Solid Momentum for the ACC Network

SBJ reported DirectTV is the latest distributor to carry the ACC Network. The Pac-12 network which launched in August 2012 still doesn't have a deal with DirectTV.

ACC Net previously signed launch deals with Altice, Verizon and Hulu TV. ESPN will depend on Hulu's and DirecTV's national footprints as they negotiate with other distributors, including Comcast, Charter, Dish Network and AT&T U-Verse.

Also, the #WeDoThis campaign coincides with the ACC basketball tournament.

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Hopefully it comes to YoutubeTV, as I have recently switched over to that.

Same. I'm hoping the $5 price increase when they added Turner was not just for Turner but for future expansion for this and some of the ex-Scripps networks but I'm still grandfathered into the $35 so if I have to go up to $40 I don't care haha.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Hope so too. I just sent feedback to YoutubeTV requesting ACC Network to be available when it launches in Fall 2019. You should do the same. More requests the merrier.

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Bump. I am loving YouTubeTV and with the ACCNetwork, my cable cutting would be complete.

Click here, type accnetwork, click submit

Two problems with this
1. We're shaking keys then it sounds like they say Touchdown Tech, so we're distracting our own offense. What do they think we have LOLUVA level fan awareness?
2. Cuts at the end to a guy in a sweatshirt with the new academic logo ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿšฎ. That trash logo is leaking over into athletics and I want it to stop

I would rant on how its annoying they're trying to peddle the Academic logo on the Fanatics site (which is who hosts our official online store) but the VT site on Fanatics is so poor that the lack of design is what creates the most frustration.

Compare the main VT page on Fanatics - Link

To the main FSU page - Link

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Want me to stop by their offices next week and let them know?

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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The only explanation is that our defense get's a pick six or scoop and score on third down, but I doubt they gave it that much thought.

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

Either they didn't think of it or I didn't. Given the state of our D last year though, I would've just been happy with a third down stop haha.

1. We're shaking keys then it sounds like they say Touchdown Tech, so we're distracting our own offense. What do they think we have LOLUVA level fan awareness?

Pick-6 on 3rd down. Duh

EDIT: I'll drink when I get home from work...

Or failed key shake and touchdown Ga Tech...

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

It seems FSU folk are rather peeved about their acknowledgment being relegated to sod.

Take the shortest route to the ball and arrive in bad humor.

To be fair they seemingly get snubbed in a lot of ACC promotion. I think its hilarious

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word is Willie Taggart requested this as part of the "lethal simplicity" ethos of their football program.

I would too. I thought it was us getting grass to throw into the lunch pail

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Hulu picking it up is fantastic. They have a great sports line up as it is.

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They'd better sign up SlingTV before opening day, or I'm not going to be happy.

โ€œYou got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.โ€
โ€• John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

Vue too. They have a bunch of ESPN placeholders, so hopefully itll be added there

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Sling has about 37 Pac-12 networks, so you'd think they could squeeze in one for the ACC

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โ€• John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

click on the link on the ACCN tweet. Looks like Vue is already in.

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Go to getACCN.com. Vue is already in!

Awesome video, terrible hashtag

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Feels like this is going a lot faster than what happened with Big 10 and SEC networks. Most analysts thought the ACC would learn from some of issues those two ran into negoatiating their carrier deals, and it seems they did. Exciting stuff.

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I assume this is just like the SEC network; if I have ESPN I have ACC?

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Probably not that simple. But if you have SECN and live in ACC territory, I wouldn't worry about not getting ACCN.

The major difference though between the ACC Network and the PAC 12 Network is that ESPN owns the ACC Network while the PAC 12 owns its network outright, so the revenue goes directly to the member schools without a corporation taking a huge cut. Now that means there are risks ESPN takes on to ensure profitability that fall on the PAC 12 if their viewership falls off but they likely will benefit dramatically by owning it themselves with how sports are consumed in the US.

Hulu and Playstation Vue to carry ACC Network.

Cord Cutters have a good start. Hopefully they keep the ball rolling for YouTube TV.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

I would have been shocked if Hulu didn't carry it at this point. Same parent company in control now.

If you're reading the above post and thinking, "is this guy serious?!?," you can safely assume I'm not.

Has anybody heard anything from Cox in regards to this?

I haven't seen any movement but I did tweet at them to let them know if they don't get it I'm leaving. Their response was that they sent my request to the programming team but nothing after that. I would suggest doing something similar to increase the number of people requesting it. Can't hurt.

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I chatted with Cox here in NOVA, one of the biggest VT fan footprints, and their response was meh. So, come this Fall I might be forced to go back to crappy FIOS service, and I'm no longer guaranteed to see all Tech games. No one has confirmed if games not carried on the ACCN will be broadcast elsewhere.

I'm not following the concern here. Are you saying that if you go to Fios, you're worried about missing games?
Nothing has changed with the TV rights (meaning ESPN owns all of our home games). The last time VT played a football game that wasn't broadcast or streamed somewhere was 2004.

