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Yea - I feel conflicted about it. On one hand, I want a guy who wins with lesser talent because I don't think VT can land top talent without winning first (winning fuels booster giving, and that can be a tiebreaker for recruits). On the other hand, I think we need a guy who can cut through the bullshit in our admin to kick em into shape. Franklin is very much the latter, and not much the former.
We would be stupid not to consider it, but I think there are better options (for both parties).
I'm spending my bye week volunteering at the bike valet for Go Fest in Roanoke this weekend. Seems like a more productive way to spend a weekend even if it wasn't a bye week.
This is sort of my bias against Franklin and why I would feel sort of icky if we hired him. I mean we would be foolish to not look into it, he has been highly successful and recruits our region extremely well. But his snake oil salesman recruiting tactics and the way he always milked Penn State for more every time any little bit of scrutiny came up about him is pretty off-putting.
But I don't know, should we care about that? I really don't care if our next coach is a total jerk and has shady dealings (no rules in college football anyhow).
It was the tennis player that only had 1 arm! I remember being in his class and the ballsiest kid on the planet asked a hypothetical question about a 1500 lb object moving at 15 mph colliding with a stationary 120 lb object, how far would the 120 lb object move" and the guy totally not putting 2 and 2 together.
a tragic run of three games can ruin your employment
You're missing the entire franklin era here. Let me give you an analogous situation...
Remember when Fuente flirted with Baylor? Lets say that after that, he that demanded all the resources in the world, and VT was wealthy enough to give him enough budeget to:
- Replace Foster with Odom
- Hire a second coordinator who just won a national championship
- Pay for four consecutive top 15 recruiting class (resulting in the 10th best team talent composite)
- Double Fuente's salary
After allllll that, Fuente still asked for more, was still standoffish towards the fans, was never really seen around town, and just didn't feel like part of the community.
After ALL THAT, a year a rolled around when:
- We had a senior-heavy roster inside the top 10 composite
- FSU and Clemson were rebuilding
THEN Fuente lost to Miami after punting from the 36 yard line, then lost back to back games to Wake and Cal, each as a 20+ point favorite.
Imagine that. Because that's the Penn State experience. It's not about the three game run. It's about a coach who treated you like the giving tree, but when he cut you down to make a boat, the boat sank.
Taking the 5 and 7 year old to Disney for fall break. Not sure I am saving any pain. Which is worse, watching VT football collapse in real time or getting bent over at every opportunity by the mouse while surrounded by entitled parents who think Disney has to be the greatest experience of their child's life, others be damned?
NOT hating on the next coach we play,
because there's an outside chance they could be our next coach.
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yeah, i get that, but the point of the trip is the williams syndrome convention in buffalo, so visiting a new city (and country...for my kids) is just an add-on to that...and toronto is obviously close by.
if i was planning a trip specifically for canada...i would go out west to vancouver and banff
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Pry doesn't even have to pack and move then! Maybe that house will be better suited as the DC residence rather than the HC one.
thanks, appreciate the feedback...my kids will be 9 and 11, so a kayak tour might be fun for them
It's about time our athletic admin figured that out.
The Blessed Demon had 5 tackles (3 solo) for ATL in the win against BUF last night, and Parker Romo went 3/3 on XP and kicked a 33 yard FG that made it a two score game late in the 4th quarter.
So we hire Franklin and he brings Pry back with him as DC. /s
Weaver isn't our AD
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no, i'm saying the opposite. We wanted to do better, thought it was a matter of coaching. Turns out that wasn't the answer.
Its going to be fun to watch the Penn St. program for the next few years since they basically said they expect to be in the national championship discussion every year until the the end of the season. Whoever signs up for that better have a real good baseline for their performance expectations, and negotiate one hell of a buyout because as we just saw, a tragic run of three games can ruin your employment.
This reminds me of Dan Snyder hiring Jim Zorn to be the offensive coordinator of the Redskins, before hiring a head coach, and then 10 days later making Zorn the head coach.
I was today years old when you taught me the proper way to spell "Tinnersee." Thank you, it has always felt off with the original spelling not correctly matching the accents from that state.
Unless you count interims, this hasn't happened in the modern era.
Are you saying you wouldn't take another Frank Beamer? We're Virginia Tech, not Ohio State
Read today's article on ESPN re: Franklin's firing.
AD cited inability to win big games, and showed the historical record against top-10 teams... which looked very similar to what Beamer had. To me this is absolutely a careful-what-you-wish-for thing....

Bye week said he'd come by and help me set up Halloween decorations.