster. I mean I've never been so thrilled to have a youth talent come up in angelino if only because theres a chance well have a homegrown player filling in at fullback. I'm so jealous of liverpool's fb options. TAA is the real fuckin deal and Robertson is a damn engine

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Dont forget Man united throwing dumb money for donkey brains like lukaku who couldnt lay a brick in a field. Too many big clubs have gone nuts and eventually it has to come back to reason one day especially after the coutinho buy by barca and now players like bale whos on a kings fee doing nothing but golfing and raking it in. Eventually clubs have to realize how much they waste and start getting smarter.

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When have we paid way over the odds for youth talent? Sane? Gabriel jesus?

You haven't, and that's my point. I think you read my comment entirely backwards and actually agree with what I said? Your default defensive stance towards anyone talking about manchester city's money is just as clockwork as some of the Rah Rah Liverpool takes around here too lol

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Whoops completely misread, I still dont think our wage structure is all that bad. 10 years ago? Sure. But I think weve done a really good job in the last few windows avoiding some players (alexis sanchez anyone?) That would've wrecked our wage structure had we met their demands

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Reported mutual interest between Arsenal and Wilfried Zaha....turns out Palace values him rather highly and have to ask for even more because Utd gets 25% of the sale due to a sell on clause. Not happening on a mid-table budget.

Ozil and Mustafi are still in the club.

For desperately needed defenders...they say we're still in for Tierney from Celtic and a young guy who will have to first return to his Ligue 1 side for a year on loan or there's no deal.

Big club business happening this summer, boys.

The Saliba deal would still make me really happy even though it doesn't immediately benefit us. Tierney would be great business as well.

I'd love to somehow get Zaha but I don't think he's worth what they're asking, even if we could afford it.

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Can they? Maybe, they have a lot of money. They at this very moment, and for several years, have had the highest wage bill in all of soccer. They are already operating in what is a very risky wage to income ratio, and Griezmann and Neymar would move that needle substantially into more precarious territory.

If they want to go full who cares about the back line and just go for scoring more goals than the other team every game sure, but I dont see how you can get all of them on the field at once without issues in midfield in particular getting overrun by teams like liverpool etc would be easier to have happen. Messi isnt tracking back to defend nor is neymar or griezmann so against wee opposition sure but on the big stage I dont see how it could work unless you rotated them all.

Not to mention actually affording this, only way I see it happening is if both coutinho and dembele get sold for decent prices but you have to rememeber neymar and griezmann are sitting on some huge contracts as well.

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Looks like rabiot to juve. If so, that's incredibly tidy business by them to overhaul the midfield in one window

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A bit off topic but Arsenal released their new kit today. One of their advertising campaigns is This is home. Does vt have this trademarked?

Correy

Those kits, and all the new Adidas kits for Arsenal, are amazing.

And the mural with "This is Home" was really well done.

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The new ad is awesome. Just thought the this is home was great.

Correy

Jack Clarke from Leeds to Tottenham, their first signing in almost two years. Looks like Ndombele is close too, probably for a club record fee. (Edit: Ndombele now announced, 64m pound fee a club record by some margin)

Arsenal also announced Brazilian youngster Gabriel Martinelli today. 18 years old, plays mostly as an inverted left winger. One for the future, I guess.

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Betcha it's another Guendouzi signing when Zaha/any other winger inevitably doesn't happen. Hope this kid is ready.

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I'm still a lil surprised we haven't heard much of anything of substance regarding outgoings

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Jack Clarke got loaned back to leeds after tottenham signed him as well so you finally sign someone then loan them right back, too good.

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Mexican MF Hector Herrera has joined Atletico Madrid on a free from Porto

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Atletico rebuild is off to a pretty good start so far.

Especially now that Joao Felix has signed on for an eye-watering $142m...HOLY SMOKES!

Rodri to Manchester City is official for Β£63m

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mEs QuE uN cLuB

Youri Thielemans to Leicester City in a 40m pound deal, making his loan move permanent

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Great business by the foxes I'm pissed united didnt push to get him hes a great young mid

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Antoine Griezmann is official at Barca

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Delph to Everton and Douglass luiz to Aston villa

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Looks like Arsenal areafter Everton Soares, a capped brazilian left winger who currently plays for Gremio.

Looks like de Ligt to Juve is all but sealed - did they win the summer?

Trippier to Atletico is official for 20m pounds

West Ham got striker Sebastien Haller from Frankfurt to replace Mirko "Store-Brand Zlatan" Arnautovic, who moved to China

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Did Trippier only have a year on his deal left or am I missing something I think 20m is super low for a decent full back these days.

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just one year left, yes

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Sounds like Saliba is happening, thank goodness. I know he's getting loaned back to St. Etienne but that kid has potential through the roof.

I like Everton. Still holding out hope for Tierney and it sounds like the Ceballos loan may happen as well. those 3/4 signings would be a big big summer for us. Orny has confirmed most of those (not Everton) so I have hope here.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

(as an aside, pls don't forget to reactivate FPL!)

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Ah yes, thanks for that reminder!

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

Is there a VT fans fantasy league?

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

The 3 of us currently in my league (as of last year) are all VT fans, so yeah!

As of right now I don't see the option to start up the league yet, but when it comes up I'll make sure to post the info here.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

Sweet I would definitely be in the league I was in last year was dead by the end so itll be nice to get a new league.

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Hard to believe how quickly the news changed. Apparently a few days ago Spurs were also in for Saliba and Ceballos both. Interested to see the back line if Tierney comes and we have a healthy Bellerin and Holding, maybe in September or October. There's still the matter of the captain refusing to travel on the summer tour, but hey.

I guess Emery runs a 433 with Everton, who knows? After last year I think there's a desire for this team to have an identity out there.

Good game tonight though. Ozil looked great and Auba is a monster streaking down that right flank. And our youth prospects are in a REALLY good spot right now... John-Jules and Saka and maybe even Nketiah are all looking like contributors (hopefully Nelson as well). Tierney is a very much needed signing, Kola is excellent going forward but just isn't interested in defense, and I like this 4-3-3 Emery is running so we'll need a true LB for that.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

For my LFC fans, hearing big Virg yell "Come on boys" had me ready to walk out the tunnel:

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Can someone explain the creepy username tags that I'm seeing? Like, why do we need to know that someone's dad has diabetes? My dad did, and he died. I surely wouldn't want that as a tag.

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