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The best talent usually goes to the best teams. That is why we recruit like a mid-level team - we have played like one for as long as most of the current recruits have followed college football. Great defensive teams, reputation, and defensive coaches get us into a lot of defensive top 5's, but if we want to get the top talent we have to prove we can get into the big games. We finally have a believable plan to get there to sell, and it helped with recruiting last year. Show it on the field and it will help even more this year.

I remember guarding him in pickup basketball all the time when I was at Tech. I'm 6'3" and only 180lbs soaking wet so it was a pretty massive mismatch. Luckily for me he had such big biceps he couldn't even make a layup, unluckily for me he got the rebound every time. Nick Dew used to make a point to piss him off every day.

I hope thats the case. We the fan bases haven't seen the real "fixes" (maybe we never will), but I guess faith is a lot to go on for a fan base, right?

Check your math. 75-80%? I don't think VT will ever be a dominant force in recruiting. I think our ceiling is in the 20-25 range, so wrong with all your assumptions.

That kid was never a VT lock that T gray didn't say hi to his mother. The only reason he came to VT was because Ford was here. To say recruiting ranks in June and July mean nothing is just showing your ignorance. More and more of the A/B caliber offers that are out have already committed. If you aren't pulling in your targets by this point you are moving on to plan c and d kids, which aren't going to make a great class.

Kevin tolliver was the kid's name btw and he was always considered a heavy LSU lean.

Some people are just going to make excuses no matter what. It's already been said elsewhere that Fuente has realized their approach to recruiting isn't working. At least he recognizes it and hopefully he can get it fixed, but it's most likely not going to make an impact in this class.

Love that orange one with the fighting gobbler. Glad to see it looks to actually be burnt orange too. So much stuff I've seen out there is a much brighter, and therefore wrong, shade.

I agree with you here. I keep hearing people preaching "chill, relax." If this were an isolated occurrence, then yeah I understand. But this is the same old song and dance over and over. We miss on recruits in July, "ah don't worry, wait till signing day." Signing day misses, "ah it's ok, we'll do better next year." On and on. And I agree, you usually see an uptick with a new coaching staff because of the new car smell and selling the vision and excitement for the future. Spring Game and Summer Camps have passed, and mostly you just hear crickets. We have pretty bad recruiting momentum right now, no denying it.

And as far as the "hasn't coached a game" argument, recruiting is a FAIRLY HUGE job for college coaches. They've been on the trail for 8 months now. I think a lot of people are just sitting on their expectation that Fuente is going to come in and win big immediately, and somehow all the recruiting concerns will magically disappear.

I agree with most of what you're saying. Ranked classes are nice, but the fact is we're getting beat by them for kids WE want. Lets throw out the rankings for a sec, they are beating us and they have the same staff overhauls. THATS my issue.

You do realize that the program just went through a 75-80% overhaul, right?? Or do you just expect that WE'RE VT and how dare any kid from VA go anywhere else?? You obviously have no clue how recruiting actually works from the inside of a program or from a recruit's perspective. Case in point of the mother that T. Gray didn't say hello to. Kid was practically a VT lock, but a MINOR thing that could have easily been avoided and/or forgotten changed the kids' entire outlook on where he decided to go to school. There are so many cogs running for each and every coach, recruit, and parent . (btw, worked within D1 basketball program for 2+ yrs) Recruiting is a game. You may think you have entire control, then at the last second it gets yanked out from under you. Just because other schools are having better "success" (translated as higher ranked class ) as you point out in other posts, it hasn't translated into wins for them yet either. So unless teams like MD, Memphis, and Iowa St. (as you mention) ever consistently produce teams that finish seasons ranked above VT, IT MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING how their recruiting class ranks in June and July of a given cycle.

Exactly. It's not like he doesn't get any recruits at all. The problem is, Wiles is usually down to Plan C, D, and/or E because of missing on our top targets. Then we usually get the spin factor of "Well, so and so is underrated and actually a better fit for the scheme/more twitch, etc."

I agree that it should be consistent. I also think the helmets should be consistent. I've always thought that our traditional maroon helmet with white VT was the best of the bunch and we barely wore them last year. I will say that the helmet we wore against UVA and Tulsa were awesome.

I'd like to see us with a slightly more modern looking uniform. The shoulder stripes really don't bother me (I loved the maroon jersey with stripes when it first came out), but we've had that look for long enough and could use a refresh. I believe these uniforms were ordered before Whit came onboard? Beamer also loved the look and signed off on them.

I hope we'll get a new look in the next couple of years and it will be a modern version of what we wore in the Vick years.

I was making fun of myself.

Looking forward to seeing them. I'm guessing they'll be released in August?

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