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Really? I thought they were al always from the same conference.
Even Knowles returned a kick for a TD.
I do think Stroman has potential as a returner, I dont know if he is our best though.
I know the ACC provided the officiating crew on the ground, but who was the replay team? They're usually from a different conference.
Ron Cherry
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I've seen a couple that were flagrant, were called, and seemed worthy of an ejection.
But it's certainly overused.
Bud was not telling anyone to fake an injury. Players were cramping on both sides all night, he simply wanted to get Stroman out of the game.
Somewhere around the same time we did call a timeout to slow Tulsa down. I've always been in favor of timeouts for the defensive side. Seems like we give a pass to offenses for calling timeouts when the play clock is running down, but never for defenses to get set properly.
That's the only situation I'd make a big stink over it.
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# | Nebraska Targeting Call Against UCLA in Foster Farms Bowl I think he says "boy oh boy oh boy"
Only time I've ever clearly seen it in person was our game against FSU in 2007. Bowden was doing it repeatedly; even the FSU fans sitting behind us were admitting that was what he was doing. Both teams jogged out, came to the line, and then suddenly the CB would drop like a ton of bricks. Happened a few times on one drive.
Seems like if we don't have actual proof we'd give our own team the benefit of the doubt on this.
I'm going to go along with the mindset that he was injured, and Bud told him to get on the ground instead of limping off the field and possibly making it worse.
The only time I'd really get annoyed is when every play a different player is stopping the game to come off the field, and it's obvious they're all faking it.
You wanna see fake injuries, watch Cal versus Oregon from 2010.
I think you're making way too many unfounded assumptions here, which, to be honest, surprises me given your posting history. You are assuming that telling a player to go down equates to faking an injury, when there can be more than one reason to tell a player to go down.
It was pretty clear Strohman was trying to play through pain in that series. Given that he was visibly limping on the field, Foster basically had three options: let Strohman play gimpy, call a timeout, or tell him to get down so he can be substituted without risking a penalty for too many men on the field. Now I agree with you, telling a tweaked player to go down for substitution is gamesmanship. But it's not faking an injury.
You're leveling a pretty serious accusation, considering that actually faking an injury is against the rules of NCAA football, regardless of whether you personally feel the practice is unethical.
I'm too lazy to look at the stats but it looked like Motley really leaned on Isaiah when he was starting. Brewer seemed to spread it around a little more but more specifically he seemed to look to his TE's much more often than Motley.
Nowhere have I said that VT is morally above all other teams. I have never said that faking an injury is a technique that we'll never see employed by our defense. I have never once said that other teams fake injuries but VT doesn't. You're assuming quite a lot of things, which really drives my original point home, ironically.
I still think you're basing your assertions on extremely limited knowledge and a whole lot of guess work. There is no way you know who Bud was signalling to, what he was specifically signalling, or whether Stroman was or was not hurt.
Regarding the Baylor incident, you have no idea whether that player was hurt or not. You assume that he was in good enough shape that he could just walk off the field and substitute out but you forget that the defense cannot make a substitution if the offense does not. If a coach wants his most fit players on defense and the offense isn't making any substitutions I don't see a problem with a player who is fighting through an injury to go down so he can come off the field without costing the team a timeout.
Isiah, please stay away from Basketball. We need you badly on the football field, I don't want to see an injury.
Mostly, what I like about Ford is both his route running and Yards after the catch. He uses the same techniques to make space for himself to get open and when he has the ball he looks for open field running lanes to maximize his YAC. Great receiver, I wish the US national soccer team had guys like this.
So while we assume we are ethical, you assume we are not. That's fine, I'll just try to come to a conclusion that makes sense and has historic trends to support it.
(I'm a horrible lip-reader)
It looks to me like he is saying "What are you doing?!"
I think all of our departing assistants will find good landing spots. None are getting fired (at least, not technically, just not retained), we still ended the year with a winning record, and they'll have Frank working the phones to endorse them for prospective jobs. There were a lot of circumstances that worked against VT football over the last few years, some self-inflicted and some beyond our control. I think anyone looking to hire any of our guys will recognize that.
I hope all our out-going coaches do. They're all good people who did the best they could given a really difficult situation. The more I think about it, the more I appreciate them being able to string a winning record with the talent we have and the recruiting shackles that were prevalent.
The only circumstance I imagine Bud would tell a player to "get down" is if the player is hurt but is considering trying to make it off the field on a sub and just doesn't have time.
Come to think of it, I've never seen a good targeting call.mi hope they address this in the offseason
The penalty for targeting is so harsh that there should be a lesser offense that is used in the event that it's questionable.
Obvious targeting held up by review = ejection for a game
Questionable play as verified by review = sit out the remainder of drive
Then the officials could call the lesser one in most cases.
Right now it's like a conviction without a trial.
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# | Nebraska Targeting Call Against UCLA in Foster Farms Bowl That's not the rule (at least, per the explanation I have heard a few commentators give, which could be simple rationalization of weird calls). It is any contact, initiated with the head, shoulder, or forearm, to the head or neck area of an opposing player. I believe there are stipulations for defenseless players that have slightly different wording, but targeting does not, by definition, have to be helmet-to-helmet. That was the original rule, but it was expanded. The combination of "head or neck area" and "when in doubt" make this an absolute joke of a rule.
He definitely made improvements but we were porous in pass pro most of the year, and this offense couldn't afford the sacks we were giving up.
I also hated when Tulsa substituted but did not give the defense time to do so. All that happened was a replay of the down. I understand that is really the officials' fault for not impeding the snap, but to me there should be a penalty if the offense is able to run players out and snap the ball before the official can intervene. Not simply a do-over.