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They can hire me for only $8M
Sure, but injuries are going to happen anywhere.
Allar is now gone for the season at PSU--would Franklin have gotten the benefit of the doubt for the rest of the season in that scenario?
The point isn't that Brown stinks. Maybe he does...maybe he doesn't.
Its that firing a proven coach who has gotten you very, very close to the pinnacle of the sport to hire a guy with a super limited sample size who beat Miami once is a big risk and a huge amount of money to lay out.
Yep! and going further back- Dred Scot and Plessy vs. Ferguson followed many decades later by Brown vs. Board of Education for Topeka, KS...
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9 months 6 days
# | Bitter: Expect no further updates on coaching search - NDAs have been signed No idea why I got my hopes up. Rocovich sold me and then Whit remained, the committee happened, the podcast happened, the NDA happened. We are such an embarrassment and no one in Merryman deserves this fanbase. I'm so tired of this. The sad thing is, I'll still watch and follow intently.
Was 3-1 with only loss to now #11 Tennessee before losing his starting QB to a season ending injury. Backup QB has struggled on interceptions. Has 5 in two games.
Franklin transformed PSU from a school that was afraid of investing too much in football for fear of appearing overzealous into a school that is willing to be cut-throat and fucking win.
Yeah i think they may have been overzealous and willing to do questionable things before Franklin...
Maybe they need to start asking how often is the committee meeting and have they narrowed to a top 20 list yet. Light a damn fire.
No one is reasonably asking for them to give us a week by week update or to go through the names of who they're interviewing or considering.
But when your initial media foray is to have committee members giving differing stories/goals to the media, making your next move hiding behind a non-disclosure agreement doesn't inspire confidence.
Pretty small sample size to make the conclusion that its worth spending about $80 million when its all said and done.
Again, the idea here is to go from contender to legit championship-level team....
Brown's had one good year in a much weaker conference with a quarterback who was clearly undervalued.
He's 3-3 in a weak ACC this year.
That's a hell of a lot of projection...
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9 months 6 days
# | Bitter: Expect no further updates on coaching search - NDAs have been signed At least the money is legit.
Maybe this at least means we can stumble back asswards into a good hire
I poked my head around a little bit, and at this point I'd say I'm a little concerned. And I don't mean to come off in the classic Hokie Twitter-meltdown type of way but there seems to be a leadership void.
There's certain people on the committee playing politics (e.g. only considering GM candidates that they personally like). Bud is pushing for Shane (I saw that on 247 and floated elsewhere). Whit has more involvement than people think.
Maybe it'll work out, but my concern is this: hiring coaches is supposed to be a job for athletic directors. That's literally their expertise. Doesn't mean they get it right all the time. But right now VT has a neutered athletic director (except apparently he isn't that neutered) and in place of that an eight-person search committee who evidently hasn't met together and is pulling in different directions.
At least the money is legit.
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9 months 6 days
# | Bitter: Expect no further updates on coaching search - NDAs have been signed I don't think you need transparency per se, but you do need to inspire confidence.
The current team/committee/leaders/whatever has done nothing to inspire confidence.
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9 months 6 days
# | Bitter: Expect no further updates on coaching search - NDAs have been signed We need someone in charge during this transition and, like him or not, he's the most qualified person on staff.
Then announce his retirement, and keep him on for the transition, and pay his whole buyout (it can't be that much). Get the new AD in, and (s)he can run the search.
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9 months 6 days
# | Bitter: Expect no further updates on coaching search - NDAs have been signed HC candidates are going to want to know who their boss is going to be.
This is a benefit of firing Pry 10 weeks before the season ended. We had time to hire a new AD (6-8 weeks) and hire a new coach. The portal window doesn't open until January. There is so much time to find a coach.
If you're going to keep Whit around, then have him make the hire. If you don't want him to make the hire, then fire him.
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9 months 6 days
# | Bitter: Expect no further updates on coaching search - NDAs have been signed I will go over the GT timeline again:
- September 26, 2022 - GT HC Geoff Collins and AD Todd Stansbury are both fired
- October 14th, 2022 - New AD J Batt is hired
- November 29th, 2022 - Interim coach Brent Key is hired full time
GT - a school that historically cares way more about nerd stuff than sportsball - was able to do this. We could have too.
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9 months 6 days
# | Bitter: Expect no further updates on coaching search - NDAs have been signed HC candidates are going to want to know who their boss is going to be.
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9 months 6 days
# | Bitter: Expect no further updates on coaching search - NDAs have been signed They ran a search and were going to hire Willie Fritz until (a) Willie wanted to play in the American Championship game, and (b) Brent key went 4-4(?) with 3(?) wins over ranked teams.
They weren't planning to hire Key, that fell into their lap. They didn't announce it until the end of November.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/35139993/sources-georgi...
We could absolutely have done the exact same think GT did.
[Fran Brown is] not really any sort of improvement over Franklin as a game-day coach IMHO
I would disagree. I think Fran Brown is a pretty saavy game day coach. He's 13-6 since arriving, and by my count, 8-2 in one-score games, 3-0 in overtime games, and 4-3 against ranked teams.
I know this isn't the best way to show someone is a good gameday coach, but I don't think it's a bad proxy.
Were they consistent because they're Penn State or were they consistent because of Franklin?
I don't think you realize that Penn State is one of the 10 most financially well supported programs in the country. They were paying $3m/year for a DC, $10m/year for an HC. When they wanted a new OC they just looked to see who was running the most creative system out there and sniped him.
They are (were) literally outspending Alabama when it comes to staff - Alabama doesn't even have a coordinator making $2m **scoffs**
And given that Penn State DGAF about shootyhoops, I bet 90% of their rev share money is going to football.
PSU is also weird bc we don't really know what the program is in modern day because the last 25 years have been: twilight of Paterno -> sanctions -> BOB rebuild years -> Franklin.
Franklin transformed PSU from a school that was afraid of investing too much in football for fear of appearing overzealous into a school that is willing to be cut-throat and fucking win. That is the great irony of his time at PSU: He elevated the program to a level that he was incapable of competing at and he lost his job as a result.
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9 months 6 days
# | Bitter: Expect no further updates on coaching search - NDAs have been signed How is a situation this convoluted the least bad option? Why do we need a rubber stamp on the committee's choice? HC candidates are going to want to know who their boss is going to be.
Hiring a coach in college has never been a transparent process. There is no benefit to the powers at VT giving out info during this process. We love it as fans but it doesn't help anyone accomplish the end goal of hiring a football coach and/or GM.
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9 months 6 days
# | Bitter: Expect no further updates on coaching search - NDAs have been signed But how are we fans supposed to trust that things aren't going well if our selection committee isn't telling us who they are interviewing every week!??
But they don't need to make themselves available. Having a non-transparent process is the only way we're going to get an agent to talk to us before the end of the season.
No other hiring process has been transparent. We may not like it because we live for info, but I don't think it's reasonable to expect one now.
Nope. To be clear, I don't think the NDAs are necessarily a bad thing. But the whole timeline of events, lack of consistent messaging, and cohesiveness of the process signals to me and a lot of others that we are making shit up as we go along. And why does it seem like we are protecting Whit? If he doesn't want to voluntarily announce his retirement and the commencement of an AD search, then fire him and hire a search firm to conduct negotiations with agents. This is not rocket science. I seriously don't get what Whit has done to deserve such careful treatment here.