I've had the mid-tier Fios package here in Richmond for about 7 years now, and I've never had any concerns about not seeing a Tech game. In fact, the last time I had any sort of issues being able to watch a game at home was probably a decade ago, in the early days of streaming (going back to ESPN360) and when ESPNU was still an elusive channel.

If anything, this new ACC Network makes it a little easier to catch games because there's no more guessing which channel is showing the Raycom game. And, it's possible that there will be fewer "RSN" games.

So I guess if worse comes to worse and Cox doesn't agree to ACCN, how many games am I realistically running a chance on missing out on with living in Roanoke, if any?

Being the first year of the network, it's hard to say, since they are loading up with better content than usual to attract viewers.

As a rule, I would say the games that were most likely to land on Raycom in the past will go to ACCN. So far, we already have two scheduled, and I wouldn't be surprised to see the RI game on ACCN or streaming. I could also see any of our November ACC games (except UVA) end up on ACCN.

Ultimately, it depends on how good we are. The better we do, the more likely we are to end up on the main ESPN or ABC.

The good news is that we have four games guaranteed not to be on ACCN (ODU, Duke, ND, UVA).

IF Cox says no to ACCN, you'll miss everything on ACCN. The season opener against BC and the Furman game are both scheduled for the ACCN, and we could have more games broadcast there depending on how our season goes.

My (somewhat selfish) advice is that you ditch Cox, and tell them you're leaving because they don't carry ACCN. We need more carriers picking up the ACCN, and they won't start doing it until it hits the carriers' wallet. If enough people (like you) leave the Cox's and Comcasts of the world, then they'll be forced to add the ACCN, which gives VT (and other ACC schools) more money.

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This is what my family is doing. We will say bye to Cox and sign up for Hulu + Live TV or YouTube TV (if they are carrying it when the season starts).

I sent a note to Comcast/Xfinity

their current party line is

Our content and programming teams are in regular contact with ESPN (one of the owners and the distribution arm for this network) on many topics, including this network. The Comcast programming teams and our local management teams constantly evaluate programming choices and make decisions based on customer interests, costs, channel bandwidth management and contractual obligations.
As with any network contract, we want to come to an agreement that offers the best terms for our customers and our company that keeps both our costs and our customer's monthly costs to a minimum. Situations may change based on customer demand, channel bandwidth opportunities, business opportunities, costs and contractual obligations. Thanks for your feedback, your passion and your patience. It has been shared with the right teams. If/when a decision and contract is announced, we will be sure and make that information widely known in many places. Other providers may have announced that they have a contract to start offering this programming once the channel launches (August 22, 2019). Our teams continue to negotiate.

Disney has struck a deal with the National Cable Television Cooperative (NCTC) for carriage of the ACC Network and more

Less than a month from its Aug. 22 launch, ESPN's ACC Network still doesn't have carriage deals with Dish, Comcast and Charter (amongst others), but they've now signed a deal with the National Cable Television Cooperative. Cablefax's Amy Maclean broke the news Tuesday that ESPN parent corporation Disney has struck a carriage agreement for the ACC Network (as well as extensions for FX and National Geographic) with the NCTC, an organization of smaller cable operators; that will now allow the NCTC's operators to opt in to that deal and carry the network at launch.

While the NCTC isn't as big as holdouts Dish, Charter or Comcast (who have an estimated 47 million subscribers combined), it's not insignificant. A release from 2018 about them adding Cheddar said their companies "collectively serve over 8 million subscribers," which would put them ahead of the likes of other companies that have already signed on, including Verizon (4-5 million), Altice (3-4 million) and Hulu (2 million). However, it's notable that this is an opt-in arrangement for NCTC members, so the actual numbers of subscribers being offered ACC Network as a result of this may be considerably less; Maclean's piece notes that their previous Viacom deal in particular (back in 2014) saw about 50 members decide to opt out.

Still no news on youtube TV. I may be switching to to Hulu in a month if Youtube TV doesn't get the network.

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Have you tweeted at/contacted YoutTube TV to place your complaint? We need to raise awareness!

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not tweeted, but did the request thing online. so, there is contact. I probably should call or email directly too.

Edit: Email sent; their response is posted below.

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I probably would've said the same thing until a few years ago, but now I work for a company that does a lot of lobbying alongside NCTC. This is how a lot of rural communities that aren't served by "big cable" get decent channels. It, as a cooperative, is made up of (mostly) rural cooperatives that lobby to purchase rights to these channels at better prices than they ever could on their own. When the number of subscribers is 1.5 million instead of 15,000, the pricing gets much, much better. Not to mention that networks like ESPN and Disney aren't likely to have the conversation at all if the subscriber count is so low.

This may not be great news for many of us who have big name ISPs or television providers, but it's huge for folks in small towns that are streaming TV or using cable from a local provider.

Also, I know that ESPN essentially is Disney, but you get the idea.

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I see that Xfinity still has no deal. And even if they do strike one, I imagine its going to be put on its highest priced tier or maybe even having to buy it separate. So for our games that get relegated to ACCN, I think I'll take up this guy's lifestyle ; )

Not seeing how Comcast/xfinity isn't worried there market covers massive ACC team states, especially in Florida.

