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Total fucking joke. They openly cheated and were not penalized in any real way. VT should cheat at every chance- in fact we should advance film like Stallions did THIS season. What will happen? nothing.

I know you don't. I just can't see myself betting against the Hokies, and I'm glad that Virginia (Commonwealth of, not University of) has removed the temptation.

Who cares

They already had announced the backup would be back for the playoff and we had just seen the Eagles waltz their way through the playoffs to a Lombardi after Foles took over from Wentz who at the time was having a legitimate MVP caliber season. The FSU team, much like the Eagles, had earned their spot by winning on the field and it was taken away from them because of some bureaucratic asshole in a closed door meeting deeming their worth was only as good as their QB.

FSU's season was over before the first game was played, and they went undefeated.

Herbie's son made a wise choice, because today Michigan got NO REAL SANCTIONS from the NCAA for wide scale cheating of course. nothing of substance. A fine and penalties for scum that aren't there anymore. No reduction in scholarships, no NIL restrictions, no bowl bans, nothing of note. Of Course

Whit, Pry have been pretty clear- win the ACC is the primary goal. That gets you in the playoffs where anything can happen and usually means you have a pretty good team. The exception is FSU won it, were undefeated, and we left out for the 3rd place SEC team.

Your comment, and the ones that follow in the sub-thread above, are correct when you are looking at the state of the season just before and after Thanksgiving. VT is not, at all, like Virginia in that we are establishing goals in Fall camp, and the #1 priority is "Beat Virginia". I am not saying that you said that, but want to make clear the part of the fanbase that constitutes me and the people I interact with does not prepare to be happy with a season as long as we beat Virginia. Rather, when looking back on a shitty season where we fail to get to the playoffs, fail to win the ACCCG, fail to make it to the ACCG, fail to win 10+ games, fail to be 0.500+, we can at least hang our hats on the fact we can, almost always, take care of business against our in-state foes. But by no means do I see that as a benchmark of success. I see it as having avoiding an absolutely pathetic excuse for a season for a football program of our pedigree.

Again, I understand your point, but sometimes, as written, it comes across like we are all hanging posters & banners in our Hokie caves celebrating each season where we beat Virginia. Rather, I keep drinking until I forget things like our last bowl game against that team that also has a maroon color and a rodent-like mascot.

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