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Blue Collar Hokie's picture Blue Collar Hokie | 12 years 6 months # | Hokie Hoops: Team JJ or Team Cadarian?

i'm starting to wonder if we'll win another game. i know we will but i feel chicken little creeping up when i watch this team take bad shot after bad shot and come out of a time out with the game on the line with friggin iso drawn up for one of the freshman to chuck up a bad shot .

Hokie_x3_Hi's picture Hokie_x3_Hi | 12 years 6 months # | Hokie Hoops: Team JJ or Team Cadarian?

Honestly, I thought JJ would have 3 years to attempt to right the ship (didn't think he had the skills to do it and still don't) and then would see the door. Now, I'm thinking he might be out after this year. With a new AD, his job security will be low and he's not performing. Not to mention the fact that he's having the same issue Greenberg had with players transferring. The difference is that Greenberg could win games, whether he made it to the NCAA tourny or not. Greenberg was fired because he wasn't getting us to the Tournament and because he wasn't playing nice with the rest of Athletics. Now JJ isn't getting us near even the NIT. I think JJ is a great guy, but not the guy for the job.

zomfgbbqhax's picture zomfgbbqhax | 12 years 6 months # | "...especially with a weak non-conference schedule that includes Navy, Virginia Tech and Cincinnati..."

I think the whole "ten win season" thing has been, and always will be a natural stepping stone towards a championship.

Not really, look at the records of some previous MNC winners. *Does not include vacated wins since they cheated and factoring that in would just be a huge pain in the ass.

Ohio State: 2002, 10 win season before that was 1998 with 11-1
Alabama: Before the 2009 MNC they were 12-2 and were barely above .500 before vacated wins for years before.
Auburn: 2010, their previous 10-win season was 2006 and previously 2004.
LSU: 2007, two 10-win seasons before their MNC and before Saban in 2003 they had 2 10-win seasons in over a decade.
Texas: lots of 10 win seasons before their MNC
Florida State: Lots of 10-win seasons before their MNC
Florida: 2006 and 2008. Besides 2009 were their only 10-win seasons until 2000-2001 where they didn't play in the MNCG
Miami: 2001, one 10-win season in over 6 years before
USCw: 2004, 2 previous 10-win seasons and then a string of barely above .500 dating back over a decade before that.

And I'm going to stop there since getting all this data is a pain in the ass. Case in point, a lot of teams that have won the big one didn't have lots of previous 10-win seasons. FSU and Texas being the exceptions, they had a strong group of players and good coaching for years. A lot of times there were new coaches (Saban, Miles, Chizik, Meyer, Carroll, etc) taking over that energized the teams to win lots of games in a handful of seasons. My point is the pointing at 10 win seasons as something to be happy about and as a "stepping stone" to a National Title is pretty bogus. The teams that have had lots of previous 10 win seasons also had multiple appearances in the MNCG.

Also, in case you forgot the 10-win seasons were one of the major reasons we're in this mess in the first place since we could just stick our head in the sand, ignore the implosion to come, point at 10-wins for years, and say "Somethings got to be working if we can do that!"

This is in no way, shape, or form an endorsement for Beamer's retirement.

Joey Coogan's picture Joey Coogan | 12 years 6 months # | Hokie Hoops: Team JJ or Team Cadarian?

I'm on Team Cadarian. It is worth noting, however, that JVZ has showed great improvement this season and is beginning to show signs of real potential. Obviously, his offensive game is still lagging behind, but he's no longer the "project" that he once was in Blacksburg.
Still, there is no way JJ can honestly believe that playing Thompson and Beyer gives him a better chance to win. I think it's pretty impossible to be on Team JJ in this situation.

thegadfly's picture thegadfly | 12 years 6 months # | VT = The Tampa Rays of College Football

I wonder how Boise was able to keep Peterson around so long. I knew he'd go to a pac12 team, but I thought it was going to happen about 4 years ago...

Hokiebird's picture Hokiebird | 12 years 6 months # | While the 2013 season is still pretty close in the rear view mirror....

At the time, bro, at the time. Trey was an unknown still and the Bama D was still pretty decent and all american players on them. But they kept saying how good their D was supposed to be and that run happened so it gaves a good "short term" outlook on how our offense might look. Too bad we couldn't be consistent.

Leonard's picture Leonard | 12 years 6 months # | VT = The Tampa Rays of College Football

I remember. That goes down as one of the luckiest plays I've ever seen. That down was 3rd and Texas, and Michigan had done NOTHING to that point. If the defense had gotten off the field on that play, a big nail would have been driven into the coffin. Robinson should've been sacked, but he got off that desperation heave. Whitley collided with Antone. Kyle Fuller was almost sacking Robinson at the time.

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