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Have you dealt with Xfinity. They don't care!!!!

Besides, they have their name on an arena in Philly, and make plenty off the deal they have there. Why do they care about anything else?

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Fuck Comcast. I will never, ever give those fucks one more dollar of my money. I seriously cannot put into words how much I hate that organization.

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I actually love Comcast. Cox can get the hands though

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Yeah, relative to other cable companies, Comcast isn't all that terrible. But then again that's like saying "relative to other airlines" or "relative to other for-profit 'universities'".

Perk of streaming is the easy switching...I will be switching my YouTube TV account to Hulu TV if Youtube doesn't pick it up.

Latest from what I saw on a Comcast forum around carrying the ACC Network is that they're holding out until they HAVE to "go-live" with the ACC Network, which seems to be August 22 on other carriers.

My personal opinion - I would expect a deal to come through in the next 2 weeks for Comcast to announce. The ACC has too large of a geographical footprint for them to flat out ignore the fan base.

Any word about Dish Network ?? I had Hulu for awhile and still could go back to it. But was hoping Dish would get off their rears and get in the lineup..

Jack R.

LOL...Dish network...didn't they go without CBS for a few months or something a few years back?

Yes, they are notorious for it

Unfortunately, Dish Network is my only option at this time. I'm still under contract with them or I would switch to Direct. However, I live in such a "rural" part of SWVA that I cannot get cable or streaming services (since I have no internet at home).

But, yes, they went without CBS and NBC affiliates for months. Last fall they took away HBO and are now threatening to remove FX, FXX, National Geo and those other affiliates. It's incomprehensible.

I live in the RU area, you might say. And I have Hulu plus Dish . But I have my Hulu on hold till I see what Dish is going to do. I use Shentel for my computer and run my Hulu off of it. Should have dropped Dish last month but waiting . Hulu is great at $45 a month.. Wifi , high speed is the Key...

Jack R.

I live farther west, closer to the tip of VA (near Bristol). Unfortunately, there are no fiber optic cables close enough to my house for me to get internet service or I would have already hopped on Hulu or YoutubeTV. Just praying Dish picks up the network before the season starts.

PS Vue is pretty legit for sports with a nice DVR and you can cancel at any time. Pick it up for football season then drop it. I have PS Vue, Hulu, Netflix, Raspberry Pi 3, and a few logins from my in-laws, and I STILL pay less for TV than Dish Network.

At first I was baffled that Cox hasn't reached a deal (only option besides streaming for me in Roanoke), but after doing more research, it makes sense based on their coverage map.

Cox Coverage Map

Not really. They have a lot of subscribers on the East coast. There are a lot of FSU (and other ACC) fans in the Florida Panhandle.

If I'm understanding correctly, you can't actually watch ACC Network with the base Hulu subscription. You have to sign up for Live TV, which appears to be another $45 a month. Basically, if you want to watch (legally) you have to fork an amount of money comparable to cable somehow?

Yep, streaming companies have been upping prices to the point where it's just as expensive as cable. At this point, why not just get cable and have the live tv and then just login to channels online or their app to watch on demand?

Yes, and it was always "just as expensive" as cable TV when you compared the amount of channels, etc. Sure Hulu is 35 bucks a month for - 18 live channels or whatever. It was never something for nothing. Never works that way when media companies are involved.

It was never something for nothing. Never works that way when media companies are involved.

Or any other business.

It's $45/month and includes the Hulu on-demand content plus 70 live channels. Live channels include all the espn channels SECN, Big 10 network and soon ACCN, all the Fox sports channels, NBC and CBS sports, Golf channel, all the major networks (CBS, NBC, ABC, Fox) and their local affiliates, major news networks, and most other decent channels that I can think of. It's actually a pretty good deal IMO.

It always helps to get your facts straight before posting.

Hulu + Live TV: 75 channels, with DVR included = $44.99/month
Cox Cable: Less than 75 channels, no DVR included = 103/month (taken from my bill)

Yep, plus Cable companies tend to raise your prices significantly in future years. We are paying about 1/2 for YoutubeTV than we did for Charter Cable Silver Package (for equivalent sports offering we get on YouTubeTV now) after the first year rate ended.

And like VTJ12 said above, the sports channels that are included with the basic Hulu + Live TV service are much better than my bottom tier package on Cox. My bill would double if I selected the premium sports package from Cox.

Yes, because those are the only 2 cable pricing models

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Most people don't have the luxury of deciding which cable provider to choose. That is already settled in franchising, meaning only one option of wired cable is available to them... In more densely populated areas there is even a substantial franchise fee paid by the cable company to ensure they are the only provider.

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Exactly. Most localities seem to have given one cable franchise a monopoly in perpetuity in exchange for installing access. The cable companies did the better math.

Seems like their monopoly should expire at a certain point, and any provider should be allowed to compete in any local market.

But for some reason, that doesn't seem to be the case.

