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Well, all schools pull offers. Every school has targets for each year. For example, this year we had to have 2 QBs at least. That was the target. Once it's filled then the remaining QB targets are told respectfully that our needs are filled and if someone switches we are still interested. Everyone knows the deal.

I think this year will be something different though. You will see a lot of off season attrition. More than ever before maybe. Definitely more than any average year, so that they can take more high quality recruits. Coaches will pull scholarships from players that aren't competing at the right level or are in their 3rd or 4th year and no where near breaking the 2 deep. Kids like Willenbrock (sp) that was offered, more than likely, to attract Drew Harris here will probably not be on scholarship next year IMO.

There will be no other way to make the numbers cap

IM is different type of WR than either JH or IF. Vt staff knows it doesnt make sense to add both Ford and IM if Harrison indicates he is solid to VT. However, we will end up with 2 of the three .. timing is key.

Would be interesting if VT knows by Feb 4th that we are choice of all 3, Scott, Nnadi AND Minor has qualifying SAT. Would a Frank Beamer - led VT pull 1-2 offers from current verbals?

I hope VT never becomes a school that doesnt honor a verbal .. and, ftr, I am not saying we will, at least not with Frank at the helm.

I am not saying that schools should be paid money from players professional salary. I am saying if players want merchandising revenue then schools should a seek return on the investment they put in to that player's development. The player didn't coach themselves for 4 - 5 years and make them a better player capable of playing in the NFL and NBA. (NBA kids that can go directly to the league is a unique case) Universities should be able to seek monetary benefits from that free coaching one way or the other.

Regarding, TV exposure. Again I am not saying that they should monetize this but you can't say that playing on a national stage and getting that level of exposure doesn't give you a distinct advantage when draft day comes and the level of salary you can negotiate for. That is a value provided to players freely by universities, conference and the NCAA. One that has not been mentioned in the comments on this thread so far.

turkey leg for the profile pic. nice one

also welcome to TKP!

ok, well.... not that good

The school is being compensated from a third party and benefits more so the better the athlete does.

this is exactly the point. Schools benefit from this and can provide athletes things like indoor practice fields, audacious locker rooms, etc. Schools get A LOT of monetary benefit from it.

But I think it's shortsighted to say players don't benefit. Look at how player salaries have ballooned since 1990. At this point college football started to make a monumental shift whereby it became a national sport where remote engineering schools set in rural VA could become a national recognized brand. The added exposure to college football only served to increase the value of the NFL, because now fans have been watching their favorite player for years beforehand. And with that change the salaries players could negotiate also increased dramatically.

Compare the highest paid NFL player in 1990, Randall Cunningham had a 5 year extension for 15 million
In 2013, Aaron Rodgers, 110 million for 5 years

As a rookie Bradford signed a 6 year, 76 million dollar deal. With 50 million guaranteed.
As a rookie in 1990 Jeff George signed a 6 year, 15 million dollar deal. this was the highest salary ever paid for a rookie at the time.

Players are given an enormous benefit with television exposure. A venue the university provides freely precisely because it is getting revenue. If players start tapping into that then schools should start to tap into these 80 million dollar deals as well.

Not every player gets a deal like that but all salaries have gone up and it's directly due to exposure.

I'm interested in what exactly Lefty is looking for in QBs. Chazz had a good point about the ridiculousness of recruiting labeling as either Pro or Dual-Threat.

Nonetheless, we have Ford and Durkin coming in that are quite different in style of play. And seems we are pursuing both "Pro" and "Dual" in 2015 as well.

Does Lefty want one particular type? or he feels any gifted QB is good for his system?

What level would that end at though? PeeWee football for getting kids on Friday Night Tykes? High schools where kids don't technically pay coaches? I would argue that the television side is a value provided by ESPN and other television networks. The school is being compensated from a third party and benefits more so the better the athlete does. See BCS bowl payouts. The school is actually contractually obligated to provide a team of players so without the student athlete the school would be in breach.

Nothing. But the NCAA would likely proceed with deeming them ineligible as well if that is indeed what they do to the first group. The problem that is in the NCAAs favor is the ticking clock on players eligibility.The NCAA could tie this up in court for years. Same thing they dis to that kid from Colorado they deemed ineligible for taking endorsement money for his pro skiing career while playing football at CU. Kid gave up tj e case after awhile.

I don't know if that even works short term. If JJ deserves to go than he should be gone. We would look almost as ludicrous in the press for this as we did with how we handled Seths firing. I would much rather Babcock make a decision early enough that he can work up a solid list of potential candidates and then proceed to find the right fit.

Two things in what you said that I might contest. The school being able to recoup monies from the player. After the fact would be tough to see happen. The school already benefited financially and in some cases continues to benefit financially from thei r relationship with the player. I compare it to free agency in most sports. The team a player leaves does not recover funds from a player if he signs with a new team at the end of their contract. Trying to separate the financial value of tv time and other media access would also be extremely difficult as the school, conference and NCAA all also benefit directly from said exposure.

He'll get the same practice time every other player enrolled at Tech will get. Same situation that Facyson had last spring as an early enrollee.

With him enrolling in the Spring, what exactly does he get to participate in? I'd assume he gets several extra months to look at the playbook, conditioning, and just getting to know fellow players. But what about practice and time with Lefty to work on technique?

I think the biggest reason of the timing, wasn't that they were going to fire him no matter what that off season, but that the exit interview that JJ gave, really put to light a lot of the concerns that Weaver and the rest of the administrators had. The fact that coaches weren't going to "greener pastures" and instead were leaving just to get the hell away said a lot about Seth. If they really knew the depth of everything, Seth probably would have been let go the previous year. Unfortunately for the program, the tipping point was during an inopportune time.
At this point, blame can be pointed in many directions, but it will be up to the new AD to put in his solution. Babcock seems to know what he is doing and had plenty of experience hiring and firing at Cincy, so I'm sure he will make the right decision accordingly.

Gray was in Lakeland, FL today (javon harrison's hometown - via Gray's twitter), so i seriously doubt he's interested in upsetting our #1 wr prospect.

It demonstrates that Loeffler doesn't mess around, and that he's not going to sit around and assume Ford / Durkin / Hodges / Motley are going to be the answer for the next 3-4 years when he hasn't seen any of them on the field (esp Ford & Durkin).

In the past I think we'd ignore this kind of prospect, because "c'mon we probably won't land him" but with the new recruiting strategy and the philosophies of the new coaches, we're making the effort to show serious interest. Can't land a fish if you don't throw your lure in the water after all.

McKenzie. Ford can join the family, right now Mckenzie can't unless he wants to walk on.

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