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Most coaching hires don't work out. Gotta work with the data you have on hand at the time and then see what happens.
Might not want to speak too soon...
Disney (i.e. ESPN) is suing Sling to try to end the Day Pass subscription.
Disney, Paramount/Skydance, and Comcast are pretty much buying out, leveraging, or suing anyone who doesn't allow them to consolidate more power.
They are gonna get your dollar one way or another and now there is essentially no functional FTC to stop them...
Welp, looks like I'll now be going the day-pass route when I can't get the game otherwise. Unless anybody knows any other options....
This. I was talking about this with another Hokie friend the other day. If my daughter goes to another school, and that school plays Tech, yeah I'm rooting for Tech. But if she's coaching the other team, that's a hell of a different thing. I'm rooting for my daughter's success, and somewhat disappointed that it has to come against my alma mater.
It was a rational hire that we (understandably) thought could/would address a lot of our program weaknesses.
Which is what we were saying about Fuente, too.
...after a lot of new players coming in...
It seems we're going to have to just get used to that these days.
IMO, more RB and RPO run plays for Drones would be have been more effective and cater to his "Strengths".
Disagree about RPO run plays with Drones. He just has a knack for making the wrong decision in any read option play. Case in point, the jet sweep read option with #9 where he took the ball and gained 1 yard up the middle, where #9 would've been out on the perimeter with two blockers ahead of him. That would've been a huge gain if he made the right decision, but he didn't.
Found it.
Defense: Boy oh boy, did I enjoy watching this D play yesterday. This D resembled everything we heard about Siefkes style. This was the most aggressive D I've seen in a long time. Outside of a few plays and missed tackles, I am up on this unit.

Chicken Hill Tailgate for every home game is the constant. VT football team winning and playing well is the variable. Will be there. Go Hokies! We need to win and beat the spread.
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This. With Montgomery scheming open receivers in the short-to-intermediate routes, Brewer would've had a field day. We would've won on Sunday with Brewer behind center.
After we are up 24-3 at halftime, Drones only gets one series in the third quarter and then we are playing Pop/Rangel for the rest of the game.
Let's assume the Vandy game is winnable (frankly, I think it is). Flip it on its head and think about which of the next 3 games is least losable. Yes, it would suck to lose to Vandy and start 0-2. But if you can think of ordering the games in order of least painful losses to most painful losses it would be Vandy, Wofford, ODU. 0-2 sucks but we've been there before and dug out of the hole.
We absolutely can't lose to ODU. For that reason, taking a flier on your QB is high risk, low reward. Lose the game and you lose any semblance of faith you might have with the fanbase. Win that game and pat yourself on the back because you won a game you should have. ODU is a must win, IMO. Not worth risking it to find out what you've got under center.
Wofford is somewhere between ODU and Vandy. As a coach who has to think about SOS and talking points and motivations, etc. losing to an SEC team is less egregious than losing to an FCS team. For that reason, you can't afford to lose to Wofford either.
Do I want to lose to Vandy? No. But if we think about which of these three teams is going to be least painful to lose to, even if that means starting 0-2, it's Vandy and it's not even really close. If you really think it's risky to start Pop/Rangel because you're not sure what you've got with them then you start them in a game you can afford to lose (you could argue that Pry can't afford to lose any games but the Vandy game is the easiest to explain away - especially if he wins the next 2 and starts off the ACC schedule with a win over NC State, which is winnable)
If Pop/Rangel play vs Vandy and are better than Drones, you benefit from probably winning the game and you have your QB going forward. Finish OOC play with a 3-1 record and look forward to NCState. If Pop/Rangel play poorly against Vandy and you lose, welp, you're 0-2 against the MIGHTY SEC but you've shown the fans that you're willing to mix it up and see what you've got - go back to Drones and hope it's enough to get through the two games you absolutely cannot afford to lose and finish OOC play with a 2-2 record, which most people expected anyway.
Alternatively, you play Drones vs Vandy and lose, then start Pop/Rangel vs ODU and lose again then you're 0-3 and rudderless. At that point you just look silly. If you start Drones vs Vandy and lose, then switch and win against ODU and Wofford with Pop/Rangel you're 2-2 where people expected, have your QB for the season, but have to face questions for why it took two weeks of losses in winnable games to figure it out. Playing this from all sides, I think starting Pop/Rangel vs Vandy makes the most sense, if you're going to at all. Otherwise, you don't play either one of them until Drones is too hurt to play.
It really depends on your view of the Vandy game. You've made it clear in this and other posts you think we're losing. So losing is already a sunk cost to you, it doesn't matter who starts at QB. Vegas doesn't see it that way, I doubt Pry does either. He thinks he can win, and he doesn't want to start the year 0-2. That would be a bad way to begin a year where you probably won't get fired, but you are on the hot seat and need to stack wins before November.
It sounds like a bunch of message board BS. Of course Shane recruits Virginia, that was his calling card on the VT staff and probably part of the reason he got the SCAR job. Of course Shane negatively recruited against VT during Fuente, so did everybody else during that time. Shane's job is to win (if his eventual goal is to be VT HC then he needs to win at SCAR) so he does what it takes to win recruiting battles, and VT and SCAR have always competed for recruits.
There's a video after the game of Shane going up to Frank and saying "I'm glad that's over". He sounded like he HATED playing this game. The media narrative, playing against his alma mater/his dad's alma mater/his dad's old team/his old team/his old employer/the team & town he grew up with.
I think you actually make the case for starting Pop or Rangel against Vandy here.
Pry definitely can't afford to drop a game to ODU
He can afford to lose to Vandy (SEC, non-con, etc. etc.) and he likely will lose that game anyway (0 wins against noncon P4 teams in his entire HC career). If you can't afford to lose to ODU or Wofford, then you see what you've got in one or both of Pop/Rangel against Vandy. If they light the world on fire, then great, you found a QB and stick with them. If they stink up a storm worse than Drones did in Atlanta, then you know you need to stick with Drones. I think it's better to try things out in a game that you know you can lose rather than in a game you know you can't lose. If he plays Pop/Rangel for the first time against ODU and they are worse than Drones and we lose because of it, well, then you're in a world of hurt. Especially since you're probably losing to Vandy regardless of QB.
Home opener a year after losing to Vandy, I don't think you risk it. Drones is mid, but he's more of a known commodity than Pop or Rangel. Pop looked iffy against a competent Duke team, and Vandy is very competent. ODU or Wofford is where you might try that out, but Pry definitely can't afford to drop a game to ODU, we've seen other coaches do that.
I was calling for Holt's head back in 2022. He had one good year in 2023.
JC wasn't really Pry's hire, he's a holdover from the last regime. Semantics. He's successful as a member of Pry's original staff, he's not one of Pry's original hires.
bro, watch the play again. He wrapped the ballcarrier up around the neck in a headlock. It's a legal tackle. It looked awkward, but he didn't pull him down from behind by grabbing the back of the shoulderpads. I'm not arguing your other points or that Hawkins missed a block, just that it should be noted that it wasn't a horsecollar.
Weird aside I also am tracking a package (usps) that went Denver -> Charlotte -> Charleston SC -> Dulles VA. I live an hour outside of Charleston.
Overall, attention to detail has not been a calling card of the Pry era.
Yep - this is why we struggle in close games IMO. When getting a win is about performance on the margins, details matter.

I love semantics which means VT parted ways with Heach Coach JC Price and Pry hired him back as DL coach