Exactly. Most localities seem to have given one cable franchise a monopoly in perpetuity in exchange for installing access hiring the county execs girlfriend. The cable companies did the better math.
Seems like their monopoly should expire at a certain point, and any provider should be allowed to compete in any local market.
But for some reason, that doesn't seem to be the case.

everyone who overbuilds eventually runs out of other people's money ... actually that was the history of cable as well until technology allowed for multiple services to converge and run both ways

never figured out how exactly the count execs always seem to have someone on the local staff... do they have to get a different job after the county exec loses their job? or do they just date the new county exec?

You said Hulu + Live TV had 18 channels for $35/month. You were in fact wrong. I was offering a real world comparison to a cable company based on facts. Facts are important and should be considered before posting IMO.

Fact.
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Does the cox bill include the internet package that you stream hulu on?

No. I was comparing apples to apples as best I could.

Thanks, that's expensive AF

Welcome to the reality that many Americans face, when they have only one single broadband internet provider in their area who can dictate prices without fear of competition.

In my case, we were paying about $220 for charter cable silver package + Charter Internet

For YTTV we are now paying $52 for the service and $70 for Internet = $122 total.

Pretty big difference and we could probably renegotiate or get different internet for less than what we are paying for the convenience of keeping Charter Internet.

I was paying $190 per month for Comcast internet and cable with sports package (because the only reason I get live television is for sports).....switched to Verizon internet for 40$/month and youtube tv 50$/month. Total is now $90/month

I get all the sports channels I had before plus more, have unlimited DVR, can stream on 3 different TVs at once, and am not locked into a 2 year contract. Anyone saying streaming tv is exactly like cable is wrong.

I was paying same for Xfinity with 40 up 20 down internet (~$200 / month). I'm now paying $40/month no contract price guaranteed for two years for FIOS 100 up/down internet. I have PS VUE when I want it for $45/month plus Amazon, Netflix and Hulu. All told I pay ~$120 per month when I have VUE turned on and ~$70 per month when it's off. Any way you slice it I'm saving money.

DANG! I pay $75 /month to Comcast for a 300/20 line now. I probably pay too much for all the apps and stuff but, still better than being locked into dish.

Comcast was almost $300, FIOS was $265 when we dropped cable. We did DirecTV now for a while but now on Hulu and it's a lot better than DirecTV Now. So now it is $70 for internet and $45 for hulu and then HBO on top of that. So ~$125 per month instead of $265

I only got 70. Where are your other 5 channels????

A lot of people forget all the taxes and fees that go into the billing for Cox, Verizon, comcast, etc. I saw my parents bill and because they had three tv's with HD boxes and DVR capabilities, it added almost $100 on top of the bill.

Don't have that problem with YouTube TV. No BS fees, no taxes (at least nothing added on), no box to pay for, and unlimited DVR space at no extra charge.

I honestly don't understand why most people are still paying for cable. Got my dad to drop cable from Verizon (only pay for phone & internet) and add YouTube TV, and now he is saving at least $130/month

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Because some cable companies (Comcast) charge you almost just as much for only internet as they do for internet + TV, so removing your cable TV and adding another charge saves you next to nothing.

Oh, and they can legally slow down your access to those services now. That too.

#thingsiblamethemvsfor

This. If you have 1 box and bundled cable and internet it's the same price or less than a streaming service + the non bundled internet. I just canceled cable and I'm just going with streaming services during football season.

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I'm planning to purchase a subscription to ESPN Player, which would allow me to stream their content internationally. Would games aired on the ACC Network be made available on ESPN streaming outlets?

Probably not at first, maybe after a few years.

I asked that question to their support team. This is the response I got.

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Thank you for contacting ESPN Player support.

The ACC Network launches in the USA in August 2019. We are working through what rights are cleared for ESPN Player. We cannot confirm at this stage, but we will communicate as soon as we have more information.

Cool, so more money that won't be given to the players. Got it.

I've seen Cox and Raytheon together so much and Cox's footprint is so strange that I'm convinced Cox is a front to create a government/military network and the consumer service is just a cover. Would explain why it sucks so bad.

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For anyone hoping YouTube picks up ACCN fill out their request form:

YouTube TV request form

To follow up on this. I emailed them through their support and this was the response:

This is Armand with the YouTube TV team. Thanks for emailing us!

I love the idea of having the ACC Network on YouTube TV! It's possible that this network will be available on other streaming platforms but unfortunately, the ACC Network isn't currently available on YouTube TV, and we haven't received a definite time as to when this would be available from us.

I understand you're considering to cancel your subscription if it wouldn't be available soon and we're hoping that this would be part of our lineup soon. We're always eager to hear your thoughts on how we could improve our service. I'll pass along your feedback to the team! You're also welcome to share requests for your favorite networks directly through this form.

I hope this answers your question. Let me know if you have any other questions or concerns. I'll be happy to help!

All the best,

Armand C.
The YouTube TV Team

Note: the form is the link that Noble-Hokie posted.

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That's more of a response than I've gotten from them in the past 3 months. I've used Noble-Hokies link a couple of times, emailed support and provided at least 1 other 'contact us' online form submission. At least you got the form letter.

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Yea, I was surprised at the response. I expected much less.

