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there aren't 17 coaches on a football staff.
if you believe we were a strong contender for kevin tolliver no wonder you don't understand recruiting.
never said that. VT should stay as hard on garbutt as possible.
easier to succeed with marginal talent at a non-p5 school IMO. Hopeful he can get us back to at least 8-9 wins soon, but this is going to be the most talented team he'll have for a while with how our recruiting is going.
The side that saw this coming 7 months ago.
On a completely unrelated note, the only universally "I'm not going to the doghouse" answer to that question is Doc. Happy is also acceptable, although a bit egotistical.
we've never recruited like a top 10 team anywhere.
If his girth betwixt you, imagine how she felt.
I was walking adjacent to Nick Acree for a few minutes on my way to class one time. When I got to class, I noticed that I had fallen behind by a full semester because of the gravitational time dilation. This is why, to an external observer, it took me a semester longer to graduate than my peers, even though we took approximately the same number of classes.
That was his freshman year. He used to date this little 5' 8" blonde girl in West AJ and it always betwixt me how he could be so large.
When we were a top 10 team we recruited like a top 10 team in the limited area Frank wanted us to recruit in (Virginia). Separate issue now behind us, but yes, we were better at keeping in-state players in state when were in the national discussion than we are now. It would be nice to find out what we can do as a top 10 team who tries to recruit nationally, like Clemson now.
Can we please understand recruiting for top talent
In 4 months here's other top schools and players
2017 LB Rahyme Johnson, decommits from UCLA
2017 recruit Exree Loe decommits from Pitt
2018 4-star OT Dare Rosenthal decommits from Alabama
2018 ATH Justin Watkins decommits from LSU
3 Star QB Kenny Pickett decommits from Temple
3-star S Donovan Stiner decommits from Baylor
3* IA DT Juan Harris decommits from Iowa again (his third time)
3* LB Jaylen Griffin (GA) decommits from Cal. Releases top 6
3* RB Michael Warren decommits from Kentucky
4-star LB Ellis Brooks (#230 overall) decommits from Duke
4-star QB Ryan Kelley decommits from Oregon
4* 2017 GA DE Robert Beal decommits from Notre Dame
4* 2017 JUCO WR decommits from South Carolina
4* 2017 MS RB Cam Akers decommits from Alabama
4* 2017 WR KD Nixon decommits from Tennessee
4* DE TyJuan Garbutt decommits from Virginia Tech
4* IMG Academy WR Jhamon Ausbon decommits from Baylor
4* QB Kellen Mond decommits from Baylor
4* TX WR Mannie Netherly decommits from TAMU - cites Moorehead's tweets as reason
4* WR CeeDee Lamb decommits from Oklahoma
4* WR decommits from Baylor
5* NV QB Tate Martell decommits from TAMU
Brandon Martin, #1 JUCO WR, decommits from Auburn
Kedrick James decommits from Baylor.
Top 50 overall player Thomas Graham decommits from USC
It's a long way to Signing day a lot of everything will change
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# | Nick Acree Added to Strength and Conditioning Staff in Full-Time Capacity Yeah, I was going to post some kind of smartass comment about this... Then I saw Acree in the gif
yeah we don't need that 247 pissing match over here.
Never listen to a teen ager! Listen to Alice Cooper's song 18. Says it all.
Check it out. Pretty funny. Pretty F'ed up. Like a wva fan after losing to Marshall.
I say we go with the little used 1 x 2 x 8 defense. I am pretty sure we can sign at least one DT per class and find a couple of serviceable linebackers. I know we can sign the DB's. They will just need to be around 250lbs and run a 4.4...may be a bit difficult to find....
You could say that about any recruiting class. The only way to judge a class is 4 years (maybe 3 in some cases) after the fact. If you are talking about stars, they okay. But arguing about how well a class performs before they even put on a uniform is just being a NATT (or a PATT)....and we all know which side of the fence you reside. ;-)
Got some live footage from an unofficial practice today. Some of the freshman apparently aren't too happy with the intensity of the S&C program. Acree put them in their place.
75-80% of the coaching staff was overhauled. 12 of the now 17 member staff are BRAND NEW TO VT. Which OOOOOOOOOOKKKKKKK, is 70.5%....5 % off, MY BAD.
Also, Tolliver's own father was quoted as saying VT was a VERY strong contender for him and TG's actions pulled the rug on any chance.
Yea, rankings in June and July do matter some, because it can set the tone for the cycle. But you're basing the entire success of the 2016 class in JUNE AND JULY. That's just as much your ignorance as mine. Also, not a single national recruit in this cycle has signed any papers yet, so let's see what happens. Like I said before, this isn't the first time a kid has backed off a commitment and it certainly will not be the last.
And so your rational and recruiting philosophy is that if a A/B kid decides to back off his commitment IN JULY, doesn't commit to a different school, annnnnnd tells you that he still has very high interest in your school, that we just say "OH WELL, he ain't comin, let's stop recruiting him and move along to the next kid." ?!? <- that's how you lose, and lose horribly at recruiting.
CJF is going to recruit and recruit hard, he's made his priorities known. He's a HC who has 4 seasons under his belt, 2 of which he spent digging out and reviving Memphis from of its own grave. I don't have any doubt that after 4 seasons in Blacksburg the results can't be just as good if not better.
Just speaking for myself, but the reason DL recruiting is brought up so much is because Virginia has produced some of the best DL talent (by the recruiting services at least) over the last 3-4 years and we've landed Hill and Settle that's it out of that group.
The names people have tossed about on other boards have for the most part been job-hoppers that last few years and some of them have somewhat shady reputations. So the question remains, what "proven" recruiter would have been a good add for the staff?
Another question is, should anyone in Fu's position be told who they should have as assistants...is poor staff chemistry ever a good idea in any organization? The last few years of Beamer's career were marked by less than 100% staff buy in with each other and occasional communication snafus on the recruiting front. Do we need another in-house cold war?
Doin't disagree with your comment. Just pointing out that our dline recruiting may not be as bad as some of the commenters seem to think. There were others moved to offense that may have helped the dline: Alston Smith is one I can think of. Also a strong defensive tackle can make a DE look a lot better by occupying blockers.
He may be able to talk the talk, but in reality, as a very quotable Ol' Ball Coach once said, "ANYONE can win at Alabama". With multiple, RECENT (and historical) National Championships in my hip pocket, even I could recruit up a storm.
I believe this was the pic that began his legend...bigger than the door frame and makes the Hokie Bird look svelt.
Really hope/wish Green gets a serious opportunity.
Love me some Baze, guys brings it hard, every game.
Ive seen him out at my local golf course with P Millsapps a few times. Great dude.
so when we were a top 10 team we recruited like it I assume? Last year's class was the worst recruiting wise in the last 5 years.
betwixt? Is that kind of like if befuddled and tricksy (elmer fudd style) had a baby?