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# | What life is like for a Hokie football player a day removed from a 49-0 win 
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If the penalty occurs in the first half, the player is disqualified for the rest of the game. There isn't any way that a post-game review would help there, unless you change the rule. But targeting was implemented because hits like that are dangerous, and players endangering others should be removed from competition. This is one area that review is extremely important, because the stakes are high - called correctly, it removes someone from a situation where they may harm someone or may have already done so. Done incorrectly, it potentially damages a team unnecessarily by losing a player.
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# | Virginia Tech vs. Boston College Game Time, TV Info and Open Thread I am just irrationally mad he never took me up on a game of Tecmo Super Bowl.
There are already too many reviews." During the game and the game is already an hour longer than an NFL game. If it's called, it's called, the review can be done later by an impartial panel to see if it is upheld and has to miss time next week. No other penalties are reviewed
Scot Loeffler bought an E85 engine.
Watched the game this morning, then came here to relive the Emma gifs slowly morph from anxious and disappointed to euphoric. I love you all. God Bless TKP.
The only way this can be topped as the greatest game in this series is if Matt Ryan came back to coach BC and we did this to him. I'm going to go be irrationally overconfident about this team as long as I can. Sooner or later Fuente will fully eradicate these horrific flashbacks of offensive ineptitude I'm still having...
Yeah that was targeting. No beef from me
Here's a slightly different angle that helped me reach my conclusion. I wish I had access to the HD booth feed for these kinds of analysis - I was spoiled by too many HD camera angles while I worked for NASCAR...
I don't like the way this gets called against the player, and then the player essentially has to be proven innocent in order to continue playing.
My preference would be for the play to go into review BEFORE targeting is called.
Essentially the call would be "potential targeting", and then the call would have to muster proof in replay, so the ultimate responsibility would be on the replay, not the official on the field.
You know, innocent until PROVEN guilty. The way it works now is "guilty if suspected", but may get exonerated by the tape.
Seems to me that the initial contact was with Gaines' shoulder to the guy's upper chest. If his initial contact was to the guy's head, seems like his head would have whipped back much more than it did. Replay honestly isn't clear enough to make the call IMO. I think the call should have stood, but not been confirmed like it was.
You hit on a great point. That's one of the "rationalizations" the NCAA gave for extending the role of replay for targeting, and empowering the booth to throw the flag if a field official doesn't.
The even bigger issue is inconsistency between conferences, and even across levels of play. I'm still digesting the VT-Tennessee game, but I firmly believe that played a role in Teller's penalties from a Big 12 officiating crew.
I was mildly insane at the Giles v. Narrows game here Friday night because of the number of horse-collar tackles, cut blocks, and helmet-to-helmet contact that went uncalled. Then look at the NFL's officiating of Cam Newton. It all begins with establishing good playing habits at the high school level and having a basic set of rules consistently officiated.
Lefty was a good recruiter, and established an actual offense that could generate points and had a chance of winning. There's no doubt that the current team is a lot better now because of some of the good things Loeffler did when he was at VT.
During the Lefty years, VT beat Ohio State. Unfortunately, VT also lost to Wake Forest. The problem appeared to be in the playcalling, which often seemed almost TOO clever, and didn't really translate to reality of scoring or winning important games.
There's aptitude, and there are results. The results are what ultimately matter.
I sure am glad Loeffler left some talent on this team. I'm also glad to see Fuente taking advantage of it.
Although the Loeffler comments are perhaps in the wrong thread, you make a good point.
Edit: I'm moving my other comments on this to the other thread.
I like what Fuente is doing with this team.
What a great football game to show the potential of this team. They've got talent AND spirit, and look like they're having a great time.
Eloquent as always mcgruber
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# | Hokies get "doughnut" on defense, offense breaks out in big way to blank Boston College I'm guessing that Logan has ALL of the records for passing and rushing by a TE at VT then.
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Great explanation, thank you.
I think the biggest problem people have is the inconsistency in the way these calls are made. Clearly, after reading this, Gaines met the criteria. I didn't feel that way yesterday, but I think that reaction was colored by all the abysmally blown calls that I've seen. You know the ones - where a guy clearly launches like a spear, annihilates the other player in the head, and the officials say, "play on." Then you get this, which clearly has no malice intended and is a fraction of an inch away from being 100% legal, get flagged. That's the frustrating part for me. There is zero consistency in targeting calls. I don't know what the solution is, but I hope the NCAA officiating body finds it.
Something like this
I saw that a lot the past 2 games as well, IIRC, one of our runners was essentially tossed upside down by his head.
Maybe his system is more suited for the NFL but it's a little far to assume he'd be successful there for my tastes. As others have pointed out, his biggest weaknesses seemed to be focusing almost solely on creating advantageous matchups and failing to recognize or call the plays that the team could execute that a defense struggled against. I have my doubts that those weaknesses wouldn't cause serious problems in the NFL as well.
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I'm not asking anyone to do what Frank would do as a coach.
I'm asking people to consider his actions as a man.
I don't have a problem with this being called targeting. I saw the head movement on the replay and knew it'd be upheld.
I'm surprised that wrapping your hands/arms around a ballcarrier's neck/helmet is a-ok.
By that definition, he's always had a bit of a gas shortage.
Fantastic analysis. #Lawyered
Is Sunday practice new under Fuente?