I mentioned I was going to switch to Hulu TV, and although they didn't mention it by name, they do seem aware that Hulu having it could lead to a number of cancellations. I'm guessing, overall, unless YTTV is getting a good deal from Disney/ESPN, it probably won't add-up financially and they will not get the network. And because Disney owns Hulu, Disney probably does not see much benefit to allow Youtube TV to get the channel. I could see scenarios in which YTTV offers to pay way over value, and Disney does not want to accept that offer so that Hulu reaps the benefits.

So, I have a strong suspicion that I'll be a Hulu subscriber within a month.

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Keeping yttv from having espn would prevent them from ever becoming a mainstream alternative to cable

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YTTV has ESPN...

But Disney didn't own Hulu until recently; so, who knows what that means in the future. In an analogous streaming service, Disney has stopped producing content for Netflix. I kind of expect a similar trend to start for live TV streaming, but idk.

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I know they do but I would assume there is some form of a contract set to expire in a few years

What I don't understand is why Disney makes Disney+ and ESPN+ separate offshoots. Why not just make it a $5/$10 addon for Hulu? Integrating would be a better experience and probably have more people sign up.

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I think I remember hearing about some kind of combo deal with Disney+ and a few other services that will be an affordable package. I think it was either Disney+, Hulu, and Spotify or Disney+, Spotify, and ESPN+

Disney+, Hulu, ESPN+

And they just announced the bundle as $12.99 per month.

EDIT: And it's Hulu with ads in that bundle, so it's less attractive.

Even still that seems like a pretty good bundle for those. Hulu has limited stuff I want to see on a regular basis so the ads are okay in that sense. Really excited about Disney+ though. Wouldn't pay for ESPN+ normally but in that bundle I might.

EDIT: But thinking about it a few more minutes it probably makes more sense to me to just suspend ad-free Hulu while using Disney+ and just alternating between the two. ESPN+ would be a nice addition but my interest in watching ESPN content has fallen significantly in the past few years.

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I guess that means we'll lose access to ESPN+ by having the main ESPN package already?

ESPN+ has always been an add-on.

You might be thinking of ESPN3.

Probably, but it says ESPN+ in the corner of the screen when watching it on my computer/phone.

The way the math breaks down is that Disney+ ($6.99) and Hulu with ads ($5.99) is $12.98 by themselves, making ESPN+ a penny in the bundle.

Hulu without ads is $11.99 per month.

Using the same math, a triple bundle without ads should be no more than $18.99 per month. If I were the mouse, I would offer that at a dollar less than what HBO Max will end up costing.

Or the same price as HBO Max, and point out that it's 3 services for the price of 1 at every opportunity

That's Hulu with tv? I thought it was way more

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No, that's regular Hulu that shows ads when you load a show or movie to help subsidize your subscription.

Any idea if Sling TV is going to carry it?

I wouldn't count on it. Sling and their parent, Dish, have a history of dropping channels from their offerings including regional sports networks.

Also, in case anyone needs info on who will be offering the ACCN, the link below lists all of the providers:
http://theacc.com/news/2019/3/11/general-acc-network-frequently-asked-qu...

How can I get ACCN in time for the August 2019 launch?
ESPN is working hard to ensure that ACCN will be broadly available via video providers across the country. Carriage agreements are already in place with the following video providers: DIRECTV, Google Fiber, Hulu Live TV, Layer3 TV, Optimum, PlayStation Vue, Suddenlink, Verizon Fios, as well as, members of the NRTC and Vivicast Media and more. For the latest updates and list, please visit GetACCN.com. You can also contact your pay TV provider and request that they carry ACCN as part of its channel lineup.

Looks like I'll be adding Hulu Live TV to my current Hulu subscription for the football season.

ESPN plus ACCN. Still less than my cable was going to be, and I'll get a LOT of games. I'll do it the week before college football.

Just dropped DirectTV and got Hulu Live using Roku Ultra, so far i'm very pleased. ACCN was the reason i went Hulu over Youtube and Sling.

They haven't added in the ACC Network yet, but for those of you looking for the specific channels offered by all of these streaming services, cordcutternews.com has a pretty extensive chart that makes it fairly easy to compare.

For those of you who carrying Verizon Fios as your TV provider, I was just informed by them that the ACCN will be broadcasted on channel 619.

That makes no sense. 619 is currently the AccuWeather channel. It's stuck between the news channels and NatGeo type of channels. Completely isolated from the sports channels in the 570-590 range.

I figured they'd push some of the RSNs around to make space near the other ESPN channels.

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Quidditch is a real thing (well, as real as can be for a sport with flying brooms) that people enjoy. In a world where esports are broadcast daily and bring in large revenues, I'm ok with it.

If you're reading the above post and thinking, "is this guy serious?!?," you can safely assume I'm not.

JK Rowling is brilliant at creating a wizarding world but her rules for quidditch are out of whack

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No way man. It makes just as much sense as allowing a soccer game to come down to penalty kicks.

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

Awesome! Thanks for the heads up.

The doll's trying to kill me and the toaster's been laughing at me.

So, is Spectrum planning on carrying in NC?

Horrible for them if they don't.

I'd bet they're waiting until the absolute last minute before carrying the channel.

No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

If they don't, North Carolina is basically blacked out of the network. Which would be unbelievably stupid for the home state where the ACC is headquartered to not be able to watch the network at launch.

There is zero chance this would still be an issue if basketball season started this month rather than football.

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and yet it would also be the most #goacc thing ever

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

Absolutely.

At least DirecTV has it so we can watch at the bar.

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Get Hulu

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Spectrum subscribers shouldn't worry, an agreement is on the cusp.

I am going to be in Europe for the first games of the season. Does anyone know if ACCN will be available via the ESPN app (if my cable provider carries it...)? Also, anyone have any tips on watching CFB overseas? Should I also use a VPN?

I can't say whether ACCN will be available but you have to use a VPN to watch pretty much any US live TV from overseas. (I've lived in Asia for 6 years) There is the paid ESPN Player app someone mentioned above that lets you watch ESPN without a VPN but I don't have any experience with it since it's only available in Europe and not Asia.

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I travel to Europe once a month for work. I can get ESPN to stream about 50% of the time with a VPN. If I can't get things to stream, I usually try for a radio app. NordVPN has been my go to. Good luck!

Europe is the land of live sports streaming. Just google and you'll find sites. On game day i usually help those in need with a link.

Vpn in Europe should not be required. But go with ExpressVPN is you need one

first row sports anyone?

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Only if you're good at knocking down pop-up windows.

People still browse the internet without adblockers?

Even with ad blockers, first row sports is a battle.

Cox Cable here in Roanoke just says they are still in talks with ACCN/ESPN to carry it. But send a tweet to Cox and ACCN - or your cable provider..

Though I only football games I have to worry about missing on TV is Miami, ND, and GT. I assume at least of two of those will be nationally televised or local TV.

I wouldn't be surprised if ESPN and the ACC force a bunch of big games onto the ACCN over the first half of the season to force the issue on making the providers carry it.

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Don't know.. Worst case is for those three games I will walk down to 202 here in Roanoke and watch with the Hokie Club.. all the other games, I will be there in person... But I always enjoyed recording the game and catching some plays again or hear the commentary on some.

Notre Dame is on NBC.

Ummm.....where is Comcast???!!

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Am I the only one that's insanely curious to hear the networks side of it? We always hear this bickering between networks and the carriers but right now the ACC is begging fans to be their pawn so they can justify it. I want to know how the ACC/ESPN/etc have handled, what they are charging them, and so on. Curious how it compares to SEC Network and whatnot.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

YTTV is now supported

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Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

I wonder which is cheaper, YouTubeTV or HuluLive?

YEEEEEEEEEEEEET

This makes it easy!! good news. glad my cynicism regarding Disney blocking YTTV was off.

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Went by the Xfinity store today. We'll cut our TV watching expenses by about half when we drop them in a few days.

I appreciate Comcast holding out. We'd likely never have looked into it, much less taken the plunge to cut the cord.

I'm shocked with Miami and FSU here in the state xfinity hasn't announced yet.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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the contract is national, though a good chunk is in ACC territory. i think they'll sign sooner than later.

they're losing $1700+/year from me and I'll probably give about a grand of that to Hulu/Disney.

So my plan is to sign up for the free weekly trials whenever VT has a game on the ACCN. I should be good until my Uverse contract expires next year.

Will just have to create a new google email each time. OR you can get Verizon internet and they give you a free month of YTTV. Then cancel the YTTV and start abusing free weeks

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You'll have to use a different credit card and email address each time.

Does anyone know what cable package will be needed to get ACCN with Fios? Can't find it anywhere online but it looks like the preferred package carries similar channels like SECN and Longhorn Network so I would guess it would have ACCN once service begins right?

My guess is that those details are still being worked out and won't be available online until go-live for the ACC Network. I would call Fios, but be prepared to not get a ton of information. Cox Cable seemed dumbfounded when I called to ask about the ACC Network.

For those of you who know you will be getting the ACCN, does it show up in your channel guide/menu yet? Most of my usual go to bars for are saying they don't have it and I am wondering if they will and just don't know it yet.

Whatever. It was one bad year.

Come to Blacksburg and see what the Hokie Pokie is really all about

I don't think it's ready to go live yet. I'm sure there will be some kind of update when they do.

Launches August 22

Thanks, follow up Q for the DirectTV folks, do you know if the channel will be included in the sports pack or will it be an a la cart add-on.

Whatever. It was one bad year.

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I don't have to take this abuse from you, I've got hundreds of people dying to abuse me.

So they are basically down to Comcast and Dish Network to get signed, is that right?

@hokie_rd

I think AT&T U-Verse is still holding out too

Yes,that's the Hokie Bird riding a camel. Why'd you ask?

Cox hasn't signed either. I was on the phone with them yesterday and they had no idea what I was talking about.

Which is part of why I dropped them after March madness.

Time to cut them loose.

Still waiting, Comcast.....

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And Cox are being a bunch of...

Cox.

I wonder how much it will cost Spectrum customers?

It's all coming together...slowly and in a manner that makes certain provider subscribers nervous. Hope ESPN can finish off the deals in time so (most) everyone gets the BC game.

@hokie_rd

Wow Shentel is on board and Cox is still dragging feet... I am just hoping I can find a bar to watch the Clemson/GT came on that Thursday. I suggest if you have Cox.. Daily tweets and chats to demand it..

Everybody should be calling Cox and asking why they don't have this yet.

I dropped them, and am picking up Hulu Live.

To be fair there's still a week before the network launches, and another week before our game.

so what you're trying to say is...HOKIE FOOTBALL IS ONLY TWO WEEKS AWAY!!!

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To be fair,

Cox Sux.

I feel justified in saying that, having been one of their subscribers for 9 years. We shouldn't have to beg for ACC network coverage.

I mean, sure, they suck about as much as any major telecom company. And no, you shouldn't have to "beg" them, they're taking their time to try to negotiate the lowest price for the new channel. Theoretically, lower prices for them means slightly lower prices for you, even though most of the difference will probably just end up in the shareholders' pockets anyway.

In any case, if Hulu Live gives you everything you want for a price lower than the difference between the bundled price and the price for internet-only, I highly encourage you to go for it, regardless.

The reality is that I was already paying more for the SEC network, which I never watched.

It's academic, at this point, as I dropped them in favor of HULU live. But really, they do suck. I had to call once a month to get the card reset in my TIVO box. Blacked out streaming ACC coverage when I was trying to watch remotely from Key West last year. They were generally useless.

So I still stand by

Cox sux.

Do firestick devices work with YouTube TV? I know recently added the YouTube app. Trying to decide on the best option to watch ACCN soon!

If you can cast from your phone or TV, which you should be able to do, then yes. Just open YTTV on app or web browser, hit casting button, and good to go.

I use chromecast, but Roku and fire stick should work.

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There are some apps that disable themselves when casting (looking at you, NFL Mobile on VZW), but I don't think YouTube TV is one of those apps.

I don't use a firestick but I cast YTTV to a TV in the airport RV lot all season. I use a Chromecast device and either cast it from my phone or my iPad.

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the specific YoutubeTV app will be available on FireStick and FireTV's later this year. It is currently NOT available. I have a FireTV, and it now has the Youtube app, but it is NOT the YoutubeTV app. There have been articles posted that they will become available later in the year, but if you need an access point to start the season I would go Roku, AppleTV, or Chromecast. I know Roku has it.

My lg tv has the YouTube tv app

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Seems kind of silly to buy a streaming device just for YouTubeTV if you have a Fire TV. You'd be better off just going with Hulu or Vue for 1-3 months until YouTubeTV is officially released. Both of those services have ACCN and work on FireTV.

Anybody happen to live in Abingdon/Bristol area and use Point Broadband (formerly BVU)? I'm having trouble finding out if they will carry the ACCN or not. It doesn't show up on the getaacn website. I'd like to cut the cord, but access to My wife's Hallmark movies is continuing to be a thorn in my side.

Had the same problem. Philo TV is less than $20 a month.

Wait, what?

Just got the ACC Network Launch email from VT Athletics. Here's the listing of VT events. Looks like Women's soccer is 1st VT team to air on the network (vs. Liberty - 22 Aug)

Upcoming Virginia Tech Events on ACC Network:

08.31.19
Football at Boston College
4:00 PM | Chestnut Hill, MA

09.14.19
Football vs. Furman
12:00 PM | Lane Stadium | FIND TICKETS

09.27.19
Men's Soccer vs. Boston College
1:00 PM | Thompson Field

09.29.19
Volleyball at Pitt
4:00 PM | Pittsburgh, PA

10.06.19
Women's Soccer vs. Duke
2:00 PM | Thompson Field

10.13.19
Women's Soccer at NC State
5:00 PM | Raleigh, NC

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Hmm....a women's soccer game on 8/22, first day? Don't see how that squares with the link below, starting at 7pm on August 22. However, it might be one of the 900 games on the online only ACC Network Extra

https://www.syracuse.com/orangesports/2019/08/what-channel-is-the-acc-ne...

The ACC Network is launching just in time for college football season on Aug 22.

ACCN will go live at 7 p.m. and launch with a 2-hour edition of All-ACC, the channel's flagship studio show. The show will serve as an introduction to the network's on-air personalities.

After All-ACC, the network plans to show its first original programming project, a show on Duke basketball's 1982 recruiting class.
Other original programming teased will be a documentary on Bobby Bowden and his Florida State dynasty, a look at Clemson's 15-0 national championship team, and a behind-the-scenes look at Scott Satterfield taking over Louisville football.

ACCN plans to broadcast over 450 games this fall, with a lineup of 40 football games and 150 basketball games. ACCN also plans to show another 200 games from other sports throughout the season.

Another 900 events are expected to air on the online-only ACC Network Extra.

Here are the local channel numbers for the ACC Network in Central New York:

Spectrum: 388 (SD & HD)
Verizon Fios: 329 (SD) and 829 (HD)
DirecTV: 612 (SD & HD)
Dish Network: TBD
New Visions: 80 (SD) and 780 (HD)
Currently, Dish Network, Comcast/Xfinity and Cox don't have deals to carry ACCN.

If you don't have cable, the ACC Network is also available on several streaming services, like Hulu, Playstation Vue and YouTubeTV.

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The first original broadcast in 2019 2 days before football season is a show about basketball... in 1982? Ummm, ok.

Yep and people wonder why everyone else in the conference thinks the ACC is NC focused.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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I just got Hulu TV and while I'm saving literally $0 from my ISP cable. I really enjoy it so far. I can watch TV on both my TVs just by taking my phone around, the interface seems easy enough to flip channels during football season. Pretty pumped about it actually.

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We've had Hulu Live for 10 days and I love it. And unlike you, we are saving quite a bit of $ over our way-overpriced old Comcast deal we had forever.

My Internet + 1 box through Spectrum was the same as Charter Internet + $45 Hulu. I get to watch TV on anything now though and can take it on my phone too.

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We kept Comcast internet...they are our best option. I did add unlimited screens and additional DVR to Hulu and we're still saving a ton.

It's been asked, but I'll ask again. Anybody have the low down on Directv's channel for the ACCN? Has anyone tried to add it to their package, and if so, what do you have to buy to get it?

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No input of any real value, but I just searched the TV Guide app for "ACC" and it came up with "ACC 642.1" and "ACCHD 642.1".

channel 612...reportedly

Thanks, Dave. We're almost ready to bite the bullet and get that smart TV and tell directv to take a hike, but I'm not quite there yet and I can't miss a Hokie game.

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if worse comes to worse, wait til the day before the game and do the 7 day free trial for Hulu Live

Per TSL's free board, posters being told by company reps that Cox and Dish are coming on line this week.

edit: and this appears to be false...I should have known better than to post

Too Late.

#TeamHulu

Yep, me too. I've never seen something this close to literally being a "day late, dollar short". I was on Sling TV (owned by Dish) the past few years, but switched to Hulu this past weekend. No indication Sling would carry ACC Network, they got rid of Fox Sports Midwest a few weeks ago, and they have a history of not carrying regional networks. When it came down to it, they failed me so I went elsewhere.

same

If that's true we just need Comcast and then we should have serious dollars

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really need both Comcast and ATT (U-verse)

Yeah Cox Twitter, chat, and call center reps say "no information" instantly. One chat rep went to ask or so they said, gone 5-10 mins and came back and said the programming dept hope to have a signed agreement by launch date.

posters being told by company reps that Cox and Dish are coming on line this week.

And keeping with their company motto, Comcast continues to tell its customers to go fuck themselves

I must say, it felt, and still feels, really good to walk in and cancel our TV package with them.

11, 2, 5, 8. That's what they have to do to fit 4 games into an east coast schedule. And beyond that, there are 4 games that are on "ACC Network Extra", the streaming-only arm of the network.

I can't imagine 11am games will be frequent, mostly happening on week 2 when practically everyone is playing a cupcake, meaning more inventory of a generally lesser quality to fit into the schedule.

I don't think 3 hours is enough broadcast time for a college football game. Typically E$PN has 12, 3:30, 7 (or 8).

Yes, I agree, but that doesn't change the fact that they have games scheduled to be televised on ACCN starting at 11, 2, 5, and 8 on September 7.

Fans need to be prepared to miss the first quarter of the 2nd, 3rd and 4th games. That is a poor scheduling decision.

I'm confused by this; the BC game is scheduled for a 4PM kickoff on ACCN. So...someone explain, please.

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Welcome to the club.

Any major differences between Hulu Live and YouTube TV? I am trying to decide and will be doing trials for each but I am not sure if that is enough time to adequately choose which one to use. Also, I can use chrome cast, xboxone or an Apple TV to stream.

According to this page, you can stream either Hulu Live or YTTV from any of the three devices you listed. That article also gives a fairly extensive comparison of the two services you listed as well as three more.

Canceled my Comcast today, Guy on phone asked why and I said no ACC Network. He then said 'not another one' and 'yea we are in contract negotiations and it is not looking good'

Just thought I would pass this along!

@VTimHokie85

For those with Charter/Spectrum... any idea on what the channel number will be when this goes live?

I've not been able to find it at all on my DVR, and its supposed to be live tomorrow

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Just canceled my Cox cable in lieu of Playstation Vue. Told them not having the ACC Network was the major reason, and he didn't say anything. The guy tried to offer a discounted price, but I had to tell him that didn't fix the ACC Network problem, so he just moved right along in helping me cancel. Also, I noticed I had been getting charged for HBO, even though I never signed up for it or had any interest in signing up for it. PSA... check your bills to make sure fishy stuff like that doesn't happen to you. Mine was hidden pretty far down the bill, so I didn't notice it right away.

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So apparently Comcast has also suspended their relationship with Cinemax and is no longer offering it. No communication - just made it appear that you didn't subscribe even though you can no longer subscribe. Idiots.....

They replaced it with their own movie channel "Hitz" only issue is that it's on demand and only works with their special X1 controller.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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Comcast pls. Seriously, they have to be losing so many people.

They have until Friday or I'm out.

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